Civilian Inmate Labor Program and Prison Camps on Army Installations
Posted November 11th, 2008 by JKap
Heard about this on the Alex Jones show. What would be your comments?
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If there weren't so many stupid and evil laws on the books
I might be amenable to discussing select uses of prison inmates on public property, but for now, this is 100% wrong. The prisons are full of non-violent offenders, many of them from harmless things like misdemeanor weed possession, and until such things change, I completely disapprove.
I'm ok with murderers, rapists, arsonists and other actual criminals being used to pick up trash on public highways and such, but the reality is, more and more laws are created all the time, not less, and for increasingly bizarre and liberty-infringing intents
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Let 'em try to take me to a prison camp.
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I noticed that we haven't heard from any hardcore trolls on this
Isn't one of our troll-spammers gonna take this one by the horns and tell me that I'm just a worry-wort on the proposed Civilian Inmate Labor Program to be "overseen" by the Army and Prison Camps on Army Installations, and so forth, and so on...
You know—no sense in "conspiracy theories" and so forth. No takers?
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I gotcha, JKap...
In absentia, I'll give it a shot...
"You're all just crazy conspiracy theorists. Just like the 911 truthers, who think everything's a conspiracy. Don't you realize that the simplest answer is usually the truest? I mean, they'll never enact something like this. And even if they did, it's just for terrorists. And I'm not a criminal, or a terrorist.
Labor camps are good for prisoners. Are you for prisoners getting spa treatments? You just want the terrorists to win."
(...How did I do?)
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I stand thoroughly "debunked"...
I guess I was just imagining the proposed Civilian Inmate Labor Program and Civilian Prison Camps on Army installations. But if they did exist, it would be a good thing.
See, nothing to worry about. Thanks for straightening that our for me Nate.
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Reminds me of the movie
"The Shanksaw Redemption" The corrupt Warden got rich off kickbacks and bribes using his inmates to do public works jobs. Also "Schindler's List". Nazi commandants made money brokering inmates to military industrialists.
As our free market is replaced by socialism and fascism, people will be treated as assets instead of individuals, and marked with bar codes. Like assets, they will be depreciate in value as they age, suffer illness, etc. We know if businesses liquidates obsolete or broken stock, so will our government find a way not to justify maintaining unproductive people. So yeah, at first the freeloaders get a free ride from the state, but eventually the government will require payment in service for all the freebies--or else. It's a devils pact, free room and board, for your body and soul.
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He was one of 350 U.S. soldiers held at Berga an der Elster, a satellite camp of the Nazis' notorious Buchenwald concentration camp. The soldiers, working 12-hour days, were used by the German army to dig tunnels and hide equipment in the final weeks of the war. Less than half of the soldiers survived their captivity and a subsequent death march, he says.
Acevedo's story is one that was never supposed to be told. "We had to sign an affidavit ... [saying] we never went through what we went through. We weren't supposed to say a word," he says.
"My stomach turned to acid, and the government didn't care. They didn't give a hullabaloo."
For decades, Acevedo followed the rules and kept his mouth shut. His four children didn't know the extent of his war experience. He says he felt stymied because of the document he signed. "You never gave it a thought because of that paper."
They were told they were being sent to "a beautiful camp" with a theater and live shows.
"It turned out to be the opposite," he says. "They put us on a train, and we traveled six days and six nights. It was a boxcar that would fit heads of cattle. They had us 80 to a boxcar. You couldn't squat. And there was little tiny windows that you could barely see through."
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So the US government would
So the US government would not allow them to tell their stories?
That makes little sense....
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NAFTA highway
This is what all this ruckess is about. Access to our natural resources.
Can't help but
think of China, North Korea and Russia. Ugh!
Theres a road in northern
Theres a road in northern Russia that was built from prisoners... literally, when they died from the working conditions they were put under the road.
Wouldn't that hurt the stability
Of said Road.. They probably buried them beside the road as they went..
I get the point.
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I've often wondered why we can't use
prison inmates to do the jobs the illegals do - pick fruit & vegetables, for example. Let them get out and work, and we wouldn't need the illegals coming here to do jobs that Americans won't do, or so they say.
Well it all sounds fine and dandy but...
It soon becomes a dirty dirty business. Slave labour.
Say the state wants to build a new road, lets say its a very big project and it has an unrealistic deadline. Now you have this gung-ho sherrif who doesn't have enough inmates to get the job done on time. What does he do?
He get's more inmates. J walkers, litter bugs, a kid who tried marijuana for the first time, etc....
What I am saying is that it is you and I who will be the inmates. There would be record numbers of people in jails to supply the labour demand. Slavery.
This isn't really that far fetched either, I believe this is where the NWO globalist CK-Suckers are taking us.
North Carolina
once used inmates for roadwork...maintaining and paving...(1940's - 50's)during that time NC was known as one of the states with the best road network and the best maintained roads. It was eventually turned over to "private" companies and the inmates got a gym. Hmmm....
Yep
My Grandfather was a State of Connecticut road foreman around the same time. They also used inmates to do road work and build bridges. He said to me that they were some of the best craftsman he had ever seen.
A problem with labor programs is...
who controls the labor?
When it comes down to it, wealth is really measured in how much human capital you can purchase. If you are using prisoners for labor then you are really subsidizing the industry that is affects.
These days a lot of prisons are actually private meaning that cost savings are just profits in the hands of these companies that can just turn around and lobby governments to make more laws and thus continue the supply of prisoners to feed their supply for cheap labor.
The tax payers ultimately suffer and so does the intrinsic value of "human capital." Imagine so many people being forced to accept whatever terms of their incarceration at the taxpayers expense all the while throwing this money away to the benefit of conglomerates.
A prison system serves one of two purposes (not both) either (1) reform prisoners or (2) punish prisoners. The idea of reforming prisoners has long since been pushed aside as it is the more expensive to invest in a man then to simply lock him up.
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Who knew?
After having spent the time to read this "Civilian Inmate Labor Program" (Army Regulation 210-35)—I have to confess that I wasn't aware that the mission of the National Defense of the United States (which I thought was the mission of the U.S. Armed Forces as outlined in the Constitution) included arrangements for the Army to "oversee" civilian inmate labor programs and civilian prison camps on Army installations. But that is precisely what this program outlines.
So it is little wonder that the program details what seems to be a preoccupation with public relations and "negative media coverage" of said program. I guess that they expect some level of resistance from the chattel regarding civilian inmate labor programs "overseen" by the Army and civilian prison camps on Army installations.
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"An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it. Truth stands, even if there be no public support. It is self sustained." -Mahatma Gandhi
Related: 18 USC Sec. 4125.
Related: 18 USC Sec. 4125. Public works; prison camps
http://law.onecle.com/usc...
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"An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it. Truth stands, even if there be no public support. It is self sustained." -Mahatma Gandhi
Related: Executive Order
Related: Executive Order 11755--Relating to prison labor
http://www.archives.gov/f...
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"An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it. Truth stands, even if there be no public support. It is self sustained." -Mahatma Gandhi
That Executive Order Says
"The development of the occupational and educational skills of prison inmates is essential to their rehabilitation and to their ability to make an effective return to free society."
We would no longer - no - we no longer have a free society.
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