Barack Obama has until December 1st to show his birth certificate
Submitted by Nathan.Mahan on Sun, 11/09/2008 - 19:04
SCOTUS Tells Obama To Produce Birth Certificate
Lawyer Philip Berg’s lawsuit questioning Barack Obama’s “natural born” status has entered a do-or-die phase after the Supreme Court has ordered the president-elect to produce his birth certificate by December 1st.
Berg, who appealed his case of America’s highest court, was told by Justice David Souter’s Clerk that his petition for an injunction to stay the November 4th election was denied. The Clerk also required the defendants (Obama, the DNC, and FEC) to respond to the Writ of Certiorari by December 1. At that time, Obama must present an authentic birth certificate to the Court, which has been sealed by Hawaii governor Linda Lingle. Berg will get to respond afterwards.
Failure to do that will surely inspire the skepticism of the Justices in Obama, who are not used to being defied. The Court will have to decide what to do about a president-elect who refuses to prove his natural-born citizenship.
“I can see a unanimous Court (en banc) decertifying the election if Obama refuses to produce his birth certificate,” says attorney and writer Raymond S. Kraft. “They cannot do otherwise without abandoning all credibility as guardians of the Constitution. Even the most liberal justices, however loathe they may to do this, still consider themselves guardians of the Constitution. The Court is very jealous of its power - even over presidents, even over presidents-elect.”
Obama’s own campaign website has stated the president-elect was a Kenyan citizen until 1982. Audio of Obama’s Kenyan grandmother saying he was born in Kenya has recently surfaced.
On December 13, the Electoral College meets to casts its votes. If it has been determined that Mr. Obama is an illegal alien and therefore ineligible to become President of the United States, the Electors will be duty-bound to honor the Constitution.
http://therightperspective.com/wordpress/?p=311
UPDATE1: Correction - Obama must respond to the Writ of Certiorari by December 1st, not show a birth certificate. I am sorry if the headline was misleading.
Shows how inefficient Government is...
It would take me less than an hour to make a convincing fraud
Dec 1 - Bah!!
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He would never be considered an "illegal alien".
His mother was American. If he was born overseas, it is a simple procedure for her to fill out a form which would grant him automatic citizenship and allow her to travel back to the US with him. If true, this would make him ineligible to be president but NOT an illegal alien.
the illegal alien part
is because of his citizenship in Indonesia. Indonesia allows you to have only one country of citizenship. If he became an Indonesian citizen he had to forfeit his American one. If he never went through immigration to get it back, he would be an illegal alien. His school records show he was an Indonesian citizen. This would all have to be confirmed through immigration. He would not be eligible to hold his Senate seat either and would probably need to be deported.
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Yes, he would be ineligible, but we can remedy that.
The Constitution is vary clear. You must be born within the borders of this country. If he can not or does not produce a birth certificate showing that he was born within the borders of the united States of America, he would be ineligible to become the 44th President of the united States of America, but he most likely will become the 44th president of the United States of America.
This would be the prime time to go for a Constitutional convention to change the eligibility of the 44th president, and while we are here lets change the definition of the 2nd Amendment.
Once a convention is convened, everything in the Constitution is open to CHANGE, and change is what they want and are going for.
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This is an important topic,
If Obama is not a U.S. citizen, then he should not be allowed to be President, but I am dismayed by the number of racist comments on this subject. Haven't you people learned what Ron Paul has been saying.
WE HAVE GOT TO STOP THINKING OF PEOPLE AS GROUPS, WE HAVE TO START THINKING IN TERMS OF INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY!
"The Constitution was written not to regulate you in any way, the purpose of the Constitution is to restrain the government." Ron Paul.
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I think of Obama as a Marxist.
I am color blind. He's a Marxist. His supporters are dupes of all colors.
Time will tell if he is even worse than Bush. I have my doubts, because I believe he will attack gun rights. And if he does so, he will be outboxed by the NRA and 100 million angry gun owners---and he'll be thrown out of office quickly in 2012.
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I accept your opinion,
because it is not racist, it is truth as you see it.
I agree with you, and I also hold out hope that he will overcome.
"The Constitution was written not to regulate you in any way, the purpose of the Constitution is to restrain the government." Ron Paul.
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My concern about Obama
does not specifically relate to his color, but his nationality. If he is not a U.S. Natural born citizen, then he is potentially an illegal alien and not qualified to be the leader of our country. The powers that be can hold this over his head and make him do their bidding. If true, there is potential for the puppetmasters to completely control every decision he makes and also opens up any decisions he makes should he be proven to not be a natural born citizen down the line, open to challenge.
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Wrong.
It would be next to impossible for him to be an illegal alien with an American mother! He would not have been allowed in the country. Did he swim to Hawaii from Indonesia and crawl up on the beach to freedom?
He disgusts me but, please people, don't be so damn ignorant.
If I am wrong...and I am not saying he
definitely is not a natural born citizen nor currently an illegal alien because he was never naturalized ....then there are many other who are wrong, too, including very well-trained attorneys. It is impolite to call someone damn ignorant. Especially when we are having discussion among supposed "friends."
Have you read anything about the case against him? Or do you just assume the DNC vetted him properly and there could not possibly be any reason to doubt his status? Now many tens of millions of llegal aliens does this country have now? How did they get here? All Obama needs to do is provide a vault copy of his birth certificate showing he was truly born in Hawaii. Read more, it can be enlightening. Anybody remember Alberto Gonzalez?
I refer you to http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd414
On that page you will find reference to a lawsuit brought by Dr. T.B. Bradley, Psy. D. Forensic Psychologist who works for the Criminal Justice System and the Courts, accusing
Obama's Mother of Fraud on Obama Birth Docs.
EXCERPT >> 'Obama's mother defrauded the United States not once, but twice due to her out of US births of her children that she desperately sought to protect by late registration births with false and fraudulent information declaring that both children were born on US soil'.
In which he also states in part: "I1.Unless he has applied for naturalization of US Citizenship after the age of 18 and pledged an oath of allegiance to the US, Obama is, in fact, an illegal alien living in the United States."
You all have fun now.
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I know quite a bit about immigration law.
Thanks for the reply.
Well, so happy to hear you are not damn ignorant
guess you're just now aware of what is happening in this particular case.
IT'S DOABLE
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I think you will be disappointed in the outcome.
I know more about this case than you are assuming.
How do you presume that I will be disappointed?
I have already assumed that it will be thrown out of our oh so just legal system. (sarc) Maybe you know more about this case...so tell us, then, did Obama takes the steps to be naturalized after he was adopted by an Indonesian citizen? He went to Indonesian schools and he would not be allowed to do so at that time as an American citizen and dual citizenship was not recognized until 2006. So, why do you know so much about this case. We are always interested in the "insider" story. What did you think of the present lawsuits...are they completely without validity? Perhaps you could take a couple of your New York minutes and do a knowledgeable review of the facts of each of the cases that have been filed against Obama and his natural born/citizenship status? While I don't think any of these suits will go anywhere....for the sake of our country being run by a legally eligible person with only good intentions, I can only hope.
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You seem to have it all worked out.
Have a nice night.
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Your update is very important
The USSC hears only the cases that it decides to hear. I think they hear about 75 cases a year out of several thousand applications (a.k.a. writs of certiorari). If I read this correctly, the court has not granted cert. yet. There is a good chance it will decide not to hear the case, and thereby avoid dealing with this mess. It wouldn't be the first time that it has declined cert. for political reasons. Of course the ruling in this case would not require a lot of analysis. Either Obomba was born in Hawaii or he wasn't. It will be interesting to see what the court does.
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I would be surprised if it leads anywhere....
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What if Nobama says no? Or the courts toss it out again? What then?
And has anyone with a legal mind here, thought about charging Paulson, all who voted yes for the bailout,. and all those getting money from the bailout, under the RICO laws?
Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act
The Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (commonly referred to as RICO Act or RICO) is a United States federal law that provides for extended penalties for criminal acts performed as part of an ongoing criminal organization. It also provides a civil cause of action for those injured by violations of the act. RICO was enacted by section 901(a) of the Organized Crime Control Act of 1970 (Pub.L. 91-452, 84 Stat. 922, enacted October 15, 1970). RICO is codified as Chapter 96 of Title 18 of the United States Code, 18 U.S.C. § 1961–1968. It was intended to make it easier to prosecute organized crime figures, but has been applied in several other cases as well.
Im not to smart on these matters but..it seems to fit.
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Freedom is another way to God...A corrupt government is a straight way to hell.
Devvy Kidd's updates on the "bailout" and
court cases regarding Obama's Constitutional qualifications for President are posted at www.newswithviews.com, today.
It won't be a problem
The professional document duplicators will have no trouble in producing an "authentic" birth cirtificate. Why, they'll even smear a little pinnapple juice on one corner to "prove" that it is from Hawaii. The capabilities of these people goes way beyond the normal imagination. Just think 9-11.
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How many felonies has Obama committed?
Did Obama used a forged birth certificate to:
o Register with Selective Service?
o Obtain a driver's license?
o Obtain a marriage license?
o Obtain a passport?
o Run for Congress?
o Run for the presidency?
If so, let's see, aren't we to about 60 FELONIES?
ugh, who even cares about
ugh, who even cares about this stuff. At least Obama is black, so he can promote some racial healing. We could do worse. Obama can't commit any more treason than an American born and raised CFR slimebag, 100%.
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How?
Can a racist promote racial healing?
you're fucked up.
and that's just gonna have to be that.
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Well, I don't believe in Obama's political/financial views,
But, the very fact that a black man got elected as President, means a lot to the black community. On a human level, it is huge. It could very well lesson racial tensions. Obama has inspired black people and many white people as well. He is an intelligent, charismatic speaker. I would compare his oratory skills to that of J.F.K.
Obama has inspired many people to the idea of taking more personal responsibility for themselves, that in itself is a step in the right direction.
"The Constitution was written not to regulate you in any way, the purpose of the Constitution is to restrain the government." Ron Paul.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdUoq0ihC2U
For sake of political correctness.
Obama isn't black. 50% white 43% Arab and 7% Kenyan . You must be at least 12.5% something before you can be considered a race.
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Well,
I am not blind, and he looks black to me. His being elected, although it will not cure what ails the u.s., It is a monumental achievment for America and the black community.
Everybody on the Dailypaul assumes that everyone else on the DailyPaul is white.
Make no assumptions.
True patriots can be of any color.
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The first to defy,
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It riot or revolution,
or mob or crowd as you may,
such deaths have been seeds of nations,
such lives shall be honored for ay".
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Ron Paul has taught us that we have to stop thinking in terms of groups, and we have to start thinking in terms of individuals, and individual liberty.
Crispus Attucks was the first person to die in the Revolutionary war.
He died for America.
He died for us.
He was black.
This is the truth, this is important, this is part of the reason why black Americans are so keenly fond of Barack Obama.
No, I don't agree with Obama's policies.
Yes, I do believe that Obama is part of the problem with America, he is a member of the C.F.R.
But, we as a group have to be more open-minded when it comes to the feelings of fellow patriots.
"The Constitution was written not to regulate you in any way, the purpose of the Constitution is to restrain the government." Ron Paul.
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"Obama has inspired many people to the idea of taking more...
personal responsibility for themselves..."
you mean like this lady?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI
Somewhere in hell, John Maynard Keynes is laughing maniacally and dancing a jig.
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I mean like these kids.
They are dedicated and uplifted by Obama's message.
This video was put out to denegrate these kid's committment,
but if you listen to their chants, they say that they will take more personal responsibility, because of Obama.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSvBCBnulLs
Twisting the truth, is sometimes worse than an outright lie.
This is a ruthless world, and if you look up the meaning of the word "ruth", you will find that this world is sadly in desparate need of more ruth.
Obama has inspired many people to become better people.
Obama will not correct what ails this country. Obama is indeed a member of the C.F.R.
Obama is owned by the corporate elite..
But Obama, has the potential to be a truly great president, if he only had the courage to buck the system. He has the attention of the masses.
Time will tell, but truly I don't hold out much hope.
"The Constitution was written not to regulate you in any way, the purpose of the Constitution is to restrain the government." Ron Paul.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdUoq0ihC2U
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Do Not let racism,
Rule you.
"The Constitution was written not to regulate you in any way, the purpose of the Constitution is to restrain the government." Ron Paul.
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I remember early on in the
I remember early on in the race some black people were complaining Obama wasn't black enough(since he is half white), like Stanley Crouch(can't help wonder how many other black Americans felt like Crouch does), and then Steve Kroft asked something to the effect of Obama why does he consider himself black when he is half white and spent most of his time in a white environment?
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=14&...
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/nader-obama-not-bl...
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/02/11/60minutes/main2458...
You can't be serious? Why are you on this forum?
Race has nothing to do with it.
He is a liar and deceiver and disgrace to any legitimate political office - what the heck are you doing on dp?
Here's one of his first lies as Pres-elect
http://www.israeltoday.co.il/default.aspx?tabid=178&nid=17508
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Dear missdavenport,
I would gladly give my life for anyone on this forum,
but if you believe that black people don't think Obama as President is a big deal, then you have your head in the sand.
Do not let racism rule you.
Speak the truth, and the truth shall light the way.
"The Constitution was written not to regulate you in any way, the purpose of the Constitution is to restrain the government." Ron Paul.
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I agree that enslaving
I agree that enslaving people even more should be done with great rhetoric.
To be blunt about it would be disastrous,nobody would comply,but to do it artfully with a mesmerizing tone,now that's skill.People will happily sign up for anything put forth.
Like trying to sell a lemon of a car,or a house that's overpriced.The salesman has to be convincing,win the trust of the person/people.
Where do we sign our life away!!!
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Actually, Obama may create a
Actually, Obama may create a huge upsurge in racism. As Obama continues to aid in destroying this country, and I'm not blaming it all on him of course, many will say, "This is what happens when you have someone black running the country!"
A silly notion, but it's not hard to imagine that taking place. Obama is far more likely to increase racial tensions than to dilute them.
Sure, right now people may feel good about Obama being the first 'black' President, but what happens when things really start going downhill under his Presidency?
That racial tensions will improve under Obama is far from a given. A very premature assumption.
Note: It matters not to me which race he is or isn't.
Obama is not black
he is half white.
He is not the first "African American" president, he is the first Bi-Racial president.
Get over it already.
Yeah, who cares about the President obeying the Constitution?
I'm with ya...who the F cares if the President elect doesn't adhere to the Constitution, right? It's only a g__ damned piece of paper, right?
/end sarcasm
So, following the U.S. Consititution, which any elected official
must take an oath to uphold, is unimportant?
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Huh?
Who are you?
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You're kidding, right?
Not at all. People voting
Not at all. People voting for Obama because he is half black were voting on the only conceivable - albeit purely utilitarian and not valuable in and of itself - significant difference between the two candidates.
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You can't be serious.
You must have fallen down at the National Aquarium and bumped your head. Or you must have been drinking too hard a the Power plant last night.... There is no difference between Obomba and McSame. You didn't get a choice for president. You were given the illusion of choice, but don't be fooled.
I'd just like you to attempt to explain any merit of Obomba. It can not be done with out turning to superficial reasons.
I'm from MD too, and I what I saw on election day would make MLK roll in his grave. He would have never voted for Obama because Obama has no content to his character.
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Merit: Black youths now have
Merit: Black youths now have visible a role model in high places that is not a Rapper/Athlete/Criminal(well, maybe not this one). I guess this is another area where McCain and Obama are "the same" eh?
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Has anyone noticed
Obama's not picking any minorities or women for his cabinet?