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My Jewish Friend Sarah is Anti-Zionism

My Jewish Friend Sarah is Anti-Zionism.

She is now on the road to Colorado and wants to meet
with Brother Nathanael Kapner who has a website I deleted
from this thread because I'm afraid y'all will scream at me
and say the website is in poor taste.

She hasn't even contacted him and said she will find him
somewhere out on the street.

I think she's becoming unstable. But, my friends think I'm
unstable because of my views on what is going on worldwide.
So maybe she isn't unstable. I wanted to take a vacation
from work and go with her but she would not allow it.

Does anyone know anything about Brother
Nathanael Kapner?

Do you know Brother Nathanael Kapner's website
I'm talking about?

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hey

i got nothing against sarah. the thing i take issue with is the sheer ignorance of the comments below me. saying we worship satan and other bullshit...

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HAHAHAAAA

That's good.. Seems like Zionists are in support of Giuliani as well..

Yeah their is all kinds of people on that site..LOL I counted 4 and they were all months ago and merely one or two comments on a video.

Good one Shill.

Oh I have a IP blocker and whatever script you're trying to pin on my computer isn't working.. I advise anyone who goes to this posted site that they clean their internet cache and temporary internet files.

wait what?

you lost me at IP blocker and scripts...
and for the record im totally against giulliani and all other neocons.
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Most are....

Almost all of my Jewish friends are anti-Zionist. In fact, many of my Jewish friends are against any form of a Jewish state as it goes against their religion.

Here is the site of one of the organizations.

The key

The key is to separate Judaism as a religion from Jewishness as an ethnicity. Many synagogue attending Jews have no use for religion, and are actually atheists. I'd wager that a pretty small number of ethnic Jews are actually interested at all in the religion of Judaism.

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Great History on Isreal

This documentary blew me away with it's knowledge. I always knew that Rothschild, Rockefeller and Karl Marx all came from Prussia originally and their God is money.
This documentary is long but good.
The Other Isreal by Ted Pike-

http://www.mostholyfamily...

This Rabbi

has been beaten and mobbed by Zionist Jews several times but he never stops.

http://www.youtube.com/wa...

Every builder does their part.

True Zionist's do not worship the God of Abraham, they worship a star god.
The so called star of David symbolized by two triangles, with 6 points, 6 inner sides and 6 small triangles, represents the god that they worship. It is the mark used by the Nazi's and perhaps for reason. True Zionist's claim it as a symbol of honor, a symbol to fight for and die for, where as non-zionists view it as a symbol of shame and something they would not wear or use, as they worship God.
As many people are unaware of the symbology of zionism they ignorantly use the symbols and support the actions associated with the movement. The leadership of the Zionist movement is perhaps at the top of the New World Order, the same New World Order that Hitler spoke of and worked to build and the same New World Order that we face today.
I believe the only way to defeat Zionism is to seek out the Kingdom of God within us and not chase after false gods via symbols which come from the material world.
grant

6 points, 6 inner sides and 6 small triangles??

Looks like 666 to me...

This hexagram is NOT the Star of David. David never used this symbol. It is actually one of the Seals of Solomon - used in Kabbalah for conjuring and controlling demons. Rothschild adopted this symbol for Judaism (Talmudism) in the 1800's.

All research: The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, Kabbalah, Khazars, and Talmud.

ArmorOfChrist777

We don't have any true facts The Protocols of the Learned
Elders of Zion is actually real, do we?.

I want to hear from Jewish folks on what y'all think about the
The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion.

I do think Zionism is causing hatred on the Jewish people.

Jewish folks who aren't Zionists sure better tell everyone
they come in contact with so people won't lump them in the
same evil package.

Thank you all for reassuring me Sarah is o.k.

I do believe Brother Nathanael Kapner should posts articles
stating "Zionist Jew" instead of saying Jews This is misleading
and it looks like he thinks all Jews are evil and he is self-hating..

from what i have heard

the protocols turned out to be correspondence between a general under Napoleon and someone else. yes, napoleon wanted to take over the world. so in that sense they are real. what is false is to pin them on jews, that part is a fabrication.
i have never heard of any jew that believes in what those documents say or that he thinks they were written by jews...
so i would conclude the "elders of zion" are a complete falsety.

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Your Jewish friend Sarah sounds like my kind of gal

That guy she is looking for is a convert from Orthodox Judaism to Orthodox Christianity (I believe) and is not ashamed to state the reality of the destructiveness of the Zionist mentality.

I hope Sarah finds him and has a chance to learn from him. It sounds like she is soul searching. Good for her!

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I read Brother Kapner's website regularly.

He seems to be spot on about everything that's going on in the world. I would love to meet him. I hope your friend does find him.

I could be wrong

but I thought I read something about it going against God's law and/or the Torah for a Jewish state to be established before the coming of the Messiah?

Also, aren't there two groups of Jews...Ashkenazic and Sephardic?

Anyone?

85% of Jews were against Zionism...

until Hitler got through with them. The Zionists collaborated with Hitler to kill the anti-Zionist Jews. Now, only about 15% of world Jewry opposes Zionism.

Here it goes...

I can't help but notice that so many Jews are at the scene of the crime. Why have the Feds chairmen ...Obama's Secretary of the Treasury choices and etc, etc etc. been Jews?? I mean they are a very small % of the American population but they hold so many power positions. It is kind of questionable. Don't burn me at the stake for asking questions. This is America after all.

Exactly, why are 2% so controlling and power hungry?


Is it just a part of their religious belief as the author states in this video:

Douglas Rushkoff, Jewish Author, on Judaism

Or are Jewish people intentionally trying to take control over the world because they believe they are the "chosen" people?

Is it just the Christian Bible that says people should not kill, lie, cheat, and steal?

I guess I'm at a disadvantage to understanding this apparent world-wide religious feud, since I'm not religious...

...or maybe not.

It appears religious beliefs can be the biggest most lethal divider of all; when people are willing to believe in something they have no proof exists, they will believe anything.


Ron Paul's Convention Speech

Khazars have manipulated the real Jews

By hijacking the identity of God's chosen people. They exploit it and use it shelter themselves from criticism.

Or...

Could it be when they allow the rest of the world to it's own devices, everyone tries to kill them off.

What about them could be so remarkable that

"everyone tries to kill them off"?

I've wodered that myself.

Not all Jewish people are bad. I have friends that are Jewish.. It's Zionism that's the problem

Right

REAL Jews despise Zionism.

Are you a congressman from Georgia?

No, but you're

A Zionist shill. You've been judged. I'll pray for you.

Here is my problem with this subject ...

I could care less about Zionism. It is of no interest to me. If a Jew or anybody else believes in the Jewish state then by all means knock your socks off.

If you think our constitutional republic should endorse your views and create policy that is pro-zionist, again I have no problem with it, knock your socks off.

If my elected officials acted in such a manner, I have a serious problem with that. My anger would be with my elected officials, not with an individual that believes strongly in something and is willing to do just about anything to enhance his/her agenda.

For all you anti-zionists out there, meditate on that one for a bit. Seek what ignites your anger. I think you will find your answer in meditation as to whether you are a bigot or not.

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P.S. WAHOR!!

"There can be only one permanent revolution - a moral one: The regeneration of the inner man."
—Tolstoy

I am here to be judged.

Judge for yourself.

WAHOR:

Do you think there is a discernible, and important, difference to be had... understanding the difference between a faith-seeking jew hoodwinked by self-serving megalomaniacs, vs. a megalomaniac cleverly posing as a faithful Jew?

Same might go for Crusading Christians vs. students of Jesus?
As well as Islam-O-Fascist vs. students of Muhammad?

How about the actions of timeless clever bastards hijacking the malleable minds "Truth" and "Change" seekers?

I agree.

There are wolves feeding on sheep in every Religion. They hoodwink and then claim to provide enlightenment via their ways, as they make claim to have the truth.
This is a lie, since every man is capable of enlightenment if only they seek within themselves.
This corresponds to what is written about Christ as he was to have said, "The Kingdom of God is within you".
No need for fancy masters to teach you with twisting crafts, secrecy and promises of enlightenment. No need for men to mediate between you and God.
This corresponds to what is written about Christ as his sacrifice was to have torn the curtain between men and God.
Everyone is born enlightened, able to communicate with God, however this ability is crushed by the so called religious who want to exploit the spirit of individuals for their own gain.
This corresponds to what is written about Christ as he was to have said that only those with the spirit of a child would enter into heaven.
grant

Are you assuming I am a jew with that statement?

Also, do you think that you have more intelligence than these "hoodwinked" jews?

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Shill.

Divisive shill. Figured you'd be right back on this subject as soon as your ban was lifted.

That's fine, You are making people aware that their is a Problem with Zionism because of your defense of it.

We know your Role. You've been judged.

You are here to be a shill.

It's cool tho, We know what side of the fence you're on.

Egocentric Zionist Supporter. I bet the Israeli puppet masters you serve are proud of you.

Not sure if you read my post accurately ...

I am not a zionist.

Having said that ...

we are all egocentric if we act in an ethical manner, so I will give you that.

WAHOR!!
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Zionist Sympathizer.

Shill.

No ...

I am not a zionist sypathizer either.

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Bingo

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Like I have always said.

I am anti Zionism. Not Anti-semantic.. their is a difference.

Thank you for posting this. I don't know this website but most here wouldn't scream poor taste.. unless of course they were trying to be divisive but then again the ones who do that are usually shills.

To give you an idea of how open I am, I've taken much flack for having dated a girl that was mixed once. Also my best friend is black and I'm from a podunk redneck part of KY. I've put up with racism most of my life and I'm white..

I can't stand the Ignorance and fear I come in contact with daily.

Once you learn astronomy you realize how insignificant and small it is of people that react to skin color and racism in the grand scheme of things.

oruval...

i am from the southern entrance of the land between the lakes and glad to hear you are a kentuckian...how about that local militia that surrounds lbl and will defend it? it might not be too organized but i'll be damned if i go against it!

O Captain, My Captain, rise up and hear the bells!

Thanks.

Keep that info to yourself.. =]

Hello again oruval

Fair enough. I can take you at your word and I apologize for what I implied in the CB thread. I finished Pat Buchannan's "An Unnnecessary War" just before Minneapolis. Predictably many labeled him a Nazi. I remember listening to the smears in my hotel room there.

Still, I have run into anti-semitism and racism over the past 13 months I've been involved in the freedom movement. All of it was in New Hamshire sadly.

The Arab-Israeli conflict to me should be just that. A conflict between Arabs and Israelis. Still I would recomend to you Dershowitz's "The case for Israel". I found it thoughtful and persuasive. Their "case" is stronger than you might think.

Case or no case.

No where in the Constitution dose it state that we have entangling alliances with any nation. Israel fits into that category of People whom we shouldn't be supporting with our military might.. Nor should Dual Israeli Zionists control so much of the Government.

You're absolutely correct.

You're absolutely correct.

The Arab-Israeli issue is their issue and shouldn't affect Americans in any way.

I've actually visited Israel many times and have a lot of family there and I can tell you that it's an amazing country. The people are great, the food is great, and the geography is beautiful.

I wish that Israel would become a free country for all people instead of being considered a Jewish country.

The way I see Israel's conflict, is the way I understand the American-Indian conflict.

Our history is unfortunately full Indian murder and land takeover.

Let's just hope that the Arabs will accept the Jews and that the Jews accept the Arabs after the dust settles and America stops funding either of them.

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I was called a "nazi" by my

I was called a "nazi" by my jewish neighbor the other day. My wife has been friends with her for over a year. She is a liberal, and occasionally we have friendly debates about politics. This particular night she came over to talk about the movie "W" she just saw.
She finished talking about it and said "Man is he corrupt"
I said, "they are all corrupt"
she came back with "Not Bush Senior and Bill Clinton, they're building houses in new orleans."
"that doesnt mean anything" I said.
"You have to give them credit for that" she replied.
"Not really" I told her.
"Well, they're doing good things, that's all that counts" She claimed.
Then I said "Even Hitler did good things."
SHE STOOD UP! "What? She exclaimed"
"Yeah", I said, "He basically invented the highway system, pushed for an economical car for the germans (VW) that would be cheap and fuel efficient, He brought Germany out of a terrible depression.."
She stopped me and said "Im leaving, you do not talk about hitler to a jew"
I said. "No, no...I was saying even..."
She interrupted..." Im leaving, you're ignorant"

Ironically, I used hitler as an example of the worst person, doing good things....i should add, that prior to that I had said "What if Cheney has a commercial on where his foundation is building houses, will that mean he is good?...she said "He will never do that"...So I took it to the next level with Hitler. I apologized immediately, I said "I was not trying to offend you", "How is that offensive". "You must have heard me wrong"...blah blah

Well, we havent heard from her since. Her daughter was at my house playing with my kids for the past year, now shes not allowed to come over. My wife wasnt even in the room, and she wont talk to her. She sent an email that said "Your husband is a nazi, and he is spreading lies about hitler." She continued. "This is exactly what led to Kristal naught."

I thought it was insane, especially since she knows how much I cant stand the Rothschilds, and the rockefellers, and Prescott bush, because they were nazi sympathysers.

I am a freedom loving Ron Paul supporter, I have NEVER said anything antisemitic in my life.

I just thought I would share this story.

Oh yeah...she has been in arguments with 9 neighbors over the past 3 years, AND she doesnt talk to her own sister who lives 9 miles away in Walnut Creek, AND her kids arent allowed to see or talk to their cousins.

thats all

sounds to me like two things...

first off, ok maybe she is a little stressed out or to easy to "fly off the handle"...may have some issues with herself, i don't know...but, lets assume innocence...she may be coming to a self understanding of current world issues and she may be a little mixed up right now because everything she ever believed in is proving to be a lie...we know how that affects us...

right now is critical...reach out to her, swallow your pride, explain exactly what you meant...be gentle! take baby steps...

O Captain, My Captain, rise up and hear the bells!

I remember my cousin first

talking to me about political issues and he said something similar
about Hitler. Without knowledge on the subject, I thought he was
Nazi.

I'll share too. I was loaning out Money Masters with my co-workers
at school. I gave it to Julie to watch. She gave it back and said
I do not believe in your Jesus so the part about the moneychangers
in the temple is a lie and so is this documentary.

I did not know she was Jewish.

That's sad... Some people

That's sad... Some people lose all sense of reason and logic and let their emotions take over.

You made very good points and unfortunately she wasn't able to understand your logical points.

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im sorry to hear that juliusbragg. that is one very ignorant

im sorry to hear that juliusbragg. that is one very ignorant neighbor
i was going to say something else but refrained so that i dont get be accused of sexism
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Action is what defines men

I'm Jewish and I'm against

I'm Jewish and I'm against the policies of both our government and Israel's government.

Most Americans are good people just like most Israelis are good people. It's the politicians that exploit the masses and ruin things for us all.

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0.000001%

Of the world population bullies all the rest of us. What's wrong with this picture?

"There can be only one permanent revolution - a moral one: The regeneration of the inner man."
—Tolstoy

With that statement I will assume you are a bigot ...

but I must admit, my judgements can be changed.

Of course there must be evidence to pursuade me.

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