Zionism: The Real Enemy of the Jews | Taking a stance against Zionism before the world falls apart
"In his latest book, Zionism: The Real Enemy of the Jews, A Book for Peace, Hart expands on how such collusion is leading to a clash between civilizations and how it could be prevented. He is a firm believer in the notion that what peacemaking needs above all else is some truth, “about many things but, especially, the difference between Zionist mythology and real history, and, the difference between Judaism and Zionism and thus why it is perfectly possible to be passionately anti-Zionist without being in any way, shape or form anti-Semitic.”
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Here is the biblical answer.
Rev 12:1* ¶ And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
2* And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
3* And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
4* And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
5* And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
Who is the women? Israel.
Joe' dream. He would be #12 star.
Gen 37:9* And he dreamed yet another dream, and told it his brethren, and said, Behold, I have dreamed a dream more; and, behold, the sun and the moon and the eleven stars made obeisance to me.
10* And he told it to his father, and to his brethren: and his father rebuked him, and said unto him, What is this dream that thou hast dreamed? Shall I and thy mother and thy brethren indeed come to bow down ourselves to thee to the earth?
Rev 12:13* And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
The devil thinks he can stop Gods divine plan. !st by killing off all the Jews before Christ came. in egypt by lilling all the males and also in the book of ruth.
God made promises to the Jewish people . . . God never breaks his promises. the rejection of Jesus by the jewish leaders caused them to be put on the shelf for a time. God promised to bring them back into the land one day to fufill those promises one day.
This is old testement
Zech 13:1* ¶ In that day there shall be a fountain opened to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for uncleanness.
6* And one shall say unto him, What are these wounds in thine hands? Then he shall answer, Those with which I was wounded in the house of my friends.
zech 14:1* ¶ Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
2* For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3* Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
4* And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
5* And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
Bad news for those who fight against Gods Chosen. They get nuked.
Zech 12* And this shall be the plague wherewith the LORD will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.
15* And so shall be the plague of the horse, of the mule, of the camel, and of the ass, and of all the beasts that shall be in these tents, as this plague.
Thats just a few scriptures that talk about why people hate the Jews and want to kill them. And what will happen. I might start makin so utubies talkin about all this stuff.
I am not trying to convert anyone just an opinion on what I and some evangelicals think.
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But who wrote the Bible, and why do you believe it?
Not knowing much about it, I think that's the core question to ask.
If I wanted to write a book to control people, there would be no better model to follow than the Bible. I would use it as my guide.
I would write that my people were the chosen people, I would tell everyone to be pacificts or be doomed to eternal suffering, and I would say that the words came from a supreme being, that cannot be disproven, cannot be challenged, and if you don't believe in him you are doomed.
Then I would teach people to believe in it and raise their children to believe in it.
Wasn't it an elite Jew that "converted" and spread Christianity through the Roman Empire?
What was happening to Jews at the time Christianity appeared?
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indeed.
VERY good questions to ponder.
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you back scripture with scripture.
On November 21st, 2008 carpavel says:
Christian science thinks its their founder Mary eddy baker. Catholics think its mary. But the book of Revelation has 238 direct refrences from the old testament. Jacob interprets Joe's dream. Jacobs name was changed to Israel. He would become Israel the Nation. He says "will I (sun) and your mother (moon) and your brothers (11 Stars) bow down to you"?
12:1* ¶ And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun (jacob) and the moon (rachel) under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars (11 brothers plus Joe):
Get it?
Dude as for who wrote and why believe, Dude it takes hours to go through all the evidence. Sorry but just don't have the time. and this probably not the place.
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You Said
"If I wanted to write a book to control people, there would be no better model to follow than the Bible. I would use it as my guide."
I say:
If I wanted to control[deceive] people, there would be no better model to follow than to [Infiltrate Biblical Christianity] and replace it with corrupt bablyonian mystery religions, using Constintine to comprimise the church]. I would use [religion] as my guide.
Why do you think the [Marovian] kings and queens of europe, and its ally the RC church sought to keep the bible away from the common man.
A true understanding of Gods Word emboldened the people to rise up for freedom from tyriny. The truth always sets people free.
Watch out for revisionist history.
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Its part of history....
Find the ones you cannot talk about and you have found the ones responsible for the countries illness. He who controls the media controls the people. People who believe what they see and hear on tv are most to blame for a country`s illness. In a land of sheep the shepards are the talking heads doing the bidding of the ones you cannot talk about. Wake up Neo...your country is being stolen.
lovin this!!
"The Truth is that Esu Immanuel came as a Truthbringer, the son of Archangel Gabriel. He did not die as reported, but survived the murder attempt (crucifixion) against him by the Khazarian Zionist Jews (Pharisees). He fled to India, married, had a family, traveled widely, and taught Truth until his death in Kashmir at the age of 107 years. Esu did not come to save anyone. He brought the Laws of God and the Laws of Creation again to Earth's people. God does not judge us. We judge ourselves according to those Laws. God does not save us. We save ourselves by living according to the Laws of God and Creation. At the end of each of our lifestreams we again stand alone before God Aton and judge ourselves concerning our soul growth and soul perfection. We then determine where we shall go for our next lifestream of lessons."
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its true if it is true to you
~peace
nice.
i like it.
Thats just weird
Really weird
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Weird because it goes against.
Your evangelical religion.
Yep...
You'll enjoy this.
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I feel I may have already been through this before.. ;}
hey- thanks oruval
my 12 year old enjoyed it too!! LOL
btw- just wondering if you have heard of the GAIA project 2012?
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I think you'll find this most fascinating
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"There can be only one permanent revolution - a moral one: The regeneration of the inner man."
—Tolstoy
Sheesh, that's pretty blunt. I'm surprised that was BBC.
But I guess that's because Britain was a victim?
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Hey Dale ....I think you will like this article
I don't go to 'church'...I don't do 'church'....I am the church.
The HARLOT is the 'man made church SYSTEM'....for it is a system and not a living organism ....
The REAL opposed to the counterfit is known as THE BODY of Christ...and I can hear by your own words that you belong to the BODY.
Enjoy the article...
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I also believe this is the greatest fraud
This argument keeps the world at war. We cannot fight and defeat our enemy if we dont know who they are.
Spirituality is an Individual Journey
Religion is a collectivist form of CONTROL which can be used to enslave the masses.
"Americans need to take a Democrap and wipe it's Republican from the history books of this once great Nation"
-Concerned Citizen
The more I visit here the more irony I find ....
Isn't that a quite collectivist statement in and of itself?
I consider myself very spiritual ...
And yet the least collectivist individual I know.
WAHOR!!
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I think you are missing the point
I notice that you didn't state that you were "religious"..only spiritual. Religion is collective...or we wouldn't have all the denominations and such.
I am very spiritual, I read my Bible daily, I listen to the Word on my MP3 player while working, I pray and speak to God constantly during my day.
However I can do all this, and have a personal relationship with God, without tying myself to a label forced on me by religion. This pathway also allows me to not be around the judgment of other believers and non believers, or the false teachings that come with the man behind the podium for personal gain. The Bible is God's word, I don't need a label to have a good relationship with my Creator.
It is hard for some people to understand the difference, as they see all who are spiritual and followers of Christ, as being a part of "religion". I just don't see it that way.
You're right Dale in Oklahoma, he did miss the point.
And I greatly respect your view of spirituality, if there is a god or supreme being interested in our daily lives, I'm sure that the absolute best way to find out would be through a personal relationship, rather than merely "going to church" or being told by someone else what is right or religious.
I mean, if he is there, why not have a direct relationship?
Religion is someone else telling people their opinions of how it should be, or their opinons of what god has commanded.
That's why there are so many different religions, because everyone has their own opinions.
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If you want to delve into this then I shall ...
I do not look to my religion for answers in the way you think.
The ritual aspect brings me closer to who I am. It allows me to find the answers on my own.
It would be difficult to explain and I predict that such a post as this will create many adversaries, but I can not deny what is me.
A Christian at the core ... I am.
A progressive in many respects ... I am.
A conservative in most respects ... I am.
A Freedom lover in all respects ... I am.
A religious mission ... I am not on.
A freedom mission ... I claim ownership of.
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Ritual aspect?
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Attending mass every Sunday ....
Writing my wife a love letter every single day ....
The Sacrements ...
The Rosary ....
The stations of the cross ...
etc.
These are not the answers ....
They are simply a means to an answer ...
It is not unlike a daily breakfast ritual or your happy hour ritual ...
These things bring comfort to your brain, so that it can reveal to you something that it has never revealed in the past.
Of course there are other, more spiritual aspects to these rituals, but those things will only be shared sparingly.
God Bless and good night.
WAHOR!!
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I see, I wasn't aware of the specific religion you believed in.
But now I see your comment below.
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A cradle to grave Catholic ...
Does that qualify?
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That's the problem.
In an article for The American Conservative in October 2001, Paul W. Schroeder noted the possibility that “the unacknowledged real reason and motive” behind the coming Iraq war was “security for Israel.”
You're a Catholic whom supports Zionist and Zionism.
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This in and of itself and your bullshit outlook on 9/11 verifies to me what you are.
Zionist Sympathizer.
Who is being the collectivist here?
I think your response clarifies the answer to that question.
For the record ...
I am not a zionist.
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Sympathizer.
Shill.
LOL
Is that like a nazi sympathizer?
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It's getting old rhino.
I'm not going to be drafted nor perish at the hands of people like you who think the bible an armageddon are real. Your Holy war and defense of Israel is pathetic..
Any person who truly stood up for Constitutional Freedom and the Bill of Rights wouldn't be defending another Nations militiary and economic actions.
Nor would they defend the killing of 3000 american citizens to attain that holy war.
I didn't say Nazi You twit.. stop twisting words.
Why aren't other countries afforded the same rights ...
as us?
A right of self determination.
By the way, the book of revelations along with every other book in the bible is not interpreted literally in my Catholic Church or any other Catholic Church that I am aware of.
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Oh so now the US
needs to go around beating countries on the head with the freedom stick so they too can have democracy.
Bombing for peace.
God that is so typical of your Neo-Con driven Zionist sympathizing.
I do have a couple questions ...
I posted several times about this subject ...
The Jew thread got deleted and got me banned for a time...
The Jew thread part two was edited by Mr. Nystrom to The Zionist thread and it too, got me banned for a time ...
The thread asking people to acknowledge their bigotry also got deleted and I was banned for a time ...
Here are my questions:
1. How does this not get deleted when it seems obvious to be a taboo subject?
2. How do you write such a thread without being banned?
3. How come Mr. Nystrom has not weighed in on this subject, he seems to like the controversial subjects?
4. How come I get picked on by Mr. Nystrom when I initiate such a conversation and no one else seems to be repremanded?
I have other questions, but I will leave it at that.
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You must have written something very, very offensive or untrue.
I've written several threads asking questions of, or critical of the Jewish religion, Judaism, and the way America treats Israel and I've never had one deleted, nor have I been banned.
I'm sure you probably know better than anyone why your posts were deleted and why you were banned.
It must have been pretty bad.
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I never ask a question I do not know the answer to ...
The answer is simple ...
The ones that complain to Mr. Nystrom about a poster are the very same ones that wish to be able to post anything they want.
And as it turns out, most of them are advarserial towards me.
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Who, and why?
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Who ... I have no idea ...
Why ... of course I would only be speculating ...
And I am sure you can do the same.
WAHOR!!
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Do you have a few account names?
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The One Word That Will Always Get You Banned ..
Doesnt matter where you use it or in what context it is used.
Use of the J ( or Z) word will always make you the poster boy for propoganda dissemination which you will invariably find yourself both outnumbered and incapapble of responding to.
I'm taking a break myself :)
I don't know Michael personally and
wouldn't second-guess how he runs his site. But since you say you started a "jew" thread, instead of a Zionist thread, that seems an obvious clue. Zionism is a political issue; ethnicity is irrelevant, and anyone who is all focused on people's ethnic heritages would appear to have a collectist mentality rather than an individualist philosophy.
If you knew what the thread was actually about ...
Your conclusions would be the exact opposite.
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Waaa Waaa Waaa.....
How in the hell can you come to the conclusion that "Mr.Nystrom" is picking on you and yet you can't figure out 911 was an inside job?
I think you should start sucking on the other thumb now rhino
Switch Bitch.....
Revolt For Freedom !!!
I apologize if that came across as whining ...
They were sincere questions.
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If they were sincere
it explains everything.... o_O
"There can be only one permanent revolution - a moral one: The regeneration of the inner man."
—Tolstoy
"I was in the delivery room in [Mombasa,] Kenya when he was born Aug. 4, 1961."
—Sarah Obama (Obama's paternal grandmother)
My problem with any religion
My problem with any religion which claims they are CHOSEN is that it makes everyone else... SHIITE! Oh.. so my two lil boys don't mean shiite? right? The Jewish religion sets them up for being disliked. How would you like a bunch of chinamen breakin your doors down right now and throw your family in the streets while saying.. WE ARE MAO's PEOPLE and this is our LAND and your are in OUR HOUSE because MAO gave it to us!!! C'mon... that aint GODLY... it's SADISTIC!
Does my burka make my butt look fatwa?
sorry I had to teach a bible study.
Ok I hear what your sayin. We kind of did that to the indians. But, there were Jews already in Israel. The english controlled the region. The Jews lived alongside the inhabitents of the land. The Jews were treated like poop. But they rose up to take controll of the goverment not unlike the american revolution. They threw off british rule. If some treated the natives of the land poorly then that was on them. The Jews allow arabs to live as citizens so long as they obey the law. but, if they refuse to accept Israel and are going to be troublemakers hell yeah get out. If somebody tried to wipe me off the face of the earth I would not go easily. So when they won a war they did not start they took some land for their trouble.
I just don't see the big deal.
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carpavel, you seem to know a little about Jews.
I asked this earlier, but nobody really answered;
Why is it that, as you put it, people have been trying to wipe Jews off the face of the earth?
What in the world have they been known for that would cause so much hate towards them? So much hate that some people would try to completely exterminate them?
I've been watching movies and reading about Hitler and World War II recently, and they all talk about how he wanted to exterminate the Jews, but none of them really tell why - they just generally say he was racist or a "madman."
There doesn't even seem to be this level of hate for black people by white supremacists, and Jews are generally white.
So what's the deal with some people hating Jews so much that some have even gone so far as to try to exterminate them all?
I realize I'm probably going to have to research this more myself, but any opinions?
Is it for the same reasons that we are upset with many of the Jewish people in the American government today?
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Well...
If you claim you are 'god's chosen people', you have to expect some backlash.
I am atheist. BUT if I did lose my mind and believe in the fairy tale, then I would have to say every variety of person is 'god's chosen people'.
That being said, if some asshat comes up to me and tells me they and ones like them are god's chosen people... I wouldn't think twice about putting that person in place or in a hole in the ground. The direct meaning by saying they are 'chosen' is that I am not and thus worth less than they. A direct insult and a grim view of how low they look at each human life.
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Here is the biblical answer.
Rev 12:1* ¶ And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
2* And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
3* And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
4* And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
5* And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
Who is the women? Israel.
Joe' dream. He would be #12 star.
Gen 37:9* And he dreamed yet another dream, and told it his brethren, and said, Behold, I have dreamed a dream more; and, behold, the sun and the moon and the eleven stars made obeisance to me.
10* And he told it to his father, and to his brethren: and his father rebuked him, and said unto him, What is this dream that thou hast dreamed? Shall I and thy mother and thy brethren indeed come to bow down ourselves to thee to the earth?
Rev 12:13* And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
The devil thinks he can stop Gods divine plan. !st by killing off all the Jews before Christ came. in egypt by lilling all the males and also in the book of ruth.
God made promises to the Jewish people . . . God never breaks his promises. the rejection of Jesus by the jewish leaders caused them to be put on the shelf for a time. God promised to bring them back into the land one day to fufill those promises one day.
This is old testement
Zech 13:1* ¶ In that day there shall be a fountain opened to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for uncleanness.
6* And one shall say unto him, What are these wounds in thine hands? Then he shall answer, Those with which I was wounded in the house of my friends.
zech 14:1* ¶ Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
2* For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3* Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
4* And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
5* And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
Bad news for those who fight against Gods Chosen. They get nuked.
Zech 12* And this shall be the plague wherewith the LORD will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.
15* And so shall be the plague of the horse, of the mule, of the camel, and of the ass, and of all the beasts that shall be in these tents, as this plague.
Thats just a few scriptures that talk about why people hate the Jews and want to kill them. And what will happen. I might start makin so utubies talkin about all this stuff.
I am not trying to convert anyone just an opinion on what I and some evangelicals think.
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But who wrote the bible, and why do you believe it?
Why do you believe the woman is Israel?
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