California wildfires = government fraud

of cameras we have going, is every stretch of highway, road and parking lot under surveillance?? This would be a good area to make some good use of cameras.

Maybe the California government couldn't do much about this because the gov is irresponsible and nearly bankrupt as it is.

I live 15 miles east of the Triangle Fire. Unlike Sarah Palin and Russia, I could see it from my house.

The DC-10 tanker was out and dropping slurry on both the Triangle and Sylmar fires.

The IL-76 does not meet FAA airworthiness standards. It took the DC-10 tanker two years because of the airframe modifications, and was used during a test waiver last year before entering regular service this year. The football fields you reference may be fins on flat ground, but this was not flat ground. That changes the calculus.

Water availability for these fires is tight, and the relative heat levels of the fires make a water drop become a steam drop. In both fires the heat wall ahead of the actual flames was causing spontaneous combusting of objects. There really isn't anything any firefighters can do with that. That's also why they used slurry instead of water. The DC-10 is based out of Victorville, in the high desert (Colorado Aqueduct water only).

The Santa Ana winds also made some air drops impossible. It also caused the fires to spread as fast as they did, including jumping 12-lane freeways. Some spots on the 91 look like an oversize BBQ, and Santa Ana Canyon smells like a giant ashtray. They also kick up at night, when the planes and choppers can't fly.

Also, as any firefighter who does forest fires will tell you, different techniques and equipment are used in different areas and situations. Not every fire calls for the DC-10, and not every part of a fire that could use the DC-10 will use it. Smaller Orion turboprops and helicopters can work in tighter places than the DC-10, and the ground crews in even tighter spots.

IOW, you have no idea what you are talking about.

One last thing: if you look at the fire maps, most of what burned was open space, not residential areas. While it is legal and required in CA to create fire breaks around houses, not many do it. The folks in Montecito had that problem. In the open spaces, the philosophy is to let it burn and establish a break line before it gets into residential areas. The logic of that is to burn off the fuel for the future. It works, too. The northern part of the Sylmar fire ran into a section that had burned last year, and the lack of fuel stopped it cold in the Grapevine.

for any airplane, no matter how big to dip from. These planes are very ineffective in dry climates because the "turnaround time" (the time it takes the plane to pick up and drop off a load of water) is too long. The fire will return to its previous strength in a relatively short amount of time.

While I see a lot of conspiracies alive and well today, this I doubt is oneof them. Where is individual responsibility? People who clear brush from the canyons below their homes, who grow watery, succulent plants densely around their homes, who have non-flammable roofs, have a big chance of surviving these fires. Our government is doing plently of evil things, but I seriously doubt that this is one of them.

Pat

BOHICA!!

http://www.flightlevel350...

" The Il-76 waterbomber is a VAP-2 1.5 hour install/removal tanking kit conversion. It has stirred a decade of controversy in the west at a time where more powerful firefighting assists are needed. The Il-76 can carry 11,000 U.S. gallons (41,600 liters) of water; three times the capacity of the Hercules C-130. "

The linked story says 16,000 gallons - a rather large discrepancy !

The converted DC-9 910 waterbomber carries 12,000 gallons.

Does anyone know what the price of an IL76 waterbomber is ? And what the operating costs are ?

Could the fires be a control burn in an effort to stabilize real estate prices?

I always have the same thoughts. Why is they allow this to happen every year, if the environmentalist and the government would let folks cut roads through, they could fight the fires, but that might hurt a snail so they let the whole countryside burn every year. Why not let folks log out some of the timber? Less fuel to burn and would also make easier access to fight the fire. Also which is more environmentally friendly, to cut a few trees and use the lumber, and push through some access roads, or let the whole thing burn every year? it has become a yearly occurrence, yet they refuse to do anything different.

Thank you Dr. Paul for making me act on what I already knew was right.

You're a nutjob.

the comentator also touches on 911 being a joke.

~Mikael / Peace, love, Light and unity ~