Oh I'm feeling like a sucker.
Posted November 20th, 2008 by oruval
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Has it occurred to anyone else here. That the reason RustyBuick. And the other bullshit pushers are posting divisive crap is because of how much Air Time Dr. Paul has gotten recently..
I mean it makes sense to me looking back at how the Primaries went.. Every time their was a Major Debate or Ron Paul got some air time it was like Trolls came out of the wood work to start divisive topics.
I almost feel ashamed to know I've been suckered in once again to responding numerous times on a post that I know was posted to cause Division..
This dosen't mean we shouldn't discuss topics of importance like 9/11 and Zionism control of parts of the US government.. But the approach is obviously not one of discussion instead it is one of division.. which is what those in power want..
I am wondering if anyone else here feels this way today?
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What it takes....
...is a delicate, experienced assessment of what is bull, what is propoganda, and what is diversion. almost everything else is at least up for debate or preview.
temper your emotional reaction to posts....step back, ...research the author and/or subject....and respond accordingly.
more importantly....do not respond, but accordingly.
And just like that.. POOF..
All the trolls are gone. Even the ones on facebook I've been arguing with have stopped..
Weird..huh? What was that.. Two days non stop?
It's almost peaceful.. I'm even looking through the list of online people right now at 10:58 pm est. and I don't see any..
Does anyone know when Ron Paul will be on TV again with as much coverage as he's had in the past few days.. I'm willing to bet this will happen again.
Oh, look Oruval.
You made the news.
http://www.reuters.com/ar...
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Truther?
No, sir!
You are the Troll. You are keeping divisive issues alive..
DID ANYONE COPY THE TEXT OF THE ISSUES FROM THE PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAING.
"Write the Vision so they that read it can run with it."
Dr. Paul wrote the Vision.
Stop injection YOUR Vision into it ! Your Issues are 9/11 and some "zionist conspiracy" not Dr. Pauls.
IN SHORT You wan't to know who the trolls are..
He who smelt it dealt it.
You sir are cordially invited to the pit of eternal damnation.
Get on Dr. Pauls issues, micro brain.
So are you going to copy and paste that
more than twice on this thread.. It was posted below.. You reposted it at the top.. You never answered my question, What are you an expert of exactly..
These issues are foremost important when you realize what's the Cause of the current state we're in.. (9/11) and who caused it (ZIONISTS).
I've done much for spreading Ron Pauls principles of a Constitutional Republic and Sound Monetary System.
And please stop re posting a bunch of grey matter on my forum topic.. Please.
Proofreading.
You should try it.
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like a fire needs oxygen
trolls need people to reply to their posts.
i just ignore them - and poof they just go away, magic!
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Black Powder keg update ....
Just got a call from my buddy that I gave the keg to.
As it turns out ...
It was one of the last kegs ever to come out of the Dupont factory before it burned down.
The guy put it on ebay and got $2500 for it.
He wanted to give me half, but I told him to donate it to his church.
You missed out on that one Oruval.
Not to mention that it would have fed your cannon for years.
WAHOR!!
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Yes, definitely. The trolls come in waves - tied to coverage.
It's very, very hard, but the best thing to do is to ignore them. Maybe I should use the one minute rule. :P If I see a crappy post, and I'm ready to reply, maybe I should leave the thread, wait a minute and see if the post still is even significant enough at all to justify wasting my time on.
Ron Paul's Convention Speech
Yes..
http://www.911-strike.com...
Mark your calendar, Oruval
We (kinda) agree on something today!
While you and I famously disagree on the 9/11 subject, I certainly support your right to have a differing opinion. I would even like to see more investigation if we can ever get around to it as a country.
However, I agree with you concerning division. Many topics, such as 9/11, zionism, abortion, etc are inherently divisive. Opinions are well and truly split with many earnest and good-intentioned people on both sides of the debate.
As a result, any discussion will quickly degenerate into a divisive post that could only be called a flame-war. That's just the nature of the beast in this case.
I, personally, advocate leaving those topics to more focused websites and trying to keep this website solely about Dr. Paul's message and how we can get more like-minded people into office.
No I'm not talking about
Not discussing them here.. I'm saying that discussion is one thing.. Presenting False information is another.
Perhaps...
but who is it that gets to define what is and is not false information?
I would suggest that slinging around labels like "false information" and "disinfo" is one of the quickest routes to a flamewar.
That's why I think these topics are best saved for other outlets.
Well Because I usually post
Topics that are backed by Scientific Fact comprising Thermodynamics and Newtonian Physics for that matter...
If that isn't fact enough for you then I cannot explain anything to you.
Then of course their is other things like 80 plus videos that would prove once an for all that it was a plane or not that hit the Pentagon that magically cannot be released.
That's why I think you and Ironman77, Bbagnall, Horiusatthegates, Freejesseventura, Rhino, Rustybuick and a few others I've missed are ones who have always taken a stance against the truth and truth seekers and are purposefully trying to cover it up and white wash it.
This is walking a fine line...
While things like the laws of themodynamics and newtonian mechanics are well defined and well established, your (or anyone's) application of them can be flawed. Just ask those guys at NASA about those tricky english to metric conversions.
Things like that cannot be properly vetted in a forum such as this... which again, is why I advocate sticking to things that actually can have positive outcomes.
Oh please.
There you go saying that it cannot be discussed on this site because of application.. That's like saying people here are to stupid to understand physics presentend to them.. You do realize that is hypocritical of you.
You want to stick to something that has a positive outcome then keep the Hemp farmer post, or the B-17cancer cure post bumped for all to see instead of sitting here calling people idiots because they utilize simple newtonian physics to prove a point.. That's why science is so great.. it is a Hypothesis that can break down a complex subject into somthing for anyone to understand.
All I ever see you try to do is post that we shouldn't discuss 9/11.
No, The truth is that the more air time RP gets
The more wild 911 and other conspiracy bullshit we see here. It is much more likely that there are a number of conintelpro people trying to discredit RP by linking him to such overtly paranoid, science illiterate folks like yourself.
It happened during the campaign as well, and it was clearly linked with the media - a bunch of Inside job posts would show up, and shortly thereafter some MSM talking head would be asking RP bullshit conspiracy questions.
If someone keynesian wanted to discredit RP's economic advise, the easiest way is to link him with conspiracy nuts - at least the nazi's were smart enough to shut up.
You are a person
That dosen't take science and physics seriously.
So you calling 9/11 truth activists and what they discuss a bunch of "bullshit" it really dosen't help your postion on the matter.
Real Patriots for 9/11 truth -- http://patriotsquestion91...
Hey Oruval! I tried to tell you!
here was my comment re rustybuick
http://www.dailypaul.com/...
Peace!
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And you just caught that??
Well, welcome then! Coffee's ready! Grab a cup and get your breakfast.
Many here ride the dis-info pony. I know it's attractive to take pot-shots at their idiotic posts but you and I are better served if they are just ignored and allowed to vanish.
Oh, by the way....Ron Paul was G. Bush Sr.'s spotter during the Kennedy assassination (resist...resist...)
I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...
LOL..
No I've realized from before.. I just couldn't help myself yesterday..
You know that they are outright lying and then when you call them on it they troll you.
Damn Straight Homey...
We really showed the flushed the Trolls out today !
Dr. Paul asks us not to associate 9/11 movement with his name.
And, prayers are made daily for the peace in Jerusalem and regret that Anti-Semitism has been so strongly attached to the Label of Dr. Paul , who has fought alone for peace through rational objective hard nosed thinking and a deep personal faith.
It DOES MEAN THAT YOU SHOULD NOT DISCUSS 9/11 AND ZIONISM.
OR anything portrayed as Anti-Zionist. It Hurts the Cause.
On page 207 and other places in "A Foreing Policy of Freedom" by Dr. Paul he does talk about the Corporate Banking Influence in Government.
That is Great. USE THOSE WORDS. Capiche...
Yes, You were owned today by an expert. I'm not a "troll" whatever the hell that is.
I love Dr. Paul with all my heart. Be Thankful that I am on the side of the light and not the anti-civilization.
But, "we" did flush out people that have deep seated anti-semitic thought systems, who were posting things that Dr. Paul specifically asked and would not want associated with his name.
Good Job.. (Don't be an asshole and be run by your limbic brain next time, then you will be owned and controlled by others, your probably running a lot of hypnotic commands as well and need some cleaning.)
No one wants "division". But, it is 9/11 and the words zionist bankers and take a stand against zionism / anti-semite language that is TROLLISH / DIVISIVE AND HARMFUL.
YES IS DOES FREAKING MEAN "WE" SHOULDNT DISCUSS 9/11 AND A "ZIONIST CONSPIRACY" OR ANY OTHER CONSPIRACIES FOR THAT FREAKING MATTER.
DID ANYONE COPY THE TEXT OF THE ISSUES FROM THE PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAING.
"Write the Vision so they that read it can run with it."
Dr. Paul wrote the Vision.
Stop injection YOUR Vision into it ! Your Issues are 9/11 and some "zionist conspiracy" not Dr. Pauls.
IN SHORT You wan't to know who the trolls are..
He who smelt it dealt it.
The unknowing people who posted negatively to Ron Paul is a Zionist.
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I now repent.
If I can take those steps again,
Tomorrow will I make amends
And heal with love those hurts.
I do this pledge.
And if a hurt has struck me deep
And no amends are made,
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Who do you think you are.
The thougth police.. Get the hell out of here.. These issues are foremost important when you realize what's the Cause of the current state we're in.. (9/11) and who caused it (ZIONISTS).
Oh and to hell with you pal.. I've done much for spreading Ron Pauls principles of a Constitutional Republic and Sound Monetary System.
You didn't own me yesterday.. And please tell me an expert of what exactly you are? Expert of Spreading lies perhaps?
And please stop posting a bunch of grey matter on my forum topic.. Nobody really cares to read your posted poems.
You are a disease, oruval. We're the cure.
You ---> "Spreading Truth"
=
Plains Settlers ---> Spreading Smallpox
Straight up! These guys are
Straight up! These guys are just trying to divide us. Daily Paul is a site for us to unite under a common cause, not argue about differences in our personal beliefs.
Anyone trying to stifle free speech on this site or attacking people for doing so, obviously don't understand the overall message of freedom, truth and liberty that Dr. Paul is trying to spread.
Not to mention they probably get paid to come here and mess with us all. Its real obvious who they are. rustybuick and freejesseventura are the worst.
Fuck 'em lets ignore 'em.
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"So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause."
Nice observation...
and so true. The trolls are out in force...
The extra divisiveness is
The extra divisiveness is human nature, because we were beaten in the elections badly. Of course--so was the rest of America. Obama was the absolute worst choice available.
I hope Dr. Paul makes a decision on running soon.
SUPPORT OUR FOUNDERS' AMERICA
Support the Constitution of the United States
right under
mccain, you mean.
No, McCain was not as
No, McCain was not as potentially dangerous as Obama.
SUPPORT OUR FOUNDERS' AMERICA
Support the Constitution of the United States
I have always recognized this.
The trick is being able to discern right away (as soon as possible anyway) the good from the bad. Just keep your eyes open, buddy. :-)
--Cliff, Sioux City, Iowa
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My reasoning sounds pretty reasonable to me.
Secret key to happiness: Stay happy. Shhh!
there are always trolls andd
there are always trolls andd shills in every cause... people who have nothing better to do than to get in other peoples' way.
we must ignore them and keep moving forward.
boys, BOYS
Stop fighting. We're all on the same side. Jeez get a grip. There's too much to do, too much information to disseminate. Stop the foul play. Let's get it together.
Agreed.
I was posting this because of what I've witnessed today.. Freejesseventura is just trying to get a fight started.. I'm not trying to actively get a flame war started with that troll.
Ding, ding, ding! You're the
Ding, ding, ding! You're the winner of the Nitwit of the Year Award! I knew ya could do it, boy! Yeeeeehaw!
FreeJesus
Is one pissed off catholic
Hmmm... try something with a
Hmmm... try something with a little more razzle-dazzle.
.
http://www.regent.edu/gen...
Now you are truly pathetic.
Now you are truly pathetic.
Wow..
I post the constitution and now I'm pathetic.
good night loser.
HAHA how ya doin buddy?
HAHA how ya doin buddy?
Actually Im about to sleep.
But good none the less. Hey do me a favor and get Freejesseventura some midol..
He seems like he's on his period or something.
Better tuck Kentucky boy in.
Better tuck Kentucky boy in. Gonna be a cold night in the barn.
Consider it Done
Consider it Done Kentucky...
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LOL..
You rock!!
Oh, you kids. Don't forget
Oh, you kids. Don't forget to clean your stalls after you've "had relations" with each other.
I thought these forum posts
I thought these forum posts were clearly against the terms of use here at Daily Paul.
Micheal Nystrom, please do everyone a favor and ban this... thing.
this guy
Is one pissed off Hindu.
Pathetic.
I cant think of a better term for you..
In the land of deceit truth is treason.
But you can't spell it, can
But you can't spell it, can you?
What are you talking about
Pathetic one.