spot price of gild 749.00 up 14.10
silver 8.95 down .24 they are having a hard time manipulating both metals at once like they used to.. the big prick banks who are manipulating these markets.. goldman and jp morgan are desparate right now. the silver short position is largest of all short position in concentration of any "commodity" in world history. if silver takes off it would wipe out jpmorgan! we can only hope! this is why they
are fighting tooth and nail.. trying to get the spot price down as far they can before they move to cover thier shorts.
"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson
I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain
It won't take the entire 74 year "lease" to complete the "Trans American Corridor", it'll take just under a decade. The bailout money and paper manipulation will see to it that no sovereign entity (USA) will recieve one penny, and no American will be hired. Foriegn engineers are already here. Eighty percent of our natural resources are supposedly laid claim to by foriegners (China, Italy, Russia etc.) which will result in poisoning and degradation environmentally, ("they" don't give a damn) relentless environmental plunder and excavation . . . everything on the fast track, USA gutted like a belly slit fish. At least the Indians got wooden beads when they sold Manhattan. We are actually paying for our own extinction.
And never forget, “Humans, despite our artistic pretensions, our sophistication and many accomplishments, owe the fact of our existence to a six-inch layer of topsoil and the fact that it rains.”
I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue. Barry Goldwater
No, not even that Sierra...I mean the Official Price of gold...in other words at $42.22 per ounce of gold and silver at $1.28 per ounce. That is what our government sells its gold for to other governments...not market, not spot.
I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue. Barry Goldwater
you don't have to be a brain surgeon to figure this out...they take worthless frn's and spend them on a valuable precious metal...wtf!
What do our "leaders" do? They say, Look! the dollar is strong! They continue to sell us out for their own benefit...someday they will all pay for this...they are all (most of them) traitors and will be tried and convicted as such!
O Captain, My Captain, rise up and hear the bells!
I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue. Barry Goldwater
I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue. Barry Goldwater
to me. You hear about floor to ceiling large bars of gold supposedly stored away in reserve, but when you think about that and what is circulated those numbers don't sound like it would cover it all. The ancient Egyptians and other cultures used gold for everything. Maybe they practiced alchemy.
Due to the nature of gold, its quite a bit. Imagine, the amount under the ground is estimated to be about as much as above. Now, if you are talking in terms on monetary gold, you should read the works of David Hume, and of course later the works of Rothbard. Rothbard stated that the money supply in a sound monetary system doesn't matter and he gives some very good reasons why it doesn't matter.
I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue. Barry Goldwater
I believe they sold all their silver to pay for it...... Lost my ass yet again. I personally believe that gold and silver are finished. You will not see them "explode" as we are all being led to believe. I am convinced it is being manipulated and used as a cash machine for the financial institutions and as long as they can make a buck off pushing it back, they will do so which translates to eternity. You wanna make money in the metals? Every time I make a move, do the exact opposite, it has proven itself to be a GUARANTEED win. Not once since August, have the metals gone the way I played, not once. Exactly every time, at the time, that I have made any move, within one day the market has moved massively in the opposite direction. This puts it at about 8 times now. Until I short metals, your markets will not rise. I am now sure and confident that I control the metals markets single handedly. Time to throw in the towel and hunt for a bridge to move in under. It's been fun all.
what about the unreported news? surely china is smart enough to buy silver... pushing the price of silver ratio to gold even closer. i read someday silver may go higher than gold!?!!
I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue. Barry Goldwater
How Goldfinger nearly became Goldprick Author discloses spat between architect and Bond's creator
Goldfinger was a man who thought big, a champion of communism, an eccentric, a bully who put people in fear. And that was just the architect.
The story of the Erno Goldfinger's vehement reaction when the author Ian Fleming appropriated his name - and aspects of his character - with deliberate savagery for the villain and title of the James Bond novel was disclosed to the Guardian Hay festival yesterday.
The dispute led to legal action. When the film Goldfinger came out, the architect was afflicted by spoof calls in the middle of the night. Callers would intone in bad Sean Connery accents, "Goldfinger? This is agent 007," or sing the film's theme tune, "an irritation still endured by members of the family who list their names in the telephone directory," Nigel Warburton, of the Open University, told a breakfast-time audience.
Fleming turned the dominating, 6ft 2in Erno into the 5ft imperious megalomaniac Auric Goldfinger, who nearly succeeds in stealing the US gold reserves at Fort Knox for the Soviet Union.
Erno - like Auric - was a British-naturalised foreigner and a Marxist who spent much of the second world war raising money for the Soviet cause. Otherwise there were differences between the two, as Dr Warburton noted, discussing his new book Erno Goldfinger: The Life of an Architect, the first biography to be published.
But when Erno's business associate Jacob Blacker was asked for his opinion of a proof copy of the Bond story, he told Erno ironically that he could find only one substantial difference: "You're called Erno and he's called Auric."
Erno Goldfinger was one of the 20th century's prime advocates of London tower blocks. He designed the often reviled Alexander Fleming House at the Elephant and Castle, Trellick Tower in Ladbroke Grove and Balfron Tower in Tower Hamlets.
i.e, what China should do with its dollars. The answer seemed obvious to me: liquidate them, gold being the obvious object of conversion. And, it is smart to do it slowly but deliberately, and not to announce a policy of liquidation.
It appears that's what they are beginning to do. It's the smart thing.
________________________________________________
"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels
I've often wondered about the numbers there myself. In either case, if they decide to buy up that much, I've gotta look around and find me some Somalis to hijack that shit.
Russians invest in gold bars
http://en.rian.ru/video/2...
In 2008, Russians bought several times more gold and silver than in 2007, assuming this will protect them from economy fluctuations.
44sec video at link.
spot price of gild 749.00 up
spot price of gild 749.00 up 14.10
silver 8.95 down .24 they are having a hard time manipulating both metals at once like they used to.. the big prick banks who are manipulating these markets.. goldman and jp morgan are desparate right now. the silver short position is largest of all short position in concentration of any "commodity" in world history. if silver takes off it would wipe out jpmorgan! we can only hope! this is why they
are fighting tooth and nail.. trying to get the spot price down as far they can before they move to cover thier shorts.
"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson
I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain
USA gutted like a belly slit fish
It won't take the entire 74 year "lease" to complete the "Trans American Corridor", it'll take just under a decade. The bailout money and paper manipulation will see to it that no sovereign entity (USA) will recieve one penny, and no American will be hired. Foriegn engineers are already here. Eighty percent of our natural resources are supposedly laid claim to by foriegners (China, Italy, Russia etc.) which will result in poisoning and degradation environmentally, ("they" don't give a damn) relentless environmental plunder and excavation . . . everything on the fast track, USA gutted like a belly slit fish. At least the Indians got wooden beads when they sold Manhattan. We are actually paying for our own extinction.
And never forget, “Humans, despite our artistic pretensions, our sophistication and many accomplishments, owe the fact of our existence to a six-inch layer of topsoil and the fact that it rains.”
Remember too, they are
Remember too, they are paying "official gold and silver prices" not market prices...in other words they are getting gold and silver for a song!!!!
http://www.1776solution.b...
I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue. Barry Goldwater
yep at spot or below. "When
yep at spot or below.
"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson
I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain
No, not even that Sierra...I
No, not even that Sierra...I mean the Official Price of gold...in other words at $42.22 per ounce of gold and silver at $1.28 per ounce. That is what our government sells its gold for to other governments...not market, not spot.
http://www.1776solution.b...
I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue. Barry Goldwater
you know...
you don't have to be a brain surgeon to figure this out...they take worthless frn's and spend them on a valuable precious metal...wtf!
What do our "leaders" do? They say, Look! the dollar is strong! They continue to sell us out for their own benefit...someday they will all pay for this...they are all (most of them) traitors and will be tried and convicted as such!
O Captain, My Captain, rise up and hear the bells!
Very Interesting Point.
Ron Paul's Convention Speech
How much gold is there on the planet?
from what I understand Gold isn't indigenous to earth, is this true?
120,000 and 140,000 tonnes
120,000 and 140,000 tonnes of gold has been mined and is considered "above ground".
http://www.1776solution.b...
I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue. Barry Goldwater
So, if I have done my math right
Aprox. 3858 million ounces. Does anyone have an estimate of how much gold there could be unmined?
the US geolical survey says
the US geolical survey says there is only 15 to 20 years left of gold that can be mined with todays mining methods.. silver is 10 to 15 years.
"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson
I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain
estimates vary and it
estimates vary and it depends on advancements in mining technology, but somewhere around another 120,000 tonnes remain.
http://www.1776solution.b...
I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue. Barry Goldwater
That just does not sound like a lot of gold
to me. You hear about floor to ceiling large bars of gold supposedly stored away in reserve, but when you think about that and what is circulated those numbers don't sound like it would cover it all. The ancient Egyptians and other cultures used gold for everything. Maybe they practiced alchemy.
Due to the nature of gold,
Due to the nature of gold, its quite a bit. Imagine, the amount under the ground is estimated to be about as much as above. Now, if you are talking in terms on monetary gold, you should read the works of David Hume, and of course later the works of Rothbard. Rothbard stated that the money supply in a sound monetary system doesn't matter and he gives some very good reasons why it doesn't matter.
http://www.1776solution.b...
I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue. Barry Goldwater
Judging by the looks of the prices this morning......
I believe they sold all their silver to pay for it...... Lost my ass yet again. I personally believe that gold and silver are finished. You will not see them "explode" as we are all being led to believe. I am convinced it is being manipulated and used as a cash machine for the financial institutions and as long as they can make a buck off pushing it back, they will do so which translates to eternity. You wanna make money in the metals? Every time I make a move, do the exact opposite, it has proven itself to be a GUARANTEED win. Not once since August, have the metals gone the way I played, not once. Exactly every time, at the time, that I have made any move, within one day the market has moved massively in the opposite direction. This puts it at about 8 times now. Until I short metals, your markets will not rise. I am now sure and confident that I control the metals markets single handedly. Time to throw in the towel and hunt for a bridge to move in under. It's been fun all.
Mike.. every manipulation in
Mike.. every manipulation in history has ended... and ended badly for the manipulators!
"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson
I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain
got silver?
what about the unreported news? surely china is smart enough to buy silver... pushing the price of silver ratio to gold even closer. i read someday silver may go higher than gold!?!!
While the Federal Reserve is
While the Federal Reserve is selling gold, along with the rest of Western Europe.
http://www.1776solution.b...
I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue. Barry Goldwater
Interesting 'related' article...
http://www.guardian.co.uk...
How Goldfinger nearly became Goldprick
Author discloses spat between architect and Bond's creator
Goldfinger was a man who thought big, a champion of communism, an eccentric, a bully who put people in fear. And that was just the architect.
The story of the Erno Goldfinger's vehement reaction when the author Ian Fleming appropriated his name - and aspects of his character - with deliberate savagery for the villain and title of the James Bond novel was disclosed to the Guardian Hay festival yesterday.
The dispute led to legal action. When the film Goldfinger came out, the architect was afflicted by spoof calls in the middle of the night. Callers would intone in bad Sean Connery accents, "Goldfinger? This is agent 007," or sing the film's theme tune, "an irritation still endured by members of the family who list their names in the telephone directory," Nigel Warburton, of the Open University, told a breakfast-time audience.
Fleming turned the dominating, 6ft 2in Erno into the 5ft imperious megalomaniac Auric Goldfinger, who nearly succeeds in stealing the US gold reserves at Fort Knox for the Soviet Union.
Erno - like Auric - was a British-naturalised foreigner and a Marxist who spent much of the second world war raising money for the Soviet cause. Otherwise there were differences between the two, as Dr Warburton noted, discussing his new book Erno Goldfinger: The Life of an Architect, the first biography to be published.
But when Erno's business associate Jacob Blacker was asked for his opinion of a proof copy of the Bond story, he told Erno ironically that he could find only one substantial difference: "You're called Erno and he's called Auric."
Erno Goldfinger was one of the 20th century's prime advocates of London tower blocks. He designed the often reviled Alexander Fleming House at the Elephant and Castle, Trellick Tower in Ladbroke Grove and Balfron Tower in Tower Hamlets.
You guys do not see the big picture.
Guess with what currency they are going to buy this stuff with?
Yup dollars. This is a way of dumping some dollars without calling it a nuclear option.
That I consider pretty big.
this is why they can win a
this is why they can win a war without firing a shot! Iran is rumored to have bought 75 billion in gold.. Saudi Arabia just bought 3.5 billion!
"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson
I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain
Gee....why would China invest soooo much in this...
..potentially worthless metal? I wonder?
Like many others here on DP, I got rid of all my metals and bought a huge brackish water tank with loads of colorful fishies.
Now THAT has value, baby.
I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...
so they
can trade them for more federal reserve notes when the price of gold skyrockets? LMAO!
We're up shit creek and I can't find a paddle!
I'm selling paddles for gold....
...or silver. No FRN's please.
I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...
This Came Up In Another Thread
i.e, what China should do with its dollars. The answer seemed obvious to me: liquidate them, gold being the obvious object of conversion. And, it is smart to do it slowly but deliberately, and not to announce a policy of liquidation.
It appears that's what they are beginning to do. It's the smart thing.
________________________________________________
"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels
wheres the gold!? =D
wheres the gold!?
=D
Cool article
I've often wondered about the numbers there myself. In either case, if they decide to buy up that much, I've gotta look around and find me some Somalis to hijack that shit.
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