U.S. income tax invalid because Ohio wasn't legally a state when the 16th amendment was ratified?
Posted November 20th, 2008 by Daryl
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For those of you who would like to have a very interesting read. Check this out, it's very insightful. This is an explanation from Cecil Adams. It seems timely, as the Full U.S. supreme court is about to hear arguments on the New Jersey Natural Born President status on Dec 5, 2008.
"It all started when Ohio was preparing to celebrate the 150th anniversary of its admission to the Union in 1953. Researchers looking for the original statehood documents discovered there'd been a little oversight. While Congress had approved Ohio's boundaries and constitution, it had never passed a resolution formally admitting the future land of the Buckeyes. Technically, therefore, Ohio wasn't a state.
OK, said the resisters, but the proposed amendment had been introduced to Congress by the administration of William H. Taft. Taft had been born in Cincinnati, Ohio, in 1857. The Constitution requires that presidents be natural-born citizens of the United States. Since Ohio wasn't a state in 1857, Taft wasn't a natural-born citizen, couldn't legally be president, and couldn't legally introduce the 16th Amendment. (Presumably one would also have problems with anything done by presidents Grant, Hayes, Garfield, B. Harrison, McKinley, and Harding, who were also born in Ohio.)"
To top it off they used an Ex Post Facto law to make Ohio a state. So is it's state status legal?
This is what happens when we don't demand a strict adherence to the constitution!
Read the entire article below.
--Daryl
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This is questionable and highly dubious.
Ohio became US territory as part of the Northwest Territory in 1795 from the Treaty of Greenville, joining the Northwest Territory that was established in 1787 by the Northwest Ordinance. Ohio Territory established a constitution and boundaries for statehood that was approved by Congress under the terms of the Enabling Act of 1802 and signed by President Jefferson on 2-19-1803. The custom of Congress declaring statehood by resolution started with Louisiana in 1812.
So Ohio was a state. Even if it wasn't officially, then it was still a territory, and therefore within sovereign US borders, so Taft being born in Ohio makes him natural-born one way or another without any doubt.
And all President Taft did was propose the 16th Amendment in an address. The resolution that became the Amendment, as all do, originated with the Congress. So even if Taft was not a natural-born citizen and ineligible to be President, blame the Congress for introducing the bastard amendment.
So we can call this long stretch nothing but junk.
as this depression really
as this depression really gets rolling, there will be lots of tax protests!
"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson
I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain
It is very illegal and but that doesn't mean its not enforced..
Our country is known for enforcing illegal laws all the time. As for the 16th amendment's ratification it was not legally ratified. At the time of the 16th Amendment there were still 48 states which meant 3/4 or 36 states had to vote "yea" to ratifiy it. According to records only 27 states voted and some of their votes are not in support of the 16th amendment as it is today. Also the Supreme Court has ruled several occasions since then that the 16th Amendment gives Congress no new powers of taxation because it would cause the Constitution to conflict with itself which it cannot do, but they still enforce it which in the end is really all that matters.
Do you have a website..
Do you have a website that can direct us to each states' ratification, up or down vote?
Here is a good website with state by state breakdown
http://political-resource...
There are others also but this is good.
Bill Benson's site
http://www.thelawthatneve...
I do
Actually I have found one. I don't have it right in front of me and I am about to leave my office, but I will try to post in when I get home in the next hour or so.
The 16th Amendment was never ratified.
At least not legally. They discuss it in "Freedom to Fascism."
Nor was the 13th,14th or 15th
In order to have these "ratified", some states were not allowed to vote on them, because they wouldn't vote yes, when the remaining states "ratified" them, then the ones that were not allowed to vote, were then readmitted to the country. Also New Jersey and one or two other changed their votes, I think on the 13th, but were never acknowledged as being changed.
Thank you Dr. Paul for making me act on what I already knew was right.
But, regardless of the
But, regardless of the circumstances of its ratification, why can't we eliminate the graduated Income Tax with simple legislation?
Bush and the Congress didn't draft a Twenty-Eighth Amendment to overturn the Fourth Amendment. They just nullified it with the Patiot Act.
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It could be legislatively eliminated. Even if one accepts the
existence of the 16th Amendment as valid, it only presumes to give Congress an authority. It does not mandate that the authority must be exercised. In the same way that Congress has the right to declare war, there is no Constitutional compulsion for it to do so.
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"An economy built on fiat money is a society on its way to ashes."
I gather you've read "The Cat In The Bag" ?
by Eugene May.
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