Ben Stein's CBS Sunday Morning Commentary + Some Stuff Anonymous Wrote: Should Americans Be Ashamed for Believing in God?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iC-9s8aR_MI

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Ron Paul Supporter Since 1997
`Wise people, even though all laws were abolished, would still lead the same life'- Aristophanes -

Don't hold him up as any kind of example for Christians.

-jcr

Now is the time for us all to embrace our own faith to pray and work for peace and freedom for our country. Though we all have different beliefs and paths, we share the common experience of horror at what our country has become. So, for once, I have to agree with Ben Stein. If all of our energy was focused on caring and doing for each other, then talking about God, regardless of his name, would not serve to separate us further.

I do not, however, agree with bringing religion into the school or government. There are other, better, ways to teach our children to love. Our schools and government already have too much to say about our lives without bringing religious arguments into the mix. We all know how a discussion gets when religion and God come into it. Imagine the chaos within government, divided not only by left and right, but now christian, pagan, muslim etc. No, we are already becoming a nanny state. If it continues in this direction, eventually, the only thing left to mandate will be our beliefs.

I believe that government and schools are places of work, not worship or faith. We all carry our faith with us in all that we do, whether we're atheist, pagan, christian etc. Hopefully, we all live our faith as well. So, if you are living it, then it can't be disallowed in school or government. But, when at work there is work to do and we should not be worshipping or discussing our faith at a place of business. Just my opinion.

Blessings )o(

did not come to starta religion. True religion in God's sight is taking care of widows and orphans in their distress. Also, can you also love your enemies as well without God? Do you really love your neighbor as yourself????

When I get to face death, which we are all goig to, I want to be sure I am right with God, the creator of Heaven and Earth. That is more important than anything else. There is alot of bravado on here, but picture in your minds eye about being on your death bed for a moment, getting ready to exit this world. Everyone here(in the world) has broken the Ten Commandments. God knows what is in our hearts. The Bible talks about two types of children: 1. The children of God 2. The children of wrath.Those are the only two categories that humans fall in... where are you today? You will die one day...no doubt..... God is going to punish all sin, sin cannot be in the presence of God. But God sent Jesus, who knew no sin, to BECOME sin for us!!! GOd placed our sin on Christ, and God poured out His wrath of sin on Jesus Christ, so we wouldn't have to face the punishment... Now that is something to be Thankful about!!!! It get's better, not only is our sin paid for, but Jesus gives us HIS righteousness!!! He obeyed God fully , and when you believe in Christ that righteousness is given to you as well! Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to ALL who believe.... There is something more important than politics people, and that is your soul. Jesus said " What does it matter if you gain the whole world, but lose your soul???? God loves us, and has given us a chance. You want to know if God is Love? Look at the cross, there is Love.... God Bless Let's be Thankful today!

Ben Stein's fairytails can be traced back in time to the use of magic mushrooms. Just google Moses and mushrooms and take a tour of this great religion based on hallucinations from a spaced out trip. I converted from MANNA FROM HEAVEN to reality.
With out a God I can love, hope and treat my fellow man just the same as any one with a religion. Without this neurotic condition called religion I am able to appreciate each day much more without being under a microscope as well a judgment from the pulpit.

Ben Stein was talking down to Ron Pauls economic adviser Peter Schiff about 2 years ago on some MSM talk show. Ben Stein is nothing more than a talking head for the Neocrats.

The USA has kicked GOD out! This nation is losing God's protection. Approximately 50 Million abortions have been performed in this nation. That's child sacrifice. This is from the National Right to Life's own website:

http://www.nrlc.org/ABORTION/facts/abortionstats.html

The judgment is set.

We are taught evolution.. They teach us that we came from monkeys and they wonder why people act like monkeys. The truth is that we are created beings and we will be judged for our actions. Ben Stein raises some very good points and his movie Expelled was very good.

Fortune Favors the Bold

Richard Nixon's speech writer.

I couldn't read this. Stein can take a flying leap.

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“I don't feel threatened …. by those beautiful lit up, bejeweled trees, Christmas trees.”
I agree.

“It doesn't bother me a bit when people say, 'Merry Christmas’ ”
I agree, usually. There are the throw it in your face types but they are a minute bunch.

“manger scene on display at a key intersection”
As long as it’s on private property, not obstructing the traffic/view. But if you want my tax dollars to pay for it then we have a problem.

“people who believe in God are sick and tired of getting pushed around”
They're tired of not getting their way anymore.

“I don't like it (Atheism) being shoved down my throat”
Look on the back of your money. Separation of church and state?

“worship celebrities and we aren't allowed to worship God”
Hhmmm not allowed to worship God, where did you say you lived?

The part with Billy Graham's daughter is just crazy talk and I won’t justify it with a response.

“you better not read the Bible in school”
that is pure bs. You can’t read it out loud and disrupt the math class. But yeah after your done with your math work and the teacher is done talking/teaching then fine read it or hightimes or guns & ammo or whatever you want.

that’s as far as I read.

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Ron Paul Supporter Since 1997

“We have allowed our nation to be over taxed and over regulated and overrun by bureaucrats, the founders would be ashamed of us for what we're putting up with” Ron Paul

Fortune Favors the Bold

Or Holy Father in Heaven, or fathers, or morthers, or spaghettti monsters or whatver, could you please use your divine powers to stop these enraging posts that lead to flame wars on the DP?

Thanks

Amen

that Ben Stein did not write the second part of this article. Snopes.com corroborates it as a falsehood, and I think it should be removed from this thread as it has resulted in "comments" which are little more than people making arguments to preserve their own particular belief system. (heaven forbid we should be challenged to think, which is what I believe Sygnus was shooting for!)

"It is unfortunate that we've been given so much potential yet most of us are too afraid to shine in front of others".
Amen to that! There is a wonderful quote from Nelson Mandela that says, in essence, "it is not failure that we are afraid of, it is that we fear we are powerful beyond belief". We are terrified of contemplating that possibility.

THE TOOTH FAIRY. Believe in what ever you want!

Half of the article wasn't even written by Stein and contains distortions and half-truths.

Perhaps it goes to show how much we draw conclusions about things without even knowing the full story or where it came from. This is our precious reality. This is our situation.

See how incredibly limited we are? Why do we insist on our own viewpoints and opinions so much when we can clearly see that our understanding of what's going on around us grossly limited?

We are at the whim and mercy of a higher power, the breath. Can you intellectually decide when you will stop breathing? Humbling isn't it?

God is breathing for you all the time and you don't even have to make any effort. God is Love, giving all and asking for nothing in return...

It's like you make a couple of really goofy movies and all the sudden you are majically transformed into the philosoper king and financial expert as well (good luck on the "buy boatloads of Merill Lynch stock" advice btw).

I could give a shit less what Ben-Ein-Stein thinks.

I love how the religious right continues this fallicious propaganda about Holiday tradition. Much less, how the US, the most religious nation on earth minus Turkey, has become an atheist nation. Very funny, indeed.

The fallacy begins when he makes the gigantic leap that Christmas Trees have been made illegal or are the subject of outcries of hate. I have never seen it, heard about it, or even thought that was possible. Yes, there are restrictions in public schools - and rightly so in my opinion. A teacher or administration should not single out their favorite religion. And, municipalities have been restricted from using public funds for religious displays unless they incorporate all religions. I think that is morally justified as well. BUT - to claim that it is pervasive in all of society, public and private, small town or large city is preposterous. My city is full of "Christmas" trees and they are pretty - no one is picketing the business sectors and burning wreaths in effigy that I know of.

Fallacy #2: "I don't think Christians like getting pushed around for being Christians" -- YES, every Christian church has apparently been burned to the ground by those violent agnostics! Run for the hills!! In fact, I push every Christian I know into a black van and drive them to hold in a vault in the Rockies. That'll teach them! Please.... And if a Born-Again Right Wing group responsible for maintaining the Neocon power in the government feels like their control is slipping - Boo Hoo. That's not being pushed around - THAT is "reaping what you sow"

Actually, I stand corrected, I forgot - Gay people still exist. I guess if Christians wouldn't be pushed around so much by the idea of Constitutional rights and liberties we could get rid of them the Biblical way. Then, maybe God wouldn't sit back and watch all those people in New Orleans die because he is busy pouting.

The War on Christmas - As real as the War on Poverty

The USA has kicked GOD out! This nation is losing God's protection. Over 50 million abortions have happened in this nation. That's child sacrifice. Now we have homosexuals taking over our nation. Teen pregnancy is more than ever. Sexually transmitted diseases are spreading like wild fire. No more prayer in school.

We are taught evolution (that we are an accident). They teach us that we came from monkeys and they wonder why people act like monkeys. The truth is that we are created beings and we will be judged for our actions. Ben Stein raises some very good points and his movie Expelled was very good.

Ever read the miracle that happened to George Washington. They have removed this part from the text books. He was shot multiple times and even had 4 bullet holes in his shirt, but he never died. As a matter of fact, the bullets never penetrated his skin. It was God's protection:

http://www.garymcleod.org/bullet.htm