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Black Friday at church!

Just saw it on Headline News...people ditching the malls and spending time at their churches instead! What a great idea!

Hopefully, other churches will latch onto this idea and it will grow.

Like the pastor the interviewed said, they are not 'anti-shopping', they want instead to reintroduce the meaning of Christmas back into the season.

I'm surprised HeadlineNews (CNN) put it on the air! Right after it was the story of the trampling and another shooting at a different mall. I hate the MSM and I know they have an agenda so it makes me wonder why they would allow this out.

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Weird! CNN hates God

Makes me wonder if they havent turned the 30,000 hired brainwashers (clergy) up a notch, for an extra day of conditioning.

Unrest will remain as long as people ignore God…

That's for sure! I cannot stress that enough.

--Cliff, Sioux City, Iowa
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Key to happiness: Stay happy. Shhh!



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lastamericanstanding...excellent post..

you post something about Christianity and here they come...divide and conquer...you know the NWO is setting up a one world religion...false prophet... and the folks that are attacking Christianity are going to be the ones lock stepping...remember the scripture about strong delusions...?
i understand some don't believe...but why try to start an argument...? Make any sense to you..? This is the reason we can't get he patriotic movement glued together and stand as one voice...someone has got to attack someone over something because of what they believe...and Christianity seems to be the big target...i may not agree with all the things that are posted but i don't attack....unless it is my faith being attacked....and seems no one can answer the question...why do you attack like that..? Doesn't matter what you post about Christianity, someone is going to attack you. WHY..?????????????????

Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master... George Washington

Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master... George Washington

Nice to see religion being used to divide again.

Religion doesn't divide people... people divide people and used religion as a convenient tool.

Look, if you don't believe, fine. Go to the mall and have a blast. Trample mall workers, shoot one another over the last Barbie or Xbox.... Your 'Meaning of Christmas' does not interest me. if mine does not interest you, so be it. The need of some people to degrade and attack others on the basis of religion is TRULY the work of NWO mentality: divide and conquer. Make everyone, everyone else's enemy. Create boogy men and ghosts.

Congratulations boys and girls, they've already won you over. At least we see who you are.

I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...

I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...

That's great, except, the

That's great, except, the people don't realize they are standing in a 501c3 corporation and not the Church.

Zzzzz...

I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...

I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...

zzzzz....with all your NWO talk....sheesh!

It is Yahweh who is in control.....NOT THE

NWO
Illuminatti
CFR
Russians
Iraqi's
The Bush's
The Obama's
The Europeans
The International Bankers....

Get that straight??

USAToday just put up article online stating that the Paul campaign has just sent out e-mail that 4th quarter projections have passed 12 million.......

The word is getting out!!!

Zzzzz...

I didn't go to the mall and I won't attend a 501c3 corporation that is created and controlled by the State.

http://hushmoney.org/

Good for you. You've done all of NOTHING then...

As is your right.

I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...

I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...

Quite on the contrary, I am

Quite on the contrary, I am doing as God commands in the Bible. You should take the time to enlighten yourself about what a 501c3 is and who creates it. I can't help it if you prefer to remain ignorant though.

If you care to learn more, visit: http://hushmoney.org/501c3-myths.htm

I understand that the church needs to register as a 501c3

organization to receive gov't recognition as tax exempt. Beyond that, the gov't does not write their sermons or dictate their message.

That sort of thinking tell me that you are also churchless. So, you don't shop nor do you go to church. What do you do?

I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...

I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...

If you knew the law, you

If you knew the law, you would know that the IRS code, itself, states that churches do not need to file as a 501c3 and that the IRS can revoke the churches tax-exempt status, as well, as sieze it's assetts for violating it's contract. Anyone who has read the Bible knows the importance of contracts. So, any church that does file it, is either doing it out of ignorance or isn't carrying out the will of God.

According to IRS Code § 508(c)(1)(A):
Special rules with respect to section 501(c)(3) organizations.
(a) New organizations must notify secretary that they are applying for recognition of section 501(c)(3) status.
(c) Exceptions.
(1) Mandatory exceptions. Subsections (a) and (b) shall not apply to --
(A) churches, their integrated auxiliaries, and conventions or associations of churches.

Churches are already exempt!

But, go on, you can judge me all you want LastChristianStanding!

But, also take the time to learn the Law!!

Hey Good Job! Even I knew that

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Know the law? Are you claiming to be a lawyer?

Or are you claiming that you know the law without ever attending law school? You sound like you've read enough to become aware there are glaring holes in the law. That does not mean you 'know the law'.

I don't claim to 'know the law'. You shouldn't either.

I know as an American citizen, I am not required to pay taxes. Yet I do.

Knowing the law and being ready to spend the rest of you days in jail or court trying vainly to prove you are right and they are wrong are two different things.

I'm sure I could do my job everyday without incorporating. I'm certain nothing would happen if I didn't carry insurance for my company.... I'd certainly pocket a lot more money. I'm positive I could not register my van as commercial and still use it for business like all the other scab contractors out there.

All it takes is one slip. One lawsuit will wipe you out and take everything you've worked for. Churches are no different.

One quote from one priest doesn't change my mind. Go ask your priest or pastor or rabbi if they are being silenced by the fact they have a 501c3 status.... oh, I forgot. You don't have a pastor or priest or rabbi because you're protesting the government. I guess that makes you the winner.

And I'm not judging you. If you feel judged, it is on your end.

I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...

I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...

What is the Law? Who says

What is the Law? Who says you have to attend law school to know it? And, who are you to so presumtously proclaim to know whether I have or haven't attended law school?

The Holy Bible is quite explicit in it's admonishment of us to know the Law and apply it.

§ 508. Special rules with respect to section 501 (c)(3) organizations
(a) New organizations must notify Secretary that they are applying for recognition of section 501 (c)(3) status
Except as provided in subsection (c), an organization organized after October 9, 1969, shall not be treated as an organization described in section 501 (c)(3)—
(1) unless it has given notice to the Secretary in such manner as the Secretary may by regulations prescribe, that it is applying for recognition of such status, or
(2) for any period before the giving of such notice, if such notice is given after the time prescribed by the Secretary by regulations for giving notice under this subsection.
(b) Presumption that organizations are private foundations
Except as provided in subsection (c), any organization (including an organization in existence on October 9, 1969) which is described in section 501 (c)(3) and which does not notify the Secretary, at such time and in such manner as the Secretary may by regulations prescribe, that it is not a private foundation shall be presumed to be a private foundation.
(c) Exceptions
(1) Mandatory exceptions
Subsections (a) and (b) shall not apply to—
(A) churches, their integrated auxiliaries, and conventions or associations of churches, or
(B) any organization which is not a private foundation (as defined in section 509 (a)) and the gross receipts of which in each taxable year are normally not more than $5,000.
(2) Exceptions by regulations
The Secretary may by regulations exempt (to the extent and subject to such conditions as may be prescribed in such regulations) from the provisions of subsection (a) or (b) or both—
(A) educational organizations described in section 170 (b)(1)(A)(ii), and
(B) any other class of organizations with respect to which the Secretary determines that full compliance with the provisions of subsections (a) and (b) is not necessary to the efficient administration of the provisions of this title relating to private foundations.
(d) Disallowance of certain charitable, etc., deductions
(1) Gift or bequest to organizations subject to section 507 (c) tax
No gift or bequest made to an organization upon which the tax provided by section 507 (c) has been imposed shall be allowed as a deduction under section 170, 545 (b)(2), 642 (c), 2055, 2106 (a)(2), or 2522, if such gift or bequest is made—
(A) by any person after notification is made under section 507 (a), or
(B) by a substantial contributor (as defined in section 507 (d)(2)) in his taxable year which includes the first day on which action is taken by such organization which culminates in the imposition of tax under section 507 (c) and any subsequent taxable year.
(2) Gift or bequest to taxable private foundation, section 4947 trust, etc.
No gift or bequest made to an organization shall be allowed as a deduction under section 170, 545 (b)(2), 642 (c), 2055, 2106 (a)(2), or 2522, if such gift or bequest is made—
(A) to a private foundation or a trust described in section 4947 in a taxable year for which it fails to meet the requirements of subsection (e) (determined without regard to subsection (e)(2)), or
(B) to any organization in a period for which it is not treated as an organization described in section 501 (c)(3) by reason of subsection (a).
(3) Exception
Paragraph (1) shall not apply if the entire amount of the unpaid portion of the tax imposed by section 507 (c) is abated by the Secretary under section 507 (g).
(e) Governing instruments
(1) General rule
A private foundation shall not be exempt from taxation under section 501 (a) unless its governing instrument includes provisions the effects of which are—
(A) to require its income for each taxable year to be distributed at such time and in such manner as not to subject the foundation to tax under section 4942, and
(B) to prohibit the foundation from engaging in any act of self-dealing (as defined in section 4941 (d)), from retaining any excess business holdings (as defined in section 4943 (c)), from making any investments in such manner as to subject the foundation to tax under section 4944, and from making any taxable expenditures (as defined in section 4945 (d)).
(2) Special rules for existing private foundations
In the case of any organization organized before January 1, 1970, paragraph (1) shall not apply—
(A) to any period after December 31, 1971, during the pendency of any judicial proceeding begun before January 1, 1972, by the private foundation which is necessary to reform, or to excuse such foundation from compliance with, its governing instrument or any other instrument in order to meet the requirements of paragraph (1), and
(B) to any period after the termination of any judicial proceeding described in subparagraph (A) during which its governing instrument or any other instrument does not permit it to meet the requirements of paragraph (1).
(f) Additional provisions relating to sponsoring organizations
A sponsoring organization (as defined in section 4966 (d)(1)) shall give notice to the Secretary (in such manner as the Secretary may provide) whether such organization maintains or intends to maintain donor advised funds (as defined in section 4966 (d)(2)) and the manner in which such organization plans to operate such funds.

So now you know this much.

And, to get back to your original post, I am glad to hear that people were chosing to save some money...I am sure the 501c3s were, as well.

I can cut and paste too, yet I don't.

What is the law? This discussion is going nowhere and yet, teaching nothing.

Goodnight.

I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...

I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...

I just figured since you

I just figured since you appeared uncertain as to what the code said, I would bring it to you.

And, I beg to differ that it is teaching nothing. I am sure there are many here that have never read that portion of the IRS code, or any other portion for that matter.

Goodnight to you as well.

I for one

thank you for this thread. "Black Friday" is so named because it was traditionally the first day all year when retail stores began operating "in the black". In other words, from this day til the end of the year was profit. Since Christmas shopping makes up 30-40% of sales, it makes sense to offer incentives for people to spend heavily on Christmas shopping. In these later days, I find that it is more important to retailers to eliminate Christ than to make sales, so they have emphasized "Holidays" and ignored Christmas. This year, however, you'll hear a lot more about Christmas, because the Christians have finally made a point of taking their business to those who respect them. Retailers this year will reject Christmas to their own detriment. I am glad that so many people have opened the Christmas season with an acknowledgment of Christ.

dear pearl- the acknowledgment of Christ

i am not attacking your belief. i am merely pointing out that as in the example below, how could there be SO many different thughts even on one word alone and you consider yourself correct and others incorrect?

Christ
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This article is about the Christian theological role. For other uses, see Christ (disambiguation).

Icon of Christ in a Greek Orthodox churchChrist is the English term for the Greek Χριστός (Khristós) meaning "the anointed".[1] In the 3rd- to 1st-centuries BCE, the Tanakh (what Christians would in later centuries come to call the Old Testament) was translated into a Greek version called the Septuagint, in which Khristós was used to translate the Hebrew מָשִׁיחַ (Mašíaḥ,) (Messiah), meaning "[one who is] anointed."[2] Many modern Christians[who?] explicitly describe Christ as both fully human and fully God, while the Jewish tradition understands the Messiah as a human being without any overtone of deity or divinity.[3]

Followers of Jesus became known as Christians because they believed that Jesus is the Messiah, or Christ. Jews reject this claim and are still waiting for the messiah to come (see Jewish Messiah).

The area of Christian theology focusing on the nature of Jesus as the Christ, particularly with how the divine and human are related in his person, is known as Christology.

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[edit] Etymology
Further information: Chrism and Christian (word)
The spelling Christ in English was standardized in the 17th century, when, in the spirit of the Enlightenment, spellings of certain words were changed to fit their Greek or Latin origins. Prior to this, in Old and Middle English, the word was usually spelled Crist, the i being pronounced either as /iː/ (see Help:pronunciation), preserved in the names of churches such as St Katherine Cree, or as a short /ɪ/, preserved in the modern pronunciation of Christmas). The spelling "Christ" is attested from the 14th century.[4]

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The term Christ (or similar) appears in English and most European languages, owing to the Greek usage of Khristós (transcribed in Latin as Christus) in the New Testament as a description for Jesus. In the Septuagint version of the Hebrew Bible, it was used to translate into Greek the Hebrew mashiach (messiah), meaning "[one who is] anointed". [2]

Jesus Christ as believed by his followers is the living son of God and will return to judge mankind one day.

Khristós in classical Greek usage could mean covered in oil, and is thus a literal translation of messiah. The Greek term is thought to derive from the Proto-Indo-European root of *ghrei- ("to rub"), which in Germanic languages, such as English, mutated into gris- and grim-. Hence the English words grisly, grim, grime, and grease, are thought to be cognate with Christ, though these terms came to have a negative connotation, where the Greek word had a positive connotation. In French the Greek term mutated first to creŝme and then to crème, due to the loss of certain 's' usages in French, which was loaned into English as cream. Indian ghee, from Sanskrit ghṛtə घृत ("sprinkled") is another obvious cognate, and indeed, has a sacred role in Vedic and modern Hindu libation and anointment rituals.

[edit] Christian views
Some may refer to "Jesus" when emphasizing his human nature in an event in the New Testament, and refer to "Christ" in discussing his divine nature.[who?]

After 1215 it was official doctrine that the words and gestures of the priest "transubstantiated" or transformed the bread and wine into Christ's body and blood, thought they retained the outward appearance of bread and wine. [5]

[edit] In the New Testament
See also: Jesus and New Testament view on Jesus' life
In the New Testament it says that the Messiah, long awaited, had come and describes this savior as the Christ (Greek Genitive: τοῦ Χριστοῦ, toú Christoú,; Nominative: ὁ Χριστὸς, ho Christós). The apostle Peter, in what has become a famous proclamation of faith among Christians since the first century, said, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God" (Matthew 16:16).

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In the theology of Christian Science, Mary Baker Eddy, the religion's founder, wrote in her book, Science and Health with Key to the Scriptures, that:

"The invisible Christ was imperceptible to the so-called personal senses, whereas Jesus appeared as a bodily existence. This dual personality of the unseen and the seen, the spiritual and material, the eternal Christ and the corporeal Jesus manifest in flesh, continued until the Master's ascension, when the human, material concept, or Jesus, disappeared, while the spiritual self, or Christ, continues to exist in the eternal order of divine Science, taking away the sins of the world, as the Christ has always done, even before the human Jesus was incarnate to mortal eyes."[6]

Eddy wrote that while Jesus, as a material man, was not the exact ontological or quantitative equivalent to God, he thoroughly embodied the spiritual sonship of God's nature. In Christian Science, the Christ, or divine manifestation of God, continues forever to enlighten humanity and to destroy sickness, sin, and death.

[edit] Esoteric Christian views
See also Second Coming and Esoteric Christianity

[edit] Rosicrucian
For the Rosicrucians there is a distinction to be made between Jesus and the Christ.[7] Jesus is considered a high Initiate of the human life wave (which evolves under the cycle of rebirth) and of a singularly pure type of mind, vastly superior to the great majority of the present humanity.

They believe he was educated during his youth among the Essenes and thus prepared himself for the greatest honor ever bestowed upon a human being: to deliver his pure, passionless, highly evolved physical body and vital body (already attuned to the high vibrations of the 'Life Spirit'), in the moment of the Baptism, to the Christ being for his ministry in the physical world. At the cruxifixion the Christ was released from the bodies of Jesus and entered into the Earth.[8] Christ is described as the highest spiritual being of the life wave called Archangels, having completed his union ("the Son") with the second aspect of God: Wisdom (Christ the Logos); and this great Archangel still is, according to these esoteric Christian teachings, the indwelling Spirit of the Earth: the Regent of the Earth.[9]

[edit] Gnostic
See also: Sophia (wisdom) and New Thought
The gnostics generally believed not in a Jesus who was a divine person with a human form, but in a spiritual christ who dwelt in Jesus. Through the spiritual path of gnosticism, followers of these schools believed that they could experience the same knowledge, or gnosis. Gnosticism, a non-hierarchical interpretation of the Christian message, was declared heresy by the formal, hierarchical Christian church at the first Ecumenical Council, which occurred at Nicaea in 325 A.D., although condemnation of such beliefs were held by orthodox church leaders for some time.

Gnostic texts with Jesus Christ include the Gospel of Thomas, the Gospel of Mary, and many more which have been discovered throughout the centuries.

[edit] Creation Spirituality
In his book The Coming of the Cosmic Christ Matthew Fox wrote of "the Cosmic Christ."

[edit] Islamic view
Main article: Islamic view of Jesus
Muslims believe Jesus (Isa or عيسى) to be the Messiah (Massih) and a prophet. Although they believe in the Virgin Birth, they do not consider Jesus to be "the son of God". Jesus was neither crucified nor dead, but was raised to Heaven by God while still living.

Islamic traditions narrate that he will return to earth near the day of judgement to restore justice and defeat al-Masīḥ ad-Dajjāl (lit. "the false messiah", also known as the Antichrist) and the enemies of Islam.[10]

[edit] Hindu View
In Hinduism, God is often described by both personifications (deities), which are manifestations of particular aspects of God's power, and incarnations (avatars) of God in mortal form, as in case of Shiva or Vishnu. In these religions "the christ" is akin to these personifications. A.C Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, who coined the phrase 'Krsna Consciousness', held Jesus' teachings as non-different from the Hindu, Vedic scriptures, and others such as Paramahansa Yogananda often wrote about a "Christ Consciousness" interchangeably with "Krsna Consciousness
~peace

~peace

What on earth is all that about?

Did you think anyone would read that? or are you trying to bury this thread? I consider that to be nothing but rude and disrespectful. I can see you are confused, but don't put words in my mouth. I never said I am right, only God.

the meaning of christmas???

Oh yeah that is a great idea!!!

Where is 'christmas' ever mentioned in the Scriptures?

Where does it ever say that we are to celebrate the Lord's birth?

Where does it say that Jesus was born on Dec. 25th??

ANSWER ......NO WHERE!!!

Why?? Because all of this man-made holiday was originated in paganism....the worship of the sun god.....

As christians we are called to not mix the Holy with the profane....this MIXTURE is what christmas is all about.

Instead of celebrating the holidays why not celebrate the HOLY DAYS....(The Lord's feasts...Passover, Pentecost, Tabernacles) these are BIBLICAL ......

USAToday just put up article online stating that the Paul campaign has just sent out e-mail that 4th quarter projections have passed 12 million.......

The word is getting out!!!

Jesus celebrated Hanukkah.

Merry Christmas, heartforwisdom.

Yep He sure did....

but once again most 'christians' have never heard that....

USAToday just put up article online stating that the Paul campaign has just sent out e-mail that 4th quarter projections have passed 12 million.......

The word is getting out!!!

Zzzzzzzz....

Go have fun at the mall....

I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...

I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...

LOL

!

Are you Jewish?

The early Church established traditions which, with Scripture, were equally binding on the faithful(2TH 2:15). When Christ charged Peter with the leadership of the Church, he was given authority to establish Her rites and traditions. However, reason should inform us that, if the only source of truth were in the Bible, then for almost four hundred years there was no authority on the faith, as the Bible had not yet been compiled. Remember, too, that most people in ancient days could not read and all things were taught orally by the Church.
Bottom line, don't sweat the small stuff. The fact of Jesus birth is truly cause to celebrate and the message of Christmas is "Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace among men of good will."
Ignorance of Christianity and its foundations accounts for a great deal of disillusionment about the faith. If we seek the truth with love for God we will surely find it.

hey pearl- you and me agree!!!! on this...

you said..."Ignorance of Christianity and its foundations accounts for a great deal of disillusionment about the faith." and i couldn't agree more!! wow, i knew there was something we would find in common!! but then you said..."If we seek the truth with love for God we will surely find it." well, God IS love and the truth is "it" is not something you must find, rather, listening to your own heart will supply any and all answers that you need. you were born with everything you need. That is how wonderful you and each and every human is. its like the JC Penney commercial... "ITS ALL INSIDE"

~peace

~peace

Don't sweat the small stuff???

Well, you see that is the difference between you and me Pearl....for I take the Word very seriously and I don't follow the traditions of man but only what Scripture states...

Jeremiah 10: 2-4 states that.....

"Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.

For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.

They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not. "

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Where do you suppose the tradition of the christmas tree came from?
From the pagans.
This 'tradtition' that you so fondly love is one that Yahweh says not to have anything to do with.

This is why the 'church' never grows up.....b/c it is always focused on the Lord's infancy instead of His glorious KINGSHIP....

No thanks, I will have none of the babylonian customs of 'christmas' nor 'easter'.....all of which are from pagan customs.....but instead I will celebrate what is found in the BIBLE and that are those of the HOLY DAYS......the FEASTS OF THE LORD (Passover, Pentecost, Tabernacles).

If you really want to know when Jesus was born it was during the Feast of Tabernacles.

USAToday just put up article online stating that the Paul campaign has just sent out e-mail that 4th quarter projections have passed 12 million.......

The word is getting out!!!

Black Friday is the same as

Black Friday is the same as Christmas?
................
Truther?
No, sir!

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"The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic..." —Alan Moore

What we've come to expect from a Ventura supporter.

An almost troll-like response, don't you think?

Trying to fan the flames of controversy? Lonely?

I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...

I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...

Apparently

since they are both associated with "shopping" and "spending money".
Don't many people do their "Christmas" shopping on Black Friday??

cnn allowed this because

the meaning of christmas is a sham which i choose not to take part in.

just wait till everyone finds out that jesus wasn't born in a stable-HA!!

~peace

~peace

We already found that out. Guess what?? Nothing happened...

Do you really think different translations are going to effect the impact of Christianity on the world? Are you a child?

So it wasn't a manger?? Oh my God.... let's do away with this Christianity stuff!

You need to get back to your root and find out where this hostility towards other humans, not religion, is coming from.

Till then, you'll be no use to anyone.

I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...

I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...

whats with all of this manger stuff? i said stable people

~peace

~peace

We heard...we said it didn't matter.

I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...

I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...

Have fun at the mall...

We won't miss you.

I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...

I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...

What a loser

you must be. You are probably just to cheap and lazy to buy Christmas gifts. I'm sure "everyone will find out" someday that they should have listened to you instead of the Bible and the word of God. You sound soooo intelligent.

While Jesus was laid in a

While Jesus was laid in a manger, he wasn't born in December.

what a labeler!!

i don't want anyone to listen to me, i want peace! the way to peace is for people to listen to the truth which they find in themselves. IMO- the Bible is not the word of God, but the words of men. intelligence is overrated. thinking and feeling are two seperate ways to understand something. thank you for venting your frustration! at least you won't get some kind of dis-ease with pent up emotions which come from thoughts triggered by learned belief. the question is, who do you believe? yourself, or the words of someone you have been taught to believe knows the truth?
it is a beautiful day!!

~peace

~peace

It's good you don't want anyone to listen to you, but

it would seem you are venting an awful lot, yourself, for someone who doesn't want to be heard. And your opinion is much more reliable than the inspired words of saints throughout the centuries and God Himself.