20,000 Troops Coming to Patrol the Streets of the U.S.
From the Washington Post:
The U.S. military expects to have 20,000 uniformed troops inside the United States by 2011 trained to help state and local officials respond to a nuclear terrorist attack or other domestic catastrophe, according to Pentagon officials.
The long-planned shift in the Defense Department's role in homeland security was recently backed with funding and troop commitments after years of prodding by Congress and outside experts, defense analysts said.
There are critics of the change, in the military and among civil liberties groups and libertarians who express concern that the new homeland emphasis threatens to strain the military and possibly undermine the Posse Comitatus Act, a 130-year-old federal law restricting the military's role in domestic law enforcement.
But the Bush administration and some in Congress have pushed for a heightened homeland military role since the middle of this decade, saying the greatest domestic threat is terrorists exploiting the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction.
Before the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, dedicating 20,000 troops to domestic response -- a nearly sevenfold increase in five years -- "would have been extraordinary to the point of unbelievable," Paul McHale, assistant defense secretary for homeland defense, said in remarks last month at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. But the realization that civilian authorities may be overwhelmed in a catastrophe prompted "a fundamental change in military culture," he said.
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Don't forget
Most of these will be combat troops.
Could this have something to
Could this have something to do with the Russians stationed in the Caribbean? And then there could be a false flag attack saying that the Russians attacked us and then all hell breaks loose? Unfortunately, I predicted small regional conflicts (in each continent) and this would lead to one major event (possible war) that would take us down the road of hell.
100,000
They could have 100,000 stationed here. If it gets even slightly out of hand that's what the Second Amendment is for. Always remember there are far more of us than there are of them, United we stand, divided we fall. A law is only a law if someone obeys it
If something evil does come out of this remember the group of guys who ran down to the bridge to confront the Redcoats with their RIFLES and started this country on it's way, they had enough too. The constitution let's you know it's your duty to confront a tyrannical government.
That's when it's time to use the spine you were born with,,,,
Whose troops?
It says that the U.S. military...expects to have...20,000 uniformed troops.
It doesn't say the 20K troops are U.S. military troops. It just says that our military expects 20K troops in the U.S.
Later in the article (which is worth reading in its entirety), it also says this:
How handy; they'll be ready to respond, just in case something like a radiological or biological attack happens. *Whew* I feel safer, now!
...wait...what does "respond" mean?...
BUMP BUMP BUMP
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Hopefully they go directly to Washington and CLEAN HOUSE!!!
I'm guessing not....
Nope... can't happen here.
Your paranoid...
Not in my lifetime...
This is conspiracy talk...
Even if it were true, we need them to keep us safe... Al Queda is everywhere.
What do you want the terrorist to win?
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Thank you comrade...
There's no need for outrageous "conspiracy theories". The government loves us and would never, ever, harm us.
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Exactly....
...what I was thinking. As were many others of course. :)
All energy seeks balance. Be careful to let it do so... It will be better once it has arrived.
Except...
"many others" believe it!!!
Rofl
Thx for that.
Help!
I've never figured out what ROFL means! Is it something you can share in "polite company", i.e., not get deleted from this site? ;)
ROFL
It's taken me a while to learn some of these e-cronyms too. ROFL means "roll on the floor laughing." Sometimes if it's really really funny, you will see three more letters: ROFLMAO for "roll on the floor laughing my a## off"
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lol
Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms - should be a convenience store, not a government agency! -- that rocks!
Still ROTFLMAO
All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent. Thomas Jefferson
roll on the floor laughing
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rofl =
rolling on floor laughing
Texas Responds
Texas Militia Field Exercise & Meeting Saturday December 20th
We are having a Texas Militia Field Training Exercise and meeting Saturday December 20th at 8am on private land in the Teague, TX area. We will be camping out there that Saturday night and continuing the FTX Sunday morning but you can go home Saturday night instead if you need to.
We will have live-fire.
Bring your rifle, pistol, web gear with full combat load (you need to be able to carry at least 6 loaded magazines on your web gear), Bring your camping gear also.
Training activities will include marksmanship, patrolling, and maneuvering.
Our goal is to increase militia combat readiness and to increase participation in all Texas Militia units.
All militia groups and fire teams that come to the FTX are to maintain their militia unit command structure.
can you please send more
can you please send more info to Foodnotbombs@charter.net or direct me to a link. Thanks
Do not give into evil, but proceed ever more boldly against it.
I sent it
also check the forum at http://www.dailypaul.com/...
Oh by the way....
I notice this article didn't talk much about the use of "non-lethal" weapons by these forces like the original ArmyTimes article.
http://www.armytimes.com/...
I guess the Wash Post would rather emphasize the humanitarian aspects of their mission.
And people might wonder why they would be using "crowd control" and "non-lethal" on Islamic terrorists.
The answer is, of course, that they wouldn't.
Those weapons and techniques are meant for us, the American civilian population.
But only if we get "out of hand".
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Get out of hand?
You mean, like speech, debate, loud angry dialog?
All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent. Thomas Jefferson
Lethal
Non-lethal is double speak for lethal. Tasers were once thought to be non-lethal. The United Nations has admitted they are torture devices.
http://www.cbsnews.com/st...
Tasers have killed between 300-400 people since there inception. Those are just the reported deaths. Rubber bullets can also be lethal according to Israeli security forces study.
http://www.highbeam.com/d...
When government says something is good for you or non-lethal...get your semi automatic and clips ready.
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It is useful if trying to help someone understand the link
9/11 = Afghan war + Iraq war + Homeland security = police state
Let me guess...
= Not good for us.
All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent. Thomas Jefferson
More precisely
9/11=Afghan war, Iraq war+ any future invasion deemed necessary + unlimited spending for Halliburten and Blackwater buddies + Homeland Security+ FEMA+Patriot Act +RealID +NAU= police state. You might as well include all of the achievements gained in the equation so full credit is given when due.
OK
Really not good for us.
All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent. Thomas Jefferson
I would suggest contacting your congressman
Which we should have done when Warner Act was being debated.
We should rise up on this one and I fear there aren't any of "us"left here at this site.
Rather than lamenting everything it would be best to take action here.
Telly everyone you know that this is wrong....they will agree....this would be progress.
We told Congress loud & clear to send Paulson packing
when the bail-out shenanigans began. It did little good.
Well said. Do not give into
Well said.
Do not give into evil, but proceed ever more boldly against it.
I see the government using
I see the government using the word "terrorist" in it's broadest sense.
Dissent
Protesters
Constitutionalists
Anyone that's anti-(this)government
Also with the control of media,they can promote their propaganda.
The next step is to use the military in a non terrorist threat way.
Roadblocks - use terrorist prevention propaganda
Door to door searches - use terrorist prevention propaganda
Confiscations/raids - use terrorist prevention propaganda
One could see that the people would be boxed in by government,the military,local law enforcement and the courts.This would happen slowly to not upset the masses and to have them conform easily.
Then again I'm making an extreme case here.
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Nothing to see here, move along now...
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Now that's
funny!!! :D
11:00 am central Drudge finally reporting
top of page in red.
PENTAGON TO DEPLOY 20,000 TROOPS INSIDE USA...
Domestic Security...
Passé Comitatus Act...
Thank you Dr. Paul for making me act on what I already knew was right.
Passé Comitatus Act...
Drudge sure called it with that coinage.
Lot of mileage
Boy, just can't believe the mileage the Bush Administration is getting out of 9-11.
I think the odometer is
I think the odometer is broken because this vehicle will be used forever.
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They know what is coming
Government may seem totally incompetent when it comes to protecting the interest of the average person (Katrina for example), but when it comes to their primary interest, themselves, they will spare no expense.
They know what is coming, I know what is coming, and so should you.
We are approaching 1776 or 1861. This is yet another sign to read which tells what road we are on. You generally smell the smoke before you see the fire.
The prediction of a crisis followed by nation threatening conflict is detailed in "The Fourth Turning." Their timetable for the conflict is 2020, but this is based on 80 to 90 year patterns and the violence could easily erupt anytime soon. The financial debacle created by the fraudulent, predatory debt based monetary system is just beginning. You might not be interested in doing anything now, but wait till you are unemployed with no prospect of a job anytime soon, your bank account and retirement funds is wiped out, and you are cold, hungry, and afraid to leave whatever shelter you have for fear of being robbed by fellow citizens in similar condition.
Add in the prospect that we are at the end of the industrial age for lack of energy to fuel it, and there is nothing but economic contraction in the future as far as one can look. Just face it; you young people drew the short straw when it comes to the date of your births.
When civil disorder (war, revolution???) comes nobody can avoid it and you will be forced to take sides. There is no hiding; no burying you head in the sand.
As much as I admire Ron Paul and those of us who value freedom highly, I think efforts to change the system peacefully are futile. The tide is more powerful than our ability to swim against it, and getting less than 5% of the voters agreeing with us should tell you how powerful the tide is.
I am not advocating civil war or revolution; I am observing where I think we are in history and I think hindsight will show me to be more or less accurate.
As Aimee Allen says, "WAKE UP!!!!"
I guess we have to wait more than two months and let the Washington Post prod us before we notice this assault on Posse Comitatus.
Excuse me for being a little miffed that my original post of September 30th didn't elicit a sticky or even much comment.
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I guess if we had been alive in 1776, Paul Revere would HAVE been shouting, "The British have come and GONE!!!!"
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For those who ignored the first deployment back in October...
..are you worried now?
These are active-duty, combat trained troops deployed on our soil.
These are not 'stationed state-side' troops.
Their deployment is within the united states. Start calling your useless representatives and have Posse Comitatus reinstated immediately. They won't listen but at least they'll know we're onto them.
I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...
VE MUZT PROTEXT ZE HOMELAND ZIVILIANS!
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"An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it. Truth stands, even if there be no public support. It is self sustained." -Mahatma Gandhi
Very reassuring
//start coincidence/domino/pancake theory
Army Brigade "Homeland" Tours don't exist but if they did, it would be a good thing. Nothing to worry about. Move along.
No need for "conspiracy theories" and so forth.
//end coincidence/domino/pancake theory
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"An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it. Truth stands, even if there be no public support. It is self sustained." -Mahatma Gandhi
We'll hear this in the main
We'll hear this in the main stream media when the Pentagon has sufficiently produced enough propaganda to justify it.
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Naomi!
How do you like it now, Ms. Wolf? Surely your man Barry will put an end to this. Right? Yeah, right.
Naomi is a traitor
and an ignorant wench.
Don't dump on Naomi
She's come AMAZINGLY far for a leftie. Now she's getting further "radicalized" by what her pick for president is doing.
We need support from as many as we can get. Naomi is very good at getting points across to those still stuck in the left-wing indoctrination. And her points are virtually identical to ours.
Let's not alienate her. Instead lets assist her enlightenment and the evolution of her ideas - and through her enlighten hundreds of thousands of others on the left.
I think...
she was put in this position (or allowed) to get the people fired up in a violent way so they have the excuse to come down on the people. She is a Rhode Scholar, in my opinion not to be trusted or at the very least watched carefully.
Did I miss something?
How is Naomi a traitor?
A lot of pro-liberty are pissed off at
her continued support of Barry.