We have our work cut out for us: Palin, Romney, Jindal lead for '12 in new Zogby scientific poll

Just another corporate fascist that has no interest in anything moral or responsible. The DNC/RNC suppress anything except big government and the military industrial complex. The last elections were a massive travesty in abuse of the first amendment. The media cartel blathered about religious leaders that should have lost their tax exempt status and propped up a class of corrupt FED printed politicians. The real issues are hidden. Where was the reporting on Condi's education from Allbright's father? How about the 500m Allbright hedge fund or the criminal actions of Rubin? How about the political use of the FBI to get Spitzer.. It never ceases to amaze me how Spitzer who exposed Grasso on 130m buy out package never got the attention of some sort of titillation story. Like the Waco/Oklahoma City story, or Congress subsidizing housing where we have carpenters making more than scientist. Where is the outrage in education where we train people to play with other people's money instead of creating and inventing? The politicians blamed the sub-prime Yea right! How about the politically connected criminals from the realtor's to the bankers and private equity firms that blew up debt without regard to income/cash flow.... The shame is we just have more of the same coming.. Major Neo-con's, New York FED guys....It seem that that if you question decency, small government, and freedom your are some sort of wacko... Yes it seems the Goebbels wave the flag imperialist don't see anything wrong with arming Georgia, invading a country by opposing anything Thomas Aquinas preached including universal truths on the nature of reality, humanity or consciousness including "just war". Sorry about the Ted Kaczynskii rant but PLEASE these pollsters issues that make the country focus on meaningless divisive issues are an insult to intelligence. So Zogby is pushing a corrupt Governor/tv reporter/air head/ a FED printed money for Bain, corrupt Governor/father car company bailout/airhead, and an unknown Governor....THIS IS SCIENTIFIC PLEASE! WE SHOULD ADD ZOGBY TO THE F*CK YOU FRANK CALL. I pray/hope/wish that we can leave it better for the future and stop the moral and financial bankruptcy imposed by usury, bad policies and intrusive warfare, welfare government .

Rudy Guliani was the republican odds on favorite 2 years ago.

Palin is so Dan Qualesque. After the turkey taping debacle, amongst other things, how can anyone take her seriously? Has anybody asked her to spell a simple word yet?

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Ron Paul is #ONE:)

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"Who will be the strongest republican leader by 2012?

Ron Paul with 854 votes.

The poll I saw listed Paris Hilton in a dead tie with Sarah Palin. It was a brain-dead tie, but a tie nonetheless. Coming up close behind was Anna Nicole Smith -- but she'd have to have someone stand in for her during the campaign.

Personally, I'm waiting for the results of the IQ tests to see if I can discern any difference.

So I ended up going with Ron Paul, of course, and apparently they thought my answer was Sarah Palin. They're both so similar, you know, as far as knowledge and comprehension on all political and economic matters, answering questions without going in complete nonsensical circles, brain capacity, voting record, etc.

But as Forrest Gump says, Stupid is as Stupid Does. There's a lot of that going around today, and in fact, it is encouraged.

The GOP never seems to learn does it?

water until 2012. There is a WHOLE lot of "stuff" that will happen between now and then. I wouldn't worry about it now...........

Your "conscience" is the measure of the honesty of your selfishness. ~Richard Bach

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"Palin has declined to say whether she is officially interested in seeking the 2012 GOP presidential nomination, but has left open the possibility. Palin's popularity among the party's base and firmly established name-recognition would likely mean instant top-tier status should she decide to throw her hat into the ring."

Ron Paul's IDEAS are still not receiving the respect and attention that they deserve.

If more people were aware of the these truths, I would'nt be nearly as concerned about the beauty contest; especially this early in the cycle.

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I wouldn't bother.

We tried the national thing. We failed badly.. I'm not really certain I want to try again.

Instead I'm trying the local thing. The Free State Project intends to "Break the Matrix" as it's said from the bottom up, not the top down in New Hampshire.

Find out more at http://freestateproject.o...

And you know... you can still do the national thing from New Hampshire and it is also where the first primaries for our favorite candidate will be in 2012.

The GOP is running around with it's hair on fire, just clinging onto any glimmer of hope out there. Naturally, they are going to look at Palin, Romney, and Jindal. The GOP is looking for a horse to run, any horse, just to make it look like the party is still unified and relevant.

What we need to be focused on is building the C4L into a lasting movement. Get involved, attend and support your local chapter. Get involved with a party, any party, and push for Liberty. Personally, I will take my lead from RP and stay involved in the Republican party. Here in Texas, the state convention had about 35% Ron Paul delegates. I think, with enough recruiting and a low 2010 midterm election/convention turnout, we could have 51% of the Texas delegates. At that point, the Texas Republican party is ours, we can vote out the party leadership that ignored us, and we can get some real work done.

All of the rest of the stuff you hear in the MSM is just noise. Ignore it.

..Does Palin have? Where did she get this money? Did she raise money during her VP campaign and has been able to keep it? Or are we implying that she will be able to raise lots of money? Clarify please.

It's thinking like this that will keep the Republican Party in the basement for the next 8 years. Palin? J.F.C.!
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We NEED to set up our very own R3VOLutionary PAC account and do a MONEY BOMB Now....

We NEED to set it up so it becomes a huge amount of money, far more than what Palin or Romney has.

That will make our R3VOLution a presidential race issue in the Media, the Main Stream Media. (MSN)

The MSM will take note of this large pool of money and continually ask,
"Who will the R3volution support for 2012?"

And we need to set it up so that we decide who gets it in 2011's Presidential Race.

I do not know how we can keep this money separate from Ron Paul's Campaign For Liberty.

I do not know how we can keep this money separate from Jesse Ventura or Gov Gary Johnson's campaigns either.

But what I do know and understand is that that if WE CREATE the MONEY POOL, they --- Politicians & MSM will come knocking on our door.

May I suggest we set up a PAC that has with it a $200 contribution limit rule per person. Furthermore, a $200 contribution = One Vote on who to run as the R3VOLution's Presidential candidate.

May I further suggest we make it so that it is all OPEN. That is, open to checking, open books, open software, open to all sorts of verification by anyone.

May I further suggest that we draft 10 Goals of the R3VOLution.

May I further suggest that any presidential candidate who gets awarded the funds swear to those 10 goals of the R3volution.

If we could do that, we could make OURSELVES a huge FACTOR in the GOP race to the White House.

If we could do that, we could make and give the "winner" of the R3VOLution's Presidential race PAC money huge HUGE MSM exposure.

Those are just some ideas, ... please make them your own. Please feel free to act on them and do something with them.

In Peace & Liberty,
Treg

i'm calling it now

And I did not claim to be a republican but did say Paul should be the republican nominee. I am sure there are alot of people in that catagory, which explains his 3% among Reps but 7% overall.

If Paul or someone like him is running as a republican, then I will definately be voting in the Rep primary, so his number would be higher than 3%.

Drop them to 30 Senators in 2010 (if there ARE elections in 2010) and you might see some serious movement in our direction.

If sounds as if the MSM moguls are bleeding green. It's time for some really major hit pieces on Sumner Redstone, Jeff Immelt, Edgar Bronfman, etc. Hit them for as long and as hard as you can and drag down their revenues. If you make the cost of doing business too high for them, you have toehold, and that's better than nothing.

They are banking on a Obama Failure and on nothing else.
No new ideas. No plan own up to their lack of integrity.
Still sticking to the same "social conservative" line to justify bigotry and murder by consent. Check out Rebuild the Party suggestions. What a Joke. These people are clueless and don't realize how many people who used to be republican will no longer stand for their religous sharia ideology.

My prediction. GOP loses by a wider margin and loses more seats.
Things could go relitavely well under Obama. Cerainly better than the last 4 years of Bush.

Goodbye GOP..

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Good Thoughts, Good Words , Good Deeds.
That is the Ron Paul rEVOLution Creed.

One Louv. ;-)..

If the GOP is serious about Palin, we can officially mark them as brain dead.

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Sarah Palin will be a has been long before 2012. I doubt she will win re-election. There will be plenty of other things going on between now and then that will have people looking for someone with a brain. Palin is a non-issue.

Good luck to you all with that one, but I have given up on the GOP. After hours of meetings at my local REC -- hours that consisted mainly of 'Islamo-homophobia' -- I realized that I have little if anything in common with these sad-rags. The GOP of today is being run by maniacs, sociopaths, and pro-torture deviants.

f**k the GOP! I have never been treated so horribly in my life. They can have their deflating party.

How in god's name could these people be considered, the Republican party obviously has learned almost nothing. If I have to see another charade election I swear, I am going to truly revolt.

"It is the responsibility of the patriot to protect his country from its government."

— Thomas Paine

It does not have Paul, but they do list Johnson.

http://race42008.com/2008...

Giuliani at around double Paul's percentage, even while Paul demolished him in the real primaries. Do not worry about this. This will not be the focus for now, perhaps relevant 100 days into Obama's admin. Paul will and should not announce any presidential run in the next few months, it would be way premature. He mentioned he would make a decision in about mid next year. This poll also does not include Gary Johnson, who is interested to run (probably if Dr. Paul does not run).

The poll also does not include Mark Sanford, while it does has Bobby Jindal, who indicated himself he is not interested in it now, but rather on being a good gov. and reelection in 2011.