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2012 and Planet X

Okay, I know I'm probably gonna get some mud thrown at me for this post, but have you guys read any material or watched any videos on this whole Planet X phenomenon? The one where a planet orbiting our sun every 3,000 years or so will cross paths with us in the year 2012? I've just recently found out about this and started watching some videos on youtube and did some reading about the possibility and the repercussions that it might have if it is true, which is to say, almost complete annihilation of the entire human race. And to be honest, I can't help but think about it when people mention elections in 2012 and other policy that will be taking place at that time. Could this be the underlying reason for consolidation of wealth and power via the power elite? Could this be the reason there is more talk of martial law or the increasing threat of food shortages? Could this also be the reason that the government has numerous underground bases a half mile beneath the rocky mountains? Or am I just stiffing the glue? lol

just curious. what do you guys know?

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Alex Jones

Says it's all bull.

this could help

It is a very informative book and goes in depth about the creation ofEarth... aka Urantia

http://www.urantia.org/pa...

Does my burka make my butt look fatwa?

Scholarly Study on this and the Tablet of Summer with

Pictures of Helecopters on them and other modern things is wild. The huge stones at Bashara and the uncovered bones of giant nephilem.
Science fiction really comes from Archeology..
Stichens Book is ONLINE HERE..

http://www.bibliotecapley...

If anything else it is intersting reading and the archeological evidence is compelling for at least the belief of this event in ancient history and the progression of mankind and spread of races also supports the theory.
Honestly I'd rather it be aliens than the rements of a intergalactic collision perpendicular to the milky way that our band runs into every 24,000 years (hindu cosmology) or a Gamma ray burst from the black hole at the center of the galaxy while passing through the ecliptic of the milky way which is a different cosmology.

This is the Mayan Calendar..And different all together than Planet X Niburu, alien, conection. Even thoug the Mayans also had the lizard people from the sky.

We should remember that even if it is true.

IT IS NO REASON TO EVER GIVE UP OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS.

THE CONSTITUTION IS BIG ENOUGH, EVEN IF THEIR ARE ALIENS !

One Voice, One Vision, One Love ~ Liberty.
Good Thoughts, Good Words , Good Deeds.
That is the Ron Paul rEVOLution Creed.
One Louv. ;-)..

One Voice, One Vision, One Love ~ Liberty.
Good Thoughts, Good Words , Good Deeds.
That is the Ron Paul rEVOLution Creed.

One Louv. ;-)..

didn't they make this into a feature movie

and a spin off mini series called "Stargate" and "Stargate SG-1" respectively and of course Hollywood changed the truth all out of proportion.

YES... It is great science fiction

(10:10-11) "The LORD cast down great stones from heaven upon them ... and they died."

God slaughters the Amorites and even chases them "along the way" as they try to escape. Then he sends down huge hailstones and kills even more of them.

10:11 And it came to pass, as they fled from before Israel, and were in the going down to Bethhoron, that the LORD cast down great stones from heaven upon them unto Azekah, and they died: they were more which died with hailstones than they whom the children of Israel slew with the sword.

Evidence for the Nephiliam / Giants / Rapiem...
Part1
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/wa...

Alien Skulls / Giants and Megaliths.
http://www.youtube.com/wa...

Why did El show Adam where the good gold was?
When did G-d become JaHoVah?

Perhaps reality is stranger than fiction.

THE NWO WILL USE THIS TO DISTRACT....
It is a societal shift and growing subconscous "virus" that changes the substrate of peoples understanding and the "color" of the glasses they look through.

So in my view it is relevant in a general sense to this group, in that it pertains to a major shift in "consciousness" for lack of a better word. It will be used , be it true or fantasy, for manevolence.

Religous hucksters will decieve people in the name of obtaining more power and unearned wealth. Fear is a tool of hucksters, parasites / energy vampires.

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One Voice, One Vision, One Love ~ Liberty.
Good Thoughts, Good Words , Good Deeds.
That is the Ron Paul rEVOLution Creed.

One Louv. ;-)..

Is planet-X where the X-men

Is planet-X where the X-men come from?

and they drive the . . .

Plymith satalite
Watch freedomtofascism.com

It's pretty sickening and

It's pretty sickening and scary to think there are people who refuse to believe FEMA camps exist, the economy is being destroyed on purpose, the FRB is private, elections are rigged, and 9/11 was an inside job but when it comes to things like "planet-X" it's an easy sell.

Killer bees......global warming.........planet X.....

Mad cow.....dead bees too...(what's with the bees?)....food shortages.....Gold 5000 an oz......$200 a barrel oil....aids.....Chicken flu.....chemtrails....Hershey bars without enough almonds (just slipped that in there to see if you were paying attention)....Runaway inflation......out of control deflation....Dow industrials 4000..."meltdown of the month".....we done with mortgages yet?...still need to melt them down some?...where's the unemployment crisis?......Hillary for president (oops she's secretary of state!)....Y2K (remember airliners dropping out of the sky and the bank losing your account?)....did I say planet X????

Why do you need to post this clap here? We were fine without planet X.

I'm just getting revved up for global cooling......brrrrr!

Don't forget Bigfoot, The

Don't forget Bigfoot, The Loch Ness Monster, the Abominable Snowman, the chupacabras, Champ, the Bermuda Triangle, UFO Abductions, and the munchkin who hung himself on the set of "The Wizard of Oz."

Now now, this is a free

Now now, this is a free forum for free thinking people. If it won't be discussed in the media, I would imagine we should at least be open-minded about it here.

I find it ironic...

...that people are willing to believe that Moses parted the red sea, Jesus walked on water, God made man and walked with him in some giant garden and then took a rib from him and made women (ever consider WHY an almighty God would have to take a rib from one of his creations to make another? Guess you can create the entire universe but when it comes to women, they're just so complex that you need a male rib to get the job done)...why do people believe this crap instead of a far simpler answer? We were GENETICALLY ENGINEERED. If you go back 2,000 years and tried to tell people that one day we'd be flying, creating weapons that you can point and click at people and kill them instantly, making buildings that reach miles in the air, drive horses that aren't alive at speeds far faster than they can imagine, they'd most certainly look at you like you were insane. They wouldn't believe you in the slightest. Yet, if they went ahead 2,000 years, they'd see it for themselves.

So, if you want to learn the truth about our past, then you need to go BACK thousands of years. Get your head out of this religious bullshit, and start researching the facts. It's no coincidence that the same stories are told by cultures that had existed all over the world in ancient times. The inhabitans of Nibiru could have existed for millions of years before us (or whatever other planet they came from), so it's not terribly hard to believe they have the technology for space travel and genetic engineering. Hell, from what moles have said in OUR government, we already have warphole technology and all of those other gadgets. One guy from Lockheed Martin, referring to what's behind their black doors, was quoted as saying "Everything that you've read in the science fiction novels is reality, but it would take an act of God for the public to ever see it."'

Use your brain and logic; not your beliefs.

Exactly. When emotion

Exactly. When emotion surplants logic then everything gets FUBAR, and there's no reasoning with the unreasonable.

Doc Holladay
Nashville, TN
http://www.myspace.com/do...

"Use your brain and logic;

"Use your brain and logic; not your beliefs."

Agreed. And when I do that, it forces me to reject the supposed claims of supposed Lockheed Martin employees for lack of evidence.

Oops.

I'm right there with you on religion though. I'm often baffled that people who can manage to detect conspiracies behind 9/11, the NWO, etc., can't seem to figure out that religion is a massive snow job.

Yes, but...

...I personally have no doubt in my mind that we have incredible technology that's kept in secret from society, so based on the evidence that I've researched to support that viewpoint for me, the Lockheed Martin guy is just casually and cockily mentioning what I already know to be true. This is an interesting site--I find it hard to believe that folks can have the intelligence to support RP, yet still honestly think 9/11 wasn't a planned disaster. Even John Lennon's assassination was a government job.

I second that emotion

"I'm right there with you on religion though. I'm often baffled that people who can manage to detect the truth about 9/11, the NWO, etc., can't seem to figure out that religion is a massive snow job."

Well said, friend.

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Planet X won`t display on my Garmin. I need vector directions.

HYDROMAN

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HYDROMAN

Planet X

There ain't no such thing.

However, the guy who invented it made plenty of money and distracted a lot of people.

Such notions always seem to gain popularity among anxious people in times of uncertainty and instability.

It is no surprise that they are resurfacing today.

However, Ron Paul's people are not well served with these distractions.
They only serve to keep us from focusing on our goal of liberty.

2012 and the Myth of Planet X debunked...go here

http://lionandlambministr...

2012 and Planet X are just more dis-information

In Christ,
Dave

"where the Spirit of the LORD is, there is liberty." 2 Cor. 3:17

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Heh

A Christian talking about myth debunking. That's funny.

w/e

In Christ,
Dave

"where the Spirit of the LORD is, there is liberty." 2 Cor. 3:17

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LOL.... comment of the day~

LOL.... comment of the day~ :)

Doc Holladay
Nashville, TN
http://www.myspace.com/do...

:)

:)

You should immediately go

You should immediately go out and buy the entire "Earth Chronicles" series by Zecharia Sitchin. Start with "The 12th Planet" and go from there. Don't worry about getting flamed for your post here. This issue is actually more relevant than you know, and is at the heart of current world events. The planet is called Nibiru, and its orbit is actually closer to 3,600 years, according to the Sumerian records on which Sitchin bases his work. The inhabitants of this planet are actually the 'creators' of our race (via genetic engineering..... they blended their own DNA with that of primitive man in order to create a slave race (us) to be their workers) and they are who we refer to as "God" (in the Bible) or the "gods" (as in 'mythology' and the various other religions of the world). The monotheism we see taught today was implemented during Biblical times, primarialy for political reasons, but prior to that it was common knowledge that there were muliple "gods". All of the ancient wars were caused by one "god" using kings/armies to fight another "god" for territory, supremacy and the like.

It is unfortunate that many people (including some of our DP'ers here) dismiss these ideas outright without investigation, because if one views world history and biblical writings from this perspective it suddenly all begins to make sense. It's not like this information is all that 'hidden' either... the Bible is full of references to aerial vehicles, high technology, 'miracles', and the like, and there is abundant archeological evidence as well. We can't duplicate the construction of the pyramids even today (not to mention how or why the ancient Egyptians would have incorporated astronomical alignments into them). Look at Baalbek Lebanon.... the foundation stones are so massive that no know technology, modern or ancient could have concievably moved them and put them in place. Look at the Abydos helicopter, Cydonia on Mars etc. Just look at the technological explosion that has taken place in the last 60 years or so. Starting around 1947-48, we suddenly started devoloping nuclear technology, computer technology, microwave ovens, kevlar, fiber optics, silicon chips, and too many other things to mention here. Do we really believe that out of the blue humans got THAT much smarter without some sudden infusion of knowledge of some kind? (Roswell, anyone?) I mean, we've had more technological progress in the last 60 years than in the entire history of mankind, and we just blow it off as if it's nothing unusual... just another day at the office for humanity!

The truth is that the "elites" are quite well aware of our true history, and of where we come from, and in fact the "elites'" very existance is tied to the bloodlines of the "gods" themselves. Most of the "secret societies" we hear about exist for the purpose of perserving this knowledge (and of supressing it from the public). They want to keep the sheep dumbed down and under control, and use the media, religion etc in order to accomplish that end.

This "mystery" planet has been passing through our solar system every 3,600 years for eons, and while there will surely be some dramatic gravitational effects (earthquakes, climate changes, weather problems and the like) it will be nothing new as far as the history of the Earth and its inhabitants. It's survived quite well so far and therefore I find the "end of the world" doomsday scenarios to be a little bit extreme. What will be "earth shattering", if you'll pardon the pun, is the revelation that we aren't alone in the universe, and never have been, and that our world leaders have been shaping the NWO and world events specifically BECAUSE the return is fairly immenent, and they know it. According to Sitichin, it may be more around 2087 than 2012, but the point is that MAJOR changes are coming that will completely change everyone's world view and shake the foundations of every major belief system on Earth, whether it be religious or historical. The Bible speaks plainly about the "return", but what most fail to grasp is that the 'gods' are literal beings who are coming back, and who in fact have never stopped influencing world events.

All I ask is that people do the reading and keep an open mind. It's certainly no harder to believe than in the mystical "spiritual" miracles and anthropomorphic "God" etc to which most people's religions subcribe.

Doc Holladay
Nashville, TN
http://www.myspace.com/do...

Stitchens work is facinating and the tablets of Summer with

Pictures of Helecopters on them and other modern things is wild. The huge stones at Bashara and the uncovered bones of giant nephilem.

Stichens Book is ONLINE HERE..
http://www.bibliotecapley...

If anything else it is intersting reading and the archeological evidence is compelling for at least the belief of this event in ancient history and the progression of mankind and spread of races also supports the theory.

Honestly I'd rather it be aliens than the rements of a intergalactic collision perpendicular to the milky way that our band runs into every 24,000 years (hindu cosmology) or a Gamma ray burst from the black hole at the center of the galaxy while passing through the ecliptic of the milky way which is a different cosmology.

This is the Mayan Calendar..And different all together than Planet X Niburu, alien, conection. Even thoug the Mayans also had the lizard people from the sky.

BUT, UNTIL I SEE AND TALK TO A Alien ...

It is ancient fables. The problem is if enough people start believing it, then they will be easily influenced subconsiously. So I'm more prone to Aliens are US.

One Voice, One Vision, One Love ~ Liberty.
Good Thoughts, Good Words , Good Deeds.
That is the Ron Paul rEVOLution Creed.

One Louv. ;-)..

Fascinating and Enlightening!

I have read all of Sitchin's books at least twice. This is truly some fascinating material. Sitchin has devoted his life's work to translating ancient texts and publishes his findings without editing out what the "powers-that-be" do not want us to know. The correlation of data between cultures and civilizations over the eons validates his findings beyond question(imo). His book "Genesis Revisited" answered the questions I have had about the Bible since I was a child. Since reading these texts I have been able to connect dots that I didn't even know existed previously. We are only now rediscovering some of the technology that has been in use on this planet for over 250,000 years, ie. genetic engineering, nuclear and microwave energy, space travel, etc., etc., etc.
I highly recommend this reading to everyone!
--
"Aggressive wars, income taxes, national IDs, domestic spying, torture regimes, secret prisons, Federal Reserve manipulation -- we don't have to take it any more." -- Ron Paul

Doc~

Outstanding comment and awesome music brother !!

Too bad every thing

Too bad every thing mentioned is either fantasy or pseudoscience, which comes down to being the same in the end.

yy, are you religious? Cuz

yy, are you religious? Cuz if you ARE, explain to me the difference between faith and fantasy....

Take a wild guess.

Take a wild guess.

I have no idea :)

I have no idea :)

I don't have faith of any

I don't have faith of any kind and couldn't if I wanted to.

I assume you have faith in

I assume you have faith in yourself, don't you?
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Have a good laugh:
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No, I don't have belief in

No, I don't have belief in abilities of myself I have no evidence for.

Would you say you couldn't do something before trying?

do you assume failure in all things? or just no expectations whatsoever? No faith at all intrigues me.

It doesn't have to be a

It doesn't have to be a personal thing, if I see an average person doing something not too out of the ordinary I similarly have not much reason to expect failure for instance. Most things in life tend to be a combination of a fairly limited set of things so I can infer from that as well. So it depends on what the thing is, but if it's something I have nothing to go by from I generally have near zero expectations and just try.

This is too vague to qualify

This is too vague to qualify as a response for me, but the fact that you haven't given up attempting to respond is encouraging.
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Have a good laugh:
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I'm not sure how I can make

I'm not sure how I can make it less vague, It's just that in every day life there is little faith needed, if it is only on faith I have no expectations.

Likewise. So much for THAT

Likewise. So much for THAT argument! LoL

Ok then, the pyramids

Ok then, the pyramids aren't peudoscience, nor is Baalbek. How did they get there and why? There are documented 4,500 year old 'cylinder seals' from Sumer which show our Solar System in detail, with the Sun in the center etc. How did the Sumerians know? You and I have been here before, and all you have to offer is some b.s. website called "Sitchin is Wrong" which attempts to attack his credentials and provides nothing but straw man after straw man.

Doc Holladay
Nashville, TN
http://www.myspace.com/do...

"Ok then, the pyramids

"Ok then, the pyramids aren't peudoscience, nor is Baalbek. How did they get there and why?"
There is plenty of information about how and why the pyramids were built, even the average Joe has seen a documentary or two about it.
Baalbek isn't that well known, but certainly no mystery:
http://www.ramtops.co.uk/...

"There are documented 4,500 year old 'cylinder seals' from Sumer which show our Solar System in detail, with the Sun in the center etc."
It certainly does not.
It shows the Sumerian STAR symbol not the SUN symbol.

"and all you have to offer is some b.s. website called "Sitchin is Wrong" which attempts to attack his credentials and provides nothing but straw man after straw man."
His credentials are hardly the core point, every fundamental point is addressed, INCLUDING the one I just quoted from you about the seal, which either shows you have not read the website apart from the first bit or you are continuing arguments you know are WRONG.

The Sumerian "Star" symbol?

The Sumerian "Star" symbol? Give me a break. Ok, let's say you're right (which you're not, but for the sake of argument...) Even it is, as you say, the Sumerian "star" symbol, how the hell would the Sumerians have known about the OTHER planets in the solar system? As for the pyramids and Baalbek, why do we assume that ancient people could achive a technological feat with logs and ramps that is not currently feasable, even with our modern technologies? The current "theories" on how and why these structures were built are incorrect, either with purpose or due to ignorance. I HAVE looked at that site, have determined that's it's disinfo, and am and will continue to educate as many people as I can. The truth DOES set you free and learning the truth about our history is a very powerful tool when it comes to liberating minds from the chains of reigion and political dogma.

Doc Holladay
Nashville, TN
http://www.myspace.com/do...

"Even it is, as you say, the

"Even it is, as you say, the Sumerian "star" symbol, how the hell would the Sumerians have known about the OTHER planets in the solar system?"
What part do you not get? It's not depicting the solar system so it cannot tell you about their knowledge about any planets in the solar system, those dots around the star symbol are probably trying to represent more stars in the night sky as it IS the star symbol.
If they had any knowledge about any more planets than any other society they surely would've shown that more clearly than this, like naming them all and maybe represent their size and orbits accurately. But no, it's merely a depiction at the top of the sky in between two men to show it's nighttime, it makes no sense to even draw a solar system there, which it obviously isn't if you look at Sumerian art, clearly showing the different symbols for the sun, moon and star in the same piece.

"As for the pyramids and Baalbek, why do we assume that ancient people could achive a technological feat with logs and ramps that is not currently feasable, even with our modern technologies?"
That's just silly talk trying to downplay the ancient civilizations. With the amount of manpower and time available back then we can most definitely build these things.

"The current "theories" on how and why these structures were built are incorrect, either with purpose or due to ignorance."
Incorrect because it doesn't involve aliens? Despite all the evidence in the form of art, drawings and text on why and how they were built?

"I HAVE looked at that site, have determined that's it's disinfo"
Everything shows you haven't, or you wouldn't continue to mention things that are shown to be DEAD WRONG.

"The truth DOES set you free and learning the truth about our history is a very powerful tool when it comes to liberating minds from the chains of reigion and political dogma."
It's such a shame you put a dogmatic religion in the place of it all then isn't it.

Hate to interupt you two...

"That's just silly talk trying to downplay the ancient civilizations. With the amount of manpower and time available back then we can most definitely build these things."

LOL I'd love to hear your theory on how the pyramids were built. But before you start. You can't use any slaves, ramps, or log rollers because all of these have been thoroughly debunked. But hey if you still they're valid explanations I'd love to hear how.

"Moreover, as America becomes an increasingly multicultural society, it may find it more difficult to fashion a consensus on foreign policy issues, except in the circumstances of a truly massive and widely perceived direct external threat."

Ramps are debunked? How does

Ramps are debunked? How does this work?

Where are the ramps? If they

Where are the ramps? If they had used ramps it would taken more materials to make the ramps than the pyramid itself. So if they used ramps where are they?

"Moreover, as America becomes an increasingly multicultural society, it may find it more difficult to fashion a consensus on foreign policy issues, except in the circumstances of a truly massive and widely perceived direct external threat."

There was a lengthy

There was a lengthy discussion of an interior ramp theory on NPR just last week (I think). It made a lot of sense, and they are now attempting to get permission to test it (with scanning) from the Egyptian government.
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Have a good laugh:
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