Current economic situation explained from Austrian perspective
At a website entitled The Prudent Bear:
May clarify for those of us who are new to this business.
I suggest you bookmark the site's home page and keep checking it for more articles which make sense.
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Thank you for the GREAT article! I needed an analysis to help
assure me that pulling my money out of the stock market is a good idea.
I'm a girk! Chatta me kort please!
New math!
Only 5 - 10% inflation by 2010?
That seems low considering that it said that we may also have hyperinflation. I'm just a learner here, but wondering what the rest of you think of these predicted numbers.
Considering the amount of
Considering the amount of money being infused into the system I would consider that a very low inflationary number. Normally, there is a correlation between the percentage of monetary injection and the rate of eventual inflation.
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You missed parts of that equasion
A better example of that formula would be to compare the % of monetary inflation minus monetary destruction and minus economic growth to get the eventual inflation.
You have to account for dollars being destroyed, as well as the amount of goods and services available for sale as well.
Are you talking about future
Are you talking about future earnings based on "toxic assets" or are you talking about "paper weatlh" in the stock market? What type of dollars are you talking about and how were those dollars functioning within the economy. There is a great deal of difference between "representative dollars" based upon future earnings or "paper wealth" than actual functioning dollars within the monetary base. Likewise, there is a huge amount of what is commonly called "EuroDollars" which have never been repatriated that do not necessarily impact our domestic economy but do have a general impact on our monetary system, only outside the direct control of the FED????
So, what dollars are you talking about and exactly how did those "dollars" function and react within the general economy?
Do you think the hundreds of Trillions of Dollars in Derivatives is actual dollars or representational of dollars? In other words, what constitutes a dollar in such terms since it is obvious that there are not, nor have they been in circulation no matter what currency they are accounted with.
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No, not paper wealth
I'm talking about bank balance sheet money. I'm talking about fractionally extended money. This money exists only on paper, but it is spent every day like real money in the real economy. The money created to loan you a mortgage. When banks write down their balance sheets, they are destroying this money.
Stock market wealth and derivative money is something different. When this devalues, nothing changes but an individual's net worth, there is no net difference in the amount of currency.
I'm talking about real money, or as real as our money gets.
Oh, I understand what you
Oh, I understand what you are saying jzneff, but you must realize that when the extended that money through the fractional reserve system, creating it through a loan, that money entered the economic pipeline at the time of lending. It has been spent, based upon the principal amount extended in the lending process. That money has worked through the economy flow patterns at the time it was extended. The bank balance sheets are bascially comprised of future earnings from those loans, principal and interest obligations. When they write off those loans, the original money that was basically created out of thin air in the first place has been utilized by paying this person or that person, this supplier, that builder, the land owner, etc. The balance on the banks books take the form of the future earnings off that mortgage. The actual losses are as much a fiat entry as the money that was extended in the first place when a borrowed signed it into creation through a mortgage or loan instrument.
Now, since it is very rare that a bank hold its own paper and usually pools the loans into tranches that are sold to various investors, including other banks the only transaction would then be the discounted cost of those tranches and the future earnings they represent. The only change came when those tranches could not longer be considered assets, but were transformed into liabilities. The bank balance sheet then takes a hit based on the amount of liability represented by those bad tranches of MBSs.
Say a bank bought MBS tranches at a spread of 2.5% and later in the year some, but not all of those notes come due, then its portfolio will increase by the amount of the spread on those notes producing at any given time or they will decrease by the amount of the non-producing notes at any given time if there are losses. It is the reason banks and investors bought into MBS because they provided what was thought to be safe and secure future earnings. The losses to the bank would be the initial investments in those securites, money that the bank had on hand as either part of their reserves or assets. These were called structure investment portfolios because they are based on extended returns not present returns.
Now some banks were able to avoid sub-prime MBS write-offs they were holding by quickly buying into GBS with higher spreads and while they had losses within their portfolio of MBS, they made up for it with short-term securities in government backed instruments such as those issued by FannieMae or FreddieMac.
The liquidity of an instrument determines just how close it is to real money, the more liquidity an instrument has the more it operates like real money on the books of a bank; counterwise, the more illiquid an instrument is the less it acts like real money. The investments made by banks into MBS were not very liquid, in fact they were traded as discount instruments because of the fact that they were relatively illiquid instruments representing furture earnings instead of present earnings. Of course, as the markets contracted away from such instruments the less liquid they became to the point that no one would trade them because they had no discernable evaluation as to actual worth.
Now, if you are talking about bonds as part of a banks portfolio then you are talking about something that is very close to real money however, in most cases, unless they are short-term, those bonds are also structured for future returns.
So, what money are you talking about?
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Schiff thinks it could be something like
30% if I remember right. I could be wrong though.
Considering the amount being
Considering the amount being poured in by the FED, I think even 30% would be considered modest.
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I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue. Barry Goldwater
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and will read later.
Excellent article
This is a very well written article, and should be read by all. It explains in a nutshell what's truly happening.
I have 2 bones of contention...just some details the author left out
1) The author was very correct to blame Smoot-Hawley tarrifs for the length and depth of the depression...I think he also missed a major fed mistake before that...the immediate contraction of credit shortly after 1929. They assumed that since credit expansion started the problem, immediate and severe credit reduction was the cure. They are not making this mistake again.
2) The author claims that since banks are FDIC insured, the amount of money lost in the early 1930's won't repeat itself today. While this is true, the fractional reserve system allows for monetary destruction (through writedowns) while still maintaining the bank's integrity...so the economy can still lose lots of money even though banks aren't failing in droves.
I think focusing on 'solving
I think focusing on 'solving the depression' as a stand alone problem is excessively myopic. Over a longer horizon, letting the rampant credit expansion that occurred in the late 20's turn to contraction without intervention, provided exactly the healthy fear of engaging in speculation society would benefit from in the future. Of course I'm only guessing, but if this natural contraction had been 'bailed out', 'softened', or somesuch, we would have had a return to speculative excesses quicker than we did.
So, my take is, that viewed over a somewhat longer time horizon; they, as in the fed, made less of a mistake in 1929 than they did in 2008.
Upping tariffs and general protectionism and interventionism was certainly disasterous, though.
I disagree
I think in this instance, you need to be somewhat myopic. Allowing the nation to sink into depression to save the dollar's value is foolish. People who've overinvested into bubbles have learned their lesson...be it the dot.com people or the housing markets, lesson has been taught already. You don't need to collapse the engine of the world to let a lesson be taught.
The speculative excess was not due to a lack of proper perspective, for there will always be dumb investments and dumb decisions. The problem of the 1920's was that the Fed's easy money policies were squeezing an unnatural amount of mistakes into a short period of time. Don't assume that people weren't making bad investments in 1986, just that tighter monetary policy was limiting these decisions.
The fed is in bailout mode mainly because it's through their mistakes that we're in the position we're in right now. If it were a single bank or a handful of banks that made wrong moves, it would be different...but it was a systemic problem caused by the fed.
I think they are approaching the crisis in 2008 with a better perspective than the 1929 crisis, and thus we aren't going to sink into a depression. Right now, the dollar's value is of secondary concern to the economy at large. Once you've stabilized the economy with excess liquidity, you then have the luxury of tightening policy to hault inflation, because the economy is healthy enough to take it.
I'm afraid that i'm starting to hear the populist rhetoric that tarriffs need to be increased greatly to save the American worker. Hopefully, those calls will be ignored because they are as short sighted and stupid as any action.
The investors who have been
The investors who have been systematically (and rightfully) creamed during the bailouts are equity holders. So far, most classes of bond holders have been rescued, as have those who have relied on CDS contracts written by insufficiently capitalized counterparties to gear up their own balance sheets.
So the lessons thus far taught, has largely been that the risk differential between equity and debt investments are larger than what it would be without meddling. And that this is particularly so for the debt of the largest institutions.
One way or the other, this will skew future investment decisions towards a preference for debt, as well as for larger companies. Exactly the opposite of what is needed to induce venture capitalists to take equity stakes in small startups. Which is the model that has made Silicon Valley by far the biggest wealth and jobs creating engine in the West over the last 40 years.
So the meddling _will_ backfire. Just possibly in ways not blatantly obvious to the average voter.
Meddling always backfires
Yes, their meddling will induce some unforeseen consequences. I'd be blind to ignore that fact.
But you don't simply stop meddling on a dime in the midst of a crisis, it's simply unwise.
I compare the country to a medical patient who just had a heart attack and a quadruple bypass. Yes, it was the years of overconsumption that created the problem, but it is terrible medical practice to begin a starvation diet immediately after the operation to fix the problem.
The analogy shows that the patient in this case needs his strength first, and once he's recovered, you can begin to address the root cause of his bad health.
In 1929 (or shortly thereafter) the fed correctly saw that their easy money policy had caused the crash, and thought that a starvation diet would be the answer. It made the problem far worse and pushed us into a deflationary depression. Once that was underway, every attempt to fix it only made it worse.
In the 1970s, they did not repeat this mistake, they maintained their easy money policies until the early 1980's (when the economy had recovered a little) and then pulled the spending brake hard, which killed inflation while not killing the economy. The result was the healthiest 20 year economy in history.
They screwed up by not learning from their original mistakes though, and the fed maintained their easy money policies during the 1990's. This is the mistake we're living with now, and if we don't want to be here again, we cannot repeat this mistake.
Getting rid of the fed is a noble cause and is the right thing to do, but it is something that cannot be done overnight, and something which should not be done in the midst of this crisis. We have to return to non-interventionalist monetary policy to prevent the next crisis, but not to cure the current one.
I see where you're coming
I see where you're coming from, but feel the monetary response to the crack has been vilified more than it deserves. Had abrupt reversal in credit expansion been the only official response (or non response) to the 1929 crack, I doubt the downturn would have been long lasting enough for any of us to be speaking of it today. Capital owners would have gotten ravaged, but assets would have been written down, liabilities written off, and people would much more quickly have been able to start from a blank slate. Savings would of course have taken a pummeling, which would have meant delayed retirement for many.
It was, at least as I see it, all the other, non monetary responses that made the depression so 'great.' It opened up possibilities for an entire cottage industry of economic quacks and other charlatans to send public money and works in their, or their clients' direction.
And while, in isolation, I am sure you are right that cutting of credit now, would be about as bad a timing as possible, not doing so will inevitably lead market participants to (correctly) guess they will be bailed out next time as well, leading to even more excesses later.
That being said, if policy makers really did as you advice; ease credit until the worst is over, and then immediately go about credibly reducing or eliminating their own ability to do so in the future; that would likely be the best of all worlds. I just feel that, regardless of how deep and long lasting this downturn turns out to be, policy makers will claim it would have been even worse without them intervening. Hence, we should use the current mistrust in the fed and economic interventionism to reduce their role, even if now may not be the exact optimal time to do so.
read it greed .. then give
read it greed .. then give me your "opinion" lol
"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
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The "Greedian" has left the
The "Greedian" has left the room, or so it seems, perhaps he is merely a hit and run poster at this point. I can't wait to hear his apologies when inflation begins to once again take a heavy toll.
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I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue. Barry Goldwater
bump....this needs to be
bump....this needs to be read!
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I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue. Barry Goldwater
That is an absolutely GREAT
That is an absolutely GREAT article!!!
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I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue. Barry Goldwater
your blog
is every bit as informative. i have shoved more than one (hopefully) reader your way.
Thank you...I appreciate
Thank you...I appreciate it!
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I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue. Barry Goldwater