You people who think talking about the NWO is less important than talking about political action

You are right. We are all ready in chains. But at least we know it and we know why because we think and we do the research. Dr. Paul has been successful because he keeps hammering away at educating the media and the public. Now he is more in demand with the media. Truth has a way of doing that. He just keeps repeating the story until some finally hear it. Maybe that is all we can do right now; follow his example. Find some ways to keep getting the message out in a simple but effective way. There have been lots of good suggestions on DP such as your idea of advertising, DVDs, inspirational speakers who are great speakers and know the issues. No matter how much history we know and how much we know about NWO, it comes down to three things that need to be done to break these chains. As RP keeps saying: End the Fed. End the Wars. Restore the constitution.

I couldn't agree more with you Mike and I think when we understand that Freedom and/or Liberty is just another way for them to distract us from what is really going on we will then begin to see all we have is God given rights then all would be good in the world again until then everything will just continue to go down hill no matter how much we try to fight or stand up to "political" aspects..the majority of World Leaders/Rulers are Satanists and we really need to open our eyes to the facts.. just check into..Georgia Guidestones..Statue of Liberty..Washington Monument...etc to start

that's all that control this country. Yet they control this country.

What's the name of the website you created?

http://killfiat.blogspot....

I was beginning to think this site/some users have really begun to lose sight...

Also think about this. There are other planets in the universe. Planets like Pleiades who are actually trying to help the human race. Read "buried alive" with James Casbolt (NSA mind control survivor) scarrry stuff but very interesting.

Cmon people we live in a universe!! filled with other galactical univerise/systems/whatevers...There are 'others' yaya!

`do not fear the unknown`

What must happen for real change to occur is that society as a whole must have a disgust and distrust of government, and a hunger for individual freedom AND responsibility. The majority will NEVER know or understand all of the intricacies of the long story of what took the country down..... but the predominant "feeling" or "mood" of society must be AWAY from central control.

And in very small ways we can see little things creeping into the mainstream because social mood IS changing little by little. Dr. Paul and Peter Schiff and Jim Rodgers being on SO MANY shows lately tells me that ratings go up when they are on.... which means they are starting to make sense to the masses.

So I think that educating and educating and talking and talking is a GOOD thing for slowly changing social mood. I also don't think that is going to prevent the devastation that is about to come. So I believe that we who DO know the in depth story should be preparing ourselves for a long silent waiting period..... "underground" so to speak.... until the day that we can help save the survivors and save the world. We who are knowledgeable must also be WISE and REALISTIC in our future plans, so that we can lead the ignorant masses to freedom even though they will NEVER understand the whole picture.
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To add to what you have already said....We are sucked in by voting, sending money, filling out political surveys, and answering polls. All of this info is used by the elites to further manipulate us. They don't give a rip about our needs.

We felt used in this last election. Showing up at the polls made us feel like fools. Sad, but true. Vote again? I doubt it.

Yes sir, Mr. Boss man. I voted today Boss. I had to miss work, miss lunch and drive like a mad man, but I stood in long lines so I could vote for you Mr.Bossman. Yes sir, Mr Bossman I voted today. Did I do good Mr Bossman? Am I a good citizen Mr Bossman? Get back to work?
Oh, yes sir, Mr Bossman...I am working and paying taxes, yes sir, Mr Bossman.

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If we can undo all that is wrong without starting from scratch. Well not from scratch, we do have the constitution. We can start from there when and if we free ourselves from the NWO.

I agree with everything you said. As my husband and I have discussed, when you speak the truth to people they eventually will hear it, and will eventually understand. Spread the truth to family members, and friends whenever you get the chance to do so, it is very important especially now that all the crap is hitting the fan. I remember telling family members about this several years back, and they thought I was nuts, now I have them coming to me saying "Wow, you were right". Do not give up period! Americans who are caught up with normal everyday life will take a while to realize the truth, but with all that is going on in the world they might wake up, and actually realize you are speaking the truth, especially now.

The illusion is so deep. I think I get it and then realize I am still so much a slave. Yesterday I was figuring out my money and how much I need to make for the next month. Then I thought, What is this crap? I am not doing what I want to do, living where I want to live or working the hours I want to work. I could serve humanity much better doing something else. I am not free. I pay and pay and pay.

I have to get out of this place...if its the last thing I ever do

Good on you for reminding us.

Isn't that the point?

Who is holding us?

"They" = small group of men. Leadership 100 or so tops. First circle of lackeys 1000 or so tops.

What freaking camps?

We are already in a camp. We are not headed for any camps because we are already in them. Mission accomplished....done...finito.

There is nobody to shoot.

There is nobody to rebel against.

There are 100's of millions of US. There is an auditorium full of them.

Get to the point. They are NOT COMING TO GET US. They aren't. Leave that Alex Jones clap out of this discussion....it is all part of the scare tactics that control us.

We are already under control. You and I agree there.

Their game is to make us believe we are free and happy. Mission accomplished again. Look around you on the street....everybody believes this sh%$....NO KIDDING.

How could they not believe this sh%$ it is freaking generational.

You are born to parents who believe this sh%$.

It really isn't anybody's fault that they believe this sh&^ BECAUSE THERE IS NOTHING ELSE TO BELIEVE. Can you blame them? Really, how can you get mad at folks? THEY DON'T KNOW ANY BETTER.

I voted for Bush. Nobody forced me to vote for the guy. I wasn't brought to the poll in a van and forced to vote for him was I? Did some guy in a uniform un chain me so I could vote?

At the time I did not know any better. I thought Fox News was the news. I thought it was basically true stuff on there....IS THAT A CRIME?

Look at this website...posters were talking about how great Cavuto is last week. WHAT?!

I read media propaganda regurgitation here every damn day. I spend an hour a day at this site just shooting up folks who unwittingly or otherwise post LIES....I guess Murdoch needs some help at the DP...huh?

My point as it always is on this topic is simple.

I voted for Bush against Gore.

Then I started to figure stuff out. Now I know the truth and here is the point.

I DO NOT BELIEVE THE SH%$ ANYMORE!

Now I know better. I don't believe the sh%$. I don't believe it one damn bit

It will not take that many people to change it all. The only thing holding up that auditorium full of guys is a lie.

It is not guard towers and chains and barbed wire it is BULLSHIT. It is just a trick that is based on a lie.

Tell the truth. No truck needed..

Good God...anyone would suggest that there is ANYTHING more powerful than the truth?

A gun is more powerful than the truth?
Hate is more powerful than the truth?
Violence is more powerful than the truth?

I respectfully disagree. Once a person knows the truth all the guys in the auditorium are screwed because the barbed wire is just a lie and as soon as you know the truth you walk right through it....no truck needed.

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T

I think talking about the NWO is fine, but aside from sowing distrust of the government, it doesn't accomplish anything, either. Not that there is anything wrong with sowing distrust of the government.

I think there's a sense of frustration out there that could be expressed as "The hour is short---do something!". Aside from talk on the Internet, there's not much we can do. That's the reality. Those Ron Paul videos on Youtube accomplished a lot more than anyone credits to them.

Political action also accomplishes talk against the New World Order--at least if we don't become mainstream Republicans. If we become mainstream Republicans, we will become PART of the New World Order, just like Obama's brownshirts.

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Different people have different abilities. We're not going to convince some of the "inform the masses" crowd to run for County Central Committee

And we're not going to convince the "get involved with politics" crowd to simply drop it.

It's powerless crap to naysay on what others have already accomplished.

Instead of starting a thread that bashes those who are affecting change through politics, why not start a thread that offers a solution so that we can do both?

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I think this has been a topic often discussed but, seldom named. I suppose many CTs have basis in fact. The best lie is the one that's mostly true. But, is the propaganda value in the story itself or, the distraction that it causes?

The question posed in Mike's comment is the same one we always face. Do we die on our feet, live on our knees or, try to run and hide? I've lived on my knees and I don't like it. I've been living like a runaway slave ever since. I'd like to try living free. Even if I have to fight windmills.

What I think I see lacking however, is the notion of our own propaganda power. The American revolution was not won so much by Washington in battle as,Franklin and Paine at the presses. It took eight years of incessant salesmanship and just enough warfare to cost the British public support. The same has been true for the French Resistance, the North Vietnamese and now perhaps, Al-qaida. It could be true for us.

Start producing instead of consuming. Can we reduce our message to three or four easily understood issues? Produce slogans, sound-bites and talking points like the big boys do? E-mails to every site out there, letters to editors, keep the message in the public mind at all times. The way Hillary Clinton and Donna Shalala did with the phrase 'health care system'. I don't care how totalitarian the system is, nothing changes if nothing changes.

If you want to live on your knees, then quit your whining and butter your buns. If you know a good place to hide, then make room for me. But, with your writing skills and internet savvy, you could probably make better use of your time. Besides, it's boring under that rock.

Even if some people get in the political mix and try to restore morality and sense of it all they'll be presented with choices.
Any radical changes proposed will be either shut down or those who try to adhere to them will be taken out.