How are you DP folks personally affected by the recession ?

I believe if the recession becomes big enough then of course more jobs will be lost and more people will have to find creative ways to live never mind of course eat..and crime rates will increase. The purchasing of guns is on the rise for safety what not. I am spending some of my time helping the less fortunate find where there is food pantries where they can get help shelters...and being extra nice to people because recessions make people fearful...and more irritable - so I develop a "let's be a ray of sunshine persona" to help rise above this mess and give people energetic love.

starting at $18-20 per hour. Canadian Pacific is hiring in the Midwest (need at least 30). Opportuniites for overtime. Terrible hours. Decent benefits and you can easily average $50,000-$70,000 per year (at least when times are good/which they are now, for the RR's). Union. Apply on line.

The majority of engineers and conductors are men (conductor job is the most physical, in all types of weather), but there are clerk, crew caller, and dispatcher jobs with many, many women...most of them are around $20 per hour also. Casual dress and atmosphere. All shifts (24/7), that will improve with seniority.

I would guess that passenger trains may be hiring also...the ones around Chicago require 2 years of college.

How am I affected? Well... Because of the recession I've bought a gun, silver and gold and have started stock piling food.

So far, I'm more affected mentally more than anything else.

My company has cut back significantly though. No more free drinks, no more beer Fridays, no more holiday parties. 17 people were laid off this week and the company has decided on a mandatory closing between 12/24 - 01/04 in an effort to reduce the PTO liability.

So it's not yet affected me, but it could be close.

I've been very fortunate this year myself. I live in Northern CA and my company just recieved some venture funding around September before things went to hell in the economy. So my job is 'fairly' safe for quite some time financially. I really feel for all of you on here who are having a really hard time.

I'll tell you what, the government is always the problem. I was in the process of moving over a year ago from my current house to a manufactured home on property I purchased and have been hung up with county environmental concerns to the tune of about $50-$60k in lost equity that I could have sold the home for then. Not happy at all and it leaves me in a lot of long-term debt.

I just hope I can get the transition done this year before things get worse.

It seems that everyone, everywhere is feeling this crisis. It's now become a panic stemmed from Bush and Paulson with the bailouts - when everyone wants to be bailed out you ask yourself: are all these businesses insolvent?

It is probably going to get worse before it gets better. I personally have downsized on autos and other expendibles... while unfortunate for many, this may be the thing America needs to re-evaluate what's really important.

God bless you all here who support freedom and liberty.

Brock
Chico,CA

"A republic only remains free as long as the citizens harbor firearms and ammunition to defend against tyrants whose gaze for power and control of the whole mass of people knows no bounds." - Brock

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Oh on my end its quite depressing to say the least. I am not out of a job I just have a job out of state and can not manage the money. The old lady is a tard and she spends it all and can't even leave me money to do the stuff I need to do. I just found out the account is over drawn again probably the 7th time this year. I think I'll lock her out of my account but its real sad because she doesn't pay for squat and I have always carried the bills. So much for sexual equality right. What I can't understand is I always had money and even at making 110k a year she still doesn't have enough. I sure picked a winner here and if it wasn't for my daughter I'd of kicked her to the curb long ago.

and effective door reinforcement hardware once the panic sets in and burglaries and home invasions skyrocket. You can get started by stockpiling welding supplies and salvaging steel scrap. I have my eye on a big pile of chain link fence posts that were dumped illicitly. I need to go down there with my generator and a bunch of Sawzall blades and hack that stuff up into manageable lengths.

I'm presently working on another survival-related item, Burial Tubes for hiding certain possessions underground as precaution against loss by theft/confiscation: http://www.flickr.com/pho...

I also have components ready to assemble next spring for my Very Sturdy Garden Carts, which could become pretty handy in a post-apocalyptic society ;-)
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I posted earlier that my job is hanging by a thread, but in realty the longer I stay the more my retirement account suffers. I have hung on to a 40,000 dollar a year job while this year I have lost about 120,000 from my 25 yr retirement account.

I will turn in my notice tomorrow. I would love to open a barter shop, but think I will work through a local church to coordinate a Saturday (parking lot) swap lot. It will be a chance to network and prepare without county, state and federal license crap.

Found 4 other campaign for liberty people in my little town of columbia county florida. I am going to become a precent leader for CL and work as hard as I can to educate myself and others around me.

If I never touch another federal reserve note - all the better!

thank you dailypaul and of course the good DR!
!!!Truth is treason in the EMPIRE OF LIES!!!

neighbors laid off recently. A friend told me they are having lots of give backs and lay offs she is a nurse in a hospital. The economic wheel is grinding to a halt just like they want. Soon they will walk in and take what they want. Ugh!.

Ron Paul ended his presidential campaign, Burlington,VT is a pretty social/liberal minded place and their charity initiatives are being stretched thin. A recession with low gas prices though... people will continue to work and keep the economy going in Vermont for sure. People might get laid off a lot because companies think they need to cut costs when government people go around saying recession. the government announces the recession only when they want to create a panic which tightens companies and raises unemployment and then people get poor and complain about the recession. and they see that the government declares a recession and the people accept it as reality and the government as God.

I was effectively layed off. Freelance Designer for a local company. Soon after Sept. their numbers fell and they didn't have any projects available. Thus I have been out of work for about a month now. Deciding what I am going to do with life and selling that which I don't need.

I would like to farm, but need to acquire the wealth in order to buy land outright without debt.

You may want to take a course in how to identify gold, silver platinum and palladium. Then when the dollar crashes you can get a job verifying what is real and what isn't. It may be the job of the future if people start trading in real money again.
grant

..we are not so effected as of yet.

Mind you, there are more shops than normal 'for lease' and a goodly number of houses 'for sale' but the day to day life hums along here. No one living in tents in the parks, or under overpasses... no one eating the family pets.

I own my own construction business and have been busy almost everyday. A little slow now this past week after Thanksgiving. It will slow again before Christmas. I consider these times my 'holidays'.

The rumblings are evident, though. I and everyone else I know knows at least one person who is out of work, losing their house, leaving the state, etc. due to the poor economy.

The area I'm in is upper-middle class or better - a class I truly stand out in with my work van and Ron Paul flag. They humor me. I challenge them. But it wasn't always that way...

In the year 2000, I was laid off from my computer job. I was 40 years old (it was, in fact, my birthday) and completely blindsided. The things that are being spoken of here, I have already gone through. Unemployment, pizza delivery and making your wife pick up extra days is an awfully humbling thing after 15 years in the industry.

With no prospects of work (even fewer after 9/11) I began to take hardwood flooring jobs on the side. Before long, I was getting more flooring jobs than I interviews. The writing on the wall was clear. I bought a van and started full-time and never looked back.

Most of the folks around here don't remember me from those days. Newer transplants from other areas know me only as the flooring guy with the Ron Paul signs.

Business is still good for me here but it's only a matter of time. Once the heavy stuff comes down the pipe for the big home owners, more eyes will be pried open. Till then, I've found that there is no sense talking to those people. Even the smarter ones who agree with Dr. Paul's message would not vote for him because he was 'unelectable'.

I don't think it will be too much longer before they wished they had listened. Too late, though. Spilt milk.

So, I've got enough for winter... I still need a sh*tload of firewood (anyone?)in case the power goes out.. but I'll keep working up to, and maybe slightly into, any depression. After that, hopefully spring will bring a new hope.

Best of luck to you all.

I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...

Just last week. Thank you banksters.

If you go to the NC_ESC site
Click Find a Job..then look for 2. Where would you like to work? and pick option C....use a zip code..(mine is 28043) and pick the miles (50 miles covers my area..Asheville-Charlotte-Gastonia-Hickory-upper SC)
Jobs are paying between 6.50 to 15.00 an hour. Rent where I live goes between 250.00mth-850.00mth..just depending if your in the country..town..closer to the mountains.

To: jkm1864
I feel for you hon..My husband loves to spend and pulling him back was hard but..I managed....sometimes he sneaks something past me.
When you get home you might have to tell your wife cut up the credit cards...look in her closet..if it still has tags..it goes back.
If you still have a bank account..fix it to where 1/3 of your py goes in a joint account..1/3 in an account the house payment/car payments come out of..and the last 1/3 for yourself to save.
When you get home..make out a budget...tell her she can spend maybe 25.00 a week on herself and thats it...You might have to tell her..follow the plan...or pack up....she wants to drown and is hell bent on it..as much as you might love her..no need for you to drown too.
Good luck
And be safe

Freedom is another way to God...A corrupt government is a straight way to hell.

My pay was cut about 10% on my last paycheck. It seems that everyone who was making over a certain amount got a cut. I don't live paycheck-to-paycheck, though, so I think I'll be alright. Hopefully some of these prospects turn into orders.

Been offshore for over 7 weeks so far and hoping to go home on the 9th for a measly 2 weeks off. I have been working like mad considering all the crap that is going on and the dream of time off is just that a dream. I talked to my boss and We are still turning down work and short on employees. The pay isn't like it used to be with the rising costs of everything but I can't complain to bad because I will end up making 2.5 times what the average family makes in my area. My old lady can't control her spending though and I am always worrying about being broke. My friends tell Me I need to take control and I am like how I am on a boat while she is at the mall. I sure hope she sees the righting on the wall and starts to save but thats a pipe dream. I really feel for some of You because I know how it feels but most of us are in the same boat. I would recommend to some of the young guys to move to the south and get your butts offshore. Everyone is still going to need electricity and thats not going to change so the work will hopefully still be around.

And am positioning myself for the future. Making lots of offers on Foreclosed Homes!

I am very blessed in that we were warned of what was coming in 1979 to our country by our pastor, so we started preparing then, so we sold our new house and bought an older house that is secluded in the country, which we could pay cash for, my husband, who is now deceased worked and remodeled it, added a wood stove since we have plenty of trees around us for extra heat if needed, my son and I just built a "guest house" out back last year, we have probably gone overboard in stock piling, but I wanted to be sure there was enough for all 4 of my children and grandbabies, and anyone that needed help also, my kids tease me and say I have a great "bomb shelter" but now they are understanding and glad that the preparations are made, we have purchased the usual, food, protection ....including 3 good dogs, garden seeds, tiller, plow, water pump and filter, canning equipment, more protection, more protection, and more protection....extra finances..precious metals...lol....I would encourage all you to get Holly and Stan Deyo's book, "Dare to Prepare" it has a wealth of practical info in it.....few more things I would like to get when I get the time to order them. Sort of ironic that in the early 80's we started praying for God to send us a leader to get us out of this mess, and expose the criminal activity in our leadership, I only wish that we as a people would have been prepared and ready to receive Dr. Paul's message back then, when we were younger and so was he. but now so many people are waking up and preparing and working to try and save our country. I am getting too old to fight as you guys are doing but I salute each of you for all the work you do and I will continue to do what I am capable of doing. God have Mercy on all of us for the future looks frightening.

For the last 18 or so years that I've been employed, I've always worked 60-70 hours a week. If you want to make it you have to give 200%. While I am lucky I still have a job, I don't feel lucky. I feel like I've earned where I am at by hard work and less play. The world is hard and if you work hard for it, you'll be one of the few standing. People that are on this site and they are looking for work, it's probably not the best use of your time. Every morning, you should be out on the street at 8am until 5pm looking for a job. Being a waiter or a waitress is pretty bad right now, people aren't tipping.

Some things you can do quickly to get started: Start a carpet cleaning business, put ads on craigslist and rent a cleaner until you can buy one yourself. Line up 3-4 jobs and then go rent it. You can make $300 a day if you do it right. Maybe more.

House cleaning is another business that provides decent money as long as you have a good appearance and no criminal record (people will check).

Do odd jobs for people, cut grass, landscaping, plant trees, look for new houses with no tress. Go to a small nursery and ask them if you can work as their sales rep. You go to new homes, people trying to sell houses that have crappy landscaping and tell them they need to fix the curb appeal up. People will do almost anything to get out of their homes. You get paid comission by the nursery and for planting tress/bushes, etc. Win win.

Just some ideas, but those are things almost anyone can do. Get motivated, have a positive attitude and you'll do well. My mom is in real estate as several others here, she has the same work ethic as I do. Despite being 58, she's out there every day and doing extra stuff to make her houses sell. She sells $1,000,000+ homes. She'll clean the house herself, fix minor things just so the houses are more presentable. Put in the extra effort.

And hey, for the people who are doing all they can do and still can't get a job, then I'm very sorry for you. Things are bad. Keep positive, things will come your way.

Here's some tips to save money right now:
1. If you have your own health insurance and are paying a lot, drop your deductible to like $5000 and 80/20 co-insurance. Especially if you are healthy. I saved $500 a month doing this.

2. Buy food in bulk, make less trips to the store, make soups, crock pot meals you can eat off of for days. Stews and Chicken noodles is a great food that is inexpensive to make. $15 will last you 5-6 days. Also, go to the grocery store EARLY or very late at night. They mark down meats they want to sell fast.

3. Plan trips out in a logical way. Don't keep stopping at home. Do it all at one trip. Go to Walmart, they have everything. hah

4. Drop your cable, buy a HD antenna and you can get a lot of free channels. Go in with your neighbor to share internet costs. It's easy to run wireless or a cable between you :) ( I didn't tell you to do this, wink :) You can watch many popular tv shows online now, the next day.

5. Turn off your lights! People always leave their lights on. Drives me crazy.You can decrease your power bill by 20-30%.

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Stock up, it's gonna be a long winter.

I was laid off for the second time this year a month ago here in Detroit. I seen this coming for almost year now and yet did not make enough money to save. My last job I had to take an 80% pay cut.. And work just as hard, if not harder. Not sure how I'll make it threw all this, but I can only hope I do.

- SyphonMedia

Construction has slowed to a snail's pace in my area and that explains why I've been posting here so much recently.
I remember when the phone was ringing off the hook for new estimates. It still rings off the hook but now it's just computer generated phone solicitors.

I'm well prepared though. No worries here.

I'm probably older than most on these boards (40). I live in a gated neighborhood in my city's nicest suburb. My kids go to private school and I've had a great income for years. My state's finances are on the ropes (CA), which is leading to counties, cities, schools and other public entities (my customer base) to make major changes. Not sure yet how it will affect me, but I'm pretty sure it will.

Parents at my kids' school are losing their jobs with no place to go. I have a buddy who is an auto dealer attorney with 300 clients and is freaking out every time one calls to say they are closing.

The thing is, we are not near the bottom with unemployment. Things will be scary then.

just got laid off their jobs within a month of each other. One of them packed up 5 suitcases and flew 1,500 miles to stay with her sister to look for work in a larger city after a month of zero responses to applications and resumes. She is on family welfare, which makes it nearly impossible for mom and dad to continue to prepare for what's coming down the pike, although she has found a minimum wage Christmas season part time retail position. She has an interview today for a real job with benefits, but there are probably dozens of other applicants who have actual experience in this field, not just a B.S degree. The other one, who is now sharing her bed with sis has had to apply for unemployment and will be looking into food stamps until she can get some money coming in. Luckily she had some savings to fall back on for a couple of months. The entire family's upward (financial) trajectory has foundered (thankfully Husband's job is still lucrative and strong), hopefully only temporarily.

One other thing.....as of yesterday the apartment building that our kids are living in has 3/4 of the units with one or all of the renters on unemployment.

I have been lucky but others around me have been effected greatly. My dad lost his six-figure job in April and is still jobless even after a relentless job search. He is in the commercial real estate market and that industry has been rocked. They will probably end up loosing their house and possibly filing for bankruptcy unless something dramatic happens. My stepmom got a part time job as a waitress but it just isn't enough. Many of their friends have lost their jobs.

I graduated college in May and I'm lucky to have a job right now. Albeit a job that I don't particularly like or want, but I am very fortunate as most all of my classmates are currently unemployed. I have been frantically paying off my credit card debt, which I have succeeded at, so my only debt are my student loans.

It's going to get much worse from here on out, and I try to prepare people around me but it's hard because they dismiss me like I'm a pessimist or fear monger. That is obviously not the case but as with everything, people like to turn a blind eye instead of facing the cold hard truth.

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Got laid off three weeks ago. Luckily I've been saving and stocking up. I can hang for a while. I'd have been in a lot worse shape were it not for Dr. Paul and the good people here at the DP.

I blew out my shoulder a while back and was on disability. When I got back the company I was with dissolved after 24 years. Now Myself my brother and his kids and our folks all live back together again. Going to have to work as a team to make it through all this. I guess I'll be doing tree work, repair work on houses or cars, We all can sing you a song or dance a jig for ya.

"I don't want to be in a battle . . . but
waiting on the edge of one I can't escape
is even worse"

The company I was working for was starting to lay people off and I had just broken up with my girlfriend a few monthes before that. So I moved in with my family in Colorado and am very happy with the decision. I have a low cost of living but still have college loans to clear up.

I got a good job at around 13.5 an hour and the economy here was doing really well due to the oil field work that was booming, but due to the drop in gas prices some of the companies are not paying their employees so there is a big legal battle going on.

I also design clothes so I am doing that on the side but I am not making any profit from it. I probably won't until the foreign currencies realize the dollar isn't worth anything and we have to become more dependant on local manufacturing.

I am a software engineer who has worked in the manufacturing industry since I graduated college in 2001. I just accepted a job in a totally different industry today because the place I am working at has layed off 25% of its force and is getting ready to lay off another 30% before the end of the year. The job I am moving to pays $2000 less per year and food is so dang expensive for me and my family that the prospects of moving to a smaller home are starting to become a reality. This is a very depressing time for the world in general I think.

I might make it another year, but it doesn't look like it. I was thinking last night about opening up a "Swap Shop" a place where you could bring in unwanted items, or things you make, grow etc and swap it. No money changes hands, but would have to charge a membership fee or something to pay the rent.... and provide an income.

!!!Truth is treason in the EMPIRE OF LIES!!!