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Mumbai was india's 911 False Flag Op created by Zionists but they botched it.

A renowned Pakistani strategic defence analyst has described last week’s terrorist attacks in Mumbai as a “botched” false flag operation designed to imitate the 9/11 attacks on the United States.

Zaid Hamid, a security consultant who routinely appears on Pakistani television, told reporters of the News One channel that the attacks were state sponsored by Indian military intelligence and carried out by Hindu zionists aided by Mossad, the Israeli intelligence agency.

Hamid contends that the motive is to shift attention away from India’s domestic terrorists, and to justify Western intervention in Pakistan.

“They look like Hindus. No Pakistani speaks the language they chatted in,” said Hamid , claiming that the attackers wore saffron Hindu Zionist wrist bands.

“The Americans executed the 9/11 attack perfectly.” Hamid continued. “They managed the media very well. The Indians tried to repeat the formula but goofed up. The idiots made a complete mess of it,” he argued.

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More evidence of CIA-backed syndicate involvement in Mumbai

(WMR) -- WMR’s Asian intelligence sources have provided additional information on the wave of terrorist attacks in Mumbai.

Under pressure from Washington, this past May Pakistan’s Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gillani cut a secret deal with the United States and India to turn over to Delhi a number of residents of Pakistan wanted by India for terrorism. One of those included in the deal was the CIA’s erstwhile asset, Mumbai-born Dawood Ibrahim, a veteran of CIA operations in Afghanistan during the mujahedin war against the Soviets.

Ibrahim, according to our sources, has been under the protection of Pakistan’s Inter Service Intelligence (ISI) intelligence agency since June. He is being protected in Quetta, near the Waziristan tribal region. The CIA is fearful that if Ibrahim is deported to India, RAW and Russia’s Vladimir Putin will obtain the entire dossier on the CIA’s sponsorship of criminal activities and terrorist attacks. ISI would prefer Ibrahim to move to the United Arab Emirates, perhaps Dubai, where he has extensive financial interests. Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari is a business rival of Ibrahim and the ISI would like Ibrahim to be at a distance from Pakistan’s president and “settle scores” with his old “allies” and new enemies in Langley from outside Pakistani territory.

Ibrahim is reportedly using his gangland “muscle” in India to send a clear message to Delhi and Washington that he is a force to be reckoned with. The son of a Bombay (Mumbai) police constable who, himself, dabbled in organized criminal activity, Ibrahim has his informants and agents peppered throughout the Indian police, India’s Research and Analysis Wing (RAW), and Pakistan’s ISI. Ibrahim also knows a great deal about the CIA’s operations on the subcontinent, including having the “goods” on the CIA’s “Afghanist” agents, as well as agency veterans of Kathmandu who dabbled in personal loans from Ibrahim to pay off gambling debts, personal favors for the CIA, highly sought after prostitutes, and drugs. Many of these veterans of Nepal are now senior analysts and operational personnel at CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia.

The CIA has every reason to blame the Mumbai attacks on a coterie of “Islamist” groups, including Lashkar-e-Taiba, “Al Qaeda,” and a new group called “Deccan Mujahedin.” If the media takes a closer look at Ibrahim they will find links to Langley and that is something neither the CIA nor Pakistan or India wants to see happen lest other “dirty laundry” also comes to the forefront. Ibrahim’s joint casino interests with the CIA in Kathmandu apparently involves money laundering for top Indian politicians in New Delhi, as well as some of India’s more well-known “Bollywood” actors.

Indian police are now reporting they have seven small boats in their custody that were used by the Mumbai terrorists to sail from Pakistan to the Indian coast. WMR has learned the boats in question are inflatables used by Ibrahim’s commandos who landed on the Mumbai seafront from Karachi with AK-47s and walked down the sidewalk into the lobbies of 5-star hotels and simply opened fire. Part of Ibrahim’s motive is not only to send a message to Washington, London, and Delhi that he will not be traded in a double-cross engineered by the CIA but also to send a warning to the extremist Hindu Shiv Sena terrorist gang that he is not ceding Mumbai’s gangland turf to Shiv Sena without a fight.

Ibrahim also sent a warning message to Israel by seizing Chabad House in Mumbai, reportedly a haven for right-wing Jewish Orthodox groups and Israeli military “trainers” who pose as backpackers on holiday in Kashmir during their reconnaissance missions.

Apparently, the Israelis’ uncouth behavior toward Kashmiri locals, including cheating taxi drivers and lodges, became known to Ibrahim who figured he could also take advantage of his assault on Mumbai to teach the Israelis a couple of lessons. The Israelis are in Kashmir to train Indians on their side of the India-Pakistan Kashmiri Line of Control. The Israelis maintain a military training facility, known as the Ibex Center, outside of Leh, the capital of Ladakh. There, the Israelis train Tibetan exiles and local Buddhist soldiers who serve in the Ladakh Scouts, the mountain commandos who patrol the Indian side of the Line of Control and the Siachen Glacier. Also trained by the Israelis is the “Tibetan Army,” the Indian Army unit also known as the Special Frontier Force. The training takes place at the Mussorie parajump base in northern India. Kashmiri separatists claim Israeli trainers have served with Tibetan commandos in putting down insurgencies in Assam and Manipur in northeastern India.

The Israelis began operating out of Chabad House after receiving a contract in 1996, a year after a group of Western tourists were captured by militants in Kashmir. A Norwegian was beheaded in the incident. The attack was condemned by every mujahedin group in Kashmir and Pakistan. Some blamed Israelis for the kidnapping of the Westerners in exchange for the security contract and the use of Indian Air Force bases in Jammu, part of the Indian state of Jammu and Kashmir. The Jammu bases are within a 20-minute striking range of Pakistan’s nuclear facilities and missile bases. Pakistani ISI alleges that Israeli fighter bombers at the Jammu bases are disguised with false Indian markings and are armed with nuclear weapons.

WMR’s Asian intelligence sources report that Chabad Houses are fronts for Israeli military intelligence and Mafia activities in other Asian cities. In Bangkok, Israeli military pilots and drivers who stay at the Chabad House there train Thai Army commandos, divers, and pilots who are fighting a Muslim secessionist movement along the southern border with Malaysia. Bangkok police have long suspected Chabad House as a center for the Israeli Mafia, which runs its Ecstasy and Ice trade from Bangkok for all of Southeast and East Asia. The Israeli Mafia also reportedly runs heroin labs in Myanmar, where an Israeli military officer serves in Myanmar’s feared military counter-intelligence agency.

By torching the Taj Mahal Palace hotel in Mumbai, Ibrahim has also earned a few extra points with Pakistan’s government. The Taj Mahal is owned by the Taj Group, an enterprise of the multi-billionaire Tata family of India. Tata stands to make a fortune from the U.S.-India nuclear technology sharing pact as a defense supplier for India’s future modernized nuclear arsenal. The targeting of the Tata-owned hotel was a stark warning, via Ibrahim’s gang, that America will pay dearly for backing India’s expanded nuclear ambitions. And for that, Islamabad obviously looked the other way as Ibrahim’s men deployed to Mumbai by sea from Karachi.

A nation which has forgotten the quality of courage which in the past has been brought to public life is not as likely to insist upon or regard that quality in its chosen leaders today - and in fact we have forgotten.
John F. Kennedy

But

CondomLizzy has promised to work very closely with India to help them see the light.

because people aren't buying that shit anymore

it's like killing JFK worked for a while. But it woke up millions who otherwise trusted their government.

9/11 worked for a while but now look how many people don't trust the gov.

Does anybody know if there

Does anybody know if there were Christians or Muslims involved in this zionist attack?

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What about Jews?

Why is that not part of your question?

WAHOR!!
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Rhino...LOL

I was wondering how long before this got 'Megaphoned'

BTW...the Zion-owned US State Dept put out a memo to deal with those telling the truth...

http://paktribune.com/new...

US wants four ex-ISI officials declared terrorists including Hameed Gul

Thursday December 04, 2008

[...]The Pakistan embassy in Washington is not in the know of this move. Pak envoy to US Hussain Haqqani, when contacted, said he had no comment to offer as no such thing was routed through the Pakistani embassy.

However, another diplomatic source there confided to this correspondent that the US State Department had formally conveyed to the UN Security Council four to five names of former ISI officials, including Lt-Gen (retd) Hamid Gul, for inclusion in the list of international terrorists under Resolution 1267 of the Security Council.

In such a situation, those enlisted in this list of bad guys will be prevented from travelling outside the country of their residence while their assets would also be monitored and even frozen at times.

Lou Fintor, the US embassy spokesman, when contacted also said the embassy did not know anything about this. He said if this was true, then such a thing would have been dealt by the State Department and taken up directly with the UN there in Washington.[...]

Hamid Gul, for those who don't remember, was the only intel chief to publicly tell the truth about 9/11. He was former Western nation ally...

I am unclear of your message ...

Could you clarify?

WAHOR!!
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He's calling you a SHILL

Which of course you are, but what's new.

OH and for the Record.. Steve Watson wrote the piece... He works for infowars.

It now makes more since.

LOL

I've always known you were a shill.

AJ is trying to hijack the freedom movement by ...

selling hate and preaching about the evils of power ...

If he succeeds, we will fail.

WAHOR!!
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So Rhino Alex Exposing Who The Real Force Behind The Mumbai

Attacks (Mossad) makes him a seller of hate now does it???

Why don't you crawl back under the slimy rock you slithered out from???
You can't stop the truth you you.....Bootlicker

Revolt For Freedom !!!

Yes

does he really think Mossad would intentionally attack the Jewish quarter in Mumbay as well? I mean they would avoid killing Jews at all costs, if they do kill Jews in the way, then it would be unintentionally. It just does not make any sense to say Mossad was behind it.

Yes, indeed AJ always put his own spin to things

forget about the 911 conspiracy and look at the economic crisis. Paul predicted this for years, and AJ accuse the Fed of orchestrating this situation. I would rather say they tried to avoid the problem, or deny it - the problem that Paul saw coming - but cannot avoid it and did the wrong thing about every time.

But I have also read those that say the Mumbai attacks means the Muslims hate Western values! Well, in India there are Asian values, not Western values. I have been to Kolkota and Guwarti, so I know a bit.

I know a guy

from India. He lives here now but was just back from a visit there and i asked him what it was like there and he said it was pretty much just like here. Just thought I'd comment. That was before all of this. I asked him a couple days ago what the gun laws were there and he said he didn't really know. He had just gone back there recently for the first time in 14 years and he's only 27.

Hindu Zionists?

How can a peaceable Hindu also be a bloodthirsty Zionist?

Believe it or not, India has a sizeable Jewish population

That looks Indian.

Some have even migrated to Israel.

Is it possible to be a Hindu Jew?

I think you missed the point of the post.

WAHOR!!
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You Twit.

He pointed out that Jewish people live in India.. Just like Jewish People live in the US. Not all are Buddist. I think you missed the short bus today.

Let me quote from the OP ...

“They look like Hindus. No Pakistani speaks the language they chatted in,” said Hamid , claiming that the attackers wore saffron Hindu Zionist wrist bands.

WAHOR!!
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Well you're a Catholic Zionist.

and Like I've said before.. Zionism isn't a Religion so much as it is a political stance. Zionsist actually took Jewish names to hide their real blood line. Ashkenazim

Not sure what that has to do with the price of oranges ...

but let me say for the record ...

I am not a zionist.

As a matter of fact ...

I have been trending towards being against zionism as defined in today's society for some time.

A Catholic, I am.

A devout Catholic, I also am.

One who appreciates all opinions, I am as well.

WAHOR!!
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Boy you sure do defend

Every aspect that shows Zionism, 9/11, Controlled Media by 5 Zionists, Attacking any one or thing with the term Antisemantic - or Bigorty.

You know I don't see you getting this upset when people talk about Muslims or Mormons for that matter.

So yeah .. You're a shill.

One other thing ...

I have never defended zionism ...

But I always defend the rights of a zionist advocate.

Can you see the difference?

WAHOR!!
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Your ass.

Evil is the immature choosing and the unthinking misstep of those who are resistant to goodness, rejectful of beauty, and disloyal to truth.

You defend them.. Maybe you're too stupid to realize it or playing dumb.

LOL again ...

Can you define goodness?

Because if you meant freedom, you have a different definition than I.

WAHOR!!
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Talking about my deceased father.

To get under my skin.. Dosen't classify as goodness.

You evil fuck.

LOL ...

Look inward if you wish to play the blame game. That is why I rarely if ever play that game.

WAHOR!!
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A simple apology would have

Sufficed.. You show your true colors by laughing. Thanks for pointing out once again your arrogance and pompus strife to attack me with your apparent evil.

Using deceased family members to push your agenda.. It really is sad.

The ultimate truth is christ consciousness which is only experienced in the now and can only be felt as unconditional love.

You fail at this miserably. Mr. Devout Christian.

You help me point you out.. I have my role.. I'll meditate for your understanding of this..

HMMM ...

Well I must say that I never "pushed" anything ...

having said that ...

I have apologized and if you missed it ...

I am sorry if I hit too deep ...

I take that back ...

I am sorry unconditionally ...

WAHOR!!
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I am not sure if I even have seen a post here ...

attacking muslims.

As for mormons, I was one of the leaders attacking the state against the FLDS issue.

As a matter of fact, I recall being willing to sacrifice my life for the cause regarding the FLDS. When it comes to children, no sacrifice is too large.

WAHOR!!
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Thank you for making my point.

Idiot. On one hand you'll call people bigots for claiming anything talked about that might relate to Zionist Bigotry yet you'll defend FLDS kids.. People weren't talking bad about them.. People were defending them.

LOL

When you are sober read this mini thread again and try not to break your skull when you bang it against the wall.

WAHOR!!
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Mormons and Zionists.

One group thinks they are the Chosen ones and Control the Banks the media and every thing about The U.S.. and another thinks polygamy is okay. I'm solber. You're missing the point. I'm done. Conversation over.

LOL

When you say "Chosen ones" are you referring to zionists or jews?

Make sure you are able to adequately hide your bigotry if you wish to do so.

WAHOR!!
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oruval that....

Bootlicker couldn't meet the minimum qualifications for the short bus...plus the other riders would kick his ass for sure.

Revolt For Freedom !!!

No, not all are Buddhist.

Most are Hindu, or Sikh.

True.

Budda was from northern India near Pakistan. But thanks for showing even further that their is more than one religion in India.

http://www.india-travel-a...

Not sure about this guy.

There's some discrepancies here.

Hamid states that Karkare was killed along with two others within the first 5 minutes of the attack. By several initial ground reports that night, he was killed 90 minutes after his arrival and he was not at the Taj Mahal Palace, but the Albless Hospital. Here's one. http://www.dnaindia.com/r...

Next, he asserts that the US "wishes to eliminate Pakistan’s nuclear facilities which are seen as a direct threat to Israel’s sovereignty."

This makes no sense. While it is no secret that Israel welcomes muslims about as much as a fart in a space suit, this is not a viable argument. Israel is situated too close to Syria, Egypt and Saudi Arabia- friends and benefactors of Pakistan. Were they to light Israel up, the fallout would hammer them too and seriously piss off a lot of others in the area. Shitting in your friend's backyard is not a good idea.

And of course the obvious- Pakistan hates India and Israel with a vengeance: of course he's going to pin it on them. India is doing the same thing. If this guy is a security analyst, remind me not to contract with him.

My honest assessment of this mess is that when two sides have been fighting long enough, both sides will develop assets and hop each other's fence. My guess is that Pakistan's factional muscle likely pulled this stunt, and they had Hindu nationalists from one of the internal factions as ground intel to show them where and how to hit. Rule 1 of tactical espionage- develop a local asset to plan a hit. Could there be other influences? Possibly.

The Northwestern factions in Pakistan made their name during Kashmir and had the ability to do the hit, and the hindu groups had the motivation to coups their current government, and they had the know-how and the layout, but not enough muscle. The common ground both factions share are a desire to destabilize their respective nations because of government policy. A quid-pro-quo for a mutual cause makes much more sense to me than bringing in pieces from all sorts of different puzzles and trying to fit them together.

It seems to me that both India and Pakistan had a hand in this and neither side wants to admit to internal security problems for public and political reasons, nor does either side want to be the bad guy so they're using the liar-liar pants on fire defense.

In the end, it really doesn't matter who did what; the ramifications of this will result in the same outcome. This has royally screwed up the geopolitical atmosphere because everyone has a scapegoat, and it will probably result in another standoff similar to Kashmir. Let's hope they both forget where the red button is.

Very interesting

and of course, no surprise.