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It's time for an Income Tax revolt!

Before addressing other issues, I believe we should aim for elimination of the Income Tax. By any means necessary.

The American public is now ready for a tax revolt. A year ago, I did not think the general public could swallow the idea of freedom from income taxation. After the economic crisis and bailout, they are ready.

We can debate what to do with tariffs in the context of eliminating the Income Tax. I favor the tradeoff of More Tariffs vs. No Income Tax, if such a tradeoff is necessary. The people may need some sort of psychological crutch that incoming federal revenue is mandatory, because not all Americans favor small government. But no matter how it's broached, the Income Tax needs to go--and during an economic depression is the perfect time to propose it.

What should we do to promote this issue..? It's time.

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Guest Speaker

Ask to be a guest speaker at your counties high schools. Those kids will soon be off to get jobs
Check with radio talk shows..Ask to come in and talk about the government
Town hall meetings..Make a motion the entire town stop paying income tax because its illegal
Flyers...Talk to your preacher...Show him/her the truth...show them how the gov. is acting like its Ceaser and what must be done. Pass out flyers...Leave a few put up on boards where ever you can
Message boards..tv and radio stations have them..find them and start posting
Take up a collection...Put up an add....100.00 top prize to the student who can do (no less) than a 5 minute film on why the Federal Reserve/IRS is against the Constitution
Got a dog? Make a sign..when you walk the dog..the dog has the sign (cloth works) over its back..

Freedom is another way to God...A corrupt government is a straight way to hell.

Freedom is another way to God...A corrupt government is a straight way to hell.

There is nothing illegal or

There is nothing illegal or unconstitutional with the income tax... except that it is simply misapplied- it does not apply to the vast majority of private-sector workers; sadly most people have never actually read Title 26 (Federal income tax law) and only listen to their friendly CPA or H and R Block specialist (of course they benefit greatly from the ignorance of the sheeple) or worse yet- simply read the 1040 instruction booklet thinking it is applicable to them...

HOLD YOUR SERVANT GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTABLE TO THE RULE OF LAW and file your income tax correctly- You probably don't owe ANY tax... I have filed properly since 2003.

www.losthorizons.com

And I'm NOT ALONE:
http://www.losthorizons.com/tax/MoreVictories.htm

Thank you ...you are not alone!

Libera me, let the truth break, what my fears make--Leslie Phillips

We do not need to get good laws to restrain bad people,
we need to get good people to restrain bad laws. --
--G.K. Chesterton

BUT WE HAVE TO EDUCATE FIRST - Baltimore & Philly coming up

The people may be ready, but without education on the issues, by someone who understands the law, the people only end up hurt and alone -- we must have more people who understand HOW TO ATTACK, and what the issues really are. That's why attending a seminar like Truth Attack's is so important -- and once you learn from a person who is already in "revolt," you will be better equipped to understand what we have to do!

Please pass this information out to everyone who can reach Baltimore or Philadelphia on the 31st or the 1st, respectively!

(To register for the following event, please visit www.truthattack.org, click on appropriate date under “Upcoming Mini-Sems).

This is an exciting (mini)Seminar on the basics of the Personal Income Tax and a multi-media plan to save our Republic.

Hear Louisiana’s acclaimed Attorney Tommy Cryer tell how the IRS falsely accused and tried to silence him, but a jury acquitted him!

January 31st in BALTIMORE (Days Inn)!
February 1st in PHILADELPHIA (Sheraton Suites Airport)!

Patriots of all stripes are encouraged to attend — this is a perfect opportunity to introduce friends and relatives to the burning issues that affect every American!

Registration is $39 per person, $49 at the door.
Add $15 to register your spouse, if you are a married couple.
Add $15 to registration for each hard copy of the 168-page “notorious notebook” desired.(Notebooks will be $25 at the door)

Tommy Cryer will cover:

“No Good Deed Goes Unpunished” — The background story that led to Tom’s having to face off in court against the most powerful and dangerous organization in the world, including the inside scoop on what happened behind the scenes leading up to the trial. It will make you laugh and cry.

“The Notorious Notebook” — Tom tells the story of why the notebook he relied on during the trial has become “notorious” and goes through some of the authorities and Supreme Court decisions the government would like everyone to forget about. Tom also demonstrates Larry Becraft’s powerful searchable research tool.

“The Truth Attack Plan” — Putting the government back in its box, one tentacle at a time. Tom will present a multi-media run through of TA’s plan to put an end to the IRS’s thefts — the legal front, the political front, and the popular front, including support forces such as Liberty Works Radio Network, and how and why it will work without putting patriots at risk. Find your role in saving our country from our government, and our government from itself.

These one-day seminars are excellent opportunities for you to help spread the truth (or to learn more about it yourself!) Bring a friend, relative, co-worker or neighbor who does not know the truth or who has proven skeptical. No need to argue, prove or persuade — this seminar will do that for you!

give up your social security

give up your social security number, and you are done with the IRS!

obviously, it's a little more than that. but that is the first step.
I declared to the IRS in 2004 that I was not subject to taxation by submitting a W-0 (federally privileged status form) and they sent me a "closing notice" and left me alone!

The IRS is actually NOT breaking any laws*, because THEY have you listed as a "Federal Employee" who is LEGALLY required to file!

send them this, and see if they have your address as something like this.
"123 main st.
Miami FL,
Virgin Islands"

http://famguardian.org/TaxFreedom/Forms/Discovery/FOIAReqFor...

http://famguardian.org/TaxFreedom/Instructions/0.8ObtAndAnal...

Interesting.

I will take a look at it further.

A tax revolt has been going on for decades now, with

varying degrees of participation, support and effect. With respect to the income tax revolt, one can go back and read the exploits of folks like Art Porth, Vivien Kellums, Marvin Cooley and even Peter Schiff's dad Irwin Schiff (there are a host of others who deserve mention for their efforts and sacrifice) in order to get an understanding of the growth of the movement and the responses that were brought about in various federal statutes and court rulings.

In some ways, the effects have been to cause the government (legislature, executive, courts) to institute ever more restrictive laws and regulations. Most of our fellow citizens, living their lives in voluntary ignorance of the causes and effects of the movement, see only more restrictive laws (always presented ostensibly as tools to shutdown various illegal operations such as drug traffic and, lately, terrorist activities) and, generally, have reacted with not too much more than a grumble here and there about something being generally "wrong" with government, but not able to piece together all of the underlying factors of cause and effect.

Around tax filing time every year, the IRS and their operatives in the MSM will start their voluntary compliance dragooning operations (PR/scare campaign) in order to use the reputation of the IRS to frighten as many citizens as possible into voluntarily compliance with government commandments; commandments which, if resisted by a relatively small percentage of citizens, would bring about the collapse of the entire system. Even for those who choose not to actively participate in such an undertaking (and it *is* an undertaking), there is an educational possibility, concomitant with the tax revolt movement, that should not be underestimated. Once people discover how and why the system works the way it does, they tend not to "unlearn" it. Even non-participants can become allies........and some of them are likely to receive a jury summons down the road.
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"An economy built on fiat money is a society on its way to ashes."

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"An economy built on fiat money is a society on its way to ashes."

Education must come first

But how can a revolt, revolution, or revival happen without the people being educated? How the IRS works and the dirty tricks they employ must first be learned. Good strategies must be created in order to beat the IRS. Actually, how the IRS works and how to beat them is all explained at seminars held by Louisiana's acclaimed attorney Tommy Cryer. In 2006 Mr. Cryer, a lawyer for over 35 years, was charged by the federal government with failing to file income tax returns. In spite of the government’s (and the judge’s) efforts to keep the actual law out of the courtroom, Tom was able to show the jury that his study of the law had led him to conclude that his right to earn a living was not taxable by the U.S. government. Tommy Cryer, who had not filed 1040 Income Tax Returns for many years, was acquitted by the jury. Since then he's been traveling the country holding seminars where he introduces & explains his "Notorious Notebook", discusses the strategy he used at his trial to beat the dirty tricks of the IRS, and reveals a new plan to expose and get rid of IRS Corruption and save our Republic.

Two of these seminars will be held on Jan 31st and Feb 1st.
www.truthattack.org for more info
Saturday January 31st in Baltimore, MD
10 AM to 4 PM, with break for lunch
Q&A session follows.
Days Inn, 5701 Baltimore National Pike (Route 40, Exit 15A), Catonsville, MD
Just off I-695
Sunday, February 1st in Philadelphia, PA
1PM to 6PM
Q&A session follows
Sheraton Suites, 4101 Island Ave, Philadelphia, PA
Just off I-95

Fear stops only cowards.

Why everyone that believes the income tax is fraudulent put there bodies where their mouth heart is?

Organized mass surrenders in front of congressional offices when the congreesman/woman is present would force them to relaize how many working people the government would have to start supporting. add to that the lost revenue in the market place and maybe the light might come on.

If huge crowds of people all over the country offered themselves to go to jail for not paying their income tax, and demanded that their congressman files the charges, and do the paper work necessary to avoid an expensive trial and give them a go directly to jail card, then reality might set in.
1) How could they refuse?
2) If they refuse, then we have a right to demand they release all the patriots who were sent to prison because they knew they did not owe an income tax. (let the ones who thought they owed, but cheated stay in)

I know this is crazy, but what do you think? Got any other ideas. At least we would have three meals a day, wouldn't have to work, free digital TV, rent free room, nobody to visit you unless you approve, etc.

I still don't know how

you can do that if you have a job and they take taxes out of your paycheck. Where my husband works you even have to do direct deposit. can't even get your check in your hand.

Can we

be cell mates? I don't want to be alone with real criminals. ;)
Sound like an Idea. But who would pay our bills take care kids/animals ect...?

I like it. There would have

I like it. There would have to be millions of people, a couple hundred would go to jail for sure.

this would be the one thing

this would be the one thing that would get Washingtons attention! Problem is it would have to be millions of people do it!

"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson

I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain

"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson

I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain

There's no need to join a club to not pay your taxes

Just don't pay if don't want to. You don't have to make sure everybody else is doing like you. Most people have already paid their taxes anyway. My message is not, "don't not pay", it's "don't pay if you don't want to, but don't not do it becuase you didn't find a large enough club to join"

Mike, you have to overwhelm

Mike,
you have to overwhelm the system.. another words// more people then they have agents for or beds in prisons! it would have to be a mass tax revolt!

"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson

I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain

"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson

I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain

And it shall be.

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I think you are right.. as

I think you are right.. as people cannot afford to live they will tell the government to piss up a rope because they will see who screwed everything up!

"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson

I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain

"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson

I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain

The income tax is extortion money for the Fed

Plain and simple. The money is not "owed," it is extorted via "the barrel of a gun." Get people just THINKING this way and watch how things change.

Join the Revolution and Find out more @...

www.losthorizons.com

Libera me, let the truth break, what my fears make--Leslie Phillips

We do not need to get good laws to restrain bad people,
we need to get good people to restrain bad laws. --
--G.K. Chesterton

Well Then

You might be interested in reading this post from a user at Campaign For Liberty -

We have updated the IRS archive files. There are now more than 200 documents including court briefs, wins against the IRS, supporting citations and etc. All free downloads.

IRS Document Archives
http://www.svpvril.com/IRS_files/

Wow!

Time to get to downloading!

Thanks TimG!

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April 15th Tax Revolt

groups around the nation gather hundreds even thousands of supporters and proceed to your state capital and surround it and not let the legislators in

reach out and build coalitions across party lines and many groups that have common ground.

yes, most likely get arrested but it is time for non-violent civil disobedience

let us not be the generation that had the most to loose but did the least. it will take ACTION, feet on the ground and time for the people to get in the governments face.

What if the very least

everyone filed an extension....

When do we start feeling the effects of these bailouts in taxes ??

Extension = self incrimination

Ron Paul is my President.

Ron Paul is my President.

We are reaching the point.

We are reaching the point. Visit us at givemeliberty.org.

-MY OPS ARE BLACKER THAN YOUR OPS-

-MY OPS ARE BLACKER THAN YOUR OPS-

Tax Info Update

We have updated the IRS archive files. There are now more than 200 documents including court briefs, wins against the IRS, supporting citations and etc.

IRS Document Archives
http://www.svpvril.com/IRS_files/

Rights and diverse tax issues
http://tinyurl.com/7hcdnw

I agree, but

US CITIZENS have their heads so far up their ASSES that they are starting to see through their belly buttons a shade of light.

Dont hold your breath. The media has suppressed so many damm court cases in the last years, that you have no clue about.

Freedom may be worth searching for.

Remember, Dont battle the govt with guns(ALONE), Beat them in court, in state legislature, or hire Ron Paul for president.

Give me a break!

Do you actually think the federal government cares how it pays for what it spends? If they do not collect taxes, then they just have the banking system print up a checking account balance for them in return for government bonds. The only reason for collecting taxes is to maintain the illusion in the public mind that taxes fund spending, but the reality is that taking purchasing power from people via the back door of inflating the money supply works equally well for them.

So an income tax revolt is meaningless to the government. All it would do is maybe shift the burden of maintaining the government from those who work and can easily be plundered by withheld taxes to those who are most penalized by inflation of the money supply. Don't you think that anyone who could have successfully revolted quietly did so a long time ago and those who could not escape the system just did what they were forced to do.

Not there yet

Wait til more people start losing their jobs, their homes, their savings. Desperation has a way of clearing people's minds of the BS. People are asleep, but eventually they will wake up out of necessity.

We aren't there yet. Not even close.

http://federalfallacy.com

It hasn't sunk in yet

just what is going on. When it finally does sink in there will be a revolt and it won't be solely about taxes.

I don't think so

I don't think the American public is ready for a tax revolt. Here is ridiculous MA, we had a chance to phase out the income tax through a vote during the general election. Went down in flames 70/30. In corrupt, incompetent MA the "citizens" voted to continue funding the corrupt and incompetent government. Unless, of course, the vote got flipped via software...But use fear and most people will fall for it most of the time.

Extensive info on SS here

We had a public go-around on just this issue several years ago. All goes to show the law is plain while conformists are always brain-dead.

http://www.svpvril.com/cofe.html

Refused

My husbands employer refused to allow him to stop paying fed tax...(we owe property tax and he was going to stop paying the fed tax for 4 months at least to have the extra money to pay the property tax)
So..what do you do..when the employer refuses?

Freedom is another way to God...A corrupt government is a straight way to hell.

Freedom is another way to God...A corrupt government is a straight way to hell.

Yes Misfit...This Book Shows Exactly How To Stop Your...

employer from withholding taxes...here it is on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00072CHXO/ref=sr_1_o...

And here is Otto Skinners website

http://goodbiz.com/tbks/index.html Main site.

His books:

http://goodbiz.com/tbks/book_list.html

Revolt For Freedom !!!

Revolt For Freedom !!!
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Did he file a t-W4 form? Get

Did he file a t-W4 form? Get him to file that with his employer and also the affidavit found in the other link I provided. At that point his employer should stop, if not then he should pursue legal recourse against him employer.

http://www.1776solution.blogspot.com

"So long as the people do not care to exercise their freedom, those who wish to tyrannize will do so; for tyrants are active and ardent...to put shackles upon sleeping men.
— Voltairine de Cleyre (1886-1912)

http://www.1776solution.blogspot.com

"People fight the gold standard because they want to substitute national autarky for free trade, war for peace, totalitarian government omnipotence for liberty." von Mises

it's simple just stop

it's simple just stop paying!

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Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. H. L. Mencken

Get Prepared!

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Try this out

Try this out Hawk...Terminate the voluntary W4 Agreement with your employer.

http://www.preferredservices.org/free/noconsent/11%20WrkrTer...

and this IRS t-W4 form:

http://d.scribd.com/docs/11y7znx4zwde14b6vpfw.pdf

http://www.1776solution.blogspot.com

"So long as the people do not care to exercise their freedom, those who wish to tyrannize will do so; for tyrants are active and ardent...to put shackles upon sleeping men.
— Voltairine de Cleyre (1886-1912)

http://www.1776solution.blogspot.com

"People fight the gold standard because they want to substitute national autarky for free trade, war for peace, totalitarian government omnipotence for liberty." von Mises

I completely, fully and

I completely, fully and totally agree with you on this!

Even more so after having stepped a bit 'outside' our little echo chamber and spoken to more 'mainstream' Republicans. Most of them simply don't get, and don't have the patience learn, about the indirect taxation implied by the policies of the Federal Reserve, but they all loathe getting fleeced income tax time.

Selling people who struggle to make ends meet, by showing them how their paystub could come with the net line equal to the gross line, while still allowing Clinton era levels of federal funding, is a lot easier than getting them to read and internalize Mises or Rothbard.

And I think it will become even easier now that we don't have one nominally on 'our' side in the white house. Unless Obama plans to, and gets away with, heavily deficit fund an entire 8 year term, sooner or later the tax issue will come up. And it will come up while the economy for most is still in tatters. So tax cuts ought to receive a warm reception from people from far outside Ron Paul's usual base of supporters.

As a corollary to this, I think we need to be a bit flexible; and not out of hand dismiss anyone not completely intellectually pure. If we can help eliminate, or severely curtail, the income tax; even if it requires allying with characters out of touch in some other areas, it will dramatically limit the funding available for future government ventures, and hence be a huge step in the direction of more limited government.

So, Go Tax Revolt! The sooner the better!

We should all be assisting

We should all be assisting the massive and growing underground economy.

http://www.1776solution.blogspot.com

"So long as the people do not care to exercise their freedom, those who wish to tyrannize will do so; for tyrants are active and ardent...to put shackles upon sleeping men.
— Voltairine de Cleyre (1886-1912)

http://www.1776solution.blogspot.com

"People fight the gold standard because they want to substitute national autarky for free trade, war for peace, totalitarian government omnipotence for liberty." von Mises

If you're an employer

Pay everyone, including yourself in silver or gold. Use this source:
www.opencurrency.org or any other site to get Ron Paul dollars or Liberty Dollars. Like this link proved: http://www.dailypaul.com/node/45182
you won't be taxed because your income will be too low.

If you're an employee ask to be paid in silver or gold. Some large employers might have a tough time with this, but at least you can ask.

http://killfiat.blogspot.com/

I'm finding it to be way easier said than done

The logistics are a nightmare for everyone involved. If I could get customers to pay with it and suppliers to take it as payment, we'd be good.

Here are my thoughts (as a business owner)

1) Contact the guy from Nevada and find out how he made it work
2) Get in touch with Midas Resources http://www.infowars.com/midas/ or some other reputable dealer and get a standing order for your payroll every month.
3) Start out paying yourself and make it optional for employees. Also don't say they don't have to pay income taxes-make it up to their own decisions. Map out local coin dealers and find the most consistent one who pays top dollar.
4) After you make it work for your business start getting together small business groups who want to do the same thing and explain to them how to make it work.

http://killfiat.blogspot.com/

Also, here's something to consider...

...the difference between the ask price and the bid price. Who's going to take up THAT slack in this scenario....?

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/liberty_outlook/

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"Let them protest all they want, as long as they pay their taxes.” ...credited to Al Haig, Ronald Reagan's Secretary of State.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/liberty_outlook/
http://www.dailypaul.com/blog/1125
Ron Paul=Red Pill

Tax revolts are one of the

Tax revolts are one of the things that Gerald Celente, CEO of Trends Research, has been predicting for the future. Here's an interview from last month: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46MEqEgdLTg and also his website: http://www.trendsresearch.com/

He seems to have influence with the press, in that outlets such as Fox and others are willing to interview him. It might help if he gets out there even more, similar to how Peter Schiff is constantly in the media warning people about what's to come. Celente doesn't seem to be advocating or promoting tax revolts, just predicting them. But, if he is seen in the media very often and referred to as an "expert" - his statements in the press/media that there will be tax revolts might lead to a number of people becoming more willing to seriously consider the ideas of doing so.

The way he *might* be able to help in this is simply through awareness. The way that WE can help him bring about more awareness is by helping to get the media even more interested in him. We might do that by emailing shows and suggesting that they interview him, for example. Another way might be by mentioning his name and quotes or ideas from him when posting comments to articles published in the media.

Just an idea that might help this cause...

Whatever the mainstream

Whatever the mainstream media says. Yeah right, just like there will be no bailout. Amerika is doomed!

If we can help eliminate, or

If we can help eliminate, or severely curtail, the income tax; even if it requires allying with characters out of touch in some other areas, it will dramatically limit the funding available for future government ventures, and hence be a huge step in the right direction.

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Jenny (#1 Ron Paul Supporter)
migraines - home improvement

You really want to get Americans fired up about this?

Turn them on to Walter Burien:

http://www.taxretirement.com
http://www.cafr1.com

If what he says is true, we don't need to be giving government one $#%@ dime!!! In fact they owe us one huge collective refund twice over.

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Back in the late 40s a

Back in the late 40s a former head of the New York FED, Beardsley Ruml stated that under a fiat monetary system there is no need for either income, gift or estate taxes. The only reason for these taxes, he stated, was to redistribute wealth, enforce the use of fiat currency and social control.

http://www.1776solution.blogspot.com

"So long as the people do not care to exercise their freedom, those who wish to tyrannize will do so; for tyrants are active and ardent...to put shackles upon sleeping men.
— Voltairine de Cleyre (1886-1912)

http://www.1776solution.blogspot.com

"People fight the gold standard because they want to substitute national autarky for free trade, war for peace, totalitarian government omnipotence for liberty." von Mises

If you really want to get Americans fired up....

...destroy their TV's.

Once they have to converse with each other and formulate their own ideas, it will be much easier.

I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...

I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...