Dr. Paul on the Travesty in Gaza
Submitted by sunny on Mon, 01/05/2009 - 11:53
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Happy New Year to you, too, Dr. Paul
Lunar New Year is coming. I've heard we're entering a Year of the Rat. Apropos to Kissinger and his New World Order. In the 4th Reich, every year will be a Rat Year.
But Happy New Year...
For ye shall go out with joy, and be led forth with peace: the mountains and the hills shall break forth before you into singing, and all the trees of the field shall clap their hands.
--Isaiah 55:12, KJV
Haha I love the cheap
Haha I love the cheap opening ;)
Einstein said..........
"Insanity is defined as doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
Given the same ol' Zionist/Palestinian back and forth (as truly sad and whacky as it is), I thought Einstein's quote makes a lot of sense given the current, tragic events.
starlisa,
you are off base, way off base.
why are you "not verified". i have not seen your 'name' here before today
Ron Paul is my President
Ron Paul is My President
Maybe ...
Maybe not ...
Why is she "not verified" ...
It is quite curious.
I have never seen that before.
WAHOR!!
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/48994
WAHOR!!
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/48994
the troll got booted bright eyes
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"...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy
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a blog for those patriots who support Dr. Pauls positions and have sought out a place for like minded individual patriots. I personally am excited and convinced by Dr. Paul. I know he is right literally on every issue. He cured my apathy. I respect all who make a comment good or bad but, to troll the site and inflame our fellow patriots is not appropriate and I think those trolls should go back to their meaningless endeavors and leave us be. We are trying to restore your liberties and you are getting in the way. Alright?
Related: Zionist Trolls Abound on the Internet
Israel Backed by Army of Cyber-soldiers
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"An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it. Truth stands, even if there be no public support. It is self sustained." -Mahatma Gandhi
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"...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy
Yes, I see that...
and I think its going to get a little crowded in here!
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Over 57,000 views of the video in 2 days
Obama is the only other politician that could pull those numbers.
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Peace, Propaganda and the Promised Land
This excellent video documentary was posted / buried down below! I highly reccomend everyone watch it for a very comprehensive understanding of the Israel Palestine Conflict and the U.S. Media spin.
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/77984#comment-842357
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Peace%2C+Propaganda+an...
"Thomas Jefferson is rolling in his grave fast enough to be a new source of energy independence."~ samthurston
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"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd
Thank you for the post
The documentary film Peace, Propaganda and the Promised Land - profoundly changed my perspective. While, I was already aware of the propaganda machine American's call the news. It wasn't until I watched this documentary that I fully understood what the future will bring, toll roads, identification passes, oppressive laws, no fundamental rights, controlled, herded, tracked and discarded.
Balanced view
I agree with Liberty_Belle that you should watch this documentary. "Excellent" is probably not the best word for it, but you should watch it anyway. But then you should watch the following:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2533702461706761547...
Relentless: The Struggle for Peace in the Middle East (1:02:19)
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=pallywood&emb=0#
Pallywood: According to Palestinian Sources (18:02)
http://www.sundancechannel.com/films/500063974
Décryptage (1:40:00) (available with English subtitles)
Educate yourselves. Don't just watch a poor bit of propaganda like "Peace, Propaganda and the Promised Land" and swallow it blindly.
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"As an American, being mocked by people from third world hell holes is a bit like being made fun of by the retarded kid on the playground. I know I should be insulted, but I can't stop laughing."
--The Pixiest
Balanced View? As in Fox news "Fair and Balanced"?
Ha! That is all we have been exposed to on our MSM...so no there is no balanced view..not yet. If so, then we would be getting "acutal journalism" you know, that which is not bought and paid for by the Zionist Controlled Media or the many Israeli PR firms such as you are most likely being paid by.
P.S. Your signature line is sick.
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"Thomas Jefferson is rolling in his grave fast enough to be a new source of energy independence."~ samthurston
http://www.campaignforliberty.com/
"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd
Did you watch it?
Did you watch the documentary, or are you only interested in things that support your prejudices?
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"As an American, being mocked by people from third world hell holes is a bit like being made fun of by the retarded kid on the playground. I know I should be insulted, but I can't stop laughing."
--The Pixiest
It's ridiculous that Dr.
It's ridiculous that Dr. Paul claims this is about "what might happen". This is a response to daily rocket attacks from Gaza. This isn't a war for adventure; it's the kind of war that every American should be in favor of: one of self-defense.
No, America should not be involved. America shouldn't be giving money to either side. But to condemn Israel for doing what any sane country would do in the same situation is ignorant.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5eKXOBf5_w
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"As an American, being mocked by people from third world hell holes is a bit like being made fun of by the retarded kid on the playground. I know I should be insulted, but I can't stop laughing."
--The Pixiest
At what point did Dr. Paul 'condemn Israel'???
..because I don't see it.
Sane country? You're pathetic.
The U.S. should withdraw all support from theocracies and terrorist states like "the Jewish state".
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"An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it. Truth stands, even if there be no public support. It is self sustained." -Mahatma Gandhi
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"...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy
How mature of you
So name-calling is the best you can do? Yes, the US should withdraw all support from everyone. But the US should never condemn people for defending themselves. Israel targets combatants. The Arabs intentionally target non-combatants. Your support of the aggressors says a lot more about you than it does about what's going on in the Middle East.
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"As an American, being mocked by people from third world hell holes is a bit like being made fun of by the retarded kid on the playground. I know I should be insulted, but I can't stop laughing."
--The Pixiest
"Israel targets combatants."
That's the best joke I've heard this year! Thanks for the laugh!
Sorry, I disapprove of the murderous actions of the U.N. created Zionist Occupation Government.
I 'support' no one in the Middle East. It's all false-flag created subterfuge to perpetuate unending war. Kind of like our hyper-interventionist foreign policy.
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"An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it. Truth stands, even if there be no public support. It is self sustained." -Mahatma Gandhi
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"...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy
What's funny?
I'm not sure what you find funny about it. It's true. You know what kind of arsenal Israel has. The only thing keeping them from carpet bombing all of Gaza into an uninhabited wasteland is their moral sense. Something that the people who plant roadside charges and set them off when a schoolbus full of kids goes by know nothing about.
And can you do anything but call names and laugh? Is there anything of substance you'd like to say?
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"As an American, being mocked by people from third world hell holes is a bit like being made fun of by the retarded kid on the playground. I know I should be insulted, but I can't stop laughing."
--The Pixiest
starlisa~please watch the video posted above
and you may just be surprised to see that you have bought into the propaganda spin on the Israel/ Palestine Conflict. I don't blame you ..many people are confused on this issue due to the intentional propaganda programs. Are you aware there are many IDF soldiers that have refused to participate any further in the war crimes...that there are many Rabbis and Jewish citizens also that are very much against the occupation and genocide of Palestine?
Please watch and think about this documentary
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Peace%2C+Propaganda+an...
"Thomas Jefferson is rolling in his grave fast enough to be a new source of energy independence."~ samthurston
http://www.campaignforliberty.com/
"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd
Speaking of propaganda
I started watching the hour plus propaganda show you recommended. I've heard all of that before, and it's beyond twisted. I'm quite aware of the Jews in Israel who are against the very existence of a Jewish state. It's somewhat pathetic, and more than a little reminiscent of the Americans who were pro-Communist before the fall of the Soviet Union.
When I see people slamming Israel for doing what they would do themselves, and defending mad aggressors like the Arabs, and sympathizing with fifth columnists like the "peace lobby" in Israel (which is nothing at all like the supporters of peace here in the US), I can only conclude that there's more to the criticisms of Israel than meets the eye.
Israel could have wiped the Arabs out a long time ago if that was what Israel was about. While the Arabs have tried time and again to wipe Israel off the map.
Liberty_Belle, you're on the wrong side. You need to learn more about the situation, and realize the extent of the lies and propaganda in films like that one.
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"As an American, being mocked by people from third world hell holes is a bit like being made fun of by the retarded kid on the playground. I know I should be insulted, but I can't stop laughing."
--The Pixiest
I am on the side of humanity and truth
Do not tell me I am on the "wrong side"...the only side to this is truth and a moral side and that being discerned through research readily available. Your sick signature line tells me all I need to know about your mindset. You have only been here a short time as of today and I see you refuse to look at the responses and links provided to you. Most here understand that to be enlightened about the situation does not make you an anti-semite or anti Israel or on the "wrong side" we recognize it is the the puppet governments of the NWO and not the people themsleves on either "side" that are responsible for perpetuating the atrocities of war crimes. As far as me needing to learn more ...why dont you take your own advice? I have learned enough to recognize a propaganda disinfo shill...so I waste no further time or emotion towards your agenda here.
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"Thomas Jefferson is rolling in his grave fast enough to be a new source of energy independence."~ samthurston
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"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd
Christopher X
Dr. Paul's position on Israel and other mideast countries has been consistent and correct for as long as I can remember. He didn't just start making these comments. "...foreign entanglements with none" has long been his mantra. We simply do not need to be involved in other countries affairs. We can't afford it and the real American people don't want it. We have our own messes to clean up.
you do not chide someone you want to trade with...
and talk to.
2Chronicles 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
We are already in it
You must have skipped my first post. Ignorance is Bliss I suppose....
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Completely agree
Let other countries solve their own problems. Get rid of all foreign aid. If people want to donate to another country to help them out, let them spend their own money. Don't steal it from me and give it to someone I despise.
I agree that we should stay
I agree that we should stay out of it..
However, it wasn't pre-emptive, nor was this really a "surprise attack"..I mean, you launch dozens of rockets at a country..and they stomp you..it's not really a "surprise"..
Hama's actions are self defense
Israel has been blockading Gaza for many months now. Blockading a country or region is an act of war. This is self defense by Hamas.
http://www.ikhwanweb.com/Article.asp?ID=18936&LevelID=1&Sect...
BTW, this all about Hamas not recognizing Israel's "right to exist." It's a violent response to a purely rhetorical position by Hamas. Hamas is the democratically elected government for the Palestinian territories. They have been viciously attacked since their election merely because they won't say they accept Israel's presence in the region.
Hamas' actions are *not* self-defense
The very day that Israel expelled 9000 of its own innocent men, women, and children, some of whom had been living there for over 25 years, from their homes in the Gaza Strip, the Arabs (even before Hamas took over) went in, destroyed the synagogues that had been left behind, and began using the ruins of the Jewish towns as a launching ground for missiles into Israel.
Everyone who had warned that this would happen had been branded "an enemy of peace". But they were right.
For over 2 years, the Arabs of Gaza have been launching rockets on almost a daily basis into Jewish towns. They have not targeted military installations and weapons caches the way Israel is doing right now; no, they targeted grade schools.
Israel has shown almost unnatural patience. They were hoping that a blockade would suffice to stop the violence. It hasn't. And so they're having to stop it by other means. If you tell me you wouldn't do exactly the same thing, I won't believe you. Neither will anyone else.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5eKXOBf5_w
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"As an American, being mocked by people from third world hell holes is a bit like being made fun of by the retarded kid on the playground. I know I should be insulted, but I can't stop laughing."
--The Pixiest
9000 innocent Israelis?
This happened while there were israeli settlements in GAZA:
" Israelis in Gaza have no restrictions on water consumption. Rather, their consumption is subsidized, encourgaing overuse and misuse (Isaac 1997). They have also been favored through selective appropriation of agricultural land having the best groundwater quantity and quality, and uneven pricing schemes. Gaza Palestinians pay up to $1.20/cubic meter while Israeli settlers only pay $0.10/cubic meter for water. Elmusa (1994) states that "relative to per capita income, Palestinians pay as much as twenty times what Israeli settlers pay for water."
From: http://www.american.edu/TED/ice/GAZA.HTM
Your quote:
"and began using the ruins of the Jewish towns as a launching ground for missiles into Israel."
WRONG AGAIN:
Nearly ALL settlements (with green lanes and wellfilled swimming pools!) were locared in the southwest along the coast!
the launching site for this selfmade "fire-crackers are located mainly in the northeast!
http://palestinian.ning.com/forum/topics/the-other-side-of-t...
Ron Paul is starting to bother me somewhat...
he chides Israel for what they are doing and then says we should not chose sides and stay out of it? that makes no sense...i agree we ought to stay out of it with our $, but he himself asked for "letters of marque" to go after the criminal of 9/11 in other countries, and also stated to John Stosser that if Montana was attacked he would declare war. if he is really going to stay out of it, then he shouldn't chide Israel or Gaza, or defend Israel or Gaza...isn't that true?
2Chronicles 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
He isn't 'chiding' anyone
...can you point out where exactly he condemns the actions of Israel? All I see is him condemning the same thing he's condemned for the last couple decades - our nation's foreign policy of intervention.
I fail to understand your
I fail to understand your point. So if Montana was attacked we shouldn't declare war? Please elaborate.
watch these
http://abcnews.go.com/2020/Stossel/Story?id=3978940
...no, if Montana was attacked RP said we should declare war against the attackers if it is a country behind it.
2Chronicles 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
I think alot of you are
I think alot of you are reading into Dr. Pauls words that he is on the side of Hamas,,, I do not think he is! neither is he on the side of Isreal.. he says we should keep our noses out of it! PERIOD! no money, no arms to either side! this is a struggle that has been going on for more then thousands of years! None of us like to see people killed or mamed.. but Dr, Paul is not taking any side!
"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson
I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain
"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson
I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain
Unfortunately only a handful of us seem to maintain balance.
I believe in neutrality and ending the empire. Not taking emotional sides in other nations' wars.
Both sides have blown up many innocent noncombatants. So did the US, in Iraq. It's called "war". We should not be emotionally involved.
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Dr. Paul is wrong in this case
I'm sorry, but claiming that Israel went into Gaza because of something that "might happen" is simply untrue. And Dr. Paul is a member of Congress, and has access to the facts, so I can't understand why he would say such a thing. It's hard not to see him on the side of Hamas in this case when he says something so obviously unfair and unbalanced.
I've defended Dr. Paul's record on Israel. He opposed the censure motion when Israel destroyed the Iraqi nuclear reactor. He wants to cut all aid both to Israel and the Arabs. I applaud him for both of these positions. But this video is shameful.
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"As an American, being mocked by people from third world hell holes is a bit like being made fun of by the retarded kid on the playground. I know I should be insulted, but I can't stop laughing."
--The Pixiest
Dr. Paul is right on...
I think; however, that it would be appropriate if we keep giving money to Israel and everyone else so that we can expedite the destruction of the fiat monetary system that we are currently saddled with. Once the system takes the inevitable BIG hit, we can not only restore a proper currency but, get on with restoring our country and our constitution and personal liberties. (Oh, and while we're at it, we can try those who have destroyed our country for treason and mete out the proper punishment). Amen?
A good article on Israel's insane policies
"Actions based on irrational premises inevitably fail in their purposes--they fail, and if the premises don't change, then the actions are inevitably repeated, in forms which are more and more grotesque. It is unbearable to think that the new American administration would begin with more American dollars being poured into what is unjustifiable."
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20090112/shawn?rel=hp_currently
http://disquietreservations.blogspot.com/
Great article!
Thank you.
TROLL ALERT! this guy has
TROLL ALERT! this guy has been a member here for a whole 58 minutes! where have you been for the last1 and a half years??
"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson
I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain
"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson
I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain
Over 10,000 Israelis attended HUGE anti-war protest in Israel
Check it out:
http://zope.gush-shalom.org/home/en/events/1231029668
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I made an excellent video comparing this to Obama's weekyaddress
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Are you watching the History channel
right now? 11pm to 12pm central Sunday??
Great clip by the good Dr.
I hope he continues to speak out about the exact number of taxpayer bucks we give Israel & Egypt & tries to cut that number & bring the money back to...... US
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Please Please Please
While much of what is being stated on this thread is true, much is unfounded. For example, when I state a belief such as America is definitely under zionist influence I can back that statement up with facts that support such a claim. When someone states that Israel was responsible for 9/11 or that 2/3 of congress are jews, it just makes us all look like crackpots especially when the supplied evidence is clearly unsubstantiated.
Everyone here is obviously free to state whatever they want, but please, there are others not in the movement who read this. We are looking to open their eyes to the truth, not give them fodder to attack us or dismiss us a hodgepodge of disenfranchised loons.
I cannot recall which debate it was, but when one of the Fox news moderators asked Ron Paul about the "9/11 truthers" and whether or not he agreed with them, Dr. Paul rebutted with something to the effect of "if they truly cared about me they would stop."
Please think before you post.