
IRS Requires Criminals to Report "All" Income
Submitted by hawkiye on Tue, 01/13/2009 - 10:52
Apparently the IRS knows it strikes fear into the hearts of millions. So much so that they even require criminals to report their ill gotten gains as income.
I had to chuckle when I read the excerpts below from their own publication. Spoken as if they simply expected criminals to comply. Then it struck me, how many criminals actually comply because of the widespread fear of the IRS?
Is this the height of arrogance and power? Or just the mob bosses requiring even the lowest of criminals to give them their cut of the loot?
From IRS Publication 525: Taxable and Nontaxable Income
Page 33:
"Illegal activities. Income from illegal activities, such as money from dealing illegal drugs, must be included in your income on form 1040 line 21, or on schedule C-EZ (Form 1040) if from your self employment activity."Page 34:
"Kickbacks. You must include kickbacks,side commissions, push money, or similar payments you receive in your income..."Page 35:
"Stolen property. If you steal property, you must report its fair market value in your income in the year you steal it unless in the same year, you return it to its rightful owner"















Update: I found it.
Bottom right corner of the page.
Good thing...
...there is no requirement to file a 1040 in the first place.
Something from "Onion", hawkiye?
Lol.
This is for real, this is
This is for real, this is no joke, this is from their own publication, try the link.
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Oh my. Just when you think you've seen everything...
I have a friend who was a tax preparer. I'm gonna have to ask her about this. Too funny.
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Then the IRS owes a lot due
Then the IRS owes a lot due to it's own outstanding criminal activity.
But seriously, the only sense I can make from this is so it can be added to the persecution of criminals and they can collect more income from them.
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So I suppose next they will require the victums of crime
to fill out a form 1099 at the end of the year to report the value of what the criminal took from them. And if you don't put the criminals name, address, and social security number on the report, then they will fine you $50 for filing an incomplete report.
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Dont give them any more! crazy Idea's :o)
As ridiculous as their regulations sound, they were born
from past judicial interpretations (misinterpretations) that, essentially, require individuals to surrender, through regulatory compliance, their right against self-incrimination. (Yes, I am aware that the Constitution is not the actual source or grantor of those rights.) If a person is engaged in some kind of illegal activity that produces an economic gain, then the reporting of that gain and related details (expenses, etc.) is an act that may tend to incriminate the reporter of the information or provide a link in a chain of evidence that may expose one to criminal prosecution. This mechanism has proved very useful to the government over the years by providing a means by which essentially any citizen can be made the object of criminal (or at least heavy civil) liability. This was a particularly useful device during prohibition (see: United States v. Sullivan, 274 U.S. 259, 1927). We can recall that it was the income tax laws (applying the principle in the Sullivan decision) that allowed the government to take down Al Capone. The decision required an individual to raise a red flag on his tax return, by proffering an assertion of his right against self-incrimination, rather than by supplying this or that piece of information. However, such an individual (according to the theory set forth by Oliver Wendall Holmes) could not refuse to comply with the requirement to submit a return. This principle would be re-visited 49 years later in Garner v. United States, 424 U.S. 648 (1976). The Garner decision actually became the template of operation for many involved in the so-called tax protest movement that grew so quickly during the Carter administration. When Reagan came into office, he (and Congress) gave us the TEFRA laws which, among other things, imposed a fine for anyone who attempted to assert such a right (against self-incrimination) on a tax return. (The tax return being viewed as, in essence, an administrative subpeona to testify.)
Try to explain this principle to your neighbor and, I dare say, you will receive a response which asserts something along the lines that anyone who claims such a right, against self-incrimination, must being doing so because they are guilty of something. The foundation of an accusatorial system of justice, inherent in that right, will not even occur to them.
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The real funny part is...
..that they are absolutely serious. You could almost picture some small, balding, humorless man seated next to a severe looking female coworker at the IRS HQ reading this aloud...
Hey, while you're at it, why not have them change their criminal ways and get a honest job... maybe return all the things they've stolen.... apologize to their victims....
Hilarious. As if putting it in writing somehow makes it enforceable.
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16th and 17th amendments along with them. We start that process by demanding Constitutional money. Help spread these Violation Tickets. Let's fill DC up with them, and stand upon the Constitution demanding it be abided by. Print from here without even having to sign up (Just go to the "ipaper" icon when you select your documen):
http://www.scribd.com/people/view/4975153-fireant
This has to become hard copy so we wake our neighbors and exert some power, not to mention go around MSM. We can either talk about IRS or do something. I think they are happy if we just talk.
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Wuuld this have saved Capone?
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Sweet baby jesus...I thought
Sweet baby jesus...I thought this post was a joke unitl I actually read the IRS document. WTF.
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Should the IRS report its own 'income'?
Because the last time I checked, it was the world's biggest criminal racket. Anybody who has researched the issue knows that most people are not legally required to pay income tax, but they pay it anyway either out of ignorance or to buy 'protection.' Are criminal gains from racketeering included in reportable income?
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Yeah
...just saying that if criminals are required to file their ill-gotten gains then logically the IRS would be the counrty's biggest taxpayer.
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just when
you thought it couldn't get any deeper.
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Does this mean that Marijuana growers/sellers are also eligible for government aide? I saw somewhere that "if you're ready to locate your small manufacturing firm in a depressed downtown area and will agree to hire and train local residents for your work force, you could easily get a government grant for start-up costs, a subsidy for your overhead costs of rent and utilities, and a 3 percent long-term loan for equipment financing". That could really help a entrepreneur out! And the location would be spot on! :-)
Lol.
Calculated move
It looks ludicrous on the face of it, but it's actually a very calculated move on their part. You see, if you really don't like the bad guy and maybe you don't have quite enough evidence to convict, not only can you charge him with drug dealing/bribery/theft, you can now charge him with tax evasion as well. As we all know with tax evasion, you are guilty until proven innocent. Al Capone anyone?
Exactly.
Its a racket, and an ingenious move.
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What about Ponzi Schemes?
I didn't see a section addressing Ponzi Schemes. I think the IRS is really dropping the ball on this one!
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Geeesh... the freakin Federal Reserve, and the Secretary of the
Treasury were given 44 questions to answer regarding the $350,0000 billion bailout taxpayer money, and they could only answer 19 by the committee that is supposed to be overseeing them, hmmm...how right is that, and do you expect the biggest of all collection agencies the (IRS) to do a good job, give me a break once again. You people need to stop believing in this government, it is corrupt, and will take you down as fast as they are going. I pray in my heart that the majority of you all know this, and I am truly preaching to the choir here, and not just blowing hot air.
Sigh! Ah yeah you are
Sigh! Ah yeah you are preaching to the choir here and if you don't know it your the one not paying attention here. Your posts have gotten progressively more condescending as if you think your the only one here who knows whats going on and it's getting quite annoying to say the least.
Try slowing down and reading and understanding the whole post and its context instead of jumping on everyone like they are a bunch of dummies...
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Sorry hawkiye...
You are right, I will tone it down. I do not believe anyone here is a dummy by the way. If I offended anyone, I am sorry. I was not trying to sound superior, but I understand where you are coming from, I re-read my post, and understand why you thought that, but please know that was not my intent at all, I just get so frustrated sometimes, and I am sure others do as well. I won't be posting anymore since I have become annoying to you, and possibly others. The last thing I want is to be annoying to people, it's best if I just shut my trap. I will continue to read posts here from time to time.
Ah now your mad at me for
Ah now your mad at me for correcting you. Look we all do it from time to time no worries just be aware. No need to stop posting or be mad about it. Next time I do something like it you can correct me and we'll be even ;-)
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Give me a break...
hawk, No, I am not mad, please accept my apology, and let's move on okay. Yes, I took the bait, and I am posting, if I post in the future I will just make sure I am not not posting to any of your threads. My post was not directed at you, it was at the article you posted. I believe there are new people who get on this site, and do believe everything they read, that was my point. I stopped believing anything our government puts in print years ago. Most of it is propaganda, but unfortunately there still are people that bow down to authority, but I am not one of them.
Once again sorry to have offended you or anyone else by speaking my mind.
This what is used to put the double whammy on...
those convicted of drug dealing and other profit oriented conspiracies. Once a conviction is obtained, especially in federal cases, they sweep in, gather estimates of revenue over the life of the enterprise, levy back taxes, compile "late" penalties and then seize all property owned by the felon. It is a great scam and worthy of any den of thieves.
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LOL Page 34
I wonder how many of our corrupt officials complied with that rule. LOL I think we should send this specific page to each corrupt official :-)
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can just see "Big Worm" or "Little Frog" turning part of their drug profits over to the IRS just because "they said so".
"Tyrants fear nothing more than insubordination"
"It's just one big club... and WE ain't in it!"
IRS wants "crooked" ill-gotten booty
LOL right, you would think those tough guys just laugh and keep hoarding their money, like they'll pay tax on drug income because the IRS insists they do. But how many end(ed) in jail for tax evasion? Frankly, if you can't prove a guy's a crook, prove he owes millions in taxes, just get him in jail.
They
collect all their profits in cash money and there's absolutely no paper trail. Most of those guys don't even own fancy homes or keep their money in banks. They may be able to nail a few that get too egotistical and reckless but that's about it.
The government is going pSycHo knowing that the country's economy is about to go under.
Ahmadinejad said that they are acting like drunk men; one day they want to attack you the next day they want to borrow money from you. One day they want peace and the next they want to kill you.
The constitution states that the people have the right to revolt against the government when it is no longer capable of governing and ours is getting very near that point.
"Tyrants fear nothing more than insubordination"
"It's just one big club... and WE ain't in it!"
federal reserve bank
will the criminals who own the federal reserve bank now have to report there income after almost one hundred years of massive theft/murder
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Isn't this how they nailed Al Capone....?
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This
This has got to be from The Onion. I never knew kickbacks were taxable. hahaha r u serious?? toooo funny
No this is their publication
No this is their publication from their website, I as looking for some other information when I ran across this and was amazed.
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