Here is a 9/11 truth I would like to see discussed....really think about it...
Iraq~ A country that had NOTHING to do with 9/11...and this is what we have done to them...WE are the terrorists!!!
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For ease of computation, we'll use approximate figures. Assume the U.S.'s war crimes have resulted in one million deaths. That is roughly 1/26 of the total Iraqi population. An equivalent number of American deaths would be 11.5 million people. 3,000 Americans were murdered on 9/11. In terms of casualties, 11.5 million deaths represent 3,800 9/11s -- or a 9/11 every day for ten and a half years.
Let me repeat that: a 9/11 every day for ten and a half years.
Perhaps you think these casualty figures are highly inflated. Fine. Cut them in half. That's a 9/11 every day for a little over five years.
I believe many of us have loved ones who serve (and some of us loved ones who served and died) who believed they were nobly serving their nation. To understand that we are terrorists means accepting their loved one fights, or died, in vain.
Truth liberates, but it does not always bring joy.
respond to the 9/11 truth I posted above? Why? I have posted this several times...hardly any or no response...that scares me more than anything...there is a huge disconnect to the reality of the consequences of 9/11...
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"I truly wish that real life would no longer surpass the worst excesses of my nightmarish imaginings... Arthur Silber **
That's why I posted the above video. Once understanding the real likely perpetrators, then the dimension of your post begins to hit home. I was conflicted for quite some time, knowing things just did not add up, but let's acknowledge, the power of MSM is ovewhelming. Still, until the perpetrators are exposed and routed out of our government/corporate complex, it is a very deep and soulful issue to come to grips with. If http://www.documentarywir... is accurate, it means our entire government has been taken over by a rogue mafia, and many if not most of our officials, both elected and hired are compromised in one way or another. If coming to grips with this possibility doesn't induce one to anger, I doubt there is anything which will.
Lol! I have had that very "song in my head" for weeks!! Did you put it there? lol! Ah! Yes! Reading between the lines...thank goodness for those that do...and if not for knowing that there are those that do ...I would just as well spend my time banging my head against a wall!!!
BTW~ a missive coming your way in reply to yours...have been somewhat distracted..pls forgive...the horseless horsewoman!
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"I truly wish that real life would no longer surpass the worst excesses of my nightmarish imaginings... Arthur Silber **
How about an totally open and honest investigation with all evidence available to the investigators. If the team was headed up by Jesse Ventura, I think the results either way would finally be acceptable. Meanwhile, sinking to name-calling is divisive and serves no useful purpose.
If we could ever get a open investigation which we won't under our current form of government (Corporatocracy) it would lead to charges of treason, sentences of death and the ousting of our precious relationship with the Mossad and the Israeli Gov't.
Why give these guys so much air time?
You can see that several people have spoken out against them, and not in support of them. They are clearly in the minority here. That is the only thing that comforts me.
I'm sorry for encouraging you with the "felatio" comment. It was just too easy, and I am not perfect either.
These two, horatio and bagnall, have exposed themselves a long time ago. No one takes them seriously.
As I said before. They are like a senile relative that sits in the corner and babbles the same old crap every time. They have been beaten down with science, reason, and fact on numerous occasions. They still haven't learned.
I mean how can you take a guy that uses the word "retard' seriously?
Mike Lawson and I were discussing this the other day. The question of who is the bigger idiot comes to mind. I started to realize that it was me, for continuing to argue with an idiot.
These guys protest on the surface, but they really thrive on the discourse these discussions bring.
I am all for discussions of the events of 9/11. It was the most important event of this century, pertaining to our civil liberties, and Constitutional Republic..
But the 9/11 discussions always seem to turn into a high school pissing match, and it's because of responding to people like this.
They are not worth the effort. It is time to leave them in the trenches, sucking their thumbs in the fetal position, and move on.
★★★★★★
"Life's tough......It's even tougher if you're stupid."
-John Wayne
President Kennedy issued Executive Order 111110 allowing silver dollars as a competing currency to the Federal Reserve Notes. 6 months later asassintion and Lyndon rescinds order...
Aaron Rousso's interview with Alex Jones. 9-11 was an inside job and he knew about it through Nick Rockefellar 10 months before the New World Order was able to usher in the police state with another Pearl Harbor event.
By (supposedly)knowing a crime was going to be committed, but failing to notify anyone at all that a crime was to be committed, he is admitting to complicity in that crime.
Lack of evidence is not evidence. Lack of evidence does not mean evidence of anything. Logic does not work this way. You can't just make a claim and say that there is a lack of evidence and then draw a conclusion from that.
and control the elite has over media and government and force it upon a nation. There is no evidence for the official claim that would stand up in court.
Keep compiling your list comrade... It's funny how you post 3-4 times as much on anything that has to do with 9/11. NOW WHY IS THAT CIA MAN? http://www.youtube.com/wa...
Again, the fact remains that the DP Truthers, such as yourself, when unable to defend any of their "facts", resort to name calling. As if that would change anything...
If you have something useful to say about 9/11 then just say it. Put it out there in the freemarket of ideas and see how it fairs. Defend it passionately. This thread is just plain stupid, an embaressment to any lover of free speech, and does no credit to a website that bears the name of Dr. Paul.
You are an exception to the rest of your colleagues who troll by name calling and complaining to mods... Free speech is just that free and you are welcome to your opinion.
As far as I can tell, only a few severely demented people here believe there is some sort of infiltration. Usually these individuals also resort to using name calling such as "shill" or "troll".
But I'm a Ron Paul supporter. I donated thousands of dollars to his cause. I read as much as I can about him and his theories. Why would I go to a different site?
You, on the other hand, don't seem to understand what his message is. You don't seem to listen to his wishes at all, which is to stop promoting 9/11 craziness using his name. If anything you should be going to a 9/11 forum on the web and "leave Ron Paul alone". Stop hurting his name!
Most excellent
I'm passing it on.
For those interested in this
you might find some thing archived interesting http://delicious.com/Easy...
The core of the 9/11 debate is that it was done at all
I feel too much time is spent trying to convince people.
Why was it done?
Patriot Act etc.
Wars Etc..
But, why?
It was poorly concealed.
The 19 box cutters was lame and it was lame intentionally.
Bush, Cheney? What the hell are you talking about? This was planned for decades.The people who planned it are still in power.
Leave the convincing alone...accept that it happened and uncover who did it. Looks like there is plenty of evidence.
Great Video!!
Who'll be our voice??
Ron Paul, yeah!!
9/11 Truth ~ This is the reality
Here is a 9/11 truth I would like to see discussed....really think about it...
Iraq~ A country that had NOTHING to do with 9/11...and this is what we have done to them...WE are the terrorists!!!
*******
For ease of computation, we'll use approximate figures. Assume the U.S.'s war crimes have resulted in one million deaths. That is roughly 1/26 of the total Iraqi population. An equivalent number of American deaths would be 11.5 million people. 3,000 Americans were murdered on 9/11. In terms of casualties, 11.5 million deaths represent 3,800 9/11s -- or a 9/11 every day for ten and a half years.
Let me repeat that: a 9/11 every day for ten and a half years.
Perhaps you think these casualty figures are highly inflated. Fine. Cut them in half. That's a 9/11 every day for a little over five years.
Every day.
Do you begin to understand now?
http://powerofnarrative.b...
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"I truly wish that real life would no longer surpass the worst excesses of my nightmarish imaginings... Arthur Silber
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"I truly wish that real life would no longer surpass the worst excesses of my nightmarish imaginings... Arthur Silber **
Good points and a great post, Thanks!
"All great truths begin as blasphemies."
liberty, I will give you my opinion, but few will like it
I believe many of us have loved ones who serve (and some of us loved ones who served and died) who believed they were nobly serving their nation. To understand that we are terrorists means accepting their loved one fights, or died, in vain.
Truth liberates, but it does not always bring joy.
good post Liberty_Belle
(Better) to be confused in the search for truth than fully confident and sound asleep in a dream of lies. ~ Michael Nystrom
http://www.votenader.org/...
http://www.flickr.com/pho...
Have you seen this?
http://www.documentarywir...
Thank you ...but WHY doesn't anyone
respond to the 9/11 truth I posted above? Why? I have posted this several times...hardly any or no response...that scares me more than anything...there is a huge disconnect to the reality of the consequences of 9/11...
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"I truly wish that real life would no longer surpass the worst excesses of my nightmarish imaginings... Arthur Silber **
Many are likely still conflicted.
That's why I posted the above video. Once understanding the real likely perpetrators, then the dimension of your post begins to hit home. I was conflicted for quite some time, knowing things just did not add up, but let's acknowledge, the power of MSM is ovewhelming. Still, until the perpetrators are exposed and routed out of our government/corporate complex, it is a very deep and soulful issue to come to grips with. If
http://www.documentarywir... is accurate, it means our entire government has been taken over by a rogue mafia, and many if not most of our officials, both elected and hired are compromised in one way or another. If coming to grips with this possibility doesn't induce one to anger, I doubt there is anything which will.
Thanks fireant
I didn't know documentarywire was back in action. They were offline for a while. I will check out the film when I have 2 hours to burn...
★★★★★★
"Life's tough......It's even tougher if you're stupid."
-John Wayne
well said darling
your posts-comments are one of the things keeping me vibrant hard working on DP.
Thank you*)
http://www.votenader.org/...
http://www.flickr.com/pho...
Ooh
this sounds serious. Let's try to keep it G-rated ;>
Virtual Reality 365
As usual, this Belle rings true.
http://www.dailypaul.com/...
“Shakedown
Dreams walking in broad daylight
Three hun-dred six-ty five de-grees
Burning down the house”
[See ‘Iceberg’ post below for context to this tstorey, (who, incidentally, also knows how to read between the Daily news lines)]
Burning~ Byrne~ing Down the House!!
Cool Baby!
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
Lol! I have had that very "song in my head" for weeks!! Did you put it there? lol! Ah! Yes! Reading between the lines...thank goodness for those that do...and if not for knowing that there are those that do ...I would just as well spend my time banging my head against a wall!!!
BTW~ a missive coming your way in reply to yours...have been somewhat distracted..pls forgive...the horseless horsewoman!
*****
"I truly wish that real life would no longer surpass the worst excesses of my nightmarish imaginings... Arthur Silber **
How about an totally open
How about an totally open and honest investigation with all evidence available to the investigators. If the team was headed up by Jesse Ventura, I think the results either way would finally be acceptable. Meanwhile, sinking to name-calling is divisive and serves no useful purpose.
Pat
BOHICA!!
Oh come on bringing out the trolls so we can all see is helpful!
If we could ever get a open investigation which we won't under our current form of government (Corporatocracy) it would lead to charges of treason, sentences of death and the ousting of our precious relationship with the Mossad and the Israeli Gov't.
"All great truths begin as blasphemies."
Truth,
Why give these guys so much air time?
You can see that several people have spoken out against them, and not in support of them. They are clearly in the minority here. That is the only thing that comforts me.
I'm sorry for encouraging you with the "felatio" comment. It was just too easy, and I am not perfect either.
These two, horatio and bagnall, have exposed themselves a long time ago. No one takes them seriously.
As I said before. They are like a senile relative that sits in the corner and babbles the same old crap every time. They have been beaten down with science, reason, and fact on numerous occasions. They still haven't learned.
I mean how can you take a guy that uses the word "retard' seriously?
Mike Lawson and I were discussing this the other day. The question of who is the bigger idiot comes to mind. I started to realize that it was me, for continuing to argue with an idiot.
These guys protest on the surface, but they really thrive on the discourse these discussions bring.
I am all for discussions of the events of 9/11. It was the most important event of this century, pertaining to our civil liberties, and Constitutional Republic..
But the 9/11 discussions always seem to turn into a high school pissing match, and it's because of responding to people like this.
They are not worth the effort. It is time to leave them in the trenches, sucking their thumbs in the fetal position, and move on.
★★★★★★
"Life's tough......It's even tougher if you're stupid."
-John Wayne
Thanks for the post and the
Thanks for the post and the encouragement.
"All great truths begin as blasphemies."
Yeah, it would be great,
Yeah, it would be great, wouldn't it?
Pat
BOHICA!!
President Kennedy issued
President Kennedy issued Executive Order 111110 allowing silver dollars as a competing currency to the Federal Reserve Notes. 6 months later asassintion and Lyndon rescinds order...
Johnson's first act as president, actually...
It makes one wonder.
I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...
Aaron Rousso's interview
Aaron Rousso's interview with Alex Jones. 9-11 was an inside job and he knew about it through Nick Rockefellar 10 months before the New World Order was able to usher in the police state with another Pearl Harbor event.
Then why didn't Russo tell anyone?
By (supposedly)knowing a crime was going to be committed, but failing to notify anyone at all that a crime was to be committed, he is admitting to complicity in that crime.
Because Russo thought it was BS until it actually happened...
look at when freedom to fascism came out!
Oh almost forget again..
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
"All great truths begin as blasphemies."
The CIA and the FBI were
The CIA and the FBI were notified by a mossad agent. it didn't do any good did it!
"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson
I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain
I loved the video!
Now I remember why I liked disco!
END the FED before it ENDS US
A Challenge to Jerkoffsom and Can't Handle The Truth
Name a FACT or piece of EVIDENCE that would get you to admit your claim is wrong.
I would like to add this to it.
Lack of evidence is not evidence. Lack of evidence does not mean evidence of anything. Logic does not work this way. You can't just make a claim and say that there is a lack of evidence and then draw a conclusion from that.
Just like you can not make a claim no matter how much power
and control the elite has over media and government and force it upon a nation. There is no evidence for the official claim that would stand up in court.
Continue your billing session now!
CHA CHING!!
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
"All great truths begin as blasphemies."
What the hell kind of answer was that??
You are a BUFFOON.
Keep compiling your list
Keep compiling your list comrade... It's funny how you post 3-4 times as much on anything that has to do with 9/11. NOW WHY IS THAT CIA MAN?
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
Oh and don't forget this one Heckler!
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
"All great truths begin as blasphemies."
http://www.paulitesagainsttruthers.com
http://www.paulitesagains...
Now answer my challenge above.Quit dodging, asking questions, and trying to change the subject.
THE PEOPLE AGAINST TROLLS
Keep up the felatio heckler!
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
"All great truths begin as blasphemies."
I got your claim right here big guy!!!
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
"All great truths begin as blasphemies."
9/11 was privatized.
9/11 was privatized.
A stupid thread by any standard
Dr. Paul would just shake his head.
He would also shake his head at the number of trolls
perverting his good will.
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
"All great truths begin as blasphemies."
Why mention Trolls?
Again, the fact remains that the DP Truthers, such as yourself, when unable to defend any of their "facts", resort to name calling. As if that would change anything...
If you have something useful to say about 9/11 then just say it. Put it out there in the freemarket of ideas and see how it fairs. Defend it passionately. This thread is just plain stupid, an embaressment to any lover of free speech, and does no credit to a website that bears the name of Dr. Paul.
I mention trolls because we all know of the infiltration...
You are an exception to the rest of your colleagues who troll by name calling and complaining to mods... Free speech is just that free and you are welcome to your opinion.
"All great truths begin as blasphemies."
No actually we don't all know of the infiltration
As far as I can tell, only a few severely demented people here believe there is some sort of infiltration. Usually these individuals also resort to using name calling such as "shill" or "troll".
Or Heckler and I know how to deal with them...
http://www.blinkx.com/vid...
"All great truths begin as blasphemies."
You forgot to reply below
See my message about "leaving" the DP below...
bump for truth!
and for "felatioatthegate" - nice!
I'm sure you, paul4won, have given fellatio to hundreds of men.
You fit the profile. Gullible. Check. Stupid. Check. Worthless. Check. Easily manipulated. Check.
i think you hit a nerve, paul4won...
good job!
O Captain, My Captain, rise up and hear the bells!
When are you truthers going to start supporting Ron Paul?
Ron Paul doesn't want you associating his name with the truther movement. When are you going to start respecting his wishes?
When are you trolls going to hit another site...
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
"All great truths begin as blasphemies."
But I'm a Ron Paul supporter. Donated thousands of $
But I'm a Ron Paul supporter. I donated thousands of dollars to his cause. I read as much as I can about him and his theories. Why would I go to a different site?
You, on the other hand, don't seem to understand what his message is. You don't seem to listen to his wishes at all, which is to stop promoting 9/11 craziness using his name. If anything you should be going to a 9/11 forum on the web and "leave Ron Paul alone". Stop hurting his name!