
Rahm Emanuel, if you are on No Fly List, No Gun!
Submitted by sharpsteve on Sat, 01/31/2009 - 18:22
May 15, 2007 Congressman Rahm Emanuel (D-IL) speaking at DC's annual Stand Up For a Safe America event sponsored by the Brady Center says if your name is on the terrorist no fly list you should not be allowed to own a gun.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJBZZKlvrP4
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Why are there so many names on the U.S. government's terrorist list?
In September 2007, the Inspector General of the Justice Department reported that the Terrorist Screening Center (the FBI-administered organization that consolidates terrorist watch list information in the United States) had over 700,000 names in its database as of April 2007 - and that the list was growing by an average of over 20,000 records per month.1 (See also this new March 2008 report.2 )
http://www.usdoj.gov/oig/reports/plus/a0816/final.pdf
By those numbers, the list now has over one million names on it. Terrorist watch lists must be tightly focused on true terrorists who pose a genuine threat. Bloated lists are bad because:
* they ensnare many innocent travelers as suspected terrorists, and
* because they waste screeners' time and divert their energies from looking for true terrorists.
http://www.aclu.org/privacy/spying/watchlistcounter.html
Here is the original post in case they pull my post off YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=an8Moh3xuUs
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Rahm wants to get his ass handed to him.
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"Stop paying lip service to the Constitution,and OBEY IT!"-Ron Paul
Remember what the government
Remember what the government did with the Intelligence Authorization Act of 2004 when they redefined "financial institution"? It was very interesting how their new definition applied to old laws that were based on the true definition.
"Financial institution" was redefined by the government as: a bank, trust company, credit union, a delicatessen, a bodega, a restaurant, hotel, casino, travel agency, your lawyers office, your doctors office, your telephone company, your computer server, the post office, etc. To learn more about why that is significant, watch the following 35 minute speech by Judge Andrew Napolitano: http://www.reason.tv/video/show/178.html
So, with all that in mind. What if the government was to put all these new laws into effect such as if you're on the terrorist no fly list, terrorist this or that, spent money with an organization that is suspected of being connected to terrorism, etc, etc....
What if they do that, then redefine the terms terrorist and terrorism?
It's quite possible that in the future, wreckless driving will be labeled as terroristic driving, or spanking your kid in public would be family terrorism instead of domestic abuse, etc, etc.
What if the penalty, for whatever they want to call it, is no gun, no drivers license, no passport, no freedom (?), etc, etc? Then anyone who is convicted of whatever crime is labeled and losing all their liberties?
I totally wouldn't put it past the government to modify the dictionary again.
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Well, since this ridiculous list just grows and grows anyway...
...just get it overwith and put everybody on it.
If everybody's on the list, nobody gets a gun.
Gun control problem solved, right?
Geez. First this Rahm Emanuel wants mandatory national service, now this no fly list thing being connected with gun ownership. Enough already, Rahm.
...and to think they gave this guy a song...
Lasting gun control is only advanced under the GOP.
We still have the instant background check given to us by G.H.W. Bush.
We do not have the Clinton-Feinstein assault weapons act. It was allowed to sunset, because it faced opposition from Republicans.
Everything is party partisanism. If the Democrats in the Obama Administration touch gun control, they will be destroyed politically.
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Support the Constitution of the United States
SUPPORT OUR FOUNDERS' AMERICA
Support the Constitution of the United States
I don't want gun control.
I was being sarcastic because of this ever-growing no-fly list, and now this Rahm Emanuel apparently wanting to limit gun ownership rights based on it.
~shiver
A song?
I had not heard that.
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Yep, somebody came up with a mushy song for this guy.
Here's the link to legalizeliberty's thread on it. http://www.dailypaul.com/node/81377
Brace yourself. Listen to the words. I wrote them down in a post on that thread. Very bizarre the way people are lauding this guy like that.
Thanks a lot. I just threw
Thanks a lot. I just threw up my breakfast.
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Well we can always boycott the airlines...
"All great truths begin as blasphemies."
"Human beings with love and compassion are some of the most beautiful creatures in the universe... Those without are a plague on us all."
Have not flown for years - Carol Gotbaum ws the last straw
Death penalty without judge or jury for being drunk and obnoxious just seems a bit harsh to me. I don't think I will be supporting the airlines until they stop treating me like a criminal for flying.
Well, it sounds like...
she sort of did it to herself. I'll agree that they were negligent but she as an individual has some responsibility for her outrageous state of inebriation.
I would also like to point out that letting someone in her state onto an Airplane would have been the height of irresponsibility on the part of the Airline, and it surely wouldn't have helped her at all.
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More than 8 million on that list
This reporter was on the no fly list after reporting about the no fly list: http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/07/17/watchlist.chertoff/index.html
These people who share a name with someone on the list: http://www.truveo.com/No-Fly-List-Grounds-Wrong-Men/id/25316...
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Thanks for the links
Thanks for the links
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Rahm should be put on that list... The guy's dad is a terrorist
"All great truths begin as blasphemies."
"Human beings with love and compassion are some of the most beautiful creatures in the universe... Those without are a plague on us all."
Rahm himself
was in IDF in 1991
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Let me tell you about someone on that list
A young lady with a VERY unusual name - I have never met anyone else with it. She is an attorney, and in law school she worked on animals rights issues. (Unwad your panties. She wants your food treated humanely.) She is a complete sweetie, gentle heart, no desire to own a gun so she won't care... Well, except that she IS an attorney, maybe THIS will wake her up. It worked for me. I never WANTED a gun, then I realized they were telling me I CAN"T have a gun. (I still don't "want" a gun but I sure as hell am no longer without one.)
Anyway, she showed up on the list. As an attorney, she actually got off it... but they told her it was "another" person with her EXACT same name. I mean, this is like having 2 people named "Seven of Nine Picard!"
I'm on the list
I'm unfortunately on the list as well, and I've got a very common "John Smith-ish" name. It's a complete pain. Every time I check in, it takes me about 20 minutes and 2 forms of ID. They have to actually call upstairs to check and all that.
Fun story, I once literally froze 2 computers at the SouthWest Airlines terminal trying to check in. The 3rd computer finally got me through, but there were MANY scowling people behind me who then afterward only had one computer to go through for about 20 minutes. While I was getting checked in, ZERO people were being helped.
Real fun, let me tell you.
Eric Hoffer
What list is she on now?
Did she get put on the list of those who complain about being on a list? Now they don't stop her from flying but they still got an eye on her I bet. The Alleged hi-jackers on 9/11 were on a watch list too.
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not sure about her, but I found myself on a very odd list...
We got Christmas cards from Bush and Cheney.
Yeah, we made the Christmas card list... lol!
Christmas cards from Bush and Cheney
Now that's terrorism!
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Bump this up
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I funny thought just occurred to me -
I wonder if any military recruit on his way to boot camp denied boarding being on a no-fly list ?
Side note: I know there are active service people who can not own guns, because they were felons before or after enlisting/drafted. Also, news reports say that Soldiers are assaulting their spouses in record numbers as of late, which is often corporal injury, a felony > no guns for you. I understad there are police that fall in that catagory too.
Any DPer's on the No Fly
Any DPer's on the No Fly List?
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This is
an attempt to quell political dissent, pure and simple. Hitler had lists too.
Largest murder wasn't Hitler Might surprise you who it was
read about Stalin, Lenin and Marx then read about Genrikh Yagoda He was responsible for giving the go ahead for the death of 10 million people. Thats right 10MILLION! You wonder why history seems to leave this out? It might surprise you to learn that the largest Holocaust of the 20th Century had nothing to do with the Germans. It was the Jews that controlled the Communist Party killing Christians. Anyone who does any research will see what I said is 100% correct. Now why do you think this is left out of the history books???
The List
I noticed that the number of people on the no fly list is roughly the same number of people who voted for Ron Paul in the primaries. Hmmm.
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Rahm Emanuel's Daddy Was A Member Of Irgun...
http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/cgi-bin/blogs/voices.php/2008...
In Israel, the Irgun is referred to as Etzel, an acronym of the group's Hebrew initials. The Irgun was considered a terrorist organization by the British authorities as well as by mainstream Zionist and Jewish organizations, such as the Jewish Agency, the Haganah and the Histadrut. (It just has not made it onto the U.S. State Department's list of terrorist organizations – even after blowing up the World Trade Center. Some people are slow to learn.)
Irgun was founded by Ze'ev Jabotinsky and the relationship with Jabotinsky's Revisionist Zionism made it the predecessor to Israel's right-wing Herut and Likud parties.
Guess who runs Israel today?
Answer: The sons and daughters of Irgun. (Check out the commander list on the Etzel website if you don't believe me.)
Guess who runs the United States today? The same people – let's start with Rahm Emanuel.
Of course you won't find anything Rep. Emanuel's father's exploits in Palestine on Rahm's website.
The late Sherman Skolnick of Chicago called Rahm Emanuel the "Acting Deputy Chief for North America of the Mossad – Israeli Intelligence.
Skolnick went on to say that Emanuel's father Benjamin had been "part of the Israeli assassin team that murdered Sweden's Count [Folke] Bernadotte" in 1948. Bernadotte was the envoy of the United Nations in Palestine who sought to find a solution to the UN Partition Plan that gave Palestinian land to Jews from "beyond the pale."
Rahm was an Israeli citizen until he was 18 years old, when for obvious reasons he hid his Israeli passport in his underwear drawer. In 1991, however, he pulled his Israeli passport out and went and reportedly joined the Israeli Army to defend Zion from Saddam's Scuds.
Irgun, the army of his father, is short for Irgun Zvai Leumi, which supposedly means something like "National Military Organization" in Hebrew. As a matter of fact, the Irgun was simply a terrorist Zionist group that operated in Palestine from 1931 to 1948. They killed innocent Palestinians and British soldiers and blew up buildings.
After 1948 they became part of the new Israeli government and did the same thing. In September 2001 they put their skills to work in New York City and Washington to kick start the "war on terror" - a conflict long promoted by their chief architect, Bibi Netanyahu, son of the former secretary of Ze'ev Jabotinsky. [Ze'ev's former name was Vladimir]
http://www.etzel.org.il/
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Interesting
Thanks for the info
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False positive
There are way to many false positives on that list. this can't get enacted. With all the other anti gun legislation they are already doing, ....only a outlaw will own a gun.
I consider this man to be constitutional terrorist, he frightens
he frightens me...
He should be placed on the unemployment list, and then on a court docket awaiting trial for treason against the people of the united states...
Okay, now I feel better!
Who has hand cuffs?
Lets face it, the reason why the revolution does not nab these NEOCONs by citizens arrest, is the self awareness, that if taken to a local police station, the citizen wanting to book the arrest will be laughed out and the CON-CRIM will be set free.
There must be a nationwide effort, to create in all states, cities and towns, a jail, run by the citizens, for such things as citizens arrest.
(I'll bet that lawyers would love this new business upstart)
Where fingerprinting, photographing and jailing are done with professional confidence. Where the accused is held, and transported to court where a judge hears the charges against them and sets a trial date...
Oh well, could happen. Care to comment?
Daryl
I like it
But I think they would not laugh you out, they would lock you up.
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So just being on a list..
...with out judge or jury or accusor, is good enough to violate the 2nd Amendment? Fun times ahead.............
But isn't the 'no fly' list secret?
Not that the logic doesn't follow their normal path of thinking, but if you're on their watch list - and no one tells you - how would your know?
I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...
I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...
yeah
That is a great point.
I can't recall what film explained this type of thing under the patriot act.
Anyone remember what film explained the secret list part of the patriot act ?