-lock topic please

Considering that's the first step to any of these concerns, why aren't we working to get Ron Paul the republican nomination for president?

As an independent (versus Republican) strong supporter of Ron Paul, I think that its important for my fellow independents to consider refraining from advocating non-Republican tactical suggestions for Ron Paul until the Primary bridge is crossed.

I, personally, see my country benefiting from a coalition of certain elements that the two-party system has effectively constrained. Ron Paul has criticized the two-party system on more than one occasion.

But I am refraining from advocating that position, at this point, because Ron Paul is currently endeavoring to acquire the Republican nomination.

There will come a time when the advocacy of an alignment of certain political forces will fall on more receptive ears.

Shhh!

He's also anti-2nd amendment. And for expanding the social programs.

Here's some more info for you about how Paul and Kucinich are polar opposites. From the Huffington Post: An article by Dennis Kucinich "5. The United States will abandon policies of "preemption" and unilateralism and commit to strengthening the UN."

George Bush gave a speech before the U.N. stating that attacking Iraq would legitimize the United Nations and put teeth into their resolutions.

This is completely different from a Ron Paul stance. He wants us out of the sovereignty killing U.N. He wants the U.N. to leave the United States and never return. America can never be free if we have to answer to any other country.

The reason why I'm spending so much time with this is because I have heard with my own ears at Ron Paul events suggestions that Kucinich would be a good running mate. He may be against the Iraq war but for very different reasons as Ron Paul. Ron Paul opposes the war from a constitutional/freedom worldview and Kucinich opposes it from a globalist/socialist worldview.

"Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations – entangling alliances with none." ~ Thomas Jefferson

Here's the whole post
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rep-dennis-kucinich/there-is-o...

Given that Fuzzydevil00 has been a dailypaul member for, oh, six hours, has it occurred to anyone else that he's merely a Kucinich supporter trying to advertise on our boards? The insanity of this debate must stop. Not only should Paul and Kucinich never be on the same ticket together, but "Dennis Kucinich as VP" leading the 'Active Forum Topics' area when I log on makes me cringe like no other.

"Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together."
-Dwight D. Eisenhower

Sorry, Dennis lost it with the UFO thing - to be attached to him in anyway now is suicide.
I dont doubt for one minute that there is intelligent life *somewhere* in the Universe... and probably even in our own galaxy... but to transverse space at faster than light speed... probably impossible. If not impossible then a species that is THAT intellectually advanced, we would never be able to detect even if they were *watching* Dennis is a now classified in my book as a "kook", what little respect I had, I lost...

I would like to thank tom on clarifying the second amendment issue :)

And again thanks guys at least one of ya provided something to backup an argument with :)

Instead of, IM RIGHT CAUSE I SAY SO !

and then you mine as well be supporting bush

Pretty much the only thing that Kucinich and Paul agree on is that we need to get out of Iraq.

Both are men of principle, but what you must understand is that Dennis Kucinich's set of principles is based upon the idea that the rights of the collective trump the rights of the individual. Kucinich believes in big government and socialism, not free markets. I cannot think of two of the current group of Presidential candidates whose views are more diametrically opposed. I get worried when I read suggestions like this because it makes me think that some of Dr. Paul's supporters don't really know the moral underpinnings of his freedom message.

Seriously, you have no idea what Ron Paul stands for by making such a suggestion. Kucinich is a socialist. Just because they're both against the Iraq war means nothing. 70%+ of America is against the Iraq war.

Kucinich from his own website. "Kucinich is currently drafting legislation that would ban the purchase, sale, transfer, or possession of handguns by civilians. A gun buy-back provision will be included in the bill."

That to me makes him very dangerous. Don't be fooled. He is nothing like Ron Paul. Some anti-war activists are admitted hardcore communists. Just because they are anti-war doesn't mean that Ron Paul agrees with them. Paul and Kucinich have completely opposing world-views.

http://kucinich.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentI...

I would never vote for anyone else, ever and hopefully I wont have to.

I like balance, they are both very truthful very outspoken very experienced politicians and neither is corrupt.

I think thats what we need honestly, and its hard to find

realistically if he did choose him he would sweep the whitehouse in a heartbeat

Troll.

He is a man of principle. He also refers to himself as " an unshakable foe of abortion"- I really think that it would do his pro choice supporters some good to listen to him speak on this topic....

Ron Paul Dennis Kucinich

pro life pro choice

small gov't large gov't

low tax high tax

He will choose a libertarian/ conservative.

That is a very nice video, and it elevated him in my eyes. Thank you for linking it. But I've heard him say that he wants universal health care, and a constitutional federal government has no business being involved in health care. That's socialistic. I admit that I don't know his other stances, but his stance on that one is enough for me not to consider him as Dr. Paul's running mate.

The only thing they have in common is a non-interventionist foreign policy and the fact that they are friends. Otherwise, you couldn't find more dissimilar candidates. Paul is a limited government Constitutionalist, while Kucinich is a big government socialist. Paul might as well put Rudy on the ticket.

NJ is the strictest state in america when it comes to guns...

Our crime rate is a little tiny tiny bit lower then average

Our violent crime rate is ALOT lower then average, I think the lowest besides a few almost unpopulated (in comparison) states.

can I still get a gun ? yes

could I get one if I raped a girl ? no

okay so you guys are against background checks and licenses for guns, got it !

http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Dennis_Kucinich_Gun_Control.htm

In one of his interviews that he and Dennis were good friends.