How the Over-Paid Campaign Staff Let Ron Down --- Again

Moles in campaigns are nothing new in fact they are to be expected. I read the Pillsbury piece a couple or three weeks ago via e-mail and from my background, I know it to be true.

I've known Ron for years and he always supports his staff no matter what. Sometimes it has taken years before he see the light. That is because he is a good honorable man and wants to see the good in everyone. Sometimes it just takes him longer to see what is going on because of the trust factor. That is not a bad thing but in a short time campaign cycle it can be deadly. I personally know that several people have documented pages of proof of inadequacies. It is too soon for Ron to see them as accurate. He has come further than he ever thought he would and largely we the volunteers have made that happen although I think he gives a lot of credit to the campaign.

When you look at all the top notch political advisors out there today - John Shroate, Richard McBride, Dennis Whitfield, Bill Lee etc., etc., it is hard to know why Ron isn't using them. Again, I believe that he believes his staff has a large role in where he is today. Not that he doesn't give all volunteers a large amount of credit as well - he does - but that does not negate his feelings about the competency of his staff.

I have also noticed that when other campaigns have "spokesmen" on national TV they have the honorary chairmen in the state, volunteers or people of the caliber mentioned above. I have been in and managed a lot of campaigns and the rule of thumb was that the staff be invisible. I don't think a press conference announcing the results of Ron's money bomb by Kent was appropriate and if the staff are professional at all they would know this. They would also be familiar with the AP day book.

Just "getting over this" and going on is tantamount to getting the majority to vote for Ron and then having no ballot security. In the long run you loose either way if you don't address the problems at hand. I think there are enough of us to keep up the good volunteer work and monitor any inadequacies we see in the campaign as well. It doesn't have to be either or.

Although many staff inadequacies and documentation of them come to mind, I have to use the word sabotage when I speak of ballot security for the upcoming elections. No one on Ron's staff is doing anything about it and in fact in a couple of conference calls I have been on, they seem to resent those volunteers who are taking things into their own hands. That attitude is either complete inexperience (given some of their backgrounds or lack thereof, that may be the case) or sabotage. There is just no other way to look at it from where I am standing.

I truly believe the best thing to do is for all of us across the nation to run Ron's campaign just as we are doing. When staff gets involved as they did in the once independent meetup groups, they want to control.

After months of dealing with them I think the volunteers just need to "roll" in planning events and a ballot security program as well as keep an eye on the campaign but not involve them.

Any criticism of the staff goes through Kent and I bet Ron never sees most of it. A couple of my close friends have talked on the phone to Ron about this directly so I know that approaching him about this is irrating and unbelievable becasue of how well he sees himself doing.

He is a wonderful human being and I think we should not just "move on" but "move around" the staff. That is the only way we will get him elected.

I've posted on here before and have been blasted so as someone else stated - please don't blast me for an opinion.

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People inside and outside of this movement don't know what they are talking about alot of the time.
Not because they are un-intelligent or insincere....but because they are trying to read the situation through worldly eye sight rather than spiritual vision. Its kind of like night vision lenses. Things look almost opposite to what they are. the outcome keeps exceeding expectations. We do better everytime we get hit.
First, I have met this campaign team face to face. They are sincere, honest, hard working people. They may not be "slick" enough for some but they are principled. So all this talk about internal sabotage is BULLSPATTER.
This campaign is a classic David vs. Goliath story. We should by now realize that the more we are attacked, the happier we should be. It has served us well everytime. Not just because it serves to garner more attention. But because they are attacking an ambassador of God. Real simple-like it or not-that is what's happening.
I have first hand experience that this is true.
So BE HAPPY!

If this was a genuine mistake...then something can be learned from it. If it was something else, I believe people have been made aware and will be watching. Ron Paul has one of the smallest and youngest staffs of any of the candidates...and I'm sure their working hard...let's give them the benefit of the doubt...but quietly suggest...they do better next time.

On the PR people...did Gandhi need a PR person? Did Martin Luther King need PR people? Actions...speak much louder than words my friends!!!

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I think it's a little early for any theories just yet. Mistakes inevitably will happen, it's jut a question of how many and to what extent. Obviously there are areas in which the campaign has needs, lets identify them and help ensure they are resolved successfully.

Ok this is terrible. I have had scary thoughts about the whole campaign.
What if they do not want to win never thought of winning and didnt expect this support?

What if they have to try now to not win?
On Leno RP said "it's now a risk we might win" as if he wasn't wanting to?

He has to know the people he hired? Such as this lobbiest guy?
He never drops the name if his site on live appearances or talk shows.....

now this is getting retarded here but still possible.
People in the "truth movement" claim Alex Jones is a Shill used to divert attention from real leaders which I wont go too much into. I do happen to believe this may be highly possible.
Whats the best way to divert..... control the alternate media/ AJ is way behind RP which wouldnt be true if something fishy wasnt brewing.
Sure RP has the solid record but when you're working on a plan such as this that has been in the makes for 50+ years you need a "Dr. No" on the inside.... it wouldn't hurt the agenda cause he would be the only one voting that way and make no effect. it would gain a loyal following though.

either way if he was a NWO, Anti Christ or whatever I am whole heartedly behind him and supporting and spreading the word.
I am just scared because of a lot of mistakes and messups and things that I do see as sabatoge.

Please do NOT flame me for having an opinion. I am fully behind him and staying behind him.

God no. Not another "Allen Hacker derailed the Michael Badnarik campaign" fiasco (Google is your friend). I had a feeling this would happen eventually. I just never figured it would start before we even got any bad news.

*If* Paul doesn't win, his entire campaign team should change their names and retreat to a remote Montana cabin for six months, before the villagers come knocking with torches and pitchforks.

*sigh*

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about what his job function entailed in the campaign as Communications Director just a couple of weeks ago. He told me it was his responsibility to communicate directly with the MSM. It seems this inexcusable major screw-up lies directly with him. I think we need to let Ron Paul know exactly how we feel about this but obviously it is up to Ron Paul to deal with this problem.

If anyone believes the N W O crowd (NeoCons -- and I'm being polite in that description) -- doesn't have BILLIONS to hire sleepers to sabotage any effort that threatens the Ruling Elite -- please WAKE THE HECK UP !!!

The portal through which apparent BAD APPLES have been placed on the Ron Paul Campaign staff is through the bad part of the LIBERTARIAN MOVEMENT. Charles Koch, billionaire, great friend of the Bush family, head of Koch Industries (a clone of Haliburton with BIG contracts in Iraq RIGHT NOW ), is the FOUNDER and FUNDER of the Cato Institute. His money also took over the Libertarian Party at the top in 1981. Go to Wikipedia for Charles Koch to get a pretty good bare bones summary.

Cato Institute and related Koch (pronounced Coke) money people is how BAD APPLES were apparently planted in the Ron Paul campaign.

Google "Enemy Within: Cato's Covert Agenda" by Melissa Pillsbury-Foster --- here blog is www.HowTheNeoConsStoleFre...

I am sure this will not happen again. We need to get over this. :-]

Do you really think his staff is overpaid compared to others?

I don't get it. So the Ron Paul campaign didn't publicly advertise a press conference and then there was no press conference... It sounds like very compitent work to me!

I read the campaign manager is the guy who ran Pat Buchanon's campaign buchanon did really good running I beleieve third party

I didn't read anything in the philadelphia inquire + daily news but it's tough the sunday paper is the only newspaper and sometimes if news doesn't come in they don't get reported till mon but I saw anything I bought the paper to specifically see something

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You read a article from some journalist and start internal trouble with a campaign thats whoopin ass. Think about it.

He has a point. Ron Paul has a huge grassroots volunteer campaign. In the early going we are flying by the seat of our pants. We are learning as we go and doing a lot of things better the second time around.

For your intelligent and insightful analysis. You made so many excellent points -- but one struck me greatly...... Move the campaign to Texas --- OUT of "Inside the Beltway" with its accompanying bureaucratic mentality. The real campaign is out here - That's where the Revolution is.

So now that Ron Paul is at least doubling his poll #s in the last month you want to fire his staff. Who are you working for?

I'm sure Ron Paul is going home with the ones who brought him to the dance. Let's just help his staff make his home the White House.

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Sabatoge will be an ongoing problem that will loom larger as Dr Paul becomes more of a threat to the front runners.

Expect continued dirty tricks from the GOP neo-con Kool Aid drinkers. They are being paid by their campaigns to cause mischef in any and all opposing candidate's organizations.

There's nothing new here; this a fact of political life. This has happened to Ron Paul in his past congressional races by the way.

We must always stay vigilant as to who we allow on our state campaign committees. I have seen this kind of foolishness too many times to count over the years.

We cannot court every 'Republican' in every county. Simply because they can't all be trusted.

Find a small hard core of trustworthy staff for your county and stick with them.

Be careful of a big donar that appears from nowhere. Be careful of "true believers" who try to blow you away with activism.

This is going to be a knock-down drag-out bare-knukle campaign to the White House and, we still haven't encountered the thuggish marxists of the Clinton campaign yet.

Get ready.

Expect anything to happen; then, immediately deal with it, cut the head off of the serpant.

Don't just sit around a whine.

If that's true, it's really not good. Paul Mulshine is very favorable to Ron Paul and generally non-hysterical columnist.

I am a passionate supporter of this campaign and the message Dr. Paul is delivering. I've been lurking on the Daily Paul without an account, and without comment, for long enough. I read everything on here, so I am up to date as to what we're talking about and how this will effect the overall efforts of the grassroots organization, as well as the official campaign. I have contributed lots of time, money and patience to this campaign so far. I applaud EVERY one of our volunteers, staffers, webmasters, graphic designers, patriots and all around supporters for their contribution to this REVOLUTION. We are making history right now just discussion LIBERTY, FREEDOM, SOUND MONEY, and the Rule of Law.

Folks, the above topic is an extremely important issue we need to deal with immediately or it will be the downfall of this entire campaign.

A few questions I would like to pose:

#1. Why is Ron Paul not more publicly utilizing his strongest Texas campaign staffers for this national election process? They got him elected to Congress how many times? For how many years? If it was my campaign, I'd want my HQ to be based in Texas with an office in the DC/Virginia area. Let my most trusted and experienced people represent me. The national campaign manager, press manager, liasons, and marketing team should be EXPERIENCED with dealing with any situation that may come up in a national campaign. I can't even imagine how the people in Texas feel about this... let's give them our support to make sure the right people are serving the right roles. We can move people around, and if done correctly, other than some bruised egos we can do it without much damage.

#2. Do the paid campaign staffers have experience running a national Presidential campaign. If not, what IS there experience? No campaign is perfect, but if we're going to WIN, we must step up our efforts to present the most professional, Presidential appearing campaign that appeals to the widest audience of voters as possible. This is not brain surgery, but we need precision when it comes to how we deal with the press, how we deal with the media invitations, voters, volunteers, and the other campaigns. WE NEED TO BE BETTER THAN THEM. We need to go the extra mile and remain cool, calm and UNIFIED. We can't do that if our official campaign is at odds with the media and with the grassroots efforts.

Fact: in support of a large rally a press conference was called, but it was NOT properly announced or advertised through the proper channels to reach the media

Solution: all announcements of official events, press conferences, dealings with media should go through Ron Paul's media/press manager and should be up to par with national Presidential candidate standards. If it doesn't get listed, someone should be held responsible and make sure it NEVER happens again. No excuses. NONE. What are we thinking here? We want to make it as EASY as possible for the press to cover our campaign. NO BARRIERS.

Fact: reporters (supposedly only 2) showed up for the conference, then it gets cancelled, then the reporters are turned away

Solution: no reporter should EVER be turned away, especially if there are only 2 of them. A proper response to the reporters would have been to arrange to have them be able to ask ONE question since there wasn't any time to have a proper press conference. If not at that very minute, then have them write it on a card and submit it to Ron to answer before they leave. TREAT ALL PRESS WITH RESPECT. This is a PUBLIC RELATIONS game. Nothing matters except for PERCEPTIONS. If the press believes they are being treated unfairly or (GOSH FORBID) rudely, they will reflect that in their reporting. ESPECIALLY from the Campaign *MANAGER*. Rudeness to anyone from the press is unexceptable. Rudeness with an apology is better, but still needs to be nipped in the bud.

This is going to get worse before it gets better. We need to deal with this right now. TODAY. If a Ron Paul supporter makes a statement like "they aren't even smiling" or "they lack enthusiasm" or "why are WE doing all the work", whether that perception is correct or not, it tells me we have a problem.

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Give the campaign a break! They are dong a great job with limited money!
They are not overpayed. Look at Romneys crew or McCains crew and you tell me the Ron Paul team ain't da best! They have a very small staff and they are rocking!
We need to raise more money!!
12 million for the quarter is peanuts. Mailers and advertising are expensive. Name recognition takes time and or $$$$. We have very little time left! so we need to raise more $$$$$ fast!
Send Ron Paul and his campaign staff a present in cash this Thanksgiving.

And be thankful for the hard work they are doing!! Encourage one another and build each other up!

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The conspiracy to keep Paul out of the media is being conducted within the campaign? well, I don't think they are ignoring him nearly as much as before, perhaps Paul does need a media professional on staff, he just might not have anyone with the kind of experience and clout to organize press conferences like the other guys

Mostly though, I think the media really had NO interest in him before 11/5 and they are trying to make sure Paul's first exposure to a lot of people isn't something that can be spun negatively, not that they're doing a great job. And lastly, I'm sure they get a lot of email, I've never sent them anything but i'm sure they get a lot. I've written several places that promise to respond in time and never do. A tip is to mark your letter as -urgent response needed- in the subject, really

This was already a posted thread a few days ago.

I would ask the reporter, though, why is it the "television" media seemed to know what was going on and were there filming (including a live remote with CNN following the rally with Ron), but not "you" or some of your fellow reporters? Was it "all" on the RP staffers' side...let's be honest.

I'm not excusing staff if they fell down on the job, but I'm not going to kick them and keep them down there either. Get up and move on...bigger fish to fry :-)

Based on my reading of the article and my own experience, I tend to concur with the general point of this thread.

About a week before Nov. 5th, I emailed the campaign but I never heard back from anyone. My email basically went like this: "I want to donate to the campaign on Nov. 5th, but before I do so I have this one simple question".

I got an auto-generated response back saying that I would get a reply to my question. I never did.

I ended up donating on 11/5, anyway.

This thread was posted yesterday under the title 'no news is bad news'-so it is important news to at least two people,and warrants consideration,not total agreement or dismissal.however, RP is in charge of his staff,not us. Our opinions count,but we were not there in this particular instance.

Rule #1 for holding a press conference is to notify the press! This reporter accurately notes that the Ron Paul campaign failed to notify the press of their press conference.

It wouldn't surprise me to learn that mistakes like this is why the media hasn't covered Ron Paul nearly as much as we would like.

Say what you will about the media, and some of it is sure to be true, but if you don't tell them something is going on, they aren't going to know to show up!