Nobody can sell any ammunition after June 30, 2009

Gun dealers experiencing shortages of bullets

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orl-bullets1009feb...

Some say it began with the election of President Barack Obama. Others say it's about the economic downturn or fear of crime. Whatever the reasons, ammunition has been selling like plywood and bottled water in the days before a hurricane.

"The survivalist in all of us comes out," said John Ritz, manager of East Orange Shooting Sports in Winter Park. "It's more about protecting what you have."

Demand for bullets is so strong that suppliers are restricting deliveries.

(Full article at above link)

G. Gordon Liddy's Will has an account where he poured box after box of .22s on a Nixon bureaucrat's desk to show him the futility of serializing every bullet.

the market, then someone will act to provide that product or service, even if it's in opposition to the civil law. It happened during prohibition and it continues to happen with officially-illegal drugs, despite the so-called war on drugs. When one considers the populations of our prison system, with people who are often handcuffed, locked in steel cages, subjected to strip searches and guarded by people with electronic monitoring equipment and even guns, they can't even keep drugs out of the hands of those prisoners. And I'm supposed to believe that they'll be able to keep those drugs out of the hands of the general population, who are still far less restricted in their movements? While I am flatly opposed to such ammunition-coding provisions and restrictions, they're not going to cut off access to uncoded ammunition; it will only make the price higher. The politicians proposing these regulatory measures do so at their own peril. The plan actually sounds like it came from comedian Pat Paulsen (formerly of the Smothers Brothers comedy hour show) who, during the LBJ years, was conducting a presidential campaign (of sorts). One of the parts of his speech was intended to lampoon the gun-rights crowd by saying that "guns are not the real problem". "The real problem is bullets" and that, if elected, he would let people have all the guns that they wanted but would lock up all of the bullets. Sounded kinda funny then; doesn't sound quite so funny now.

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There are several BILLION uncoded rounds out there, both fresh and reloads. There is no way in the world the feds have the manpower or ability to enforce it. Ditto the states.

Besides, it's easily beatable with ammo mules, swap meets, and other methods. Besides, they'll need to code the cartridges and the bullets in order to actually trace anything, and shotgun shells would be impossible--every pellet?. Any reloader worth their salt can switch bullets and cartridges easily.

They dreamed up a similar idea here in CA last session, where each new firearm sold in CA would be required to imprint the firearm serial number on each cartridge and bullet it shoots. That died quickly when it was pointed out that people can simply pick up their brass, alter or change out the barrel, or change trigger mechanisms--thank you, Eli Whitney.

One of these days these gun-grabbers will realize that they've lost and quit trying.

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NEW SECTION. Section 2. Legislative declarations of authority. The legislature declares that the authority for [sections 1 through 7] is the following:

(1) The 10th amendment to the United States constitution guarantees to the states and their people all powers not granted to the federal government elsewhere in the constitution and reserves to the state and people of Montana certain powers as they were understood at the time that Montana was admitted to statehood in 1889. The guaranty of those powers is a matter of contract between the state and people of Montana and the United States as of the time that the compact with the United States was agreed upon and adopted by Montana and the United States in 1889.

(2) The ninth amendment to the United States constitution guarantees to the people rights not granted in the constitution and reserves to the people of Montana certain rights as they were understood at the time that Montana was admitted to statehood in 1889. The guaranty of those rights is a matter of contract between the state and people of Montana and the United States as of the time that the compact with the United States was agreed upon and adopted by Montana and the United States in 1889.

(3) The regulation of intrastate commerce is vested in the states under the 9th and 10th amendments to the United States constitution, particularly if not expressly preempted by federal law. Congress has not expressly preempted state regulation of intrastate commerce pertaining to the manufacture on an intrastate basis of firearms, firearms accessories, and ammunition.

(4) The second amendment to the United States constitution reserves to the people the right to keep and bear arms as that right was understood at the time that Montana was admitted to statehood in 1889, and the guaranty of the right is a matter of contract between the state and people of Montana and the United States as of the time that the compact with the United States was agreed upon and adopted by Montana and the United States in 1889.

(5) Article II, section 12, of the Montana constitution clearly secures to Montana citizens, and prohibits government interference with, the right of individual Montana citizens to keep and bear arms. This constitutional protection is unchanged from the 1889 Montana constitution, which was approved by congress and the people of Montana, and the right exists as it was understood at the time that the compact with the United States was agreed upon and adopted by Montana and the United States in 1889.

http://data.opi.mt.gov/bills/2009/billhtml/HB0246.htm

2/28/2008 - Second Read and Referred S Judiciary and Civil & Criminal Jurisprudence Committee.
Action last took ,Check out date. We have a new congress. I tried searching for bill on MO senate website and the bill does not exist at this time.
http://www.senate.mo.gov/08info/BTS_Web/Bill.aspx?SessionTyp...

My attorney told me that another FFL client had a cache of guns that was mysteriously stolen out of private storage. I guess registered serialized ammo can be stolen too ? Would you be responsible ?

Side note: My Japanese brother-in-law in Japan has a permit to own guns and told me, that if his guns are stolen, he has to go to jail until they are recovered. I find that hard to believe. Incidentally he has been in the hospital since the end of November suffering from a gun shot wound while hunting wild boars in the mountains of Tokunoshima, Island. A fellow hunter slipped and accidentally shot him in the stomach through his ass with a .30 cal. carbine . Bad.

Its a good thing that all these states are trying to protect themselves by declaring sovereignty.

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I found out that the 2008 bill in PA died in committee. Trust, but verify. A 2009 bill hasn't been introduced in PA yet.

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was "shot down" last year in the state house according to State Senator Ron Gould (R) Arizona. I emailed him and he replied that it did not pass when submitted last year. Still, stock up while you can!

Its not hard.

your local government's butt off when they overstep their bounds and restrict interstate trade. I'm sure Uncle Sam would have your back on that one... He wouldn't want to let a State chip away at the interstate commerce clause.

Since I am in Missouri, I looked at SB1200 that is referenced in the article. This was a bill in 2008 which died last August.

So I am wondering how many of the other references to bills in other states last year.

I doubt it will pass, or stand long after it is passed. Besides, it will just start people buying ammo in 'free states' that don't require encoding. (only 18 states are proposing it)

It sounds stupid enough to become law but I have the feeling it will be stopped cold.

I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...

And how can I be tracked if I pay cash?

It doesn't take much to make ammo -- back in the Revolution almost every gun owner needed to make their own bullets.

Hopefully the manufacturing business will be spread so we will all know how to melt down and forge our own ammo.

Hell, on myth busters they showed that you can kill someone just by squishing used cig butts into a rifle.

The only one this is really hurting is the sport enthusiasts and the manufacturers.

Doesn't it just figure that Washington state would be included in this.