Twelve Maxims of the Movement.

Or somebody that we like that can win, now that Ron is retiring to his old ways.

DAILY PAUL MAXIMS (12)
• ENFORCE OATH TO OBEY CONSTITUTION(USC), ESPECIALLY THE 9TH AND 10TH AMENDMENTS. EACH BILL MUST CITE WHAT WORDS IN USC SUPPORT ITS PURPOSE AND SCOPE. THIS CITATION TO BE SUPPORTED BY 75% SUPERMAJORITY
• SUPPORT US CONSTITUTION AND AMEND AS REQUIRED ONLY USING CONSTITUTIONAL PROCESS
• INVALIDATE 14TH US AMENDMENT BECAUSE OF USE OF MILITARY FORCE OF THREAT DURESS AND COERCION ON ELECTED OFFICIALS TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF PASSAGE; REPEAL 16TH AND 17TH US AMENDMENTS AND LAWS SUPPORTED BY THEM
• EXPOSE AND CORRECT AND PREVENT VOTE COUNT CORRUPTION, BAN ELECTRONIC VOTE
• NO POLITICAL PARTIES, ONLY INDIVIDUALS AND THEIR BELIEFS
• END THE FED, SOUND NON-FIAT MONEY, GOLD/SILVER STANDARD
• REPEAL ALL UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAWS, EXEC ORDERS, DEPTS, COURT ORDERS
• JUST COME HOME, NO ENTANGING ALLIANCES, NO PRE-EMPTIVE WAR, AND NO SETUP WAR

Just eight so far... They need to be bumper stickers, yet not vague.. and since this will never see the front page... why are we here? If you have to search for this topic, and nobody has seen it for 5 days

Are we just a blah blah site and extension of youtube? Just a what is ron doing website? Ron Paul groupees website? What are accomplishing here? We are preaching to the choir, and we don't sing good. Good words, but the tune will not sell in this form. Look there are only 274 viewers, not thousands or millions.

Floridapanhandle

Here are a few federal level suggestions:

1) End the drug war and legalize drugs; possibly regulate substances potent enough to be considered WMD’s.
2) Reaffirm that the 2nd amendment was put there as a check on government power. Allow private ownership of militarily useful weaponry.
3) Repeal the income tax, payroll taxes and any tax other requiring federal knowledge of economic activity taking place within our borders. Fund the federal government via tariffs on goods and people (immigration)
4) End the Fed, fiat money and any ‘lender of last resort’ or FDIC style deposit insurance schemes. Let people choose their own money, and conduct all federal business in specie Gold and/or Silver.
5) Reaffirm and regularize states right to secession.
6) Reapply our armed forces to directly protect the integrity of the US proper. Seal borders both over land, sea and air, and regularize traffic across them. Let the world outside America defend themselves if they should feel like it.
7) Don’t interfere in other countries internal affairs, unless there is reason to believe they are planning an immediate attack on the US.
8) Don’t interfere with American individuals’ decisions with regards to trade and contacts with people outside our borders, as long as any goods or persons crossing the border do so in a regular fashion.
9) End all federal trade, licensing, securities, union, wage etc. laws. Let anyone have a crack at anything anytime anywhere, and let free relations decide the social and economic outcomes.
10) Get rid of federal recognition of ‘implicit contracts’, ‘community standards’ and similar going beyond the criminal code, and then only with criminal case standards of proof. For a civil suit to gain standing in federal court, the plaintiff should be forced to produce an explicitly agreed on contract that he feels the defendant has violated. No ‘Nader’, tobacco or divorce suits in federal courts, and no federal mandate that one state must comply with findings from another’s local courts.

but it is one that would be more of a goal than a platform ...

First remember that population at the time of the formation of the constitution was 1/100 of what it is today.

Second remember that GDP at the time of the formation of the constitution was 1/3000 of what it is today.

Here is what I say should happen ...

The number of people in the HoR should be determined by GDP. That would put the number of Representatives at over 1.2 million. Now that is quite unrealistic, but lets go ahead and knock a couple of zeros off and start from there. That would put it at just over 12,000. Devy them up based on State GDP and gerymander accordingly. If we get a 1% GDP growth then the HoR grows by 1% and devied up again based on state GDP.

The number of people in the Senate should be determined by total population. That would be approx. 10,000 senators or 200 per state. Again, lets knock a couple a zeros off and start from there. Let's say it is 200 or 4 per state to start, but will grow with the population. For every 50 million growth in the population, another senator from each state gets added.

1. Could you imagine the budgets that the lobbiest would need.

2. Much more accountability.

3. The process would grind to a near halt. Each bill would have to be very small and have one single issue.

4. It would virtually eliminate the earmark, or put the govt. into bankruptcy very very quickly.

WAHOR!!
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/48994

The common sentiment here is not that we need a new platform. We have the Constitution already and 16th and 17th amendment was passed unlawfully, so it's not really part of it anyway. And we have to figure out how to enforce the Constitution.

1. Follow the Constitution strictly word by word (except 16th and 17th amendment)

2. Re-establish the Militia of the Several States to defend State rights and the Constitution. (abolish army national guards, return full control of the Militia to the States, also make all weaponry available to general public, the Militia got to be as good as the US Army, if that's not attainable, just down grade the US Army and Air Force)

3. Return the rights of education back to parents and families, no more Federal or State run government schools.

4. De-regulate banking and financial system, return to the sound money system in the Constitution, allow free market to work.

But I do think this is a futile activity. No one can keep the Constitution. We can't even keep the Ten Commandments, and that's just 10! However good the system is, we will also fail it. Not because the system, but because humans are evil inherently. So, unless we are reformed spiritually, no system will work.

...or Else.

Ok, some basic maxims. Let me know what you guys think:

1. Only gold and silver are real money - audit the federal reserve and take away it's power.

2. Our rifles protect our freedom - abolish the BATFE.

3. The income tax is immoral - repeal the 16th amendment

4. War must be declared by congress. End the 130 U.S. foreign occupations.

5. End cannabis prohibition

6. Abolish the FDA.

7. End federal corporate taxes

8. Abolish federal minimum wage

9. Give power back to county sheriffs. Take power from FBI and CIA.

10. Abolish Homeland Security

11. End farm subsidies

What do you guys think? Anything workable here?

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All power residing originally in the people, and being derived from them, the several magistrates and officers of government, vested with authority, whether legislative, executive, or judicial, are their substitutes and agents, and are at all times accountable to them.

Who says?
We say!
But who are we?
We're the People!
(We're the People?)
(The ones government agents are supposed to be accountable to?)

Really?
What happened?

To answer this question, you must first ask “How did we get a government in the first place?”

Answer: The government of THIS Commonwealth (Massachusetts) was created by the towns...

What is a town? Simply put, it's us! But do we call upon our towns to hold the agents of the government they created accountable?

Generally, no.

These days, more often than not, our towns are beholden to the government they created because the government they created has passed all manner of laws that are:

1. repugnant to the law by which it was created,and

2.act directly upon the individual, thereby circumventing his town and the protection it could and should afford him.

Now, let's dream a little...

What IF instead of going to any of the three departments of our government for answers we were to go to our TOWNS first?

What IF, by once again using our towns for their proper purpose of defending the Inhabitants thereof, they were to take back the control they have slowly but surely handed over to the government they created in 1780?

What IF our towns were to say “no” to any and all breaches of our state constitution?

What IF our towns were to stand between us and the big bad government tax man so that taxation would be by consent, as Article X declares?

What IF our towns were to order the governor of the Commonwealth to enforce the US Constitution, the law by which the States created the federal government?

What IF the LAWS that created the American system of Liberty and Justice for all were to be ENFORCED?

Then government would have nothing to hide.

Then government would be open and honest because every last one of our government agents would be held accountable to us, through our towns, our “extended families” formed for mutual defense and protection, where this great nation got its start...

As a high school senior, I think I'll take up this challenge and start researching right away and see if I can come up with something by the end of this week!

I'll start by reading through:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethics
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inalienable_rights

as well as previous historical documents and world religions texts to see if I can pick some maxims that represent how I feel but may or may not reflect others here. Hopefully what I will gain from this project will not only advance my world view but to contribute as well!

12 Maxims:

1. Obey the plain language of the U.S. Constitution

2. Per James Madison, for gray areas, consult the ratification debates.

3. For additional help on gray areas, study the Constitutional notes of James Madison, and the lives, words, and deeds of Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, George Washington, and James Monroe.

4. Advocate smaller government.

5. Advocate more economic liberty.

6. Advcate more civil liberties.

7. Oppose the initiation of force, unless authorized by the U.S. Constitution.

8. Read www.lewrockwell.com

9. Read www.prisonplanet.com

10. Read www.dailypaul.com and www.ronpaulforums.com

11. Study Christian Just War theory.

12. Read about the words and deeds of Galileo Galilei

Judges must uphold the existing laws and constitution or face criminal prosecution. If judges were to fight against corruption and not profit from it, you wouldn't need new laws and regulations. Judges should not make law, or subjectively administer it.

Way too many able bodied citizens are on some form of disability... I see them living a rather good life with cable TV, good food, smokes and drink. All the while I work'n my arse off to get by.

To be honest about this... there is a segment of our population who wear their disability check as a badge of honor, with those looking to get on board chirping in as their biggest cheerleaders. When the crash comes down they will be at the bottom of my list of people to assist.... here have some karma tokins.

And... if you get any aide from the government... please pee in this cup ok. Fail the exam and we ban you like Pete Rose.... no more free anything for life.

Ramblin Randy

As John Adams said:

“There is danger from all men. The only maxim of a free government ought to be to trust no man living with power to endanger the public liberty.”

http://www.1776solution.blogspot.com

"The Truth is not always comfortable, but it is always safe" - H. W. Johnstone

Obey the Constitution.

Minimize government.

I agree. A platform that follows the Constitution but in clear, concise language would be helpful. The phrase "shall not be abridged" does not seem to be clearly understood. Perhaps a more modern phrase in the platform such as "will not be interfered with in any way" would be easier for our moronic legislator to understand. Perhaps phrase somewhere that makes it clear that the term "man" or "men" is a generic term that includes every man and woman of every race and religion would eliminate all this ridiculous "civil rights" legislation that promotes divisions and favoritism.

Re-write the Constitution? NEVER!! But having a platform that re-states the principles in clear modern English could be very helpful in promoting the Constutition.

Pat

BOHICA!!

People should be sufficiently self-reliant to protect themselves. Gov't should teach self-reliance rather than dependence. Gov't uses fraud as rational for its expansion. Civil lawsuits and the common law of fraud are sufficient protections. Laissez Faire should be the main goal of opponents of big government.

Sheldon Waxman
sheldonw72@gmail.com
www.thelawyer.info
www.independentcontractor.info

We already have one - it's called the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence.

Our statement of purpose need be no more than a return to the Constitutional Republican rule of law and system of strict checks and balances laid out in our foundational documents.
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"Live Free or Die" -- Amen to that

I like that you're trying to get people to think about some sort of platform. I just spent 45 minutes, writing, reading, researching, thinking, etc. And you know what I concluded? Everything I wrote has already been said by someone older, wiser, and dead. Economics, civil liberties, war, session, laissez faire capitalism, etc. The Bill of rights, other parts of the constitution, Ayn Rand quotations, Ron Paul quotations, Rothbard, etc.

Yes, having an organized set of principles is important. Sound money, no foreign entanglements, no Big brother, no debt spending, no federal usurpation of powers, no regulation on trade, no regulation of contracts. etc. I think most everyone here agrees with those, as does Ron Paul. Pretty up the language a bit, and you're good to go.

Here's why it doesn't matter. No matter how nicely, forcefully, no matter how witty or concise, it's still going to be ratioinalized away in the future. Look what they've done to the Constitution. It was written very well, and there was a lot of feeling behind those words, but down the line it whitered away because no one was there to protect it.

The following is a rough draft. I took a look at the constitution party's 7 principles (http://www.constitutionparty.com/) and the theoretical Texas constitution (http://www.tcrf.com/), 30,000 project (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/), plus the Bill of Rights, Constitution. There are only 11, a 12 one should be very easy to come up with, but I'm too tired to continue at this point.

1. The right to contract is unlimited, and no contract entered into knowingly, willingly, and voluntarily shall be revoked.
2. The House of Representatives shall maintain 1 member for every 30,000 legal citizens, as measured by the census.
3. The U.S. government shall never borrow, print, or otherwise create money, credit, or other tender.
4. The U.S. government shall never record any personal activity of any citizen, except possibly upon incarceration by due process. (no Big brother)
5. The U.S. government shall never enter into or start any war without a Congressional Declaration of War.
6. The U.S. government shall never restrict, regulate, or monitor the voluntary association or assembly of individuals. (no big brother, no regulations)
7. The U.S. government shall never regulate trade. (no regulation, no trade deals, no messing with food supplies)
8. The U.S. government shall never deny to any individual any material thing that individual had lawfully acquired. (no drug war, no vaccinations)
9. The U.S. government shall never enter into deficit or debt.
10. The U.S. government shall never prevent lawful session of any State, to be determined by the citizens of that State.
11. The U.S. government shall never accept anything but gold or silver as payment.