
It Is Time to Admit the Obvious: The Political Classes Are Deliberately Blocking an Economic Recovery
Submitted by xntryk1 on Thu, 03/05/2009 - 12:03
I believe that it is time for us to understand a basic truth that is coming out of the new regime: There is not going to be a recovery, and that is just fine with Obama and the political classes that now have a death grip on our lives.
This is a harsh and seemingly conspiratorial statement, and people who know me know that I am extremely skeptical of "conspiracy theories," yet here I am peddling what some very well might call a "conspiracy theory." Do I believe that what Washington is doing is a diabolical plot aimed at fundamentally changing the U.S. economy in a way that economic depression will be a permanent way of life?
In a word, yes.
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I strongly disagree
As Chris Martenson so eloquently explains, we now live in a monetary system where money *is* debt, particularly since Nixon slammed the gold window completely shut.
As much as we would like the establishment to wake up and endorse RP's policies, I doubt that it will happen until the SHTF. No one wants to be blamed for the short-term disruption that would occur if we brought back honest money, so everyone is desperately trying to prevent the debt-based system from collapsing on *their* watch. And collapse it will.
So, no, they aren't trying to destroy the system, but yes the system will collapse despite their futile attempts to save it with bailouts, etc. And frankly, some of them like George W. Bush probably have no clue what is going on, whereas others like Obama probably are scared to death that they will be voted out of office if the SHTF on their watch.
IMHO, I strongly recommend Chris Martenson's site for a powerful data-based explanation of how we got here and what may happen next.
http://www.chrismartenson.com/blog/if-you-are-new-site-start...
Well you can strongly
be bumfuzzeld and fleeced then..
It's a system that has been slowly perfected over time.. It's not coincidence that this is happening, it's like a controlled demolition.
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We agree that the system is
We agree that the system is going to collapse. We agree that the establishment's interventions are stealing our freedoms and exacerbating the problem. We agree that Ron Paul's policies would fix the problem. We agree that it's no coincidence that this is happening. We only disagree on precisely why it is happening.
If I am going to get bumfuzzled and fleeced, it will happen whether I hold your belief or mine. In order to protect myself and my family, I need to prepare for the collapse. IMHO, you might find the Chris Martenson site illuminating. If not, good luck.
OK, It's Not A Conspiracy, ...
... it's a syndrome.
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/84255#comment-923998
I have been having some similar thoughts regarding the
economic meltdown. If you step back and look at the way things have
evolved (devolved), it looks like there is a deliberate drain of what little
financial security Americans may have had. There is no where left to go. The FDIC is going broke so not even a simple savings account is secure anymore. Even if you take all of the "conspiracy theories" out of the equation, the transfer of money is so real that it is down right frightening. I don't know what the new America is going to look like, but I have a feeling we're not going to like it.
~Your perception becomes your reality~
~Your perception becomes your reality~
Don't forget
even if you have a savings account that IS safe, the value of your dollars is decreasing daily. It is nothing but the most blatant theft and the only thing left to do is buy things of real value in hopes of staving off starvation. When it all comes to a head, the elite will hold all the monopoly money and the rest of us will be begging.
I agree.
Very scary and it's happening so fast. I guess the FDIC is to get a 500 billion dollar loan now. So where is that money coming from?
According to what I heard yesterday,
the money for the FDIC is going to come from an "assessment"(tax) on the remaining banks. And the assessment is going to be very substantial.
Some estimate that smaller banks will be forced to pay as much as half of their yearly profits.
This is already tanking what's remaining of bank stocks, and was visible in the market yesterday.
No conspiracy theory here
Just a good old fashioned screw job.
We know the truth now and can return the screw...with feeling!
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The Republican Party in the United States has become the Spokes Party for the Oligarchs that have prospered during the economic meltdown. The oil industry has rung-up all time record profits against the backdrop of an economy in peril that affects the rest of us. We have bailed-out the financial industry by attempting to pay off their markers, which seem to be reproducing themselves weekly, to the Casinos on Wall Street. We are now just coming around to realize that credit cards are no substitute for real dollars with which to buy products and that wealth is not synonymous with debt. Bundling toxic assets into tempting investment packages have exploded in the hands of greedy investors and the Bernard Madoffs have made off with the life savings of thousands of once wealthy investors leaving many of them virtually penniless. We have seen Regan tax breaks to the wealthy ( and subsequent tax breaks over the years) lead to investments into cheap labor abroad. Our only surviving export is the machinery of war and weapons of mass destruction. Under GWB we have borrowed from the Chinese, Japanese and other nations to fund and endless occupation in Iraq and now Obama seeks greater involvement in Afghanistan. It is a very grim picture of what we have become and a major reality check on what real wealth is and who has it and why it is concentrated in the hands of the few at the top of the economic food chain. Our armies are deployed to support the continued viability of the oil industry in the Middle East. And from the Oil Fields of Iraq we turn our attention now to the Poppy Fields of Afghanistan and again and again we continue to support another parallel economy that lies beneath the rubble of our collapsing economy. Welcome to the United States of Enronica the land of plenty for the few in an American Oligarchy.
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"War is the health of the state"
Their sole power flows from fighting wars, whether it be wars on countries, drugs, poverty, or the economy. If they have nothing to fight they have nothing to do, and would just wither away into irrelevance, which is their proper role.
They know this, so they sustain a state of war on something or other at all times.
Ouch that hurts!! :-(
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It does
"It's just one big club... and WE ain't in it!"
"Tyrants fear nothing more than insubordination"
"It's just one big club... and WE ain't in it!"
Your signature is quite appropriate for this thread! lol
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Freedom is only for those with the guts to defend it!
What are you fightin' for?
Caught in the middle?
Freedom is only for those with the guts to defend it!
Just step back and look at it this way
THESE PEOPLE WANT WHAT THEY WANT.
They have been running the show for 100's of years and they have their goals. These goals ARE NO SECRET. We know who they are and how they have gotten us here. This is all common knowledge.
They are collectivists. They want one world "everything."
They think they are right and this goal (collectivism)serves what they think is right. (these are Ron Paul's words from the 2nd to last debate)
Despair?
No, not at all really.
They are the very very FEW.
We are the very very MANY.
They are hopelessly outnumbered and THEY KNOW IT.
They are the ones whom are desperate.
They have built a world on a lie and the lie always falls...always.
Tell the truth to everyone you know.
A handy phrase is...."do you know who owns the debt of the United States?"
"The debt is owned by the Federal reserve bank which is a privately owned bank. The families that own the bank include the Rockefellers, the Morgans, the Rothschilds, the Kuhn's the Loebs and the Harrimans among others. Why do these people control yours and my money and our economy?"
"I do not think it is right...do you?"
Tell the truth and the person will NEVER go back to believing the lie.
These families ARE NOT ALL POWERFUL.
They are terrified of you and me as we outnumber them a million to one.
Tell the truth...it is something you can do right now and it will help more than you know.
NEVER believe or follow a fear message...ever! Fear is used each day to control you. Hope and truth make you strong. Fear and anger make you weak. Shut off the TV as it is owned by the people we speak of in this post. They need you to be weak and frightened and angry and emotional. It is their method.
Ask God to help you and then get out there and help yourself. (now there is a proven method!)
Tell the truth....it works and it is WORKING NOW.
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These people are busy with the Carbon cap tax now
Funny how that didn't make the news. Obama is pushing through this legislation as we speak. It will increase everyone's utility bills, and thus is a tax on your energy source. Be prepared for headlines next winter of people not able to heat their homes. Brilliant double dip tactic: tax companies on their carbon footprint and offer the *solution* with green alternatives. They are smart at making money. Founders are former Citigroup and Lehman execs.
http://www.carbonsolutionsamerica.com/index.php
Amen
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/84255#comment-921830
Testify.
Ditto.
Good stuff :).
And what is even funnier about the whole situation, is that "they" have nothing to be "desperate" about. Things are moving along and getting better; "they" are just as used to being "controllers" as the masses are to being "controlled".
Balance is coming. Choose sovereignty!
Thanks tstorey
for your wise word's of incouragement !! I for one, sure needed to hear them.
We need more of that.
Don't people realize they want the masses to fear and revere them?
Does anyone remember the Wizard of Oz? "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!"
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I didn't read the article,
I didn't read the article, so my comment is just based on what you posted. In my opinion, if we judge our political representatives simply based on what they do - then they really do not care about us. The only way for them to prove otherwise would be for them to do the right thing, which they are not.
Eventually,
even the slow learners catch on.
In time, all will see that there has been a conspiracy beyond anything they ever suspected. And it was one big conspiracy, played out as vast numbers of little conspiracies, all of which were thought to be separate, and all were laughed-at sneeringly by the "igno-arrogant people who think they know better".
And it's not really hidden.
People just refuse to look because they don't want to see.
Until it's too late, and then they gaze upon the horror that they facilitated with their denial.
Right On Big1
Hope you don't mind the pun.
Well was it H.G. Wells, George OrWell or Orson Wells? Oh Well, I give up.
Anywayz, your post is Well said, and your part about, "And it's not really hidden," can't go on without mentioning The Open Conspiracy written in 1928 by H.G. Wells.
This conspiracy is out in the open. It is out in the open because once the conspiracy is in play it cannot be left in secret any longer.
I agree
it's in the open and always has been, but people were and are kept busy looking at one hand while the other hand is working the conspiracy in plain view .
It's just one huge magic show.
Another problem to
connecting the dots is that these events happen at such a slow pace, over years, decades, centuries, no one noticed them...that is until now.
Now that the pace of these conspiracies are going at warp speed, people are beginning to take notice.
This could mean one of two things, those in power are getting careless or they are so close to implementing their plans for the world they don't care if the masses awake, because it's too late for the people to do anything about it.
I certainly hope it's not the latter.
Greedy people
always have a tendency to want to grab as quickly as they can, and sometimes that means they make mistakes.
They probably will make some mistakes, which knowledgeable people could capitalize upon..
Our problem is that so many people are still in denial, that we won't be ready to pounce when the moment is right, to snatch the gold ring from the hands of the evil ones.
Alot of people still think this is some kind of playtime game, and they really have no idea how serious this thing is. Oh, they may give it lip service, and roll their eyes later.
It does no good to try to inform them, because they think we're nuts.
You're right
too many people are still fast asleep. If that weren't the case Ron Paul would be president instead of Obama.
I use to think the elections were rigged, but now I'm not so sure after talking to people, it appears they really do think Obama is the answer to this country's woes.
Although some progress has been made in waking them up the majority of our nation is still drinking the MSM's Koolaid, so there is no need to rig elections, is there?
Never apologize...
for recognizing and speaking the truth.
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That's a good article
It's important to have an accurate view of the world. It's time we consider that maybe they aren't really interested in making the free markets work.
Register as Republican and Vote for Ron Paul
Incentives
If you create incentives that results in a large scale movement in a particular direction, you don't need to attribute it to any kind of conspiracy theory. It is simply people trying to maximize utility. The political classes experience no upside to improving the economy and they experience greater power in an economic decline. They might even "see" that a revolution is a potential, but they don't really feel that way when they are partying down at the White House with Stevie Wonder.
Land is a natural right.
Land is a natural right.
Obama knows what he is doing
Rush Limbaugh says, they are not incompetents, speaking of the Obama administration. They are dimolishing the old economic order to build the new global economic order. They are setting up ( Democats ) to be the sole political power in the U.S. Rush is right on this ussumptions. There is a global ruling class who are directing the dismantleing of the U.S. as a world superpower. But we are complicit in our demise, we allowed politicians to enabled global corporations who have no nationalistic allegience - to move manufacturing infrastructure to China and elsewhere where labor is cheaper. We allowed immigrants from developing countries to dissplace more labor expensive U.S. citizens to come and work for less. In essence we have been pitted against the surplus of the world's workers as Pat Buchanan said, a global free market will always gravitate to the lowest paid workers. The founding father always protected the markets of it's workers (citizens). no nation ver consumed itself to prosperity, when this nation became great it was because of it's manufacturing base. Whether people want to addmit or not hell yes this is a conspiracy
GASP!!!!
SAY IT AIN'T SO!
But it ain't not isn't the politicians.
Whatever the "newz" is reporting, aint' not nohow is'nt whatz goin on.
I would like to see Obama
confronted with this very thing
Ron Paul already has Bernanke on record denying that they are presently working on a new economic system.
"It's just one big club... and WE ain't in it!"
"Tyrants fear nothing more than insubordination"
"It's just one big club... and WE ain't in it!"
Wow. A: I'm shocked to hear
Wow.
A: I'm shocked to hear something like this come from that site, although mainly because Michael Rozeff has been so vocally anti-conspiracy.
B: If they know that this keynesianism hurts the economy, its possible that they knew that the low interests rates were damaging in the long run as well. Now, this doesn't necessarily follow.
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Ya Know.........
They say to admit the problem is the first step to recovery............
Come on. You can do it, say, con-s-p-i-r..............
Conspiracy: Two or more plot is secret to do evil. Done every day by evil.
One example is, look at how they intentionally plotted to give Paul as little lime-light as possible during the debates.............. This could not have happen by happenstance. This is every bit as evil as rigging the votes, and that is because the intentional outcome IS to subliminally alter / manipulate the minds of the voters in their direction.
Conspiracy
It's amazing how MSM indoctrination causes a "slide response" in people upon hearing the word "conspiracy"; causing their brains to go into complete shutdown mode(other words have a similar effect). Funny, because that is not the case in other countries/cultures.
The use of 'conspiracy theory' as a derogatory -- as an epithet almost -- is something the propagandists have perfected over the decades, and it's a useful tool for eliminating articulate dissent and other points of view. So now the label "conspiracy theorist" is used to discredit anyone seeking answers.
Conspiracies obviously DO exist otherwise there wouldn't be a word for in it the friggin' English language, nor would they be against the LAW. It is a civil and criminal charge you know. They are actually quite common. They happen all the time. That's why laws against them have been in place for at least a few hundred years. Don't forget, there must be some other underlying crime (or tort in civil law) to get a conspiracy conviction; i.e. conspiracy to commit murder, conspiracy to defraud, etc.
But fairly recently, in the MSM, the definition seems to be changing from "two or more people working together towards some evil or illegal end" to being associated with tin foil hats, kool aid, paranoia and UFO chasers in an attempt to squash the truth.
Anybody that denies the existence of conspiracies, must be delusional or involved in conspiracies.
Also, the word "theory" has no place next to the word "conspiracy". I have never heard of terms like "Fraud theory", or "Murder theory" thrown around. Someone is accused of a crime, the evidence is presented and they are found guilty or not-guilty. Nowhere in legal procedure is the charge considered a "theory" before it's proven or disproven.
What's even funnier about the propagandists putting the word "theory" behind "conspiracy" (in order to make it seem like by saying "theory" thay can imply that means "non-existent"), is the fact that a theory, outside of mathematics, is a very high level of proof. And obviously these shills think it's ok to call other thing theories like "the theory of evolution", and the "theory of relativity" and believe they are true.
There's no doubt in my mind that IF we could ever get a FAIR trial (which probably would never happen) that we would have no problem coming up with enough evidence to charge Bush/Cheney/Paulson/Rockefeller and the lot of them with conspiracy..along with fraud, treason and a bunch of other stuff.
When you think of the "official story" about 9/11, they are describing a conspiracy; 19+ arabs conspiring to commit murder. It's funny, but the MSM NEVER never uses the word to descibe it that way. I guess they don't want to use the word properly, for fear the public will actually start using it properly. Occasionally you'll hear it in the MSM - like Lil' Kim getting convicted of conspiracy - but it seems we're only allowed to see the little conspiracies, while the big ones committed by big wigs are met with denial and labeled as "theories".
But WE should start using it properly.
In other words, call 'em out when you see them! But remember, something illegal has to have been done.
Therefore, even though some say there was a conspiracy against Ron Paul during the primary, there really wasn't because NOTHING ILLEGAL was done (of course, you make the case that unjust and immoral laws are put into place by the NWO so their activities are technically legal). So you CAN say there was a concerted effort to squash him, but *technically* there was no conspiracy.
Sorry this rant was so long, and sorry I have a tendency to repeat what I've said elsewhere.
VERY well said!!
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Thanks ArmorOfChrist777
And well said. From what I can see the people don't realize how important learning about this topic is.
The definition very's from dictionary to dictionary. Some state it the way I did and some state the way you did. I'm sure both definitions are correct because both definitions of the word "conspiracy" tends to be correct and held valid under both, a subjective and / or objective perspective.
Oh yes
Your definition is correct. The language might be slightly different, but the meaning is the same, and that's the important thing!
One thing I forgot to add to my rant above, is that there seemed to be an effort to fix the vote totals in certain places against RP. Now, THAT would be a conspiracy. Obviously, rigging the vote is against the law (as if we could ever prove that - the NWO crowd would make sure we couldn't).
At the same time, when the GOP changed it's rules or ignored its own rules to shut out RP delegates, nothing was done that was technically illegal (according to the courts), so technically there was no conspiracy, although there was obviously a coordinated wide-spread effort to squash his delegates.
Re: Oh yes
I seem not to be able to emphasis enough how important this topic is. As long as the people keep going along with the MSM retranslation and opinion of the word conspiracy, whats at stake will continue to be suppressed. Yes the squashing has worked well.
Y'all keep forgetting the golden rule of politics:
It all depends on what the definition of 'is' is remember? Period. We should all get the t-shirt. Seems like it'd be a get out of jail free card, wear one everyday.
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Not so clear to me ...
They are slowly coming to realize that such policies are doomed to fail ...
and hence, come to grips with defeat.
When that happens, you may in deed be right.
It will be about them and only them at that point.
We are not there yet, but we may get there soon.
WAHOR!!
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I mostly agree, but I think you overestimate them.
And I am only skeptical of some conspiracy theories.
The truth is there is profound ignorance out there. Profound.
And neither party possesses a speck of political savvy. This is being increasingly proven. If they aren't even sharp enough to understand how to wield political savvy--something their careers are entirely dependent upon--what makes you think they secretly understand subtleties like what the Fed does, or how Austrian economics work?
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