Submitted by NoFreedom on Wed, 03/11/2009 - 12:06.
I was blind to the truth as most Americans still are until I found Ron Paul. I have no doubt in my mind that Ron Paul will go down in history as the "Great Teacher and Great Mentor for Freedom"
how our home State Reps vote on it. At least our good Dr. Paul introduces legislation that would help "identify" where money goes. That's a good first step in identifying problem areas. As long as these clowns in office wear their rose colored glasses and claim ignorance about spending bills, there is no hope. There will be no accountability, ever. Let's follow H.R. 1207 and see where it ends up. Maybe some lawmakers will wake up and listen to Ron Paul. (but I doubt it)
Submitted by sheldonwaxman on Wed, 03/11/2009 - 07:03.
I appeared before the House Ways and Means Committee and told the 3 Congressmen there that "policy must be separated from revenue raising" in the tax code. The answer from a Congressman: "That will never happen." Well, this is the same thing. Laws should never be packages. All votes should be on one law at a time.
The Cavuto interview was great. Cavuto looked like a deer looking into headlights. He is simply has no comprehension of what is being discussed. RP has to bring the intellectual argument so low with these talking heads, that it must be so frustrating for him. I am sure many of us would of lost it long before, while speaking with such poor souls.
Simply, Cavuto is incompetent in these matters and should be transferred to entertainment news or something along those lines.
I do not know what the misunderstanding is all about. I am baffled along with RP. :)
As RP says," just open the Constitution and read it."
I spoke with my elderly parents in AZ shortly after this interview. Mom said she was delighted to see Dr. Paul on TV, but had no clue what he was talking about! Alas, that's probably more the norm than we know. Most Americans are not political junkies, like us.
"earmarks" and bringing it into correct perspective. Once again the good doctor cuts through all the b.s. so we can see what's really going on, and what we should be concentrating on - HR 1207! - invaluable!!
I think what the critics are saying is that IF you put in earmarks and know the bill will pass, you are essentially voting FOR the bill, whatever it is.
In this case, it's the BIGGEST banking bailout heist of the century.
You make a logical point that IF the budget or A bill is a good one, then, it would be the responsibility for the representatives to put in their respective earmarks, but I THOUGHT that was reserved for individual bills, you know?
It's the difference between handing someone a million dollars and saying "Fix the problem" and handing someone a million dollars and saying "Here's a list of projects we want done with this money... $100K for project 'A', $150K for project 'B'...."
As RP said, if the money is not specifically dedicated to a particular project, then the executive branch gets to do what it pleases with it.
So, in those terms and under those circumstances, he says ALL money should be earmarked...just to keep it out of the hands of the executive branch.
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I think that's what ALL Americans are actually shocked by. They had NO IDEA that Congressmen were adding so much crap to each and every bill....until the Banking Bailout Bill came to the forefront of the Media. We've had no idea what these clowns were doing till now.
As taxpayers, we want these bills to be TO THE POINT, no deals, no behind the backroom deals, no added crap.....ever!
In the Russert interview, he said & I quote, "I've never voted for an earmark in my life!"
Today, he says we need to earmark, so isn't he being contradictory??
Maybe, he meant that he never voted for a spending bill in his life?? I don't think Dr. Paul was clear enough on this, because even I'm a little confused.
Also, the problem with the pork is that it INFLATED THE BANKING BAILOUT BILL by billions of dollars, that is, Tarp 1 & Tarp 2.
Submitted by steve orrange on Tue, 03/10/2009 - 21:55.
1st remember the Russert interview was a hack job to get RP off subject. (of foreign policy, federal reserve, balanced budgets, etc.....I think Russert even wasted time on the civil war......more i think about it the more disdain i have for russert....RIP anyway.
2nd - RP never voted for an earmark. He requested earmarks for his constituents,
because they asked for it. Because the buget bills were so large and unbalanced, RP never voted for an unbalanced budget. IF some day there is a balanced budget, RP might vote for it, including the earmarks tacked to it.
3rd - the main point RP is trying to educate everyone on is government transparency. Every dollar in the budget should be earmarked. Over time more people will understand earmarks, thanks to RP. Many are beginning to look harder at fiat currency, foreign policy, an over extended american empire and a host of other RP relevant ideas.
Yeesh, I wish I hadn't been reminded of that interview.
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Submitted by Boscovius on Tue, 03/10/2009 - 20:10.
Why am I not surprised that the crafty powers that be have been working so hard with the propaganda machine to make the american people hate earmarks? Thanks Dr. Paul. I understand now. Earmarks are my friend!
Things are only impossible until they are not.
-- Jean Luc Picard
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Thank you Dr. Paul for explaining Earmarks. It makes complete sense to me now. It is the level of spending that needs to be addressed. It sounds like a pot of money is appropriated and if it is not earmarked, then it goes to the Administration to be spent at will. The example you gave was an excellent one. If we had earmarked the money in the TARP, then it would have had to have gone to exactly where it was earmarked to go. This same thing happened in our local government budget. A pot of money was set aside as unallocated. These funds were used as the local government wished (ie by-passed budget earmarking).
Submitted by MMJ Ministry on Tue, 03/10/2009 - 18:51.
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Submitted by dexterszyd on Tue, 03/10/2009 - 18:39.
Does it really make sense for congressmen to earmark things like:
Wooden bow and arrows
A study to determine how to prevent pig feces from stinking
Money to study copulation of cats
Cash for high speed rail to and from nowhere?
What checks and balances are in place for that crap! IT PISSES ME OFF!!!
Submitted by northstar on Tue, 03/10/2009 - 20:07.
I support Dr Paul requesting monies to repair and strengthen the Galveston seawall and waterway. It has much larger benefits for the area community at large, not just his constituants. I said this in another thread and don't know what other earmarks he's asked for, but I would bet he put a lots of careful thought into it before putting his request in.
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I recall in an interview that Ron Paul puts all earmarks through. I live in his district and could probably put an earmark through. I guess I should try it if I knew what I wanted an earmark for. The good thing about the way Dr. Paul does it is that any everyday joe like myself could ask for their money back. Other Congressmen would require you to be a big contributor before they would do you a favor of an earmark.
Submitted by MMJ Ministry on Tue, 03/10/2009 - 18:47.
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“A wise and frugal government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement” - Thomas Jefferson
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"If people let government decide which foods they eat and medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny."
Thomas Jefferson
of my machine that stops me.
When I went onto mogulus the other day I was greeted w/ my sister in law's name...
I know it wasn'ther, but an attorney I used to know who is behind it...
Can't reformat to dump his spyware with a scratched system disk...
Considering all the weird comments people make to me, I'm sure that he has created many accounts, posing as myself that I am yet unaware of...
Any account that I create will surely be hacked and used against me...
But since he's doing it anyway...
I might as well say Damn the torpedoes...
I may just disappear and create a new account so that people can reach me...
I like to keep things simple too...
Remembering passwords is not my forte...
I'm too honest I don't like creating phony identities...
So I have resisted the temptation...
Like Franklin said...
I have given up a Liberty...
For security...
Submitted by lookyhere on Tue, 03/10/2009 - 19:58.
I digg it #20 – up vote and comment on reddit – that’s where the fight is – reddit is full of Obama fans and Ron Paul haters. I could use a little help.
Submitted by MMJ Ministry on Tue, 03/10/2009 - 18:50.
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“A wise and frugal government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement” - Thomas Jefferson
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Ron Paul Supporter Since 1997
"If people let government decide which foods they eat and medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny."
Thomas Jefferson
Can we replace the Niel Cavuto vid with this one? Please, pretty please?
Everyone wants to better understand this issue, nice not to have to endure the disrespect shown to Ron in the other vid.
Thank you.
Dr. Paul
does such a great job explaining wish the other elected officials would listen.
HR 1207 progress!
about a week ago HR 1207 had 11 co-sponsors. A few days ago that jumped to 21. I just checked and it is now up to....TWENTY-EIGHT co-sponsors!!!
See the list here:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:HR01207:@@@P
History and Ron Paul
I was blind to the truth as most Americans still are until I found Ron Paul. I have no doubt in my mind that Ron Paul will go down in history as the "Great Teacher and Great Mentor for Freedom"
Let's follow H.R. 1207 and report
how our home State Reps vote on it. At least our good Dr. Paul introduces legislation that would help "identify" where money goes. That's a good first step in identifying problem areas. As long as these clowns in office wear their rose colored glasses and claim ignorance about spending bills, there is no hope. There will be no accountability, ever. Let's follow H.R. 1207 and see where it ends up. Maybe some lawmakers will wake up and listen to Ron Paul. (but I doubt it)
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I appeared before the House Ways and Means Committee and told the 3 Congressmen there that "policy must be separated from revenue raising" in the tax code. The answer from a Congressman: "That will never happen." Well, this is the same thing. Laws should never be packages. All votes should be on one law at a time.
Sheldon Waxman
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Ron Paul is a fountain of information...
While so many others would keep the people dumbed down and unaware this man takes the time to educate and enlighten.
"Men are ruled, at this minute, by the clock, by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern."
-G.K. Chesterton
"Men are ruled, at this minute, by the clock, by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern."
-G.K. Chesterton
This made complete sense along with the Cavuto interview.
The Cavuto interview was great. Cavuto looked like a deer looking into headlights. He is simply has no comprehension of what is being discussed. RP has to bring the intellectual argument so low with these talking heads, that it must be so frustrating for him. I am sure many of us would of lost it long before, while speaking with such poor souls.
Simply, Cavuto is incompetent in these matters and should be transferred to entertainment news or something along those lines.
I do not know what the misunderstanding is all about. I am baffled along with RP. :)
As RP says," just open the Constitution and read it."
God help us.
donvino
He's not the only one....
I spoke with my elderly parents in AZ shortly after this interview. Mom said she was delighted to see Dr. Paul on TV, but had no clue what he was talking about! Alas, that's probably more the norm than we know. Most Americans are not political junkies, like us.
I Was Wondering That - Whether General Public Even Understands
Ron Paul's Convention Speech
Ron Paul's Convention Speech
"Freedom brings people together." - Ron Paul
Dugg 45 - Thank you, Dr. Paul, for clarifying the subject of
"earmarks" and bringing it into correct perspective. Once again the good doctor cuts through all the b.s. so we can see what's really going on, and what we should be concentrating on - HR 1207! - invaluable!!
Debbie
Help me understand---
I think what the critics are saying is that IF you put in earmarks and know the bill will pass, you are essentially voting FOR the bill, whatever it is.
In this case, it's the BIGGEST banking bailout heist of the century.
You make a logical point that IF the budget or A bill is a good one, then, it would be the responsibility for the representatives to put in their respective earmarks, but I THOUGHT that was reserved for individual bills, you know?
It simply secures money for a specific reason...
It's the difference between handing someone a million dollars and saying "Fix the problem" and handing someone a million dollars and saying "Here's a list of projects we want done with this money... $100K for project 'A', $150K for project 'B'...."
As RP said, if the money is not specifically dedicated to a particular project, then the executive branch gets to do what it pleases with it.
So, in those terms and under those circumstances, he says ALL money should be earmarked...just to keep it out of the hands of the executive branch.
I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...
I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...
earmarks = transparency
Simple as that
*#$&We need to build political strength and political will&*&
We need to build political strength and political will.
earmarks=transparency...
and earmarks=tax credit/rebate
"Men are ruled, at this minute, by the clock, by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern."
-G.K. Chesterton
"Men are ruled, at this minute, by the clock, by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern."
-G.K. Chesterton
Keeping ALL BILLS to the POINT is the POINT
I think that's what ALL Americans are actually shocked by. They had NO IDEA that Congressmen were adding so much crap to each and every bill....until the Banking Bailout Bill came to the forefront of the Media. We've had no idea what these clowns were doing till now.
As taxpayers, we want these bills to be TO THE POINT, no deals, no behind the backroom deals, no added crap.....ever!
Am I right??
Correct!
Correct!
The PROBLEM is the contradiction in the Russert INTERVIEW
In the Russert interview, he said & I quote, "I've never voted for an earmark in my life!"
Today, he says we need to earmark, so isn't he being contradictory??
Maybe, he meant that he never voted for a spending bill in his life?? I don't think Dr. Paul was clear enough on this, because even I'm a little confused.
Also, the problem with the pork is that it INFLATED THE BANKING BAILOUT BILL by billions of dollars, that is, Tarp 1 & Tarp 2.
no contradiction
1st remember the Russert interview was a hack job to get RP off subject. (of foreign policy, federal reserve, balanced budgets, etc.....I think Russert even wasted time on the civil war......more i think about it the more disdain i have for russert....RIP anyway.
2nd - RP never voted for an earmark. He requested earmarks for his constituents,
because they asked for it. Because the buget bills were so large and unbalanced, RP never voted for an unbalanced budget. IF some day there is a balanced budget, RP might vote for it, including the earmarks tacked to it.
3rd - the main point RP is trying to educate everyone on is government transparency. Every dollar in the budget should be earmarked. Over time more people will understand earmarks, thanks to RP. Many are beginning to look harder at fiat currency, foreign policy, an over extended american empire and a host of other RP relevant ideas.
What A Transparent Fraud Russert Was
Yeesh, I wish I hadn't been reminded of that interview.
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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels
God I love this man...
He hit this one out of the park.
I'll bet the FED is writhing in it's slime when it hears this.
AND OH HOW A VAMPIRE HATES A MIRROR!
Pawnstorm
RP just makes too much sense
RP just makes too much sense for these numbscull to comprehend.
Amen! :)
Ethics = Visibility + Expectations Delivery
Why am I not surprised that
Why am I not surprised that the crafty powers that be have been working so hard with the propaganda machine to make the american people hate earmarks? Thanks Dr. Paul. I understand now. Earmarks are my friend!
Things are only impossible until they are not.
-- Jean Luc Picard
Things are only impossible until they are not.
-- Jean Luc Picard
Earmarks
Thank you Dr. Paul for explaining Earmarks. It makes complete sense to me now. It is the level of spending that needs to be addressed. It sounds like a pot of money is appropriated and if it is not earmarked, then it goes to the Administration to be spent at will. The example you gave was an excellent one. If we had earmarked the money in the TARP, then it would have had to have gone to exactly where it was earmarked to go. This same thing happened in our local government budget. A pot of money was set aside as unallocated. These funds were used as the local government wished (ie by-passed budget earmarking).
HR 1207
Just jotted off an email to my congressidiot to support this bill. Please do the same.
Thanks Dr. Paul
We allowed the demonization of earmarks to happen without even challenging it. Gotta stay alert.
"It's just one big club... and WE ain't in it!"
"Tyrants fear nothing more than insubordination"
"It's just one big club... and WE ain't in it!"
Now, This is Much More Front Page Worthy! Screw Cavuto & Fox!
Excellent! Just what we needed!
Ron Paul's Convention Speech
Ron Paul's Convention Speech
"Freedom brings people together." - Ron Paul
H.R. 1207
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“A wise and frugal government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement” - Thomas Jefferson
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Ron Paul Supporter Since 1997
"If people let government decide which foods they eat and medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny."
Thomas Jefferson
Ok ...I'll buy that but...
Does it really make sense for congressmen to earmark things like:
Wooden bow and arrows
A study to determine how to prevent pig feces from stinking
Money to study copulation of cats
Cash for high speed rail to and from nowhere?
What checks and balances are in place for that crap! IT PISSES ME OFF!!!
For Freedom!
For Freedom!
No ...
I support Dr Paul requesting monies to repair and strengthen the Galveston seawall and waterway. It has much larger benefits for the area community at large, not just his constituants. I said this in another thread and don't know what other earmarks he's asked for, but I would bet he put a lots of careful thought into it before putting his request in.
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With all the snow here in Minnesota, the only 'shovel ready' project I know of is shoveling snow.
Actually
I recall in an interview that Ron Paul puts all earmarks through. I live in his district and could probably put an earmark through. I guess I should try it if I knew what I wanted an earmark for. The good thing about the way Dr. Paul does it is that any everyday joe like myself could ask for their money back. Other Congressmen would require you to be a big contributor before they would do you a favor of an earmark.
Here is a digg
http://digg.com/political_opinion/Ron_Paul_We_Need_More_Earm...
peace patriots*)
"(Better) to be confused in the search for truth than fully confident and sound asleep in a dream of lies." ~ Michael Nystrom
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dugg #8
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"If people let government decide which foods they eat and medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny."
Thomas Jefferson
Bless you!
I'm not a member of digg, but I support your work for those who are.
it's easy to become a member just a few minutes
here is a hug for you*)
I cherish your work too
you and others make the vital change.
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It's the corruption
of my machine that stops me.
When I went onto mogulus the other day I was greeted w/ my sister in law's name...
I know it wasn'ther, but an attorney I used to know who is behind it...
Can't reformat to dump his spyware with a scratched system disk...
Considering all the weird comments people make to me, I'm sure that he has created many accounts, posing as myself that I am yet unaware of...
Any account that I create will surely be hacked and used against me...
But since he's doing it anyway...
I might as well say Damn the torpedoes...
I may just disappear and create a new account so that people can reach me...
I like to keep things simple too...
Remembering passwords is not my forte...
I'm too honest I don't like creating phony identities...
So I have resisted the temptation...
Like Franklin said...
I have given up a Liberty...
For security...
Digg it # 20 - Help me out on reddit
I digg it #20 – up vote and comment on reddit – that’s where the fight is – reddit is full of Obama fans and Ron Paul haters. I could use a little help.
great to see this front page
but the thing is Ron did not do well on Cavuto he was not prepared...
peace patriot*)
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http://www.votenader.org/blog/2008/09/10/statement-to-ron-pa...
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he did better on the house floor
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"If people let government decide which foods they eat and medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny."
Thomas Jefferson
Perfection is not an option....
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Ron Paul = Red Pill
we can make things better by digging this
http://digg.com/political_opinion/Ron_Paul_We_Need_More_Earm...
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Front Page! Front Page!
Can we replace the Niel Cavuto vid with this one? Please, pretty please?
Everyone wants to better understand this issue, nice not to have to endure the disrespect shown to Ron in the other vid.
Thank you.
Thank you!
No need to replace the other, makes a great comparison.
wow. just wow.
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if you build it he will come..........Ron Paul 2012.
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Leave it up to the good Dr.
Leave it up to the good Dr. to explain to the little kids in congress what their responsibilities are.
That was great
I thought. People have a right to know what the money is being spent on.