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C4L Citizens' Petition for Redress of Grievance

Dear Governor Nixon and Attorney General Koster,

I was outraged when I recently learned that supporters of Campaign for Liberty and Congressman Ron Paul had been labeled as security threats in a report released by the Missouri Information Analysis Center.

Titled, "The Modern Militia Movement" and released on February 20, 2009, the report was disseminated to law enforcement officers throughout the state of Missouri. In the report, law enforcement is told that violent militia members are "usually" supporters of past presidential candidates like Ron Paul and can be seen with Campaign for Liberty materials.

Both Ron Paul and Campaign for Liberty champion principles of freedom, peace, and prosperity. We believe that the Founder's vision for America can be reclaimed through education and peaceful activism.

Simply supporting the Constitution does not make you worthy of a watch list; it makes you a Patriot.

It is time for the Missouri government to hear our voices and rein in reckless bureaucrats before they single out Ron Paul and Campaign for Liberty members again.

I will not support politicians who label me and others like me who love freedom and liberty as "threats" to security and place me in the same category as hate groups. It is important that you recognize the gross injustice that has taken place and, on behalf of the state of Missouri, swiftly issue a formal apology to both Ron Paul and Campaign for Liberty members.

I strongly urge you to take hold of this situation and on behalf of the state of Missouri, issue a formal apology to the Campaign for Liberty and Ron Paul.

Thank you,

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Disband MAIC and MO State Highway Patrol

Seem like they are acting as the terrorist. Remember The county Sheriff, his authority superceeds any state and federal agency.

The duly elected sheriff of a county is the highest law enforcement official within a county. He has law enforcement powers that exceed that of any other state or federal official.
http://earthhopenetwork.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=527

Good advice

in this thread. Sign the petition please.

Also, when dealing with reporters/media:

Always remind them that when a government gets too much power, journalists are executed first.

Thank you for posting again. This has been posted and is

probably viral now. That is just great. I am also receiving this same post as emails from various people and yahoo groups I am connected with. So its all good work. I signed this yesterday.

http://articlesoffreedom.us/Coalition.aspx

Its Up To Us - Articles of Freedom - New Website! Thread:
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/123543#comment-1330135

For Deeper Understanding here is what a delegate wrote:
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/123897

Sign the CFL Petition for Redress of Grievance Re:MIAC!!

Please sign the Petition for Redress and then scroll below for valuable info on Fusion Centers! PLEASE check out the links provided in my post below!

Did you know? There are 58 of these centers across the U.S. and there have already been several cases ( Maryland and Texas ) where due to the Fusion Center "profiling" of various non-violent activist groups the police have overstepped their bounds! ( see links below) This is a bi-partisan concern that will help many wake-up to the abuses of our Government and a rallying cry for Liberty!!

Let's push the tempo that has gained ground on this issue! Help make Missouri our " Line in the Sand! "

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"I truly wish that real life would no longer surpass the worst excesses of my nightmarish imaginings... Arthur Silber **

"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd

* PLEASE SEE * Very Important Info~ Links on Fusion Centers

* It would be helpful if you would please post under this post for at least a little while..else this will get buried !! Thanks*

Please save these links and read through them for a comprehensive understanding of these Fusion Centers! This is a compilation of research since last week that many of us have posted but on too many threads to track and keep up with and some of this got buried!! There is even more but please click on each one of these ...review and save these links :

Link to see /download MIAC Document here:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/13232178/MIAC-Strategic-Report-The...

Vey Informative Research Links here:

http://www.dhs.gov/xinfoshare/programs/gc_1156877184684.shtm

http://www.aclu.org/search/search_wrap.html?q=fusion+centers...

http://www.aclu.org/privacy/gen/38835prs20090225.html

http://baltimorechronicle.com/ongoing/popup.shtml#p032209

http://epic.org/privacy/fusion/questions.html

http://epic.org/privacy/fusion/

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/bal-te.md.spy18jul18,...

(As well...google "MIAC Ron Paul" and you will see pages of sites carrying this story! )

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"I truly wish that real life would no longer surpass the worst excesses of my nightmarish imaginings... Arthur Silber **

"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd

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Thanks Liberty Belle and everyone else for all your hard work on this.

P.S. Glad to see you back!!

; - ) Hope all is well with you!

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"I truly wish that real life would no longer surpass the worst excesses of my nightmarish imaginings... Arthur Silber **

"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd

Thanks, RealdeaI..I feel much better now!!

Friday when this broke from AJ some of us started researching instead of agruing! over validity! ;- ) Thanks to Cactus1010 , VP-1, sunny and all others too!!
Everyone needs to check out those links posted above...ALOT of great info!!
LOL !! I feel I've been "jumping up and down waving arms" at the back of this class!!
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"I truly wish that real life would no longer surpass the worst excesses of my nightmarish imaginings... Arthur Silber **

"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd

Report: Discussion with Lieutenant Platte at MIAC

Today I called MIAC at 866-362-6422 and spoke with Lt. Platte who has apparently been assigned as a P.R. person handling this issue - the 'Strategic Report'* about 'The Modern Militia Movement.' He said he could not provide me with a copy of the original MIAC document because it was "for Missouri police only" and that it had "leaked" into the public.

When I asked Mr. Platte if it is true that Ron Paul and C4L were specifically named in the document he said, "The document may have mentioned them, but I can't recall if it does or doesn't. I don't have it in front of me."

The Lieutenant also said twice that we (C4L members and Dr. Paul) are not being profiled in the document and that the intent of the document has been "misrepresented."

At the end of the conversation I asked Mr. Platte if it is true that Missouri police are required to uphold the U.S. Constitution. He answered in the affirmative.

I have now read the document* and I doubt any Americans would believe what Mr. Platte told me if they too would read it.

W. Campbell Douglass III MD, MS

* To open and save each page go to: http://www.infowars.com/police-trained-nationwide-that-infor...

Follow up !!!


Campbell, if you're an MD, MS, then you're a bright guy. You are also probably not very confrontational.

So I offer this challenge to you, or other Missouri residents to call Lt. Platt and hold his feet to the fire. You have his name and number in the original post (above).

He said he could not provide me with a copy of the original MIAC document because it was "for Missouri police only" and that it had "leaked" into the public.

Your response should be, "I have a copy in front of me. Let's go through it together and you can explain some of its contents."

When I asked Mr. Platte if it is true that Ron Paul and C4L were specifically named in the document he said, "The document may have mentioned them, but I can't recall if it does or doesn't. I don't have it in front of me."

Right, and the dog ate his homework. This is B.S. The appropriate response would be, "OK then. When will you have a copy in front of you so we can go through it together?" (Be prepared to tape record his responses). Pin him down! Don't let him skate off with, "Oh gee, it's not here. It's a lie. He has it and he knows what's in it."

The Lieutenant also said twice that we (C4L members and Dr. Paul) are not being profiled in the document and that the intent of the document has been "misrepresented."

And he said this from what he 'remembered' from reading the document? How was the intent 'misrepresented?" Explain that, Lieutenant. How?

At the end of the conversation I asked Mr. Platte if it is true that Missouri police are required to uphold the U.S. Constitution. He answered in the affirmative.

Well DUH. What else would he say? "Oh no, we do not follow it at all?"

Here are my suggestions to my friends in Missouri. First, this story is too important for a well-meaning Daily Paul member to call on his own. The Lieutenant made short work of you - that's his job. And you didn't press him well. I am not complaining, that is not your job. You called to ask good questions and the guy dissed you, professionally.

1. Call your local TV and Radio stations and Daily newspapers. Ask to speak with the Assignment Editor (important). Explain what's going on with this document and offer to email or FAX a copy to them. Add that you have spoken with Lieutenant Pratt and he gave you a fast shuffle, without answering anything substantively.

2, Offer to come down to the TV/Radio/Newspaper office and meet them face-to-face. Explain that our liberties are being infringed and that people who read the Constitution are being profiled. That will get their attention.

3. Call Lt. Pratt from the TV/Radio/Newspaper outlet, with reporters listening in - making sure they have the documents in front of them. If the Lieutenant tries to snowball you again, let the reporter or editor take over. They know how to throw fastballs and they aim at the head. This guy needs a grilling and I'm afraid you didn't give him one.

Good luck, Missouri!

Thanks Michael Nystrom

I signed petition! There's another DP thread http://www.dailypaul.com/node/86539 " I gave my mom 84 the bad news " I think they have a good idea!! do you know where to find the info/video's of Dr. Paul doing these interviews/speech's with these senior citizens that supported him during the Prez campaign,I think if some one could contact these seniors and do another video'd interview with them finding out that they are now on a watch list could make for some very interresting comments,that we could put on youtube and other sites.What do you think? I checked on youtube for the 2008 Prez,campaign senior citizen's video's but came up blank.

bump for Michael!!

:o)

Standing, that's all we need.

To initiate a lawsuit for defamation of character. These people need to be sued....repeatedly.

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A small body of determined spirits fired by an unquenchable faith in their mission can alter the course of history.
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A small body of determined spirits fired by an unquenchable faith in their mission can alter the course of history.
~Mahatma Gandhi

If

we could only prove that Michael Chertoff and the ADL are the ring leaders in this slander we could make them eat every word.
I bet FOX would be up for it.
Someone said earlier that the ADL wrote the report, can we prove that?

"It's just one big club... and WE ain't in it!"

"Tyrants fear nothing more than insubordination"

"It's just one big club... and WE ain't in it!"

Needs media legs

ASAP, Glenn Beck, CNN. It will grow our numbers and put those responsible in the spot light.
E Pluribus Unum

E Pluribus Unum

FYI~ Please read!!!

Google ~MIAC Ron Paul
There are pages and pages where you can see how this is spreading on the net since last week! I would expect the MSM will pick this up from having various groups sending out press release statements to the MSM.
As well, individuals such as ourselves need to be sending out the story to MSM , radio and newspapers and all our personal contacts asking them to do the same.
The first one to break the story was Alex Jones, but due to some peoples opinion of him it was not believed by many for several days..meanwhile many others took it upon themselves to start digging for info to find out as much as possible about it instead of arguing over AJ's report or waiting for others to verify or discredit. It's called "personal responsibility". I think everyone here knows how to use google.. lol!

The first group that I saw that has been a leader in taking action is this group ..they called, investigated, came up with a press release and action plan ASAP! Many thanks to the Liberty Restoration Project for thier quick activism! Here is an action plan they sent out and are following up on (if you would look at their home page bulletin board )

http://www.libertyrestorationproject.org/2009/03/15/action-p...
and here is a "phone in" template scroll to read
http://www.libertyrestorationproject.org/2009/03/16/call-mis...

Now also Chuck Baldwin, Restore the Republic, CFL and numerous other Liberty groups have released statements which you can use all or part of to send out or for phone calling to spread this story!

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"I truly wish that real life would no longer surpass the worst excesses of my nightmarish imaginings... Arthur Silber **

"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd

Jeez, I thought that it was

Jeez, I thought that it was just a false bit of information released to get us up in arms so that somebody did something stupid, but this is my third time seeing that report, and on C4L to boot! This is getting ridiculous.

It will be ignored...

and when it is, they will merely prove Patrick Henry right once again, 234 years later.

"I have but one lamp by which my feet are guided; and that is the lamp of experience. I know of no way of judging of the future but by the past. And judging by the past, I wish to know what there has been in the conduct of the British ministry for the last ten years, to justify those hopes with which gentlemen have been pleased to solace themselves, and the House? Is it that insidious smile with which our petition has been lately received? Trust it not, sir; it will prove a snare to your feet. Suffer not yourselves to be betrayed with a kiss. Ask yourselves how this gracious reception of our petition comports with these war-like preparations which cover our waters and darken our land. Are fleets and armies necessary to a work of love and reconciliation? Have we shown ourselves so unwilling to be reconciled, that force must be called in to win back our love? Let us not deceive ourselves, sir. These are the implements of war and subjugation; the last arguments to which kings resort. I ask, gentlemen, sir, what means this martial array, if its purpose be not to force us to submission? Can gentlemen assign any other possible motive for it? Has Great Britain any enemy, in this quarter of the world, to call for all this accumulation of navies and armies? No, sir, she has none. They are meant for us; they can be meant for no other. They are sent over to bind and rivet upon us those chains which the British ministry have been so long forging. And what have we to oppose to them? Shall we try argument? Sir, we have been trying that for the last ten years. Have we anything new to offer upon the subject? Nothing. We have held the subject up in every light of which it is capable; but it has been all in vain. Shall we resort to entreaty and humble supplication? What terms shall we find which have not been already exhausted? Let us not, I beseech you, sir, deceive ourselves. Sir, we have done everything that could be done, to avert the storm which is now coming on. We have petitioned; we have remonstrated; we have supplicated; we have prostrated ourselves before the throne, and have implored its interposition to arrest the tyrannical hands of the ministry and Parliament. Our petitions have been slighted; our remonstrances have produced additional violence and insult; our supplications have been disregarded; and we have been spurned, with contempt, from the foot of the throne. In vain, after these things, may we indulge the fond hope of peace and reconciliation. There is no longer any room for hope. If we wish to be free² if we mean to preserve inviolate those inestimable privileges for which we have been so long contending²if we mean not basely to abandon the noble struggle in which we have been so long engaged, and which we have pledged ourselves never to abandon until the glorious object of our contest shall be obtained, we must..."

There is no other way to take this pamphlet issued in Missouri OTHER than an attempt at profiling. Their is no other use for the information than to view with suspicion anyone who fits any category in that document. To claim it merely is an aggregation of trends is a lie. Distributing such 'trends' can ONLY have the intent of wanting the police forces to 'be on the lookout' and to lay the foundation for 'reasonable suspicion' for detaining and questioning law abiding citizens. The damage is done. It will take more than a simple retraction and public apology. It will take an ACTIVE effort and campaign of PROPER instruction in Constitutional Law and American History so that officers understand their role and place in the government and how they are and are NOT to treat citizens. And that will never happen. Not in our lifetimes. Not with these clowns at the helm. Every public official, under oath, who distributes this pamphlet, defends it, and does not stand firm against it and attempt to bring the other perps to justice, is likewise in violation of their own oath of office, and a hair's breath away from treason.

Don't expect a miracle. But I understand if some people must try anyway.

best bet is probably

best bet is probably building your own community, don't expect a country which laughs at the constitution to start taking its oaths seriously. panarchy.org has some refreshing ideas on a way that we could fight this peacefully and practically. At least when combined with Ghandi and Thoreau's non-violent non-cooperation.

The news story

is getting legs. Amcon mag now has a story on it.

http://www.amconmag.com/blog/2009/03/17/are-ron-paul-support...

Getting 10 or 20k signatures on this petition, will become the 2nd part of the news story....

First, MO declares them terrorists, now there are 20,000 of them stepping up and wanting to know why..... 20,000 terrorists? What is Homeland Security doing?

It's a media war people, a MEDIA war,

Lets get Glenn Beck and Savage in on this. Anyone email them?

IT IS NOT A WASTED VOTE!

IT IS NOT A WASTED VOTE!

bump for sweet victory!

we are winning right now look at how the media has changed
bitch all you want just KEEP IT UP!!!!!!!

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Bob Schultz of We the People Congress has explained this ... the only problem with our First Amendment Right to Petition for Redress of Grievances is ... we don't exercise it. Is this not the purpose of WTP and C4L ... providing us with the tools to exercise our rights? ... if we don't use them we don't have them.

Bob Schulz has been petititoning the government for over a

decade, all to no avail. That is why he is taking it to the next level which is the Continental Congress 2009. He has seen what doesn't work and now is seeking answers of how to overcome this gridlock. This is an ingenious plan to get 3 delegates/state to debate the issues and post daily updates on websites that their state citizens can blog with. It will represent a national freedom think tank for the 2-3 week period and hopefully morph into a permanent freedom think tank. Couple this with a Liberty Anti Defamation League headed by Judge Andrew Napolitano and state constitutional militias and you have brains, teeth, and arms in your court while the ball is in theirs.

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I believe the problem for WTP was they were not able to get enough petition names in their signature drives to attain critical mass and of course money to fund the process. It's amazing Bob has been able to achieve what he has on a shoe-string budget.

Signed it

Folks, don't be hatin' on this idea yet. What else is C4L suppose
to do on this? There will be multiple responses to this and many
of us will have creative ideas. Hoping that Judge Napolitano will
speak of this today. No matter what---good will come of this...
"they" will be exposed.

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Of course, I signed it too, BUT, I still am not convinced it

will have any effect...what else can we do? I am more aggravated right now about The Messiah's new idea to require 3rd party health insurance (paid for by the vets themselves) for our vets. To save the Treasury the money. Oh yeah, right. And who funds the Treasury? Oh yeah, that would be US!!!!! Stupid m*&^%$#*@#$%!!! OMG if the vets just ALL...took the day off in protest. Would I love to see the vets and actives LOUDLY voice their displeasure over that.

"Jump you f$#@!%s!"

You're doing exactly what

You're doing exactly what they want you to do. They know what they are doing is going to make you upset. But then you have three options
1. Do nothing
2. Do some, but rely on others to get the job done.
or the option that we ALL need to be working on.
3. Do everything we possibly can in a peaceful way by not just relying but doing something yourself. That's the only this revolution is going to happen quickly. Relying on others is just a major speed bump in the process. But I believe as many others do that we are gaining ground big time and our time is coming. But we can't stop now and simply just complain.

"Oh, foolish man, what can you not be made to believe?" - Adam Weishaupt

www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com

C4L will get just as far with this as We the People has with

their seven technically and professionally written redress petitions hand carried to all members of congress and top executive branch members. What we need to do is 1. learn from our past mistakes. 2. don't repeat past mistakes. 3. try a different approach. Here is a suggestion: Look for an organization that is very successful in what they do and follow their example. I am talking about the ADL. They don't take any crap and they use the court system to full advantage. Blacks have had made giant strides by following their example. Until the freedom movement develops their own ADL (FADL or LADL?), respect will be little more than lip service.

Support: http://www.committeesofsafety.org/ http://wethepeoplecongress.org/
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Light a BTH group candle @ gratefulness.org
Love (consciousness) is in everything including the void.

"Be wary of those who know the truth. Align yourself with those who are questing for the truth." L. Gardner

Oh I couldn't agree more with you, someguy!

The ADL has gotten the drill down. They have an army of lawyers and they SPEND the opposition down, and WEAR them down, and IMMEDIATELY go for the throat. While I, many times, just shake my head at the isssues they choose to pursue, they are EFFECTIVE. Which we, so far, have not been with our petitions, e-mails, faxes, and phone calls. I have made thousands of each and I am losing all hope of change with this method. It just does not work, and I don't know what would except that the ADL seems to "get 'er done." I like the Freedom Anti-Defamation League!

"Jump you f$#@!%s!"

This is good

We need our own lobby also to combat AIPAC.

"It's just one big club... and WE ain't in it!"

"Tyrants fear nothing more than insubordination"

"It's just one big club... and WE ain't in it!"

Now that REALLY pisses me off...

I'll be ordering many more Ron Paul bumber stickers now.

What a crock of crap. Who came up with this policy anyway???

Sounds anti-constitutional but then why should THAT surprise me...

Pawnstorm

Good intentions, but not much else


As others have written on the thread, this petition will probably not make it to the Governor's desk, or anybody else's. Petitions just don't work these days. The government - state and Federal - are a nasty and cynical lot. If they read it at all, they would then probably pass it around a get a good chuckle out of it - at our expense.

EDITED WITH A SUGGESTION:

I am not suggesting you do nothing, but writing letters, petitions and so forth won't work. Try this.

Get 10 Missouri Ron Paul supporters together. Make sure you look fairly presentable, as if you were apparing in Court. (Sorry, but it helps). Then, go to the Missouri Information Analysis Center and ask to speak to the public relations person. Or, find out who is in charge and call up to make an appointment. Go there in person, all ten of you. Meet beforehand and pick a spokesman and plan what you are going to say. Don't just storm the place and start shouting. Find out who is responsible, and what their reasons are. Hold their feet to the fire.

If you can, find out all the names of the people who work there, where they live, their home phone numbers, and so forth.

Also, find out if there is a local radio station that will report this, or cover it. TV may not, but it's worth a call.

Turn your protest into an EVENT !

Better to try than just give in

Its better to try than just give in, even if our chance to make a difference is small. If we try, we have a chance.

If we resign ourselves to powerlessness, as you seem to suggest, and just do nothing, it is pretty much guaranteed nothing will change in our favor.

I'll take the small chance... besides, what have we got to lose by signing the petition?

It is quite clear what we have to lose by not signing it.

“Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost.” -- John Quincy Adams

“Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost.” -- John Quincy Adams

Signed it.

I signed the petition.

The Missouri measure is nothing more than illegal political targeting, worthy of the most gross dictatorships. All who are responsible for the report in question should be brought for trial.

“Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost.” -- John Quincy Adams

“Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost.” -- John Quincy Adams

The more they attack.

WHEN DOES IT STOP

I'm greatly offended by the labeling of constitutionalist and the lumping of libertarians, and Ron Paul supporters, with the likes that sent planes into the World Trade Centers.
So this is what it comes down to, thats fine, more fire to the perverbial fuel. What does MIAC actually wish to acomplish...further stimulating the movement. By targeting honest, peaceful civilians, and arresting them for upholding the Constitution. It's going to hit a sensitive spot. Not to worry. This is what is expected, do you think our fore-fathers weren't for a second deemed traitors. History has a funny way of repeating itself, this time we'll do it right.
This little bit of rain isn't going to stop me from dancing. Nor should it for any of you. Do your country right. Defend it's (our) freedom...liberty....Stop this senseless war.
It's entered onto our own soil now.
If terrorism is the truth...what do we call the liars, bankers, and politicians?
If patriotism is to be blind....do we still have the ability to dream?
If dissent is treason.........................
So if you're still free start running away
Cause they're coming for ya!

Love, Peace and r3VOLution
jesse underwood

jesse underwood

Maybe I'm just in a bad

Maybe I'm just in a bad mood, but this has to be one of the top 10 dumbest petitions ever written. It sounds like a child pieced it together from text grabbed off of RPF.

"Simply supporting the Constitution does not make you worthy of a watch list; it makes you a Patriot."
LOL. Is that really in a petition to a governor and attorney general?

"It is time for the Missouri government to hear our voices and rein in reckless bureaucrats before they single out Ron Paul and Campaign for Liberty members again. "
Why would the MO government care what people from across the country have to say? We don't vote there. Neither Ron Paul or C4L members were singled out either.

"I will not support politicians who label me and others like me who love freedom and liberty as "threats" to security and place me in the same category as hate groups."
Empty 'threat' against MO politicians from residents of other states. Corny cliche phrases like 'love freedom and liberty' sound good in conversation or in an email to friends, but in a petition to a governor and attorney general? Please.

"It is important that you recognize the gross injustice that has taken place and, on behalf of the state of Missouri, swiftly issue a formal apology to both Ron Paul and Campaign for Liberty members. "
Will an apology fix the problem? No.

"I strongly urge you to take hold of this situation and on behalf of the state of Missouri, issue a formal apology to the Campaign for Liberty and Ron Paul. "
Basically the same sentence as above, but worse because this one doesn't mention the C4L members-- just the organization and Ron Paul. Again, doesn't demand a fix to the problem of political profiling.

A badly written, ineffective petition in response to a 'gross injustice'. How pathetic is that? Please refund my $35.

P.S. Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't fusion centers receive resources and funds from the DHS and DOJ? Where is the action against these agencies? Where is the action against the Federal Government?

I'm awesome.

I guess that is your opinion

but I signed it and I live in Missouri.
If it's true they are targeting us, I'll begin pasting Ron Paul stickers on cars at every Wal-Mart!
Thanks for letting me know about this petition and yeah, perhaps robert4rp08 was just in a bad mood.
Peace,

questions for you

Let me ask you a few questions:

1. Can you name a single political petition that has ever been successful in accomplishing it's goal(s)? I can't.

2. Should this petition prove successful, what is accomplished? C4L members and Ron Paul get an apology.

3. After we receive our apology, is the problem resolved? No. No one is held accountable and measures will not be put in place to prohibit this from happening again.

4. Why sign your name to a petition that is written so poorly that it actually reinforces the MIAC document to some extent and gives 'them' your information? I'll be writing my own coherent letter.

I'm awesome.

thanks for your thoughts on this

I wasn't happy with it either, and you have explained why. For some reason I keep leaning towards ignoring this whole thing.

Perhaps this "special notice" is to our benefit...the authorities will be more on the lookout for bad behavior which we don't want in the movement anyway.

Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't feel outraged. I didn't take it personally...

Done.

However, is this what 'they' want us to do ? Basically get all the names to...I don't know....It all seems so bizarre. There were some election shenanigans in Missouri regarding Ron Paul votes at the Caucus if I remember correctly. ?

On another note: Even though "done" is poor grammar, it's widely accepted as 'finished'.
As My Grandmother would say:
"The cake is Done, You are finished."

But I digress

if you not already on 10 lists then your not doing your job.

:-)

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if you build it he will come..........Ron Paul 2012.

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if you build it he will come..........Ron Paul 2012.
digg http://digg.com/autos/First_Genuine_Chevy_Volt_to_be_Complet...

Done! Got this in email

Done! Got this in email too as I suppose all other C4L did. Let's keep it going and hope they get a few 100k sigs!

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Trust in God, but tie your camel tight.

http://www.campaignforliberty.com/user/BeaReady/
http://www.ohiofreedom.com/subd/

Trust in God, but tie your camel tight.

http://www.ohiofreedom.com

I signed it and forwarded it

Pass it on!

"Every generation needs a new r3VOLution"- Thomas Jefferson

There are legal liabilities here

that could be pursued.

Can you give more info

please? Lawyers in the family.......I would like to approach them with the correct info.

Damaging ones reputation with false information

can harm someone in a number of ways including financially. They could be sued for slander!

done.

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if you build it he will come..........Ron Paul 2012.

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if you build it he will come..........Ron Paul 2012.
digg http://digg.com/autos/First_Genuine_Chevy_Volt_to_be_Complet...

Done! Thanks!

Sign it!

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"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd