
Anger with TeaPartyDay Leadership
Submitted by Dime on Sat, 03/21/2009 - 06:26
This came in from one of the organizers in the teapartyday events.
I want to thank them for standing up to the "leader" of their group and I do hope something positive will happen out of this.
The Indy Defenders of Liberty statement
http://www.meetup.com/The-Indy-Defenders-of-Liberty/messages...
" Hi all ~ We were involved in a conference call last night with the National Tea Party Leaders and all of the Tea Party Coordinators and Organizers across the country (about 80 volunteers). The leader, Michael Leahy, announced that he wanted to include in all Tea Parties a food drive....for all Tea Partiers to bring a non-perishable food items to their individual Tea Parties to attract mainstream media attention. Well, this didn't sit well with a number of the callers, including Richard and myself. So....Richard sent a letter today to ALL of the Leaders, Organizers and Coordinators of the National Tea Party to voice the concern in diluting this event into just another food drive. Here is the content of that letter:
Mr. Michael Patrick Leahy,
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!
Did I understand you to say that you want us to include a food drive with the Tea Party event to appeal to the mainstream media…to give them something positive to report?
ARE YOU FREAKIN’ KIDDING ME!
“Sucking up” to the media is not going to provide creditability, certainly not in any positive manner, as to who we and for what reason we are gathering…no matter what “friendly”, “sensitive” olive branch that is offered. Certainly not a can of green beans! I am willing to offer one of my children as sacrificial collateral to the fact that the people who are and will be involved in the Tea Party events have individually given more in charity to their communities the past year than Barack Hussein Obama has given in his life time. I am not spending my time and monies, putting my job in jeopardy, and not giving my children enough attention simply for another CANNED FOOD DRIVE. The Tea Parties are about getting THIS government out of our homes, businesses, and lives…the Tea Parties are about FREEDOM!
The unifying message of these Tea Parties is/should be loud and clear:
CONGRESS, REPEAL THE STIMULUS PACKAGES NOW AND
UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA OR
WE WILL REPLACE EVERY MEMBER OF CONGRESS STARTING IN 2010.
Obama’s socialist administration, cabinet, and congressional comrades have us face down in the dirt, twisting our arms behind our backs…while working up their “toadies” in mob pitch…AND, blaming us for fighting back. A CAN OF GREEN BEANS IS NOT GOING MAKE THE BULLY LIKE YOU! Ask Prime Minister Chamberlain. Bullies (and congressional moderates and cowards) understand fear…we DO NOT need to advocate physical fear (yet), our fathers before us ALREADY PAID THE PRICE WITH THEIR BLOOD…but, they will certainly feel the “fear” of thousands of Americans standing up for freedom and gathering, demanding our representatives run our country’s business by the laws established by the Constitution of the United States – NOW – or they will be replaced starting in 2010 until ALL of them are out of elected government.
Now, if we want media attention, let’s take a lesson from the original Tea Partiers. The original men dressed up like Native Indians not to disguise their identities…everyone knew who they were. They dressed up like Indians to emphasize the “radical” point that they (Americans) were NOT going to be treated like “heathens” any longer by the English crown (government). You desire media attention? Titillate the main stream media by leaking that our Tea Parties are going to have an “anti-slavery” message…cameras WILL show up. Picture men, womEn, and children in chains (black face?) with banners and signs declaring “WE WILL NOT BE ENSLAVED BY THIS GOVERNMENT!” – “LET THE AMERICAN PEOPLE GO!” – “FREE US FROM THE WHIPS OF PELOSI AND REID!”
Oh, I could go on…but, to wrap up. The time is NOW. Our current events DEMAND (as they did at the American founding) that we answer the question: Are we subjects of this government, or are we a free people? A canned food drive DOES NOT express any urgency or resolve one way or the other. If you want to collect food…do it through your church or local organizations. If you believe you are FREE, and want to remain that way, come to a Tea Party event and be seen and heard.
We need STRONG leadership with a RESOLVE to protect and preserve freedom. Not the same tired tactics and suck-ups from the past…which have given up our freedoms won for us with blood from our founders. If I see or hear one more Republican politician – for instance, fellow Hoosier congressmen Mike Pence or Newt Gingrich – speak in a calm, civil tone…sucking up to “President Obama” and then adding how he disagrees with whatever policy, procedural process, or political happening of the day, like it’s business as usual, I am going to come unglued. I want to see my representatives being dragged from their prospective wells of congress, kicking and screaming, fighting for FREEDOM.
Mr. Leahy, resolve right now to run these events with strength, non-apologetically and with the intent to WIN BACK our freedom. Not to gain mainstream media recognition or acceptance by offering such STUPID and weak attempts to say “Hey, we’re nice guys, see all the cans of green beans we collected?”… or get the hell out of the way.
Oh! And don’t tell me “It’s too expensive and difficult to plan a tea party event for Washington D.C.” ARE YOU FREAKIN’ KIDDING ME?, again! I’LL PLAN IT, ORGANIZE IT, AND FIND A WAY TO PAY FOR IT! Anyone have the COURAGE to join me?
Now is the time to act. Our very FREEDOMS depend on it. Brother, we must be heard!
My name is RICHARD JOHN BEHNEY, the Indianapolis Tea Party organizer; along with my wife, Laura. I believe in Life, Liberty, and Pursuit of Happiness. I PLEDGE MY LIFE, FORTUNE, AND SACRED HONOR to uphold and defend, against enemies foreign and DOMESTIC, the Constitution of the United States of America!
Anything less is just radio talk show “chatter”. Canned food drive…ARE YOU FREAKIN’ KIDDING ME?!
FREEDOM,
Richard Behney"
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Be the light
I'm organizing a Tea Party in my area want you all to come to my town with your End the Fed and 1207 signs/info. Be the light, not the one who curses the darkness.
These idiots are getting
These idiots are getting input from the loser that ran RP's National Campaign and now the CFL.. WHAT DO YOU EXPECT
Next they will do mailers to the TP people asking for money... Yeah, Waste postage on asking for money... I have got 5 mail pieces in as many weeks..... TRASH fodder... Freeking Idiot......
Tim
GOLD
What are u talking about?
What are u talking about?
I still haven't heard back.
I still haven't heard back. What are u talking about?
If you are going to make a statement, please come back and support your position. Thanks
Defending our nation means more than just talking.
...uphold and defend, against enemies foreign and DOMESTIC, the Constitution of the United States of America!
BY ALL MEANS NECESSARY. Forget about your little 'tea' bags, forget about your pacifist marches. They mean nothing to these overlords of the government. The self-elected imperial Kings and Queens will simply close the drapes so that they need not look at you; There left ear will let pass through to their right ear, anything that you have to say. Our founding fathers knew this to be true. Does not the Constitution tell you this? Have you not been docile long enough? Are you willing to repeat the failed logic of all that have tried such simplistic measures before you? How about growing a pair and actually taking back what is ours, instead of just 'talking' or 'marching' about it. Protecting our individual sovereignty demands nothing less now in our country's history.
The enemy of the United States is anyone, or anything, that would seek to do harm to its citizens and its Constitutional protections. The Senate, House of Representatives, and the current Administration have proved their guilt by their contemptuous acts towards America. Have we not been harmed enough already?
This is a great example
Of why no one in the Freedom Movement should take part in the Tea Parties!! Rally NEXT to them - push HR 1207 - rally against the FED - hand out AFTF movies - because these Neocon Tea Party morons have no idea why they are protesting.
If Mr. Behney and the rest of these Neocon War Mongers that were silent during Bush's Bailout had an ounce of morals or ideals congruent with Liberty they would have supported Ron Paul. I say make fun of them and rally against them at the same time!
Because - and everyone knows this - we may get one or two on our side. But, the rest will fall into the sheeple ranks at the word "boo" from the RNC. This whole Tea Party movement was created by the RNC to push purely partisan attitudes and further split the nation. It's disgusting.
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"We are the inheritors of the American Enlightenment, which tells us that Individual Liberty always trumps collectivism in all forms."
I'm going to the events.
I'm going to the events. It's a great way to introduce them to the Campaign For Liberty.
Get a haircut and wear a
Get a haircut and wear a nice suit. You'll blend right in.
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"The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic..." —Alan Moore
Exactly
At the tea party we had here in Tallahassee last week - the organizer was considerate enough to introduce our local C4L/RLC organizers....We'll be at the next one too!
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I'm going too
Taking my End the FEd signs and banners and my campaign for liberty/Ron Paul and all my other constitutional terrorist peraphenalia!
this has to do with tolerance levels
i am proud that these people are from my state!! how many times have i yelled at my computer and neighbors about these very same kind of things, yet these true patriots put it in print! we do all have our roles and i believe it boils down to patience. some people are more patient than others IMO because of what they know or dont know. obviously those that are better informed are going to be more pissed. everything is moving in the right direction. everything is coming to a head. i am so fortunate to see so many standing for individual liberty for all, in their own ways.
~peace
~peace
Dude
Food pantries are hard hit right now. You're reading too much into it.
What do you suggest?
What do you suggest?
During the presidential campaign
There was a meetup group that collected food and as I recall, that hd a very possitive affect to the Ron Paul campaign. So, my first thought is that this is where the idea of the food contributions came from. I don't see it as a seperate issue or diluting the message, I see it as a bait for those who need to get the message.
Read "The Toilet Assumption" by Phillip Slater
This is a perfect example of what he describes. Actually, the whole teaparty concept is. The original teaparty involved breaking the law, property destruction, and true passion. The modern teaparty involves people getting together to bitch and moan (about 35 years late, but hey) and the only committment it involves is stopping by food lion for some teabags (and sales tax). We should at least steal the teabags.
The canned food drive thing is just stupid and unrelated. I'm not downplaying these little gatherings, because I know how that feels, but I am here to say that unless people figure out a way to significantly step up the game, we'll have a world government and lose national sovereignty by the end of the year.
There are 3 kinds of people in this movement: 1) The truly committed who will do anything to win freedom
2) The 1/2 committed, who don't quite get it all but know they don't like the way things are. 3) The profiteers, those who see the movement as a good way to make money or advance themselves.
I think the teapartys are and have always been run by the profiteers and are mostly attended by the 1/2 committed.
But they are
an excellent place to spread the message to an already geared up crowd hopefully looking for answers to liberty and getting back to small government. Many probably don't quite get it. isn't it our job to help them get it? Maybe get some people more committed. it could be a great oppotunity. besides didn't Ron paul Groups start the tea parties long ago in the first place? if we don't learn to include and welcome people who agree on some of our issues but maybe not all we will never have the numbers we need. I think we have some waking up to do.Have we forgotten our purpose? If we truly want to grow we can not exclude and bejudgemental of everyone who hasn't been with us from the start. I was given an invitation to the tea party in my area from someone in my republican committee and was glad to be invited and asked if he would like for me to bring my signs and banners from the end the fed rally and he was thrilled. He also said thier would be someone from campaign for liberty speaking.
yep
What he said.
Why would
the organizers not leave it up to participating individuals whether they want to bring any charitable giveaways, food or otherwise?
The socialists are giving away all our things left and right already without the FREEDOM to choose.
That's like rolling around in a mud hole with them by appealing to the media with this quid pro quo idea, imho.
The Teaparty's message is Liberty, not charity. Charity begins @ home.
Mixed message
I believe that food drive would create a mixed message and dilute the real meaning behind the protest.
Speaking for myself I would be a little bit afraid to bring a can of green beans to a protest. You might be wondering why? Because I might get arrested by throwing it at a government official and creating a riot. Yes I can see the headlines now "Revolution Starts with Green Beans." (Just kidding).
However, as far getting the mainstream media's attention do what other activists have done in the past, such as Martin Luther King, Rev. Jesse Jackson just to name a few and I am sure there are several more. These activists bused in hundreds of people to the protest. If there were 100,000 people or more standing in the streets would get the mainstream media's attention.
Just my two cents.
A message for all...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeYscnFpEyA&feature=channel_page
Ummmm....?
Um, you're all talking about no compromises, but yet you're still willing to work within the Republican Party? Isn't that a compromise?
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SO WHAT?!
Are you all so cowardly that you'll let someone else dictate what you say or what you stand for? There's thousands going to these events that were close to our message and they just need a little more information to get there. Now is not the time for fair weather patriots. Get out there with a bullhorn and let them know the truth, but don't backbite people who are bringing together thousands of conservatives, that's a thousand times worse then anything you're NOT doing now.
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Tea Party...gone politically correct?
Reading this makes me feel all yucky inside...when the movement bows to political correctness, the true feelings of dissent, the edginess, goes away. Overthrow the government and feed the poor?!
Please do not use this man's ancestry as a reason to call him a "self-proclaimed hack;" rather, use his words and make sure to mention his evangelical Christianity, which I would personally fear he would proceed to shove down my throat were I to have the misfortune to meet him. I claim ancestry from several Revolutionary War patriots myself, and draw great strength from knowing that they suffered so much in the cause of freedom (some were even prisoners of war). They give me the bravery to carry on in this movement, and I honor them. But...I agree, this doesn't give this person any special powers or abilities.
There are so many of these tea parties that I also wonder which are worth attending; I'm not going to let this stop me from going to one. Be sure, though, to use the opportunity to educate people about RP and the Constitution. After all, we are after a *revolution,* not *reform*...
Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.
Thomas Jefferson
Malo periculosam libertatem quam quietam servitutem. ("I prefer the tumult of liberty to the quiet of servitude"). Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 30 January 1787.
It's quite annoying that all
It's quite annoying that all this energy is being directed to a canned food drive and not to the real issue at hand--rule of law.
wait a minute. I have heard
wait a minute. I have heard of RP supporters collecting food for local shelters during the pres campaign. We have done that!
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-7625352.html
with all due respect, you need to build alliances and stop looking for reasons to not attend these tea parties. Take your end the fed sign.
We Ron Paul volunteers had
We Ron Paul volunteers had to do unique events to get media attention so my point wasn't to slight anyone. However, this Tea Party Day organization appears to have muscle behind it and with as many serious-minded people who are totally fed up with the government and with it being heavily promoted by Glenn Beck, they want to turn all of this energy into a national media blitz about raising canned goods for people. Am I missing something here?
I am a volunteer for many groups in my community as we have forged coalitions and I can assure you, you will not be finding us collecting canned goods at our www.RevoltAtTheStatehouse.com event on March 25th.
They steal your money through the stimulus & bailouts and then allow the federal reserve to take even more through their printing presses and now we are asked to drop off some canned goods. So they take our liberty, they take our money, now they want our food.
Good luck. some people have
Good luck. some people have not reached our boiling point. I understand it is frustrating that we have seen this whole thing coming and they wouldn't listen. Like children. Poor RP has been yelling from the mountaintop for 30 years. I understand what you are saying.
"building alliances" is dangerous ground
That is where people start saying things like "You have to give a little to get a little" and then you strike deals to get more votes for your idea, and for those votes you let a little lie go by unchallenged, because SO many people believe it and you need to "build alliances" right now, truth can wait...
I do not agree with this line of thought, here is what it cost me: I "went along" with the assumption that I was a Christian when I started calling RP supporters to be PCPs. "For the greater good" and all. Well, the day came when I HAD to stand up for myself, people were deeply infringing on my religious freedom. The last big meeting I attended, a man cornered me about my religion, I told him I was not a Christian as politely as could be. He turned his back, walked away and would not even look at me after that. So much for that "alliance." Over and over, I find people who want me to be quiet about anything they disagree with. They LOVE that I am willing to speak out about whatever issue we agree on, but I really need to "stop damaging the movement" by talking about (pick your taboo: 9-11, Zionism, chemtrails, vaccines, GMO food, flouridated water...)
I stand alone, upon my principles. OK, I am so blessed I never stand alone, my husband is always there with me and maybe that is why I don't feel the need to compromise with people who can't face the truth, but I would not have it any other way.
Truth is the only ally I desire. Maybe one day TRUTH will be a force worthy of a rally, worth building alliances upon.
I understand your frustration.
I understand your frustration. I find it waste of time and energy to "argue" with neighbors and relatives on political and social issues. I will continue to send forth pertinent news and books when they are receptive, but now I am more focused on building self-preservation type of local networks completely void of political or social affiliations. Here's an example:
http://www.arminarm.us/
right on!!!
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I have not been keeping it up or doing all I intended with it (yet) but it is having the desired effect in my little town already. And by starting with "Lets figure out how to take care of ourselves" I am free to discuss whatever may come up as we chat... And there is just about ALWAYS some "crazy theory" that my neighbor believes in already. It is a VERY different conversation when THEY start it, and I am the one telling THEM they are NOT crazy.
So, if you are agsinst the
So, if you are agsinst the bailouts and a christian GOP person is against the bailouts, the two of you could not come together on one issue? Remember we needed the French to beat the British. Your religion and chem trails and 911 or anything else has nothing to do with bailouts. Don't be so beligerent. No one is asking you to give up anything and I admire you for your principled stances.
and don't give up anything,,,,
I respectfully point out you do not know my situation
People ARE asking me to "give up" something. In my real world activism, I have people asking me to be exactly what they want me to be, and asking me to not participate if I insist on being myself. The Christian who walked away from ME was such an example. I was there, ready willing and able to join forces, they will not accept non-Christians locally. And the FIRST thing I was told at the FIRST Ron Paul meetup I attended was that I had to leave 9-11 alone, or not associate with the Ron Paul meetup. Many other examples exist.
My recommendation is that everyone else needs to get more belligerent, this has gone WAY too far already. Enough waving signs at each other, time to let politicians SEE "angry mobs" - preferably angry mobs who are educating people, THAT is what really scares them.
I do what I do, it gets zero media attention and that is just dandy with me. If the day ever comes, we shall see who prepared more effectively.
Paul4won ...
I have a video for you ...
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/03132009/watch.html
Be patient and I urge you to watch it.
I think it will be helpful.
WAHOR!!
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/48994
WAHOR!!
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/48994
Paul4won
Be patient my child...
Meditiate...
You will receive further messages in the future...
from PBS...
Stay tuned...
But, be patient...
If you will only make your self as a humble child, I will bestow my wisdom upon you...
Go in peace now...
You have your role...
I have spoken...
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As Predicted.
The neocons (by any other name/label) are out to take over the freedom/RP/liberty movement. Once you learn who these people [sic] are you know their modus operandi and they become quite predictable.
the local "You're friggin' kidding me" twist
The event was moved from the State Capitol to "Anne Frank Memorial Park."
Yeah. We have a park across from the Capitol, one in the heart of downtown, and dozens of large and small parks around town. Someone decided the place for a tax protest is off in some out-of-the-way park, but what a GREAT reminder to feel sorry for the poor, poor, Zionist bankers...
We were loading some plywood the other day, when a rabbi pulls in behind us, looks at my "Peacemoneger" "Ron Paul" "Nature is my Church" set of bumper stickers, and the fear became obvious in his face. It really made me angry... ironically enough.... I wanted to scream at him "You idiot - do you not understand I want PEACE!?" I am the last person who is likely to harm another human. That would be the type of activity the banksters and their political minions engage in.
I also heard the same story
I also heard the same story from organizers in my state who I will keep their names and locations private until they give me permission to post their thoughts. At this point they are thinking about withdrawing their association to the teapartyday organization to focus their activism upon offering real solutions.
I didn't get to talk to my
I didn't get to talk to my friends today. Anyone have more news on this?
I will make another
I will make another announcement after March 26th in regards to this story as there is a little more information I left out...