NY Times: A.P. to Take On Web Aggregators, Like Us?
Submitted by SteveMT on Mon, 04/06/2009 - 17:46
April 6, 2009
Taking aim at the way news is spread across the Internet, The Associated Press said on Monday that it will demand that Web sites obtain permission to use the work of The A.P. or its member newspapers, and share revenue with the news organizations, and that it will take legal action those that do not.
Associated Press executives said the policy was aimed at major search engines like Google, Yahoo and their competitors, and also at news aggregators like the Huffington Post, as well as companies that sell packaged news services. They said they do not want to stop the appearance of articles around the Web, but to exercise some control over it and to profit from it. The A.P. also said it is developing a system to track news articles online and determine whether they were used legally.
The A.P. board, composed mostly of newspaper industry executives, “unanimously agreed to work with portals and other partners who legally license our content and who reward” those who gather the news, the A.P. chairman, William Dean Singleton, said Monday in a speech at the group’s annual meeting, in San Diego. “We can no longer stand by and watch others walk off with our work under misguided legal theories,” he said.
News aggregators have long asserted that collecting snippets of articles — usually headlines and a sentence or two — is allowed under the legal doctrine of “fair use.” News organizations have been reluctant to test that idea in court, and it is still not clear whether The A.P. is willing to do so.
“This is not about defining fair use,” said Sue Cross, executive vice president of the group. “There’s a bigger economic issue at stake here that we’re trying to tackle.”
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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/07/business/media/07paper.htm...
Sign of impending death?
How often are we linking to news from the AP anyway? If they are hurting so badly, why don't they sign up for Senator Ben Cardin's Newspaper Bailout (oops, he calls it "revitalization") Bill? Shouldn't we bail out *all* moribund institutions?
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They're already dying a slow death
Let the propaganda engines kill themselves quicker!
antiwar.com
Perhaps the best aggregator of news from all stretches of our empire is antiwar.com. They pretty much function like a not-for-profit org.
Guess the question would be, is it between profit and non-profit organizations? Is the Daily Paul a site run for profit, or none? Newspapers might transform into not-for-profit outfits, pretty soon.
Well, with ACTA coming along, and the government, at will, shutting down parts of the internet, we are in the fight for our lives. We, the bearers of truth, must go out, among the flock, and proselytize.
€$#$#$We need to build political strength and political will^&^
We need to build political strength and political will.
All of these announcements and maneuvering is the prelude....
to Internet 2, a safer more secure internet. Whether profit or non-profit, attempts will be made to limit the freedom to move information from point A to point B. First though, the information must still be able to be accessed.
I think you're right. We have major news about Internet & Guns.
What does that mean?
Our government is getting ready to attack them both.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media."
-- William Colby, former Director of CIA
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Communication and Protection = The net & guns. Without..
these two essentials, we will be challenged greatly. With HR 875, they are also working the Food piece of their enslavement puzzle.
These people are so sick.
They're ignorant
They want to artificially control the supply of something that is infitinitely abundant, competition is agressive. They will commit virtual suicide if they try this....especially in a time where people are increasingly seeking alternative news. They are ignorant in not realizing that there is also a near infinite demand if they played their cards right.
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We need a better news alternative than these fools anyway.
Ap covers only what they want to cover, not news that is actually relevant.
They might not be talking about us small potatoe folks
I think they're more concerned about the high revenue sites like Comcast who run their work.
But in any case they are stupid for pissing and moaning about the free exposure they get from all the sites out there.
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Censorship
Under another name, but its censorship all the same. The print media especially are in dire straights, you can bet they will twist every rubber arm in Washington for some kind of crackdown on the internet.
reminds me
of how musicians originally hated records
of how stage actors originally hated cameras
and how bands originally hated napster
before embracing the technoligy to make money, they all thought these technologies were actually the problem. looking back, we can see how silly that is.
what's more stupid is that, in less plagiarizing, the AP isn't even allowed to moderate the press for using their work. for example, if i wrote an article stating that the AP said x and y, then that's public domain. I have an inherent right to talk about it. Nothing can abridge that.
We
Dont need there news. Like others have said we will rewrite it to our likeing
Who the hell would want to
Who the hell would want to use anything from the NY Times or the AP anyway? Both are propaganda rags for the NWO elite so why would we have any interest in the garbage they produce? They will be history sooner than you think, we don't need them.
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Sometimes they do report on subjects that tells us that..
what we are doing is working, or that they are moving forward with their agenda, or to document that they are producing garbage.
Will other services follow their lead is the question.
They lose
Aggregators can re-write (plagiarize) the AP articles just like retail MSM.
That's the first thing that
That's the first thing that came to my mind. People will just rewrite the articles w/ minor differences. Problem solved.
HIGHLY unlikely that they'd go after the DP...
More likely - they'll go after sites with MUCH deeper pockets, first. Then the case will most definitely go to court, where it will undoubtedly get thrown out under Fair Use provisions. And that will be the end of it. Regardless of what "Sue" says, this IS about defining fair use. And they haven't got a prayer of stopping dissemination under those parameters. Besides, DP is NOT a "news aggregator" like Google, Yahoo, HP or those other "packaged news services." DP is simply a discussion forum, with a a few snippets of news and commentary thrown in, strictly for non-profit discussion and educational purposes. We are no where NEAR AP's radar, IMHO.....
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Unless they wanted to shut a
Unless they wanted to shut a site like DailyPaul down. This is a great way for them to do just that.
That is the thing that is scary about hard-to-enforce-laws. You may think that you are safe because everyone does it, but it gives the government all of the excuse they need to haul you in when they so choose.
In this case, we're not talking about the gov't...
...we're talking about AP trying to maximize their dwindling profits. The key phrase in the article is, "and share revenue." Such being the case, there's zero incentive for them to hassle poor folk like us (since the DP doesn't produce any revenue to speak of - ask Michael :-)). Conversely, there's LOTS of incentive for them to TRY and go after Google, Yahoo, etc (and still ultimately fail, I'm betting). Ain't nuthin' to be scared of here, folks....
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Lest we forget Sheppard Fairey
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Who is fighting AP, eh?
http://www.usnews.com/blogs/god-and-country/2009/04/06/a-chu...