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New Research Contradicts Pentagon 9-11 Story

I don't usually start 9-11 threads, but this article is a must-read. It was originally published in the April 2009 edition of the Rock Creek Free Press, a Washington D.C. newspaper with a circulation of about 20,000. It now appears for free online here:

New Research Contradicts 9/11 Story

I encourage everyone to go to the website of the two researchers whose work the article is based around (there is a link in the article too) and actually WATCH THE VIDEOS/INTERVIEWS so you can see how conclusively this evidence proves that the plane did not hit the building or light poles. In my experience the only people who argue this fact are individuals who have not done this, and they always have the same questions, which they would know the answers to if they actually took the time to watch the videos.

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Listen to this...

Infowar

Alex Jones has been telling us from day one. Actually, before day one. He predicted 9/11: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGtOFudmHG8.

Oops, this was a response to humanic's last post.

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There can be only one permanent revolution - a moral one: The regeneration of the inner man. — Tolstoy

I remember when i first saw this Pentacon film a few years ago

I thought to myself okay this will have to the documentary that makes people stand up and take notice but it didn't and I pushed it out to as many people as I could.

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I know

It's still waiting to explode. It's going to happen though soon. The evidence was conclusive then, but now it's just insane. Have you seen The Northside Flyover and the other videos they've released since The Pentacon?

I've noticed that there has been a relentless disinfo campaign against these guys going on since day one, and it continues to this day. Anywhere this information is discussed the same handful of posters pop up and tell ridiculous lies that anyone who has seen the information would see right through. But they say it with such a confident tone that onlookers are often willing to take their word for it.

People need to wake up to how this game is played and learn to look into things for themselves.

Twenty-Five Ways To Suppress Truth, The Rules of Disinformation
http://www.whale.to/m/disin.html

Eight Traits of the Disinformationalist
http://www.whale.to/b/sweeney.html

I haven't seen the north side fly over. i will watch it now.

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As the 9/11 information management machine continues

Look, I think it is fine to investigate and present a film. I respect this goal.

The amount of disinformation on 9/11 is overwhelming for the basic reason that is MEANT TO BE OVERWHELMING.

This is just another "angle" to pile in with the rest of the angles.

This film doesn't do anything except serve the needs of the perps. It just provides another theory to fight about and insure the movement goes nowhere.

None of what is said in this film can be affirmed. If you honestly think the perps would ignore the Citgo station in their planning you are failing to giver any respect to the people who have pulled off the crime.

40 different cameras at the Pentagon and surrounding business had their footage taken and we have never seen any of it.

Who cares about approach angles?

Really they beat the sh&^ out f themselves cranking out a film that DOES NOT DO ANYTHING to help the truth. They completely left the important information alone and took off on an unprovable fishing expedition.

"Let's blow up the pentagon and leave the Citgo station, which has an excellent view of the hit alone." This is a lousy assumption.

Why don't these guys just state the obvious instead of worrying about piling another lie on top of the mountain of lies that are already out there?

The Hotel had three cameras pointed right at the explosion. How about a peek? Citgo too. National security huh?

The debate is all about preventing the truth and it is WORKING.

Here is your OBVIOUS...that no one on the fully OWNED 9/11 movement will talk about...not one soul..not even national hero and Turkish born patriot Sibel Edmonds...the only hero standing between us and the end of the world thank God for Sibel....ooops...she's a CIA agent...oh well.

Here is the truth.

The effing Pentagon has a missile defense system, it has had one since the 1960's and it can knock down a seagull at about 175 miles.

Ok? Do you really want to spend an hour watching a propaganda film?

Why not just say to yourself "What the F? The effing plane was flying around for over an hour and they were staring at it on ATC radar from Maine to Florida for like ages and ages and the air defense officer at the pentagon is saying to his boss. "You know general? That effing 375 mile per hour passenger jet that has been obviously hijacked and probably wants to drive it's fat 375 mile per hour ass into an important Washington DC freaking building is just like driving around up there....WTF do you wanna do boss? I've been locked on the effing thing for 40 minutes know...shall I splash the bast%$? I mean what if he drives that damn thing into us?That would really suck now wouldn't it?"

Or you are going to suggest to me that the Pentagon was in an effing meeeeeting.....they were busy...ok? They were working on protecting our country...it was a big important meeeeeting...we couldn't answer the phone we were reeeeelly buuuuuseeeee.

The four hundred fighter jets attached to the 25 squadrons in the east coast air defense command were in a meeeeeeting too right? Couldn't answer the phone right?

You are being asked to give a flying F about an effing gas station?

What about the billion dollar missile defense system?

Uh...we wuz we wiring it that morning...uh...We twied to set it off but it didn woik....sowy...ooops...duh missle did'n shoot at da plane....dang it.

Hey, Sibel? Your worked in the FBI translation section as an outside contractor for 6 months.....didn't they show you this stuff so you could save the world? They always show stuff to outside contractors...darn them...silly FBI. "Hey senior section agent? Get this sensitive national security information down to the translation section
right away....give to to one of those outside contractors, but make sure no one else on planet effing Earth sees it....it's a secret for everyone except for the outside contractors in the translation section.." WTF?!.

It's the missile system folks...that is what a whole bunch of military officers have been meeting in secret since 9/11 and are going to help bring it all down. That is NOT a secret. They know there is a defense system and they know it was not used intentionally and it effing OBVIOUS to them that the 9/11 is a hose job and you can put the thermite down and forget the Citgo effing station and just ask the folks in charge what it's going to be like living in prison because the day is not far away.

Unify

I understand your frustration tstorey

But you're wrong on so many levels in this post that it's hard to know where to begin.

This is not "just another "angle" to pile in with the rest of the angles."

This is THE smoking-gun proof that 9/11 was a military black op, not just a "let it happen on purpose" event where the military was stood down (though that did happen too).

"Who cares about approach angles?"

Anyone who cares about the truth and has any familiarity with the attack, because the north side approach PROVES that the plane did not hit the building.

Thirteen eyewitnesses from the five most critical vantage points all independently and definitively place the plane on this flight path.

One eyewitness saw the plane FLYING AWAY SECONDS AFTER THE EXPLOSION.

One witness right across the street from the Pentagon saw the plane "pull up" at the last second.

NO ONE saw the plane hit a light pole.

The cab driver -- whose car was allegedly hit by one of the poles and whose story is blatantly physically impossible -- has had to resort to trying to claim he was ON THE NORTH SIDE even though there was many photos proving exactly where his cab was, and despite the fact that EVEN IF he was on the north side that would also PROVE that the plane didn't hit. Also NO ONE saw a light pole in his cab. NO ONE.

The reason there were so many different "angles" is because everyone was SPECULATING. This is not speculation. This is hard evidence that DEBUNKS the "angles" such as "it was a missile" while proving what really happened. It is independently verified; these are real witnesses on record. It is independently verifiable. Anyone can call them. They can be subpoenaed. They all corroborate each other completely and they are all sure of what they saw, and what they saw proves that the plane did not hit the Pentagon.

It's beyond obvious that you haven't watched the interviews and don't understand the implications of this information. Please do it, and you'll see what I mean.

Thanks

That's why they confiscated all the cameras from all the gas stations, hotels, etc.

"There can be only one permanent revolution - a moral one: The regeneration of the inner man."
—Tolstoy

Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. — John Adams

There can be only one permanent revolution - a moral one: The regeneration of the inner man. — Tolstoy

Yep

Exactly

Real quick

Does this mean we are all in agreement that there WAS in fact a plane?

I'd just like to get cleared up real fast:

Pre planted explosives with a flyover, or missle launched?

How are we explaining the parts of the plane left over at the site? Planted there?

If pre-planted explosives, how are we explaining the impact pattern along with HOW they were planted? Also, what idiot decided instead of running the plane directly into the building, that it was easier to plant lots of explosives and then pretend to hit it and then FLY AWAY hoping no one saw him. Really, what kind of plan is that?

If Missle Launched, how are we explaining all these people who saw a plane.
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Section 2
Oh forget section 2, just read the comments to the article, almost all of my objections about the ludicrosity are being raised. The ability of the "researchers" (Researchers def. adjective, 1. Idiot with a camera, may also carry microphone and have access to badly written questionnaires.) to ask leading questions and misinterpret statements in insane. Never mind the fact that they take SOME testimony from people, but disregard the rest of the accounts from that person. Their witnesses are completely unreliable, and what about the other supposed "100" people they interviewed? Why show only 13 flight paths as opposed to showing them all?

Argh, what a pain, see what I get for promising myself I'd only make 2 or 3 posts today? I get this. Argh.

Where's the Tylenol?

Eric Hoffer

Answers

Does this mean we are all in agreement that there WAS in fact a plane?

Yes, there was a plane that flew at treetop level over Arlington straight at the Pentagon timed perfectly with an explosion. Anyone who doubts that has not studied the attack very closely at all and definitely has not watched the interviews covered in this article.

Pre planted explosives with a flyover, or missle launched?

The former. No one saw a missile. Everyone in a position to tell saw the plane on a flight path that proves that it did not hit the building.

How are we explaining the parts of the plane left over at the site? Planted there?

There were a few relatively small pieces of scraps that appeared to belong to an AA jet on the lawn, but none of them have been positively identified as belonging to AA77. (In addition, AA77 dropped off the radar near the Kentucky/Ohio border roughly 40 minutes before the alleged impact, and the attack jet was never positively identified as AA77.) There are also a conspicuously small amount of other pictures of alleged debris inside the Pentagon, but there is no proof that these pictures were taken inside the Pentagon, and even if they were, then that relatively small amount of debris would have been planted as well, yes.

If pre-planted explosives, how are we explaining the impact pattern along with HOW they were planted?

Impact pattern? The damage was never consistent with a 757 impact. This is why so many people speculated that a missile hit in the first place.

Also, what idiot decided instead of running the plane directly into the building, that it was easier to plant lots of explosives and then pretend to hit it and then FLY AWAY hoping no one saw him.

You'll have to ask the planners, but the evidence conclusively that the plane flew north of the Citgo gas station and therefore did not hit the building. If I were to speculate I would say that it was so that they could assure complete control over the damage and make sure that no top Pentagon brass was taken out.

They didn't just "hope" that no one saw the plane flying away. Besides the fact that the Pentagon is right next to Reagan National Airport and there are large commercial airliners flying extremely low over the area every 2-3 minutes all day every day, they went out of their way to put out proven-fraudulent media reports about a "second plane" that allegedly "shadowed" the attack jet. That way anyone who did see it and did think it was suspicious would just assume that it was the "second plane".

Please watch the videos instead of jumping to erroneous conclusions and you will see the proof of all of this.

If Missle Launched, how are we explaining all these people who saw a plane.

No one saw a missile launched. Everyone saw a plane. There was clearly a plane and no missile. The plane flew over the Navy Annex and NORTH of the former Citgo, nowhere near the light poles and on a flight path that is incompatible with the notion that it hit the building.

Please wach the videos for yourself.

Eric...

You're being duped by a few anonymous, lying commenters.

1) They do not ask leading questions, except that sometimes they try to lead the witnesses TO the official story after the witnesses tell them otherwise.

They'll say something like "Are you sure it didn't fly over there on the south side of the gas station?" And they'll say "Yes". "How sure?" "100% sure. If anyone says that they must not have really seen it."

They get responses like this over and over and over. The witnesses are extremely lucid and 100% confident. Sgt William Lagasse, who was AT THE GAS STATION, said he would bet his life on it.

2) The witnesses are obviously reliable as you will see if you watch the highly detailed interviews. To say otherwise is a blatant lie. He's relying on you taking his word for it and not watching the interviews.

3) They do not "disregard" any part of the rest of the testimony of a witness. Most of the witnesses who saw the plane on the north side of the Citgo gas station and/or over the Navy Annex DID NOT see the plane hit the building. They ASSUMED that the plane hit because they heard a big boom. You must choose whether they are ALL WRONG IN THE SAME WAY in their placement of the plane on this flight path even though they all say they are 100% sure about that, or they are wrong about their ASSUMPTION that the plane hit because they were deliberately fooled. If you watch the interviews you'll see that it's obviously the latter.

4) In responses to this: "what about the other supposed "100" people they interviewed? Why show only 13 flight paths as opposed to showing them all?"

They only show 13 flight paths because ONLY THIRTEEN OF THE WITNESSES WERE IN A POSITION TO TELL WHERE THE PLANE FLEW IN RELATION TO CITGO AND THE NAVY ANNEX. The other many dozens of people they interviewed were not. They have published many of these interviews as well. Please go to their site and watch them.

No we are not

in agreement that a 757 hit the pentagon. Where in the photo evidence does it show the 2 holes for the engines?
A simple question.
The relatively soft nose of the jet penetrates 6 reinforced walls (bunker like) of the pentagon, yet the relatively hard engines don't even penetrate one!!!

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Good article. I've spoken

Good article. I've spoken with Craig Ranke and he is an honest and intelligent investigator.

They have proven beyond a reasonable doubt that the true flight path of the plane that hit the Pentagon is different than what the 9/11 Commission says.

The report by the Pentagon police department has the correct flight path as well.

Never believe anything the US military says if the information is controversial.

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Interesting

Thank you

LOL..

How come the pole didn't hurt the hood of the car.. LOL..

Oh wait cause the pole didnt fall on the car it was staged.

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Will plan to watch later

Thank you for posting.

You're welcome

There is lots and lots of footage, but It's well worth the time it takes to watch the videos. If you're only going to watch a couple I recommend watching "The Pentacon Smoking Gun Version" first, and then The North Side Flyover. The other ones are very important/daming too though, and some are quite short (10 min or so).

And the "official story"

continues to crumble.