
Devvy Kidd - Lots of Tea Parties - and Then?
Submitted by txbluebonnet on Mon, 04/13/2009 - 16:11
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http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd439.htm
Devvy Kidd has a great article how they are using the tea parties to herd us in another dead-end direction...great article!! We need to be going to these parties with our eyes wide open.















If you want to do nothing...
Just stay home.
If you want to reach millions of people that are gathering in 3,000 places in the USA on Weds, then go!
This many people doesn't tell me it's a 'fringe' movement like that idiot Maddow claims.
Yes people know something is wrong and are HAPPY to be schooled on such issues as the Fed Reserve and the rest of the cabal of bankers, what happened at the G20.
Right now Beck is discussing the fact that DHS is trying to paint people as extremists, racists, etc...and he's not buying it. He's trashing the Fed as I type this...and decrying the fact that we are being accused of promulgating 'conspiracy theories'. He reminded that it was the left saying they would tear up the country if Obama did not win. And weren't some in Congress told there would be martial law if they did not vote for TARP?
I know almost every person coming to my tea party and I have never known any one of them to be violent, racist, or extremist.
If you want to end the Fed, it's your right. If you are schooling people in the idea that the Fed is private, just go hear it from Alan Greenspan himself.
Whew... what ignorance.
Eventually......
...our movement has to go mainstream in order to succeed. Roll with it. If the tea parties are a scam you are back where you were before they existed.
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she is great
HiJackeD but there's oppurtunity
Look, we are getting people out and active about the current situation. If there's other organizations that want to limit or control our efforts let them try but don't let them succeed. I'm taking this opportunity to grab some people who are upset but don't really know at who. I will show them a movement led by Ron Paul and expose the truth.Hopefully they will listen and see that they are others who share there views. While Devvy kid says " and then What" i reply with " i just got 2 or 3 to join the cause, Thats what."
Absolutely!
(sure wish DP had those arrow or Thumbs up thingys :-)
Devvy is Spot On!
Devvy is not saying to ignore the tea parties, but to use them wisely, as an action plan and not for just politics as usual, and try not to get caught up in the hype which the GOP is dishing out these days.
In a county in Washington State the local GOP party issued not only notices about the tea party, encouraging all to come, etc., but sent out advisories that it was to be non-partisan, not to get too involved and mention ANYBODY'S name (IE: Ron Paul), and that the GOP of all people would be monitoring the signs for their approval!!
Think of it... they state first it is non-partisan, and then, that they want to monitor your signs! This is absurd... Lastly they state that the rally is to be non-political!! Here we go again... don't rock the boat. This is patently un-grassroots, and the GOP still has not learned the difference... or they well remember and are still opposing.
Devvy is right on target. One of the reasons the GOP has jumped into the Tea party business is to conscript the precious money and time so needed by the true RP constitutionalists, distracting them from the greater issues so critical to our next battle! That battle is finding and creating good candidates for office, and running them to throw the rest out of office.
Only by this means, forces available focused upon that task and the grassroots actions necessary to that end, will we be closer to saving the day and nation for future generations to live in liberty.
I do not see this focus in these Tea Party actions so far... when the old school GOP is pleased and content, then I am suspicious, bells go off in my head. I am looking behind the back of liberty to see who is stabbing her. So is determined my next move! That there is such an intention currently in the GOP is without dispute, considering the recent election cycle so painted by their criminal and deceitful actions to oppose the only liberty candidate in 100 years!
"Suspicion is a Virtue, if in the interests of the good of the people." Patrick Henry
"We are not weak if we make a proper use of those means which the God of Nature has placed in our power... the battle, sir, is not to the strong alone - it is to the brave..."
"Suspicion is a Virtue, if in the interests of the good of the people." Patrick Henry
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"The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government -- lest it come to dominate our lives and interests."
-- Patrick Henry
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Most people...
Most people know what they are AGAINST, but do not know what they are FOR.
Get out and acknowledge their anger. Teach them how "funny fed money" is unacceptable and hurtful for most of us.
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we gotta use the tea parties
we gotta use the tea parties network! Get the message out. This is an opportunity like never before.
I agree
I am going to hand out fliers trying to wake up the masses. We REALLY need to make sure we direct people to the real problem: the Federal Reserve.
eh I dont buy it...
I could easily just say that the Devvy Kidd article is a secret plan by the elite media to keep us all home.
I think the article is poor for just that. It doesn’t offer any alternative and is basically encouraging nothing other than staying home.
It tries to make us so paranoid we give up.
I'll be at my tea party because I go in support of the message. It will take a lot more stuff like this no matter who the messenger is for people to realize this is important.
The Root Cause
I agree with you.
If you are not specifically talking about ending the Fed and why, you are spinning your wheels and wasting your time and energy.
The Federal Reserve is the problem the whole problem and nothing but the problem.
What congress does not want to own up to is that Congress ordered your bank and thousands of others to make these toxic loans or be put out of business by the FDIC. Yes you read that correctly. They were ordered to make bad loans or have their FDIC insurance revoked. Without FDIC coverage the law says they have to close.
The banks through the fed and through bribes, direct and indirect, own the government, lock stock and barrel.
Where are the Grand Juries and the Prosecutors? It is time to hack at the roots.
Watch the following videos and you will understand:
The Root Cause of the Financial Crisis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQ4JXW_ErXQ&feature=related
Inflation and the Dollar's Crash
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLYLb9Vm4xU&feature=related
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Tom Rankin
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Live in Liberty
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Our audience is the other party goers
Those people have 2 BIG things going for them:
1. They know something is wrong.
2. They got off their butt to do something about it.
Meet them where they are awake. If they complain about taxes, turn them on to the Jekyll Island story.
If they complain about the bailouts, turn them on to HR1207 to audit the agency doing them.
You all are friggin' experts. You are too good to waste your time waving signs at the sheeple. You need to target the people waving signs.
TAKE whatever handouts you are given, and if it says "SOCIALISM NOW" then talk about how much you resent the FACISM we are experiencing. You will get lemons, MAKE LEMONADE.
THE CONSTITUTION CAN NOT DEFEND ITSELF.
It's up to you, rise to the occasion, friends!
I do agree with much of what
I do agree with much of what she says. However, we must use the tea parties to impart information to the corralled people looking for answers. I'm confident they can't lead us astray. We must reach out to the others who haven't discovered the truth yet.
PaulKrugman critical of TeaParty phenom.in oped today BostonGlob
I think Ron Paul and his supporters, of which I am one, ought to rethink their opposition to evolution and the quaint notion that every word in the Bible is God's word and true, not to mention the ridiculous contention that the universe is 6000 years old.
I think that the mere fact that the scientists are able to land men on the moon and bring them back bespeaks an understanding of the nature of matter and energy, mathematics and calculus, motion and trajectories, orbits and inclinations, atoms and molecules, chemistry and physics, physiology and medicine, and much more in order to accomplish that and so many other tasks in our industrial age, we ought to heed their opinion on matters where rational evidence trumps childish wishful thinking and a willingness to accept ideas as being true for which there is no such rational evidence, that is the over touted and over rated concept of Faith.
Ron Paul is correct on so many things, regarding the Constitution and sound money, but his, and his followers, assertion of disbelief in evolution, in this day and age, is a profound turn off to men and women and young adults, who value reason, rationality, science and require evidence for their beliefs.
Not to mention that no one wants to live in a Theocracy, unless you hope to be the one in charge who will implement your own beliefs and not allow anyone else to have theirs and remain alive. It has happened time and time again throughout history, including the history of Christianity, e.g. the Inquisition.
Wm
"I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine" Ayn Rand in Atlas Shrugged p731
"I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine" Ayn Rand in Atlas Shrugged p731
Your post is unclear. Is that your opinion,
or Krugman's? RP doesn't say much about his own theological views, since they aren't relevant to his work as a statesman who works for constituents of all persuasions, and for individual liberty.
I don't know where you/Krugman get you inside info. on his views about evolution, but whatever they are, they're totally irrelevant here. Many Christians accept evolution, just as many of us RP supporters are atheists.
Evolution is religion with a bang!
To believe in evolution in this day of enlightenment, when every sound practical science shows it to be absurd on it's face, a superstitious faith driven opposition to historical religion, is a belief in just that: the most absurd religion ever to exist... belief in something no one can or will ever prove, with not a shred of observational and testable earth science to support even the slightest theory, and essentially leaving all supposition to a very religious type faith... the ultimate comic book in ideas, and the ultimate hypocrisy in practice! Something that started as a joke has in the return of the days of superstition, become a full fledged religion, couched in postulates!
But then as Lenin and Stalin said, 'repeat it often enough...' especially to the young, and they will believe in the Federal Reserve, Bush, Obama, and free money, by faith also!
"Suspicion is a Virtue, if in the interests of the good of the people." Patrick Henry
"We are not weak if we make a proper use of those means which the God of Nature has placed in our power... the battle, sir, is not to the strong alone - it is to the brave..."
"Suspicion is a Virtue, if in the interests of the good of the people." Patrick Henry
This is a red herring arguement - way off topic
No one said anything about a theocray and most freedom loving Christans/Diests would oppose a theocracy. Also the amount of people that were killed during the crusades/inquisition are a small fraction compared to the 20th century athiest regimes of Stalin, Hitler, Mao and PolPot. All of the above regimes had the "consent" of brilliant scientists and they butchered millions..
The bottom line is that the solution that is offered for the "history of Christianity" is far worse and reduces the value of life substantially.
Tea anyone?
It can't be...can it?
It can't be...can it?
I agree... why people think
I agree... why people think that Baldwin or Paul would have a "theocracy' is just plain and stupid ignorance on the part of the those who claim such BS. Those who claim this are also very ignorant when it comes to our founding fathers, and the bible. Where God is there is great liberty.. why can't people see this? the reason why is because it demands responcibility that many here on the daily paul are not willing to undertake,
so they badmouth Christians. What they do not understand is that when you have righteous leaders the nation is blessed. wether you are a believer or not. Ron Paul would not impose his religuos veiws on anyone. Same with Baldwin. But when he would have to make a decision in the scope of his Job, I gaurantee that Gods veiw or the Bilbles view would used as a guide for him to make a decision.. Some how some people here think that Ron Paul would not consult the Allmighty for wisdom in making tough choices.. those people are wrong.
"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson
I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain
"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson
I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain
Some people
just have this major "religion hate" thing going on.
Galtgultch gets into this kind of a tizzy regularly on here.
I try to ignore it, just in case anything that makes sense might slip into his posts.
The Federal Reserve itself is religious insanity..
And I agree with aethiests, too much religion is a bad thing.
So why do we have a Federal Reserve to begin with...Ask them that.
We agree on pretty much everything else. And Ron Paul, or any of us strong holders of freedom, if we are christain that doesn't alter our value for liberty. We have no motive to force any of our beliefs on others, after all that was why the first libertarian also said let the states decide.
Aethiests or christain alike value having their personal freedom.
Tea in China
Seriously, what on earth does this have to do with the issues being addressed in the Tea Party or the efforts to audit the Federal Reserve? Why bring up the issue of evolution/creation and theology at this point? Does what someone believes on these issues have any bearing on the validity of the arguments against the Federal Reserve, wanton government spending, or the issue of sound money?
This sounds like a very clumsy attempt at diversion.
I'm a RP supporter and wholly believe in evolution
That never stopped me from supporting him whole heartedly. His beliefs do not weigh into his work at the federal level, so why should it bother me? Also, I'm pro-choice but then again, that should be decided at the local levels where your voice can be heard.
Beck is a 50 million dollar fraud
just like everyone on fox. Everything out of their mouths is 1005% scripted.
Judge Napolitano
Judge Andrew Napolitano is legit.
Yes he is.....but this article is 2 years old.
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The Devvy Kidd article is 2 years old?
Where do you see that? Looks to me as though the date is today, April 13, 2009.
The Marketwatch article is from 2007....not the Devvy article.
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Get to the point.
I sure do wish she'd get to the point rather than all of those tangential arguments. I'm surprised there's no talk about Area 51.
Huh?
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I agree with RS
It would be good to have a synopsis paragraph focusing on the subject of "Tea Parties and ... THEN what?" (Doesn't have to be a "sound bite" but unless you are well informed it would be a difficult article to get through.)
However, there does seem to be twists and shifts of political stances, and it is good to be aware of them.
Ron Paul is going.
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics/AP/story/997480.html
RP is welcome obviously but the Gov of Texas is grandstanding.
Yes, he'll be in Seabrook, TX tomorrow.
This is the tea party for the NASA / Clearlake area.
http://www.clearlaketeaparty.com/
I'm going to have to go but one thing is concerning. The speakers are as follows:
Galveston County Tax Collector Cheryl Johnson;
Former Galveston County Tax Collector / Assessor Paul Bettencourt;
2008 Presidential candidate, Congressman, Ron Paul
I'm a delegate for my area and I was at the TX State Convention and had the pleasure of meeting Cheryl Johnson. While she is a very nice person, she was definitely part of the people that shunned Ron Paul and called him and his ilk, traitors. We're talking part and parcel with Chris Pedan, who was attempting to take his House seat.
I just find this a strange place to be in. These are folks who threw us away and got in our way and now they are taking up the same (or partial) goals we have? I find this a little disingenuous. Any advice?
Hold your fire and get them
Hold your fire and get them on board with HR 1207. These tea parties weren't supposed to have politicians. I would turn my back and not clap and hold up your end the fed sign.
Thanks Duff
I'll try and do that. I haven't made a sign tho. I'll most likely have my 3 yr old on my shoulders. :)
I had no problem linking to the article.
This was a good article. I am unsure about the Tea Party with how much Glenn Beck is promoting it and Faux News. Still undecided about going.
Fliers
I am going so I can hand out fliers trying to wake up the people.
Your URL is dead
Your URL is dead
I may not be doing this
I may not be doing this right..first time. Go into google, copy and past so you can get into article...too good to miss.
Just attended the Texas Campaign for Liberty Banquet in Austin. You would not believe the crowd!!!! Stateman Ron Paul was "great", as always!!
I am new on this site but have been following Daily Paul for over a year.
Try this one...
http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd439.htm
Excellent post
I have felt that they are trying to lead us, it must be frustrating for them.
I agree
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