HR20-New Mother's Mandated Mental Health Test-JUST PASSED HOUSE!
A sweeping government policy for all new births in the United States has just passed the House of Representatives and is now headed to the Senate. The Mother's Act, if passed, will mandate that all new mothers be screened by means of a list of subjective questions that will determine if each mother is mentally fit to take their newborn home from the hospital. Just imagine that after your child is born, you are told that you can't take them home since a multiple choice questionnaire wasn't answered correctly. Just imagine being told that the only way you can take your child home is if you or your spouse goes into treatment or on anti-depressants which we know causes psychosis, delusions, and even homocidal thoughts. It just doesn't make sense. Unfortunately, this bill is on a fast track--No public debate, no public disclosure of the broad impact on our society and that is why we need you to act now!
The Mother's Act violates our Constitutional right to privacy and your right to liberty and it is just outright dangerous. That is why we need you to help stop this. We urgently need you to call and email each Senator on the HELP Committee and tell them you STRONGLY OPPOSE the MOTHER'S ACT and that you are OUTRAGED that there was NO public debate or disclosure on the impact this would have on our society as a whole.
Send a letter by going here: http://salsa.democracyina...
Please call the following Senators on the HELP Committee and tell them that you want the Mother's Act to die in committee.
Lisa Murkowski, R: 202-224-6665, AK
John McCain, R: 202-224-2235, AZ
Christopher Dodd, D: 202-224-2823, CT
Johnny Isakson, R: 202-224-3643, GA
Tom Harkin, D: 202-224-3254, IA
Pat Roberts, R: 202-224-4774, KS
Edward Kennedy D: 202-224-4543, MA
Barbara Mikulski D: 202-224-4654, MD
Richard Burr, R: 202-224-3154, NC
Kay Hagan, D: 202-224-6342, NC
Judd Gregg, R: 202-224-3324, NH
Jeff Bingaman, D: 202-224-5521, NM
Sherrod Brown, D 202-224-2315, OH
Tom Coburn, R 202-224-5754, OK
Jeff Merkley, D 202-224-3753, OR
Bob Casey, D 202-224-6324, PA
Jack Reed, D 202-224-4642, RI
Lamar Alexander R 202-224-4944, TN
Orrin Hatch R 202-224-5251, UT
Bernard Sanders, I: 202-224-5141, VT
Patty Murray, D, 202-224-2621, WA
Michael Enzi, R, 202-224-3424, WY
Thank you so much for caring enough to call and take action! Remember "We The People" are in charge!
Respectfully,
Sheila Matthews
Cofounder www.ablechild.org














I like that
Though, brain fitness software from companies such as Cognifit (go check the link) will be useful for Mental Health, Brain (psychological or neurological - both can be used).
Taking a child home only over only in circumstance of treatment is still kind of cruel.
Any one got any more info at the government policy? (not in govtrack - I wish to get something more official)
Laws make crime impossible
Good thing this MMH bill is there for people like Otty Sanchez. Or, rather, her 3-week old baby. Sure saved him from a life of pain & suffering at the hands of a mentally ill parent.
http://www.cbsnews.com/bl...
Scary stuff
Right after birth, a woman is incredibly susceptible to manipulation due to the effects of oxytocin on the brain.
Combine this with government agencies getting federal money for every adoption and how much easier it is to place newborns for adoption - scary stuff.
I wouldn't be surprised if someone out there learned how to get commissions on getting new mothers to say what ever will get the most federal money flowing.
Wow! It will F up adoptions!
Yeah, Wow! I'm a birth mom and they do shove those papers at us to sign as soon as possible! They are supposed to wait ti,,, no drugs in system (but not even close) These girls are young too, teenagers are still in shock after a birth, why would they do this! Birth Moms need to be able to make a decision sober!!!
"Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms" Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul
not mandatory
Fortune Favors the Bold
http://ecochildsplay.com/...
read the bill and learn from history
The bill calls this monitoring a national longitudinal study. You know what else was framed in similar terms?
Carbon taxes-section 116 of the bush bailout bill
Internet and phone tapping-the FIMA bill (okaying warrantless wiretapping)
Income Taxes-originally capped at 1% and we all know where that's gotten us.
Come on people are you really going to let the government question newborn mothers so they can drug them and take away their babies? Are we really going to debate on this bill when they're already so egregiously overstepping their bounds?
When are you all going to wake up and learn to recognize a pattern and interpret history?
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Government can't competently handle ...
its Constitutional responsibilities, so it takes on yet one more unconstitutional one.
i hear my local cops
i hear my local cops complaining all the time about how our idiot government blows money on stupid shit yet can't even fix the damn roads.
roads, cops, courts. that's it! that's all you have to fscking do! not food stamps, not schip, not labor laws, not outer space (even though that's where you came from), just fix the roads and get the cops some decent goddamn guns!
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Who are you and how can you post without being verified?
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parenting is under constant threat
this is social engeneeering at it's worse. Big pharma will reap the profits as the road to true full blown communism emerges. This legislation coupled with the UN's CRC (Council on the Rights of the Child) will be a population control on steroids. Really now, who in their right mind would want to have a "family" and subject themselves to this type of controls ?
The powers that be are the parents of your child so why bother having any?
Who can you trust ?
Who is going to test the tester, the tester ,the tester ,the tester..How far can we go ?
you-no
insanity is a great way to
insanity is a great way to take away someone's rights for good without due process. last i heard, being adjudicated insane doesn't require a jury trial.
and i'm not even going to touch western society's hysterical fears of even the slightest signs of mental illness.
yep.
another scam foisted on us by those who 'care'. this crap ain't medicine, it's quackery!
check into Thomas Szasz for a more rational look, here: http://www.szasz.com/
easiest thing to do is jump
easiest thing to do is jump a border. get on the plane, fly to mexico.. hey guess what? mister judgy no longer has jurisdiction over your sanity!
BUAJAJAJAJAJA!!!!!!!!!
My aunt had some problems so
My aunt had some problems so she went to a drug rehab center in Oregon so that she wouldn't be able to see her kids while she feels sick. Is there a chance that she won't be able to see her kids when she comes back if she's still medicated? Besides the drug abuse, she also was taking anti-depressants before her admission.
there's always a chance
there's always a chance because it could be used against her if it winds up in a family court.
there's no depths to which the state won't sink when they're out to get someone, and anything that questions a person's sanity is a huge bull's eye.
Sen. Olympia Snowe [R-ME]
This Neo Con has to go. She is siding with the liberal Democrats on everything. Ms. Snowe is a co-sponsor. She is showing her true colors. Time to rid the Republican Party of this socialist.
Ron Paul for POTUS 2012
*****Obama Is A Communist!*****
Snowe
Snowe is not a neo-con, she is a statist-globalist. She has bought the CFR one-worlder mentality hook, line and sinker. Google the "CFR membership list" and scroll down to the S's to see how it came about. You will see that the answer is "she joined them." Years ago. Says so right in their annual report from which these membership lists are drawn that she is a member of the CFR. Watch her vote on the "LOST" treaty.
Paul.
That's why it's very important...
to birth your children at home with a midwife, (providing there are no troublesome findings on early ultrasounds). Also never, ever under any circumstances should you obtain social security numbers for your children.
don't sign the birth certificate and they have no jurisdiction
That is the only way I can see to get around that horrible bill. It ALL starts with the birth certificate. Don't sign it and YOU remain the ward of the child... NOT the state. Legally, they will ave NO jurisdiction. Not 100% sure about that... but it is worth a try.. There will be a percentage of mothers that WILL NOT leave the hospital with THEIR child because of those questions and the time they were answered. Factor this bill in with the SUICIDAL anti-depressent drugs they will talk MANY MANY mothers into taking before they give birth and that number WILL soar... This will send those children into the hands of SO CALLED foster homes that will grow to colonies of their own. This will decimate the family structure that has already been taken some serious blows over the years. Some or many of these children will then be subjected to rape, sodomy, experiments, mind control and so on. That can not be dismissed easily because of the obvious track record of the state and the corrupt child care agencies.
Now I ask you... NOT signing the birth certificate sounds a lot better now doesn't it?
Does my burka make my butt look fatwa?
Its not the birth
Its not the birth certificate which subjects the mother and the child to this perversion, its the third parent who you invited into your polygamous marriage with the state. You surrendered your control over the child before it was born. Additionally by claiming the privileged status of statutory U.S. citizen, you have agreed to subject yourself to all of the corporate rules, even those rules which are not written down. Look up whether or not governmental employees and officers are bound only by the regulations published in the federal register, or if they are subject to non-published regulations as well. I think you will be surprised. Investigate if a statutory U.S. citizen is a federal office, if a resident, person, or taxpayer are holders of government office (even if they are uncompensated). I think you will be surprised. Investigate who may apply for and receive a marriage license, is it for residents? Unless you understand the law and assert your sovereignty you are presumed to be a government employee subject to all of these depredations against your dignity and liberty. Because of our ignorance, many of us have fallen into the license and tax pitfall which the corporate entities masquerading as government have laid. To wake up visit:
famguardian.org
sedm.org
republic
Eugenics
Eugenics is "the study of, or belief in, the possibility of improving the qualities of the human species or a human population by such means as discouraging reproduction by persons having genetic defects or presumed to have inheritable undesirable traits (negative eugenics) or encouraging reproduction by persons presumed to have inheritable desirable traits (positive eugenics)."[2] As a social movement eugenics reached its height of popularity in the early decades of the 20th century. By the end of World War II eugenics had been largely abandoned,[3] though current trends in genetics have raised questions amongst critical academics concerning parallels between pre-war attitudes about eugenics and current "utilitarian" and social darwinistic theories[4]. At its pre-war zenith, the movement often pursued pseudoscientific notions of racial supremacy and purity.[5]
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HR20-The Mother Act
I have read the bill. The problem is this-just how do they "research" such depressions? They would have to do a questionnaire and follow up, etc. Do you really think they will stop there? If the questionnaire reveals-in their opinion-an issue, what will they do? It is not a LEAP to figure they will not allow the baby to go home until such time as "they" decide-if ever-that Mom and/or Dad pass "their test or research". Very slippery slope stuff here.
Couple this with the UN Convention of the Child TREATY, folks-we cannot be too careful of this Mother's Act bill. Treatys (such as this UN one) supercede Fed, state and local gov't. No way around and the UN will tell you how to raise your kids. Can you add 2+2?
Blessed are the flexible, for they will not be bent out of shape!
Fedup-inCO
Here is the link
to the text that's quoted above:
http://inpursuitofhappine...
This interpretation is at odds with the text of the actual bill.
You're right
The text of the bill says nothing about questionaires or prohibiting babies from going home with their mothers.
Careful, folks. This bill might be another boondoggle, but it is not the second coming of the Nazis.
What the hell is going on in this world ?
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...all they need is one generation...
...just one generation...this is the beginning of total state control of our children and by default the entire human race that will follow...The answer to 1984 is 1776
Oh....we're back to this one again.
Geez, I thought this was debunked weeks ago?
this is easily dealt with;
this is easily dealt with; don't get married until you're 40 and rich, and then find yourself an 18 year old brazilian virgin, and move there!
someone needs to tell washington that for only 5% of the world, they're not very competitive. it's like if apple decided to charge ten times as much (as opposed to twice as much) for their computers, preloaded them with vista and then demanded you return them every six months with no refund.
Have you read the bill?
It's in committee, not in the House. Also, there is no directions for mandated mental health screening in the hospital in the bill. Read the bill. Yes, it is a stupid bill and a waste of taxpayer's money (what else is new) but so far, it is not as threatening as all this.
Don't post something that isn't truly verified. We have so many things that really are right now. It's good to be aware of this frivolous bill that could lead to other things but it isn't relevant right now.
Healthnut4freedom
"Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct thy paths." Proverbs 3:5,6
No, Runforron hasn't read the bill
and will never read the bill. I argued with him or her extensively below.
I'm so glad someone else speaks for me
I have read the bill multiple times and understand what the bill means. Why don't you grow a brain and comment on what you can prove?
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What exactly does the bill
What exactly does the bill do?
I disagree
It's passed the house. Here's the link: http://olpa.od.nih.gov/tr...
You're wrong about the bills requirements, it mandates a census (their words: epidemiological study, national longitudinal study) of mother's on a federal basis (it's a federal bill). So, yes, new mother's will need to fill out a mental health form before they get their baby.
I suggest you improve your reading comprehension skills before disregarding warnings.
Keep on believing what they're selling if you want at your own peril.
The post also isn't my words, it was transcribed from a letter I got online. There's alot more of the same warnings I've shown Ingrid2 from different people. I don't know if you'll do the work to find the other links, but if anyone can it's on this thread.
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I wish someone had given
I wish someone had given this test to MY Mother and required her to get psychiatric care before being allowed to go home with me! :(
I am on antidepressants. They do NOT cause "psychosis, delusions, and even homicidal thoughts." Understand the "church" of Scientology puts out this kind of garbage. They also believe human souls were made by aliens. Do you believe them about that too?
Studies show the countries that use antidepressants have fewer suicides than the countries that don't. When first starting antidepressants often energy is increased before judgment and mood improves. During that danger period acts of suicide and violence can increase slightly and Patients should be watched and guided carefully. But even during this danger period fewer People with severe depression commit suicide while on them, then do who are not on them.
I don't feel chemically strait jacketed. I feel peaceful. They help me sleep and keep me from having 24/7 migraines. They let me enjoy life the way God wants us too. They are a Godsend. There are 23 different methods of healing used or advocated by Jesus in the New Testament and yes antidepressants are one of them. One of the gifts the Wiseman brought Jesus, frankincense is actually an antidepressant. We should listen to the Bible not a cult that thinks our souls came from ET's.
http://www.sciencedaily.c...
You do not want to know how I grew up due to my Mother not receiving the medical care she desperately needed and desired. She didn't deserve to live like she did due to darkness and superstition that should have cleared up decades earlier. Don't spread more trash around. It harms people by keeping them from getting easy, painless, effective help!
I didn't have a Mother until my Father died and wasn't around to "protect" the body in the bed that was all that was my Mother before medication and I could finally get her help. Unfortunately by then I was grown and she was in her 80's. Due to lack of serotonin caused by a strep throat infection she had hoarding OCD, and severe clinical depression all the years of my childhood. She hoarded spoiled and ROTTING food, composting newspapers, old food containers, used Kleenex, rotting paper towels that had been peeing on by the cats. The refrigerator could not be packed with one more piece of rotting food so the garage was also starting to fill up. The house had mold and mildew thousands of cockroaches and even rats. it was not a fit place to live. But on the other hand her OCD made her afraid to even touch me. If I tried to climb on her lap she would push me off. If I tried to get a hug she would shove me away. She would read to me but she would sit in a chair and I had to sit on my bed or in another chair. Once I touched her arm and her skin crawled. She was that repulsed by me due to her brain not functioning properly.
If I tried to clean up she would go in to a temper tantrum/panic attack and I would be in trouble for "upsetting your Mother." I had asthma, sinus problems and sleep apnea plus migraines when sleep deprived. I often had them 24/7. I desperately needed a clean house but when I asked my Mother why she would not clean up she said, "Because I love the trash and the garbage more than I love you." They know now if an allergic donor donates bone marrow the recipient of that bone marrow will develop the exact same allergies once his or her new immune system kicks in. But back then thanks to that Atheist Freud allergies were supposed to be all in one's head. I got threatened with confinement in a mental hospital if I complained about the mess so I didn't dare seek help. My few brushes with the mental health world were disasters due to my Aspergers' syndrome. No one would believe me about anything. Counseling consisted of scolding for not being a Neurotypical and disbelief when I told the couplers I didn't feel good. I've had enough psychobabble to fill the garbage dumpster it all belongs in. Jesus not Freud had it right, "the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak." Jesus will live forever and Freud is dead and burning in the Hell he deserves. The man was an Atheist, a cocaine user, a cocaine pusher, an adulterer who caused his sister in law to go get an abortion, and he was so morally weak he couldn't give up smoking even though it killed him. After he died he was found to have several different kinds of venereal disease. And this is the man whose philosophy we think is better than medication and faith?
All my Mother wanted to do during much of my childhood was sit in the dark, thinking the neighbors were whispering about her and work crossword puzzles.
After my father died and I was able to get her to a geriatric Psychiatrist he put her on a mild dose of an antidepressant called Zolof. A miracle occurred. She woke up and warmed up. Judy and I were able to clean up finally. It took two years and thousands of dollars to get the house back to livable condition. We threw away over 18 huge trash bags of trash, spoiled and rotting food from the kitchen area lone and the garage was also full. Even more important she actually gave me a hug one day, one of only two she ever gave me in my life. She felt up to doing things and going places. It is so sad she could have had help decades sooner because the first antidepressant went on the market the year I was born. She didn't have to suffer the way she did. She could have had a life and I could have had a Mother.
But this is presumption of guilt...
I am very sorry for what happened to you but I don't want a world where everyone is tested because of a few. The Government does not do things to help us, it is all a power grab. No guns because someone might get killed. Everyone should take meds in case we are all crazy, heck next the water can be drugged. Maybe if you have the wrong opinions you will be called a terrorist and not be able to keep your kids. Look now how everyone has to pee in a cup because they might have smoked a joint last month? IRS - You gotta prove to us you don't deserve to pay all your money and WE decide what is a business expense! Guilty until proven innocent. NO NO NO MAKE IT STOP!!
Very sad to say and depending on where you were born, if your mother had been treated it may have been a lobotomy or electric shock treatment. I am not saying that to be mean, that is how a lot of mentally ill people were treated for psychiatric problems in the past and the point is that the Government must not the decider because they are usually wrong. Have you take a good look at the people running our country? They should decide who is sane? NO NO Don't let meds rob you of a healthy sense of paranoia.
Nothing scares me worse than people who think more Government power grabbing will be better for us. Our job is to keep them out of our lives as much as possible.
I'm sorry...
but if you really read your post, you are in fact a poster child for banning these drugs. And modern psychology.
Christ wept.
Why do you say that? I read
Why do you say that? I read the entire post and didn't come to the same conclusion. What did I miss?
Battle Royale
This is a critical battle or we will end up with an entire generation being killed by the careless and irresponsible actions of the psycho/pharmaceutical industry. PLEASE take the time to read the act and LEARN FOR YOURSELF how dangerous and insidious this act is. The ironic part is that it is named after a woman who was killed by psychotropic drugging. Her psycho doctor deserves to be brought up on charges.
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Notice how the predominant vote was democrats...hmmmmm, guess they would love it if they can drug an entire generation into a stupor. If they do, no one will be aware enough to fight back for liberty and individual responsibility.
To those who would allow this bill to pass...
..complacency is all that is needed to sentence us all into complete submission.
YOU STILL HAVEN'T FIXED THIS??!!!
You are INTENTIONALLY trying to mislead people just to get some attention.
RUNFORRON: READ. THE. BILL.
I read the bill
I'm sorry, but the senators you call can downplay this bill all they want, but it still calls for those wonderful government "studies" and government "funds", etc., which only lead to more government control.
This is, ONCE AGAIN, the U.S. Government meddling. No one can know better than the doctor and the nurses working with the mothers what is going on. It is ridiculous to think that millions of dollars from Washington, directed to the "Secretary" for conducting a "study" on post-partum depression is anything but a WASTE OF MONEY THAT THE GOVERNMENT DOESN'T HAVE!
We all know the next step. The Government is inept at handling anything. Just take a look at CPS. They do a GREAT job.../sarc.
You agree with everything Runforron is saying, then?
My point is not, and has never been, that this is a good bill.
Nothing to be sorry about.
Buck v. Bell 1927 (State of Virginia)
HARE.......HUNTER......FIELD! (from the movie JUDGMENT AT NUREMBERG). Sounds very reminicent of the Nazi sterilization laws. You need to go to Wikipedia and read about the case concerning Carrie Buck. We had this problem before......EVEN BEFORE THE NAZIS!
After reading Sec. 102 paragragh (a) of the bill, the government is giving the NIMH powers it should not have. No bill, act, or law like this should ever exist! As someone commented before, this opens the door for the Federal government to take custody of children, especially newborns.
The Racial Integrity Act of 1924
You know...
I was wondering why the Octo-mom got so much publicity.
Now I know... setting up public sentiment.
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HR 20
I predict that due to the provision that says they are going to provide essential services to mothers and their families, the diagnosis of post partum depression is going to be on the rise. We'll be paying for child care, food, transportation to and from the doctor...oh wait, aren't we already doing that?
WTF???
Amazing, not even in Socialist Sweden we have this 0_0!
It happens so much right now it is hard to follow everything, amazing speed.
You will not have any rights left at the end of this year if this continues...
Uneducated citizens
This story is going around the email chain as the new biggest threat against mothers. The worst thing in this country is a bunch of people who don't even bother reading the bill and finding out what it is really about. This is not just for this particular issue but for all the chain emails that go around. The first thing anyone should do is research the issue and then make an educated comment. The author of this atricle, Sheila Matthews, uses scare tactics to get what she wants which doesn't help her issue one bit. This doesn't mean I agree with the bill but PLEASE do your research before calling your senator for this and all issues.
THANK YOU!!!
Very much. I agree with you completely.
I actually called many senators complaining about these mandatory tests and screening BEFORE I read the bill. I was very embarrassed when I read the bill and realized I had been misled.
I hope everyone READS this bill- we get NOWHERE when we are stupidly repeating hype.
WE got an 18 minute forum user and a 1 week user
telling everyone on the daily paul how to think. Who do you think is going to agree with you?
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