The “End the Fed” Protests are the (Secret) Road to World Government
Submitted by xntryk1 on Thu, 04/16/2009 - 11:53
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April 16, 2009
The “End the Fed” Protests are the (Secret) Road to World Government
Jeffrey Grupp
Two recent Infowars.com articles (my article and the JustGetUsThere article) in the past few days have discussed how the mass media is hijacking the patriot and Truth movements by (1) attempting to take over the debates about the issues that the patriot groups have been discussing for decades by suddenly, all-at-once blasting them into the mass media in a twisted, vacuous, and manipulated way, and (2) by taking over the anti-Fed “revolution,” also by spotlighting it vacuously in the corporatist mass media. But we know that if the New World Order wants to hijack the patriot and Truth movements, they won’t just do it from these angles, and instead they (A) will attack it from many angles, and more importantly, they (B) will use their attack to, additionally, set up their Brave New World. This article is about (B), and what I want to suggest is that the New World Order is deliberately false-flag-attacking the Fed in order to ultimately destroy it, leaving the perception of a void in the financial world, wherein they will fill that void with THEIR choice of a new banking and money system: global currency, global bank, global governance/government. More specifically, here’s what I theorize is commencing:
1. The New World Order is using the corporatist mass media to co-opt the real anti-Fed revolt (originally started by WeAreChange), in order to blend it with a fake anti-Fed revolt that they are setting up, in order to incite a broad anti-Fed revolution among the US citizenry, which should hit high gear later this year, if not by summer.
2. The New World Order will use what I just stated in 1, and the pre-planned and staged problems with the increasingly weakening banks and US dollar (which will ultimately collapse fully), in order to modify or abolish the Fed and the current money system.
3. And the New World Order will present a specific solution to this pre-planned scenario I just stated in 2 in order to replace the current banking and money system with, they will tell us, a ‘better’ system: a world banking and money system
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Here's how I see it.
We'll continue to work to end the Fed, and gather supporters.
If they try to shove in something worse, then we'll deal with that as we come to it.
And stop that too.
Yes!
People need to hear the truth about the conspiracy, but if too many people hear about the conspiracy, then the movement will be hijacked.
Hmmm.
You know, I was going to get this great Liberty candidate I'm promoting in my state to speak at the End the Fed rallies, but it just occurred to me that it may turn into a conspiracy theorist love-fest.
I'll advise him to stay away.
Alex Jones certainly has a
Alex Jones certainly has a complex world view, I will say that. He often "over-conspircizes" everything and is constantly trying to keep his supporters on the edge. Every time they "gain ground" he switches his views and says that everything they have accomplished has been supported by the enemies. He has done this many times over. I don't know if he believes it or if he just likes his power but its obviously BS. Thats why i can't take anything out of his mouth seriously. He does have some good points, unfortunately the garbage waters it down.
if everything we do is wrong or is playing right into their....
hands then why do we bother.
this defeatist logic does us no good. is ron paul in on it now too?
or are we just trying to drive traffic to infowars. let me know how i am being used so i can make sense of it all.
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Ive seen people go down that
Ive seen people go down that road(turning on Ron Paul). At some point, people need to set their foot down.
Ventura 2012
Replacements come hard now a days
END the FED is good , but replace it with what is the fix.. CHINA wants what ?? THINK again , out of crisis come ??? WHAT ?
you-no
see to your liberty
Why does anyone presume the FED has to be replaced with
ANYTHING?
We don't need, nor should we have a friggin central bank!!
WHY OH WHY is that so difficult for people to understand?
The problem isn't the FED per se it is CENTRALIZED BANKING. (and the fiat currency that goes hand in hand with it)
Fractional Reserve practices are not as big of a problem, because as soon as you eliminate the "national" banking system and are left with an open competitive private state chartered system, any banks still practicing fractional reserve business will go belly up very quickly. Fractional Reserve only works nationwide. It cannot function on a case by case basis. Heck, the whole purpose of it is to CREATE money, which has little or no effect one bank at a time on a sporadic basis. Those who engage in more sound banking practices will thrive and force the others out of the market.
A "World" system will be even worse and we will still fight to destroy it.
OF THE MEDIA ,BY THE MEDIA in the past, NOW LEADERS ?
I'm right with you on this posting ..The same people who perped the crisis are now on board the FED train..They have side tracked our Constitutional movement into a TAX REVOLT movement..Damn the taxes ,I've been paying too much for years and right now I don't care about finance, I care about LIBERTY & FREEDOM, ,which takes care of the finances...WE are being hood winked ...We must stick to OUR message ....
you-no
see to your liberty
It's about fractional reserve banking
It's not about ending the Fed. It's not even about establishing a gold standard. It's about ending fractional reserve banking, which we have been stuck with since the late seventeenth century when the Bank of England foisted it upon us.
By co-opting the "end the Fed" movement, the NWO will just replace it with a new global paper currency -- maybe even one supposedly backed by gold. But as long they maintain fractional reserve banking, they can fraudulently print money to fund wars, under the guise of legitimacy.
Our mantra should not be "end the Fed". It should not be "gold standard". It should be "no fractional reserve banking" (with the implicit assumption that we would also have a gold standard).
Only by ending fractional reserve banking can we limit government and end the Keynesian business cycle.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the Dutch used to have something similar?
that needs to be the LAST
that needs to be the LAST thing on the agenda, because a LOT of people like fractional reserve banking to a certain extent.
Ventura 2012
correct, it is almost
correct, it is almost mandatory in our modern day commerce system. We literally wouldnt be able to survive without fractional reserve right now. We need to get back on the gold standard.
Horse pucky
Give me some proof as to why we need to devalue our currency every time someone makes a deposit?
We need FREE MARKET - Banking AND Money. The market should decide which banking practices it has the most confidence in, and what commodities it prefers to use as a medium of exchange. Sure, some people will use gold, but not exclusively, and since fractional reserve practices are destructive to savings, anyone engaging in them will go bust quickly for lack of victims, I mean, customers.
Fractional Reserve Banking should be prosecuted as fraud
One of the roles of government is to prosecute crimes, and fractional reserve banking constitutes fraud. Consider a new country starting with a blank slate -- it doesn't have any banking laws yet. Someone starts a bank and takes "demand deposits" whereby the banker promises to be able to pay back deposits whenever the depositor desires. At the same time the bank loans out that deposited money. Common sense says that that is fraud, little different than the Madoff Ponzi scheme. It's only because we have banking law that specicially prescribe fractional reserve banking that we somehow think it is normal, or even as you put it, an acceptable alternative in the free market. It's not acceptable; it's criminal.
reasonable assessment
1. Read Shock Doctrine, and you get the gyst of what they do; "don't waste a perfectly good crisis".... so they use it as a springboard for the installation of the plan they have been working on for years...
2. Not only THAT, they will ALSO use the moment to show how the enemies of the people are the people who were against the FED. maybe.
Wonderful.
Just
END THE FED!
Watch freedomtofascism.com
Handcuffed during Sermon watch youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cE1jOQbAkag
Look at the source
Look at who posted this ... why it makes no sense.
our resident anarchist?
our resident anarchist?
Ventura 2012
Yeah, Beware ( sarcasm )
Of anyone who thinks outside the box. It nice outside the box, you really should try it.
Any time something good
Any time something good happens, it's always a conspiracy. In reality, they can't hijack our movement even if they tried. The message is there and it's spreading. You should have seen how many Ron Paul supporters were at these protests.
NOT
How many RON PAUL supporters were in a place of honor & in the mikhriphone ??
you-no
see to your liberty
So is Dr. Paul's new book...
"End The Fed" misleading? Maybe he really meant we should all "grow tomatoes," but he thought "End The Fed" would sell more books. Am I missing something here?
Conversely the patriot
Conversely the patriot movement is trying to hijack the mainstream media by putting a libertarian show on Fox news. Namely, "Freedom Watch" with Judge Napolitano. Join us in this fight by supporting the show and spreading it around.
www.freedomwatchonfox.com
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We need to abolish the Fed
Just make sure that whatever replaces it is not run by the same inbred psychopathic generational Satanists.
You'll get this with any movement
Cointelpro stealing your thunder is ALWAYS gonna happen, especially when we already have the basic infrastructure setup. When we give in to their takeover and avoid movements like this it's all over. USE this opportunity to wake up more people and educate yourself more. Truth strikes people.
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Start getting freedom today by dumping Federal Reserve Notes, Stocks, Banks and anything made outside the USA. Buy precious metals, real estate, businesses, food and guns and get your business community to use local or sound currency
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Start getting freedom today by dumping Federal Reserve Notes, Stocks, Banks and anything made outside the USA. Buy precious metals, real estate, businesses, food and guns and get your business community to use local or sound currenc
You'll never have sound money without ending the FED.
As long as you have a central bank with monopolistic control of credit, you won't have sound money. Remember, these clowns destroyed the gold standard in the first place.
You'll have misinformation agents no matter what movement you start.
The only way to destroy an enemy is by first identifying him, and the "sound money" mantra doesn't get that job done. It's much easier to let the agents of misinformation think they've co-opted your movement, then turn the tables on them. I know it can be done, because I've done it myself, on a small scale, at least.
Remember, Ron Paul said
Remember, Ron Paul said "sound money" and we responded "end the fed".
Ventura 2012
Mother Teresa
Mother Teresa once said that she would never attend an "Anti-War" rally, but then offered that she would definitely go to a "Peace" rally.
This brings up a good point.
Let's eliminate the "End The Fed" mantra and turn it into a "Sound Money" campaign.
Return to honest money.
I agree completely
The Kansas City gathering is called "Monopoly March"
Because, not only is it more positive, but we really don't have an issue with the FED existing - just the monopoly on our money. As Ron Paul always said, the best way out is a competing currency that maintains its value.
The first step to all of this is HR1207 in my opinion.
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"We are the inheritors of the American Enlightenment, which tells us that Individual Liberty always trumps collectivism in all forms."
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"We are the inheritors of the American Enlightenment, which tells us that Individual Liberty always trumps collectivism in all forms."
"we really don't have an
"we really don't have an issue with the FED existing - just the monopoly on our money".
Who are you (who are you? you dont sound like a ron paul supporter) saying WE! Your not speaking for me or the ron paul supporters I know. The fed is evil in and of itself the issue of sound money is a lesser matter. If we had sound money then the fed wouldnt exist. in order to have a sound money you have to stop paying a private bank to print it. if we said 'end unsound money' the sheeple wouldnt understand what we were talking about. end the fed.
"The revolutionary forces have to take civil society before they take the state, and therefore have to build a coalition of oppositional groups united under a hegemonic banner which usurps the dominant or prevailing hegemony." -Strinati, Dominic.
monopoly
Yes. And this monopoly is maintained via the threat of force -- at the point of a gun.
If you compete with FRNs, you will be kidnapped by the monopoly enforcers.
It is the initiation force and the threat of force, that is evil.
the Fed
I agree.
No, because if they promote
No, because if they promote a successful end the fed movement then they just trained millions of people to want sound money, which means we would be more likely to deny a global central bank.
NOW, they COULD do a Faux news type usurpation of the end the fed movement and water it down to the point where the majority are so focused on the fed and not central banking in general that they completely miss the point, but they are risking opening up the world of monetary policy to the public and that is too much of a risk to take.
Ventura 2012
Also -- just a tip
Try not to be so conspiratorial with motivations.
People are STUPID. A lot of them. Including most of the MSM. They were taught in school, like most of us, that centralization always helps and that truth is relative. It's hard to blame the indoctrinated slave, but that's what they are.
If you look at Glenn Beck's transformation over the last 1 1/2, you can see that he's just a dumb DJ who liked to talk on the radio. He understands some things, he's confused by a lot of it, but Glenn Beck didn't plan 9/11, Glenn Beck isn't thinking about how to co-opt the movement etc.
It's about money and ratings and ideas.
Just get our ideas out there. Build relationships. Be effective.
not everything is a conspiracy.
Bump... It may already be too late.
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Get creative -- fight back
Get creative -- fight back with information, books, speeches, letters etc. Build relationships with people -- then explain why we are right.
BTW WeAreChange didn't start the anti-Fed revolt. The anti-Fed movement has been going on much longer than November 2006.
Obviously it was Ron Paul who brought awareness to it.
I said this WEEKS ago.
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/87239#comment-950647
March 23, 2009...
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"I am increasingly suspicious of the motivation behind the MSM's coverage of the End the FED rallies and the broadcasting of the "Ron Paul was right" ideas. This is the same MSM that excommunicated us just 1 year ago for saying these exact things, End the FED, and Gold Standard. I am simply questioning their motivation, I am glad that we are getting coverage, but now I find myself asking, why???
Just my wild guess.... But here is one way I think this could play out.
The FED, I believe, will take the fall for the economic meltdown and failed fiat currency. Ironically, the FED will be replaced with a new institution touting "the gold standard" so that "this collapse never happens again". Maybe they'll name it the "Global Gold Reserve" or "International Monetary Reserve". It wont matter what they call it, because it will be the same song, different dance. Instead of borrowing cotton paper at interest, we will borrow gold from the new institution, at interest..."
So confusing
As I'm trying to figure this out.
Is this right?:
1. Congress begins to issue a new completely fiat currency at 0 interest that you can pay taxes with.
2. Wean off the FED and pay off debt with the new currency.
3. Never allow currency to be created with interest/debt attached.
Cause I think I just learned that Gold Standard is just as much of a trap. That the original revolution we're told was mostly because of taxation without representation. That the only coin they could use to pay taxes was bank of london issued gold coin, that had interest/debt attached to it, and That, is the taxation without representation.
Is that right?
Your right.
Revolutionaries who fought for liberty from the British, were killed by George Washington in the Whiskey Rebellion. All so we could continue to pay interest on debt. Different government, same bankers.
http://www.earlyamerica.com/earlyamerica/milestones/whiskey/
Yep*
Right on.
Bankers Rule.
It looks like G=20 has agreed to a new currency. They are SDRs.
Special-Drawing-Rights = 222 when each letters position in the alphabet is added up. Perhaps in celebration (or death) of the 222nd anniversary of our Constitution.
Anagrams for "Special Drawing Rights" are;
Pig's Grand witch Ra lies
Grand witches sip grail
Paris "G" Grand witch lies
Ra Christ wins G pig deal
Sacred Grail is with (PNG)
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/85990
Can't wait to see what the bills look like, unless perhaps they will be strictly electronic. Where do we unplug the Beast!
grant
Nailed it!
At this point, the nearly 100 year run of the Federal Reserve system has just about served its purpose. The American people have been hopelessly enslaved in a mountain of debt which can never be repayed. The major resources and assets of the U.S. are under the ownership control of non-Americans. The people's only legal means of exchange has been reduced to a state of utter worthlessness. As George Bush would say, "Mission Accomplished". The "FED" could probably care less if we "end the FED"... it's served its purpose. Game Over. As much as I admire RP for HR1207, it's only going to serve as an autopsy of our monetary system. The crime has long-since been commited.
Maybe our protest should instead be focused upon dismantling the supra-National central banks (World Bank, IMF and BIS). They'll be the ones to provide the next "banking stabilization solution" and will execute and complete an agenda similar to the FED, but on a global scale.
Welcome to your new Bank- The Super Fed!
Ending stuff
If we keep using our energy to "End the Fed" or "End the World Currency", we will get nowhere.
We have to legalize competing currencies -- this is the only the solution.
This way, no one institution gets to decide what money is. The free market will through voluntary cooperation vs. forced monopoly.
The key to this problem is not to force any one system onto everybody. The solution is to cease the force that is now being used to maintain a monopoly on money.
In other words, Ron Paul supporters shouldn't force a gold standard on everybody through voting. The free market will decide what the best currency is -- but this can only happen when you eliminate monopoly and force and let all interactions between people be voluntary.
This is how the Fed or any fiat currency will be ended. By the removal of our consent.
Evil will dissolve when most people realize that the initiation of force is wrong.
You are dead on!
You are dead on!
Agree 100%, we need not kill the Fed.
With competing currencies, the Fed will die of natural causes.
Our efforts need to be with competing currencies, be it foreign currencies, gold, silver, platinum, palladium, beans, or coupons from the grocery store. End legal tender laws and the Fed falls.
grant
Legal tender laws
Yes, thanks.
I want people to realize that the problem is not the Fed per se, but the legal tender laws which essentially point a gun at you and state - "if you compete with Federal Reserve Notes, I will kidnap you."
We can't opt out -- we can't compete through voluntary, peaceful cooperation -- because there is a gun pointed at you that threatens violence if you don't adhere to the money monopoly.
The Solution
That's why the solution is NOT to end the Fed.
The solution is to do what Ron Paul said -- Legalize Competing Currencies
If they end the Fed and then replace it with a global currency, we will still have a fiat currency and those who wanted to end the Fed will have to shut up because they got what they wanted.
Important Note
There is NOT a power monolith. There are factions. The Infowars cats get too caught up thinking there is one faction. Ain't true.
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I've been wondering about
I've been wondering about this too as the media seems to be allowing some opposition to the Fed to occur on air. It seems like a possibility that the TPTB may be sacrificing the golden goose to make way for the global golden cow.