Churchgoers More Likely to Back Torture

Is the biggest public sheep herder there is.

They prey on the public's desire to be "part of a group", much like the 2 party system that makes them vote for the "winner".

It's mind propaganda.

Since when do DailyPaulers not understand the difference between CNN Poll or a Fox Poll; oh, wait there is no difference.

Wow! 742 -- all from Slow-Poke County right -- Where Uncle-Daddy gets to poll twice?

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I'm neither of the above. I tend to judge people by the way they behave. Actions speak so much louder than words.

"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.

many smart Ron Paul supporters dismissed polls last year that Dr. Paul would be polling at only 0,5 % or 1% etc, and thus kceptical of polling, but now we want to believe a CNN (Pew) poll uncritically
Also, you have (intentionally?) omitted this important part of the short CNN part on this:
"The religious group most likely to say torture is never justified was Protestant denominations -- such as Episcopalians, Lutherans and Presbyterians -- categorized as "mainline" Protestants, in contrast to evangelicals".

As to myself, I have opposed the Iraq war from the beginning and consistently ever mainly based on religious reasons. Eeven if the president would be able to constitutionally declare war himself, I would have been against it. As Dr. Paul has said, the notion of "pre-emptive war" is totally the opposite of the christian tradition and in the New Testament.

As to the "evangelicals" that would believe it, we should simply convince them, not reject them.
The doctrinaire neocons. like Kristol, Frum, Wolfowitz etc. that would all approve of torture, are mostly atheists or agnostics.

Torture is most definitely NOT part of the Christian tradition, Prof. De la Paz. Since when do you profess to be a church historian? As a matter of fact, early Christians and through the centuries have been the object of torture! I can cite countless examples and proof of this. The big wars in this world under Stalin, Mao etc. have been committed by atheists. Of course there has been murder by people who call themselves christians, also suicide etc. This is called sin. If you become a christian, it does not mean you do never sin anymore, but your attitude towards sin changes radically, e.g. you recognize it as a sin , ask for forgiveness and see what you can do to do good deeds.

I thought I would be doing something useful that helped people be able to get their voice heard. I quit after the first week. I could not live with myself asking people questions that were twisted to get a certain results wanted by the group paying for the poll, and I had worked telemarketing before that and had not felt as slimy.

Many of the people who would take the poll did not know what they were talking about and would even contradict themselves. Depending on how the question was asked you could get people to say they supported both sides on abortion. One question they would say they were pro life and 3 questions later they would say they were pro choice.

The best example is parasite pollster Frank Luntz. If you are offended by the F word you should still watch this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If9EWDB_zK4
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based on corporate police-state, false left/right-gay/straight-black/white, people-dividing propaganda veiled by some ridiculously biased survey conducted on the mentally ill....

I would go to CNN.com, not this site. GET IT! Thank you.

Then again, the evangelical church, by failing to even superficially teach biblical doctrine, has practically cattle-prodded an entire generation into the slaughterhouse of blind, government-trusting consumerism. Atheists are no better. The state has been your messiah for some time now. Heck, they even convinced you that it was socially acceptable and even "sexy" for you to execute your young.

They believe whatever these news organizations tell them... without question. It's actually quite frightening.

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approve of torture- well wait - thats a lie- a friend of mine's teenage son does- but not sure if he counts. Used to pull the wings offa flies when he was a kid. That's my experience with "church- goers"..any stats on "mosque-goers" or "synagogue-goers"?

x, for short...you always post the best stuff!!!

Thank you...................

Most of the churchgoers that I know actually so support torture.

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“A wise and frugal government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement” - Thomas Jefferson

So much for loving your enemy.

Besides myself, I know another born-again Jesus loving Christian who opposes torture. Dr. Ron Paul. :)

Actually, I know of no Christians who support torture.

I like your Christ but your Christians Suck...

What a den of vipers and hypocrites.

-quote from the minister of a church we stopped going to (as soon as he said that.)

The Christians I am friends with mostly all support the wars. And you can't interest them in a discussion of torture. They think we are "helping" over in Iraq.

Totally brainwashed and very sad. If only the churches took a stand. But I guess the 501 (c) 3 issue keeps them gagged and acting like it's a virtue to "stay out of it."

Of course the unspoken assumption is that it will be Muslims who are being tortured. I would suggest that the demographic that has been singled out for this survey is exactly that demographic that has bought into the Islamo-fascist world conquest propaganda.

First, I would question anything that CNN puts out. I mean, really.

Second, I am not really surprised at the results but extremely disappointed. The problem is that they believe strongly in the government's version of 9/11. They believe so strongly in it that they advocate that torture for these creeps is totally ok, considering what they did. But, it all comes back to their listening to too much MSM and not doing their homework.

They listen to their pastors too much instead of studying their Bibles and praying to hear the word of God. They mindlessly follow these leaders. They will eventually lead them off the cliff and Jesus said if it were possible, even the elect would be deceived. We are living in those times.

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"Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct thy paths." Proverbs 3:5,6

Well this is one regular church-goer who opposes torture.

Hey another great article from the Communist News Network

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torture does play a part.

Has anyone (especially if you are a Christian) seen the film Dogville with Nicole Kidman, Lauren Bacall, James Caan, John Hurt, etc.,? If you’ve seen it, I’d like to know what you thought of it.

For those who haven't seen the film, it's a very hard film to "get into & stick with" and is done in "play" form. But once you get to a certain point in the story and understand what's going on, expecially who the main character represents, I'm sure you will find it a very thought-provoking film and I'd like to know your thoughts.

Sheep have always bleeted in favor of taking down the rams. It is perfectly consistent with the traditions of christendom.

"The bliss in heaven would not be perfect unless we were able to look across the abyss and enjoy the sight of the damned writhing in the agony of perpetual hell." -- Gregory VII

But don't forget to drop a few bucks in the box on your way out .

the Churches and their clergy have been compromised for many years, and they are working to control their congregations, hand in hand with the NWO.
Most independent Christians have known this for years.
Never attend a church with a 501-C3 corporate tax exempt status.

Jesus is really cool but many of his "followers" . . . not so much.

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The forces of dark have a MAJOR interest in controlling worship, just know that folks.

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So, how do the people who maintain that morality comes from religion explain this?

I find that a little unsettling. Have these people completely missed the fundamental teachings of Christ?

Pat

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