OUTFOXED : Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism
A fair and balanced look at Fox News. The documentarians report, you decide.
There is a full scale information war going on in the corporate press. The battle is for the American mind. Whatever Fox did to the left - and it was extremely effective - they can do to our movement as well. It is a good idea to understand their tactics.
e.g. 22:53: They don't have to win every argument. But if they can muddy the argument enough, if they can turn it into a draw, that to them is a victory. Because it denies the other side a victory.
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OUTFOXED: A plea for a return to the [un]fairness doctrine
The key to this whole video is the very end, where there is a plea to return to the fairness doctrine. This is a dangerous move which would harm the freedom movement.
Don't be outfoxed by this video. All of the MSM is controlled.
Dave Diers
Chanhassen, Minnesota
OK but NONE of them are really doing a good job
Every network is nothing more than public relations for whatever their goal and objectives are.
We think that the Freedom of The Press is for you and me but in reality the Freedom of the Press belongs to he who owns the press.
Bruce
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
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my reply to dfwrider
great comments. you have a Republican problem there. big R. here in michigan, we have a huge Democrat problem. big D. what is the damn difference indeed. i've thought about joining the democratic party here just to run for commissioner. i'd be the biggest gun advocate in the party. you should do the same in your texas district. run as a republican. you'd be the biggest gun advocate in the party.
john kerry sucks
if they would have also made the point that the democratic puppet was also a joke, then it would have been really good.
Fox News is there
Yes, Fox and Murdock may be in a war against the other networks. And, yes obviously the former employees of Fox are not happy when the company changed hands and changed ideologies. But, I am glad that there is at least one place where we can go in the MSM and hear both sides of the arguments of the day. I am not saying that Fox does not lean Right, I believe it does but it is still one against many that lean or lead Left. Fox is a lone voice with a different point of view than the others. I am glad they are there.
Agreed
The major problem is the socialist takeover of the media that happened long ago. I would guess that 90% or more of the media is made up of Democrat loving socialists. At least Fox has anti-government people like Glen Beck, Cody Willard, Judge Nepolitano, and David Asman. At least Fox was respectful of the Tea Parties, not like all the other pro-government pro-Obama networks.
This documentary is nothing but a hysterical cry from socialists that they can't regulate the media. Well, PEOPLE regulate the media with their channel changers. That's how we want it to work. If anything I would like to see all media regulations and the FCC disappear.
you can't be serious, you're
you can't be serious, you're like an expert in stating the obvious, while completely missing the big picture.
Your first two sentences:
Yes, Fox and Murdock may be in a war against the other networks. And, yes obviously the former employees of Fox are not happy when the company changed hands and changed ideologies.
What does this have to do with anything? You admit that Fox is in competition with other networks and has evolved over time? Whoa, earth shattering news.
And then your next statement about you being able to go to the one, and only place to get both sides of the argument.
THIS IS THE VERY THING WE'RE TRYING TO TELL YOU.
You're getting both FAKE SIDES of the argument. This is what the whole dang thread is trying to communicate, if not the entire dailypaul. YOU'RE NOT GETTING BOTH TRUE SIDES OF THE ARGUMENT, you're getting both sides of a bunch of fake crap, sprinkled with a little truth here and there to make it plausible for those who can't be bothered with critical thinking.
I am not saying that Fox does not lean Right
Gee, I would have thought most DailyPaulers would have had this lesson all ready. The left right paradigm is phony piece of garbage. Didn't you get the memo?
http://video.google.com/v...
Anyway, it sounds like you're still brainwashed. Fox has you convinced that it's just you and them, and a handful of "great americans" against the world. Maybe I can get you a date with Hannity.
It's one against many
Fox is the lone voice
Fox is different
Hook. Line. Sinker.
FOX did a great job during the Presidential Primaries
FOX made sure everyone in the debates got equal airtime and questions of real value. Ron Paul was included in every debate that FOX organized. FOX did not ask questions meant to marginalize Ron Paul. FOX never edited Ron Paul from debate replays. Fox never ignored the results of their own polls when Ron Paul would win them.
Wait a second, that is bizarro FOX, but we don't live in bizarro world. In this world FOX did everything they could to distort the Primary process. They even edited Ron Paul's name from AP stories.
FOX lies and distorts the new. This is proven fact. Why should anyone trust them?
BTW, I'm not defending other MSM news services, just pointing out facts about FOX.
You had me going..LOL
I was wondering exactly what FAUX you were watching...and what you were smoking while watching it...Bizarro FOX is pretty cool though...I love some sealab
Dated...But Still So True!
Just finished watching the whole clip. Though several years old, it certainly was informative. Wish the DVD that's available was current. I'd love to see how what "seems" like a new "openness" on the part of Fox News plays is portrayed and explained. I don't doubt that Fox is strategizing and not swinging toward something we'd consider credible.
Interesting video
What stinks is that both Fox and the others all want big government. Only one is tied to republicans and the other is democrats. They said that fox should have been talking about national health care instead of the propaganda they were. National health care is a joke. Government can't provide any goods or services without taking it from someone else. Seperate discussion. They did have some good points and good footage. Most people accuse the networks but don't state any facts. This video did a lot of that, but it had evidence as well.
james wolcott is no better a shill than anyone on fox.
the guy writes for vanity fair magazine. i've seen this guy on c span criticize the tea parties as just being "the other side, and they had their chance for 8 years" blah blah. also saying that most the people showing up for the tea parties were ron paul supporters and no one is going to get behind their abolish the fed message.
well, this message is probably the fastest growing message in the political realm right now. sorry buddy. you're no better than fox.
this is true, most of the
this is true, most of the talking heads, and media personalities are all schills.
I happen to live in a red state, and I myself live very conservatively. While all my RINO friends claim to be conservative, and supporters of the republic, meanwhile they've borrowed themselves into bankruptcy in the suburbs, they support an unbelieveably expensive foreign policy, they support an all powerful and expanding federal government, they supported the patriot act, they supported gitmo and torture, they supported an executive branch that expands it's power, they supported a police state when it's used against those that disagree with them.
and they're daily diet is fox news.
i know how jacked up (what we call the) "left" is, and how jacked up the liberal(for a lack of better term) mainstream media is, and that vanity fair is a bunch of lefties. (did I use enough collectivist mainstream labels for your taste?).
My problem is not with the Democrats/Liberals. I'm smack in Bush Country, and surrounded by a bunch of Republicans-In-Name-Only (RINOs), and fake conservatives.
Nothing pisses me off more then hypocrisy and mendacity. And it's all around me, and it's a Republican Problem.
I don't give a crap about what's going on the so called left, or MSNBC, etc.
Those fighting the problems in the Democratic party...that's another world. That's there fight, there party to fix. Those are the Daily Paulers living in Cali or the North East, or elsewhere. That's not my problem. We all have our roles.
I've got to fix a lot of broken RINOs here in Texas, and the work is endless.
I don't have time to be worried about the clueless sheep elsewhere...
I'm amazed at how many people don't expect this.
I never understand how anyone would believe that any media billionaire would NOT use this incredible power to shape politics. It's cheaper and essentially tax deductible to promote a candidate in your own media rather than giving money to them or running for office yourself. Plus no term limits.
Murdoch is not the only one, he's just the worst (most talented) of them.
Outfoxed
Fox news simply filled a void left by the stone age liberal media. Fox talking heads Hannity, O'reilly, Ingraham, Beck, Levine (excuse me while i puke) showed their true Neo Con colors during the 2008 campaign. Very disappointing. We must remember they are after market share which allows them to continue to fund their news empire. Sadly the market share for liberty seems rather small.
On a positive note, fox does host Judge Andrew Napolitano.
Fox News was my preferred
Fox News was my preferred news channel for 8 years or so. Had them on for some time nearly every day. Sometimes I would leave their channel on while working just to listen.
Anyhow, after their treatment of Ron Paul I dropped them completely. Not only that, but pushed far too many lies on us. I have not watched Fox News for probably 16 months now.
The only good thing I can think about Fox currently is that they have Judge Andrew Napolitano. Just the fact that they still have The Judge might be enough to draw me back.
Fox News' new trend of leaning towards freedom & liberty is something that helps draw me back, but so far has not because I do not feel that they are genuine. They need to do a lot better.
So the pot is calling the kettle black? Tsk, tsk!
We haven't gotten any straight news for half a century, at least.
When, at first, Fox looked like it might be a breath of fresh air, their two top clowns ... Hannity and O'Rielly ... quickly dashed my hopes. If there's one thing I find loathsome, its hypocritical mouthpieces who proudly wear a "Catholic" label. They are rude, crude, traitors to God, to their religion, and to the people who listen to them.
Solution to this: throw out your TV. Don't listen to any of them.
Professional propoganda
indeed, but the same with the other big media, they were all in the boat for Obama, with Dr. Paul mostly being ignored by both "propoganda" groups.
It is interesting that Murdock contributed in 2007 to Hillary Clinton already and his daughter contributed to Obama. Murdock himself is basically a "neocon" that comes from the left. He does not care reporting about issues that brings him some money. He knows there is a niche. He would for instance let Fox be "pro-life" while he himself is "pro-choice" for instance.
Wish there were some true Independent major TV media.
Fox: More Than 200 Israelis Arrested for Espionage Around 9/11
http://video.google.com/v...
This is the story that has me confused. Why did the highly pro-Israeli Fox News report this? Was it to put their spin on it, quickly report it once, and get it out of the way?
And, of course, the greater question is why didn't other networks report it?
This should have been front page headline news in all media.
Penetrated Targets:
Military Bases & Department of Defense
Drug Enforcement Agency
Federal Buearu of Investigation
United States Secret Service
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco & Firearms
United States Customs & Border Protection
Internal Revenue Service
U.S. Immigration & Naturalization Service
U.S. Environmental Protection Agency
U.S. Department of the Interior
United States Marshals
United States Attorneys
Secret Government Offices
Unlisted homes of law enforcement personnel
Majority of Israelis questioned, "Stated they served in military intelligence, electronic surveillance intercept and or explosive ordinance units."
http://video.google.com/v...
Ron Paul's Convention Speech
good find!
It's funny that so many Arabs were indefinately prisoned with much less evidence than the 200 Israeli, intelligent gathering, bomb making spies.
This is the first I heard that any Israeli was officially connected to 911.
Most are Completely Unaware of This Massive "Spy" Operation
Were you aware that Israelis were also arrested with truck loads of explosives at the 9/11 crime scene:
http://www.dailypaul.com/...
Ron Paul's Convention Speech
I think a completely hushed up story ...
... is more of a threat than one that they let the air out of slowly. That way, it's controlled. Obviously, no other outlet picked up the story (very strange, or should I say, "controlled"). It should have been front page news for months, especially in view of 9/11.
AmericanFreePress.net Reported Israeli Connection In 2001
Of course the paper has been defamed by neo-con talk radio hosts like Sean Hannity and Michael Medved etc., which is only one of many reasons I've remained a subscriber since 2001. Though I don't agree with everything they print, they are pro Ron Paul.....and report much of the news the MSM won't touch.
That's true, if they don't cover it, it can more easily explode.
Ron Paul's Convention Speech
Why did FOX report it and why didn't others?
Easy questions. FOX reported it because they want to be accepted as a credible alternative to all the other fifth column, I mean fourth estate, slime.
The others didn't report it because they are Israel-first traitors.
If that's the case, wouldn't Fox have reported it more than once
It seems to me more like they were sweeping it under the rug as "Israelis spying but not involved."
But we are talking about massive espionage operations within many government organizations - hundreds were arrested!
What is interesting is that they didn't mention the CIA...
Ron Paul's Convention Speech
Thanks for posting
I have some people I know that really believe faux is fair and balanced I want to share this with. At least Glenn Beck doesn't call his show news. He admits what he is. But people like Oreilly need to be b**** slapped. I can't believe people watch him. It is sooo obvious that fox is a neocon station, Just like msnbc is a Obama worship station. Both brainwashing for the sheeple. Then again the people I would like to share with seem to have closed minds and short attention spans. Alot of that going around.
Lots of other great links here
Especially about the media smear of Ron Paul
http://www.meetup.com/RLC...
OK YOU FOX SYMPATHIZERS
I've had it with your crap.
Here's a clue for you.
How far, ideologically, are we from MSNBC vs FOX?
HERE'S THE ANSWER YOU CLUELESS BUNCH OF KNUCKLEHEADS.
equidistant.
in other words THE SAME.
If you can't grasp that, then you have no hope of fixing either party, and either the talking heads of MSNBC or FOX have captured your pea brain.
this message is not meant for those who enjoy "this segment" or "that segment"....I'm talking about those who want to lick Sean Hannity's boots or Keith Olbermann's boots.
those of you who fall somewhere in between a fox news or msnbc snack once in a while, and a daily diet of that mainstream crap....you best be careful.
it's not good for the noggin.
Isn't it time to start your own radio station to rival Fox?
If you have already, can you give info?
The video seems to epitomise the BBC . Entrenched bias. The difference is that you can choose to subscribe to Fox - or not. We have to pay a license fee for the BBC, whether or not we watch it - if we have a TV, we pay upwards of £140/year for the privilege of biased reporting.
Wonderful! ;)
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From Across the Pond, with best wishes
we have our own news source
it's called "here"
here is good.
here is good.
Thank you!
Will tune in!
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From Across the Pond, with best wishes
Outfoxed
Little late bringing this one to the party IMO. It is an oldie but a goodie. While you are pulling out those, Go for Who Killed the Electric Car if you have not seen it. Must see IMO. I have links to many more sites if you are interested.
Who Killed the Electric Car
Who Killed the Electric Car is a great one, too.
Unfortunately, that one is not available on Google video.
Yes, please do link the other sites. Oldies are goodies, as many people haven't seen them, even though they're old.
Piqued my interest...
http://www.sonyclassics.c...
http://www.pbs.org/now/sh...
http://hydranox5000.com/v...
Michael,
You say below things like "Yes, Fox is covering the Tea Parties, and for that I applaud them. But where was their coverage of the End the Fed rallies the following weekend?"
I saw Fox Business bring Peter Schiff ahead of the End the Fed rallies, to talk about the rallies and Fed abolition. And they said right on the bottom of the screen that there were going to be End the Fed rallies around the country. They didn't have to inform anyone that these rallies were going to take place, but they did. If they didn't cover them later (which I don't know if they did) it's because they were miniscule. It really wasn't very newsworthy.
You also say "And it is great to have the Judge, but remember - that is just a webcast. And people are so happy they see something like that because it has the Fox logo - they think Fox has found the truth or whatever. But they can keep the issues very neatly segmented simply by keeping the Judge's show as a webcast." I guess you're not aware that the break into the Fox News from Freedom Watch in order to allow the Judge to advertise the internet show. It's not like they're trying to hide it! They want as many viewers as possible! Viewers is money. You should know that, operating a website.
And you say "The danger with Fox is that they absorb the liberty movement, tweak it slightly and mass broadcast their controlled version of it. One way of tweaking it slightly is to leave out all mention of the role of the Fed." Again, I guess you don't watch Fox, because if you did they mention the Fed all the time, attack it, and even call for its abolition. David Asman in a Fed abolitionist for example, and did a show on elimination of the Fed on Fox Business. Too bad you missed it. He's my favorite newscaster of any network. He also drilled Alan Greenspan in one interview to get him to admit that we don't need a Fed.
So I don't know where you're coming from. If you're going to make these claims then you should be a Fox Viewer. You seem to just be making assumptions of what is NOT on the air, just because you didn't see it. I suggest you watch more Fox, especially Fox Business.
End the Fed rallies weren't newsworthy?
Please....
And now would you like to discuss the newsworthiness of what they cover instead? Hmmm. A few newsworthy "stories" come to mind given the nearly incessant, double-digit percentage blather they entailed...Anna Nicole, Britanny Spears, Lindsey Lohan, Paris Hilton, OJ, J-Lo, etc. etc. etc.
**“The man who does not read good books has no advantage over the man who cannot read them.” ~ Mark Twain **
and if they have Fox Liberty
and if they have Fox Liberty channel, will then you be swallowing that one hook line and sinker? probably.
of course Fox has Fox Business. they'd be stupid not to. but it's an incredibly slick move.
for RINOs and fake conservatives, they gorge themselves on deep fried buffet of Fox News, and then have a little side salad of Fox Business.
yea. that's real healthy.
Then Fox being Fox will take ratings any way they can, and use little side shows to pander to the business crowd, or the libertarian crowd, or the ron paul crowd or whatever.
I suggest you take your head out of your rear, and recognize Fox for what it is, 99% propaganda and misinformation.
you act like people haven't seen that network before.
oh we've seen them before. the biggest group of immoral talking heads, with MSNBC right behind them.
because they throw a little meat our way, doesn't mean jack.
Fox is a pyramid. You can see who Rupert has at the top, and who is side salad.
I'll go one step further,
I'll go one step further, people who tend to watch MSNBC or Fox News on a daily basis, are suspect of being mentally deficient.
to pull down a video from Youtube of Napolitano every so often is one thing, to sit in front of the tube day after day during supper time to get your fill of hannity, glenn beck, o'reilly, olbermann, etc.
that's just sick.
Watching - You GATA keep your finger on the pulse of Boobus
AmericANUS to know what's really going. Vox Boobus, Vox Dei.
If what you're saying is true, then that is great news.
However, to address your points:
- The reason the Tea Parties were so large was because Fox was in fact actively promoting them, which they did not do for the End the Fed rallies. They did more than have a scrolling ticker for the Tea Parties.
- Again, it is great they advertise the Judge on TV during news breaks. But that is also different from having his actual show on the TV. How many Fox viewers will pry themselves from the TV to watch an internet show? They're two different audience segments, and the TV segment is much larger.
- I admit I never saw David Asman's segment attacking the Fed and calling for its abolition. I did a Google & YouTube search, but that turned up nothing. If you have a clip, I would love to see it.
As for becoming a Fox viewer, I basically stopped watching TV in 1999 when I definitively realized that I'd been lied to by it for my entire life. So thanks for the invitation, but I do declare that I'll pass.
Throughout this video I kept seeing
the parallels with all of the other major media which quite openly and smugly slanted their news in the last election to the left; and both Fox and the other major media guarding the 2-Party system with no alternatives considered.
There was a post on the DP of an independent journalist who made an excellent video exposing the bias of all the media in the Obama-McCain campaign; sorry I don't recall the headline to look it up and re-post it.
As far back as I remember the corporate news on both sides has been heavily slanted and unconcerned with fair, balanced reporting. The media all see news audiences as just markets, and are willing to use any dishonest means to sell their own points of view.
I have always known this but,
I didn't know how I knew it. Now I do. It is amazing at how many normally "regular people" would sell their soul to Ruppert Murdoch. What a rip off.
So where is Glen Beck in this lie? Pray tell.
I really respect RP but not when he appears on FOX
For me Ron Paul showing up on Fox news as much as he does is really quite sickening. That's where I lose respect for him.
well that's pretty ignorant.
well that's pretty ignorant.
The great thing about Ron
The great thing about Ron Paul is that he will talk to anyone. I hold absolutely nothing against the good doctor for going on Fox. He's got a job and a mission, and that is to spread the word of Liberty. He'll talk to anyone who wants to talk to him. He'll talk to Alex Jones, Fox, even a kid in his dorm room - remember that?
Good for Ron Paul, I say. He's getting the message out using all available channels.
The danger with Fox is that they absorb the liberty movement, tweak it slightly and mass broadcast their controlled version of it. One way of tweaking it slightly is to leave out all mention of the role of the Fed. As I said below, the Judge is great, but he's only got a webcast, not a TV show.
Exactly spot on -
(Newbie colors are showing...)
Obama = O.ne B.ig A.ss M.istake A.merica
And, that's his reputation, too
I hear that constituents from any district anywhere are welcome at his congressional office, whereas many in congress are only welcoming to their own constituents.
IMissLiberty
Yes, I love that about him - he'll talk to anyone because his
mission is to educate and he includes everyone. Plus he has total confidence in what he is doing and knows his subject so thoroughly (a consummate professional), that he can't be fooled or tricked up. Anyone that tries to do that winds up looking the fool themselves.