"Out of Order?" - Destruction of the Family by Judicial Fascism
Posted May 4th, 2009 by joeu
"Out of Order?", a 2000 Chronicle (WCVB-TV) video, highlights the injustice still faced by men and fathers and the destruction of normal personal relationships due to MGL 209a restraining orders. Interviews with The Fatherhood Coalition leader Mark Charalambous, Harry Stewart, Dennis Watts and others.
Ron Paul was one of only three members of congress to vote against the Violence Against Women's Act which funds such laws nationwide to the tune of more than $10 billion.
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"Out of Order?" - Destruction of the Family by Judicial "TYRANNY" its tyranny not fascism.
"Hell is truth seen too late...duty neglected in its season."- Tryon Edwards
only marry foreign virgins!
this is why men should avoid women, work hard, and build a fortune, then at the age of 40 they should find a foreign born latin, russian, or asian virgin (trust me on the virgin part!) between 18 and 21 to settle down with, preferably outside the US.
no man under the age of 40 has any business messing with women. that's just asking to ruin your life.
International Cupid is a good place to start.
"Think with your balls, not your d*ck." -Jeff White
Yeah
They won't go to the law they will just kill you in your sleep! I didn't do all of the restraining order stuff to my ex back in the 80s but I would have killed him in self defense. He had been arrested for beating me when we we married. Not even due to me calling police but by witnesses. And after I left for the safety of my child he stalked me and tried to attack me several times luckily others intervened.
Why do you think a 18-21 year old virgin would be happy with a 40 yr old man if they are not in love? I am sorry for men that the system has abused in this way. Even more sorry for the children. But to act as if it is is the norm is ridiculous. Realisticly a man is usually more of a physical threat to a woman than she is to him. I feel for you but your attitude is over the top.. I hope you find love and happiness. But I don't think you are thinking in the right direction.
Think Not with your balls or you d*ck but you heart and your mind. Raise your awareness and your zipper.
Besides are you expecting guys to stay virgins until they are 40? Good luck with that. There may be physical sexual problems if you do that.
How about becoming friends and dating before you get into a serious relationship so you know what your getting into? Sound a bit more sensible? Get over your anger towards women first though.~peace
They won't go to the law
They won't go to the law they will just kill you in your sleep!
umm... ok then!
I didn't do all of the restraining order stuff to my ex back in the 80s but I would have killed him in self defense. He had been arrested for beating me when we we married. Not even due to me calling police but by witnesses. And after I left for the safety of my child he stalked me and tried to attack me several times luckily others intervened.
so because he was an abusive prick, all men are abusive pricks. i understand now.
Why do you think a 18-21 year old virgin would be happy with a 40 yr old man if they are not in love?
that's up to them. aristotle once said the optimal age for a man to marry is 37 and for a woman is 18. real men like their women young, firm, and fertile. besides, what's the point of being rich and successful if you can't have a trophy wife?
I am sorry for men that the system has abused in this way. Even more sorry for the children. But to act as if it is is the norm is ridiculous. Realisticly a man is usually more of a physical threat to a woman than she is to him. I feel for you but your attitude is over the top.. I hope you find love and happiness. But I don't think you are thinking in the right direction.
my attitude is precisely what it should be. it is solidly grounded in logic.
Think Not with your balls or you d*ck but you heart and your mind. Raise your awareness and your zipper.
thinking with your heart is a bad idea. it opens you up to manipulation.
Besides are you expecting guys to stay virgins until they are 40? Good luck with that. There may be physical sexual problems if you do that.
of course not. men should experiment with prostitutes in their late teens, twenties and thirties and sow their oats before they settle down. burn through your hormones while you have them! i'm suggesting men should only marry virgin women! in fact, the bible i wrote doesn't recognize marriage unless the woman is a virgin. if the woman is not a virgin, she is reduced to the status of concubine, and only then if her first master has cast her aside and relinquished his claim on her body.
How about becoming friends and dating before you get into a serious relationship so you know what your getting into? Sound a bit more sensible? Get over your anger towards women first though.~peace
what i have said is perfectly sensible and is a revelation given to me by the great spirit that carries the waters. he has shown me these things that i may bring his word to all my brethren so that we may all share in the power and glory of the highest and mightiest, and usher in the holy age!
What happens
when you get some diseases from said prostitute or get said prostitute pregnant and she makes you pay child support?
Furthermore it is hypocritical to expect the girl to be a virgin when you have been playing the whore yourself with whores.
Anyhow when I get married I will be a virgin! And I am a 23 year old guy right now, with no intintion of marrying in the near future. And in my opinion if you want a girl that wont leave you find one that can pray, and you will be all right, in that department.
What happens when you get
What happens when you get some diseases from said prostitute or get
I would hope you get your diseases from your government eugenics office like you're supposed to.
said prostitute pregnant and she makes you pay child support?
Wear a rubber, get a vasectomy, bribe/coerce her into an abortion, have her disappear, move out of the country, use lawyers to deny the child is yours.. there are unlimited ways to get out of paying for an unwanted child. On the other hand, you could just pay for the child. Child support is cheap if you know how to hide your fortune from pesky little judges and their pesky little courts.
Any decent prostitute would ensure she can't get pregnant, or at least have her accountant factor in abortion costs to her GFE fees. Her moneymaker is her most valuable asset. She cannot afford to have it out of commission for a year while she adds an unwanted consumptive liability to her life. This is just good business sense!
Furthermore it is hypocritical to expect the girl to be a virgin when you have been playing the whore yourself with whores.
It is not hypocritical. I am a sexist. This is a male dominated world, and since men do not have hymens, there is no such thing as a male virgin.
Furthermore, a man is not limited in his ability to procreate. He can have unlimited numbers of children. Women do not have this ability (aside from a few r-selected specimens in the news) to create healthy offspring indefinitely; they have to be a little more choosy with their mates. As maternity is easily determined, and paternity is not, a man should demand absolute loyalty from any woman he expends his time and resources on.
Anyhow when I get married I will be a virgin!
There is no such thing as a male virgin. See above.
And I am a 23 year old guy right now, with no intintion of marrying in the near future.
As you have demonstrated a capacity for thought above and beyond that of the masses, you may have no need to be enslaved by institutions, and marriage might be beneath you.
If that is the case, then you also are evolved enough to know why the masses need to be enslaved by institutions and will not speak out against them.
At the age of 23 you have no business getting involved with women (aside from the occasional prostitute). The best advice is for you to work, build a fortune, wait until you are 40, and then find an attractive young female of firm and tender constitution at breeding age to bear your heirs, provided she is from good stock herself!
And in my opinion if you want a girl that wont leave you find one that can pray, and you will be all right, in that department.
Indeed you are correct. A woman's mind is more driven by emotion than by logic. It is preferable that emotionally driven people be kept in their proper place with superstitious institutions, lest society completely degrade into a huge mass of shit.
It is difficult to rationalize with an angry woman....
(or man) but, I'll try...you say "a man is usually more of a physical threat to a woman than she is to him", check this out...http://www.csulb.edu/~mfiebert/assault.htm
If you felt that you needed to kill your ex...you probably had a bad marriage and should have gotten a divorce but, usually it take two to tango....and we would be communicating from your jail cell..and no I am not suggesting men stay virgins....but, there is no need or benefit in marrying.....Lastly, I think the old song and dance mating ritual between men and women is over....the kids today just aren't marrying and they shouldn't.....It is high time the pendulum swings in a different direction. Now that women have gotten what they want...you have to take it.....good with the bad.
When you accept government to enforce your will, it can and usually does back fire on you.....
¡leche libre!
why buy the cow when the milk is free?
in thailand, you can get two cute little submissive asian girls for the night for twenty five bucks. they cook you dinner, give you a bath, a nice massage, they keep you company all night (they're killers at scrabble!), and they cook you breakfast before they leave.
much cheaper than a wife!
Ahhhh, Jeff....
You bring back many fond memories. I can still remember my first "steam and cream" in Saigon. Got the works for a broken $5 Timex. Wasn't a virgin but, close enough.....
that's ok, virginity is only
that's ok, virginity is only a prerequisite for marriage, and only then for women. fornication with prostitutes is still considered holy, provided you don't get a disease.
Well siad, Jeff....
I was waiting for you to show up...
somebody's gotta dole out
somebody's gotta dole out the fatherly advice to the young lads out there.
"The only thing I wanna hear after a hard day's work is 'Dinner ready, chirren in bed. You want boom boom first?'" -Jeff White
Bwaahhhaaa!!!!
:) I wuv yew too muchy...
i shall make you one of my
i shall make you one of my disciples then!
well... I am divorced and at
well...
I am divorced and at this point me and my ex have a good relationship and we both are able to spend alot of time with our daughters whether they are in her custody during the school year or mine during the summer.
My new girlfriend doesn't have any children and she has casually stated "I will never get married." I don't know what to think about this because even though I know the problems that are associated with marriage I still would like to be able to celebrate a 30 year anniversary or something like that some day. I really like her but am completely confused on what to do at this point.
Under the rules set up by the government, as a man...
there is no real advantage in marriage for you. If your girlfriend doesn't want to marry...I would say "what a great find." If you are concerned about celebrating something...celebrate the summer solstice, or happy cat day, or Ronald MacDonalds birthday. Why worry about a thirty year anniversary? Now having said this...If you are fortunate to find a very rare pioneer woman who wants traditional marriage, believes in her promises to you, swears never to use the force of government to take your children away from you, believes in the PATERNAL family, then go right ahead. (My humble opinion).
Keep in mind that there are many women who make promises that they don't keep and will use the force of one sided laws and government to "win away" your children and property. As a man you will lose and you will PAY out the nose for children you can't have, alimony, boyfriends..oh, the list is endless.
If you don't PAY you will go to debtors prison (federal or state or county). One more thing...remember, marrying a girl doesn't make her your property. The reverse is more correct. :)
Men are suckers and fools...
When will we ever learn that the deck is stacked. Don't marry. Don't jump a woman without protection. The traditional marriage has been hijacked by the federal government (who has no authority for meddling in the family), for their own devious purposes which include lining the pockets of the divorce industry with stupidity like the VAWA and debtors prisons. Men are now second class citizens who have NO due process rights in divorce court or in this country but, I say fine...Let the women and the decrepit old geezers in D.C. fight the wars, dig the ditches, bust their asses on a freezing construction site. Yeah, you can have it....all.
And the women don't get away free either...those who are lying, gold digging, devious, demonic, family breaking wenches, (and you know who you are) deserve to wither in their old age alone and with the memory of having destroyed their own families. Your own children will hate you for what you have done. If you don't want to be a mother AND a WIFE then don't marry. Women don't assault men...yeah, right. I pray that you no longer do the bidding of the "immoral government" and refuse their "assistance" in jailing your man, and destroying your families.
don't marry? don't jump?
don't marry? don't jump? VAWA?
the Great Aquarius does not command submission to heresy!
the Great Aquarius commands WAR!!!
"Thou shalt make war against the children of thine enemies! The children shall write in pain and torment, and ye shall make their fathers watch until their sons can writhe no more. Only then shall ye hastily cut the throats of thine enemies, and ye shall extinguish their bloodline from this earth! Serve this shall as an example to all mankind, that my Sons shall be f***ed with not!
I command this of thee, my Sons, that ye shall rise up to the heavens, at the right hand of the Father, absent opposition or obstacle, evading vengeance and karma, and ye shall be as Gods!" -The Great Aquarius, as revealed to Jeff White
Damn Jeff. I want some of what you're smoking.....
Been a long time since I've heard so much babble make sense......:)
it's nothing i'm smoking. it
it's nothing i'm smoking. it is a revelation, given to me by God.
I hope you don't think all women are like what you have
described! I have been married to the same man for 38 years, and mothered our 6 children. I stayed at home to raise them, and homeschooled them. He is the boss, even though I do let him know my opinion. We have a traditional marriage. It has been tough many times, and we were poor most of our marriage because I stayed home, but our children are glad I did. Four of them are happily married, and 3 are doing the same, traditional marriages, with the wives staying at home, raising the children, and homeschooling them. The last two of mine are still at home, (teens), and plan to do the same. Take a look at Ron Paul and his wife and family. They did the same. There are a lot of families like us, who are willing to sacrifice money for family, especially the homeschoolers. Now that most of my children are grown, I have a part time home business, but being part time, it doesn't affect our marriage. Yes, it has been tough, money wise, but I have no regrets. And yes, I agree that there are women who don't want to do this, but don't you think that there are men who want their wives to work, and have a career because they want more money? Women can't be superwomen, able to have a career and do it well along with being a mom/wife and do that well too.
It's a tough job
with no pay but many rewards. It would be nice if all families could be real families without so much financial sacrifice. The worst part of being a stay at home mom that homeschooled my kids (Yes me too) is the lack of respect from others. People look down on me because I don't work. LOL. They don't think raising children is work? Then why do they pay for daycare? I have met a couple of women who admit they have to work because staying home with the kids is too hard. Working is much easier.
But c'mon guys, you sound pretty bitter and wanting a mail order bride (slave) is a bit sick IMO. Make you seem a little lazy and hard up. There are good women out there. Are you willing to support a stay at home mom and the kids? It costs as much or more than child support. Probably more. And your mail order bride can turn around and bite you in the butt too. Even if you don't marry the fact that you brought a foriegn young women into your home for a "partner" will likely give here some rights to your property if the coupling doesn't work. Love and trust is a better option. It doesn't always work out but I believe it is your best bet. You must be willing to tolerate each others dreams and flaws. You can't own another human being. How could you respect a woman who is only with you for your satisfaction and nothing more? That is a harlet. Paid for your satifaction? I feel bad for you. We all get hurt but you have to heal and hope for love to return again. Your heart can be broken and you should support your kids wether the law/government is involved or not. And be glad to do so. If you care about your kids you should treat thier mother well for thier benefit. If she is a b**** it could be because you are being angry. It's possible she is just a b**** but usually there is a reason. It usually takes 2 to create conflict.
I have been married to the same woman...
for over 30 years myself. You are the kind of "pioneer" woman that my own wife and mother both are. My rant is not for you and women like you. It is for the other 95% who use the force of government and it's biased, unfair laws to destroy families and fool women. I have no respect for them and I continue to urge young men to refuse marriage with such harlots.
i agree, there are good
i agree, there are good marriagable women, but they're so few and far between in the west, it's like looking for a needle in a haystack.
all i ask is a pleasant, beautiful virgin who doesn't feel a need to toil for money. this is not to be had in america, especially when the fembots are hard at work assimilating them all into the collective. even if i were to find what i am looking for, who is to say she wouldn't at some point become fat, nasty and crazy, or run off and try to take half of what i alone have built?
"My Son, do not want what you cannot have." -The Great Aquarius revealed to Jeff White
I agree, as a wife and mother...
I freely admit that my husband is just as loving, capable, and interested in the well-being of our children as I am. I think too many great guys get the shaft because of bad laws.
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Libera me, let the truth break, what my fears make--Leslie Phillips
There is no God who condones taking the life of an innocent human being. (but I want you to pay for it, like it or not!) --Barack Obama at the National Prayer Breakfast
in the coming holy age, all
in the coming holy age, all shall be set right, and such laws shall be laws no more.
Let me hear more, all mighty Jeff....
I think Nystrom is in Taiwan....
harlots...
hahaha
haven't heard that word in a while.
You're right Anni...
Harlot is a bad choice of words and too harsh...how about..."contumacious Lamia?"
i liked mad magazine's PC
i liked mad magazine's PC description: "self contained gratification dispenser"
You are exactly...
...right that the "force of government" is at the heart of this problem. The 209a's are a very well-funded legal club used to destroy familes and rob men of their children.