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Maddow on Obama's "Indefinite Detention" & Unconstitutional Power Grab

A good account of Obama's latest speech and the ongoing, unbroken Executive power grab.

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The entire FDR playbook.

The man is not only repeating all of FDR's economic mistakes, he's ready to incarcerate people without trial, as FDR did to the Japanese-Americans.

I know that there are a bunch of people looking for grounds to impeach him. There it is.

-jcr

"The problem with trying to child-proof the world, is that it makes people neglect the far more important task of world-proofing the child." -- Hugh Daniel

The people can't even make him show his ID.

What are the chances that they would be able to Impeach him ?
Look at everything Bush/Cheney did and Impeachment wasn't an option. Slaves can't tell anyone to do anything.

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It IS happening here

Almost six weeks ago in Keene, New Hampshire, Videographer Sam Dodson was filming in the district court lobby. He was arrested and went limp (in the classic "I will not assist you" mode). He did not provide his name asserting his (supposed) right to remain silent. He has been denied due process and has not been able to go before the court.
Many writs of habeas corpus have been filed up to the New Hampshire supreme court, all to no avail. Wiki defines it as "You (shall) have the body[1]) is a legal action, or writ, through which a person can seek relief from the unlawful detention of him or herself, or of another person. It protects the individual from harming him or herself, or from being harmed by the judicial system. The writ of habeas corpus has historically been an important instrument for the safeguarding of individual freedom against arbitrary state action."
Sam is in limbo, in fact the judge is hinting around about his "competency" to stand trail. So, in a classic tyrannical move, they may cover themselves by finding a quack to deem him incompetent and lock him away in a hospital for God knows how long. Sam is an activist with the Free State Project, not a dangerous criminal.
Check out Sam's plight here http://freesamdodson.com/
Thanks

Has he eaten yet?

On what grounds are they holding him? Does he have a lawyer? I'm sorry I don't have time to comb through his website for the answers- just wondering if you can give me a quick answer.

Banana Republic

USA

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"Freedom is always the freedom of dissenters"
Rosa Luxemburg

This is why we need to vote 3rd Party

Obama speaks intelligently but is passing along bs. Get him out of office!

www.Vote3rdPartynow.org

He's reading !!! how would it not appear intelligent ?

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Good piece.

Rachel really put it in perspective. And I'm glad to see some people from the left are openly criticizing the President.

Testing America's Reaction to Openly Violating Constitution?


It seems to be going well so far - I haven't heard of any protests or upset.

Is a poll coming?


Ron Paul's Convention Speech

Even here at the Daily Paul

I'm surprised that nothing is happening. No activism being planned whatsoever, even though, according to an eyewitness at a debriefing in the White House, Obama was not really thinking about Guantanamo but SOMEONE ELSE:

"The other participant said Mr. Obama did not seem to be thinking about preventive detention for terrorism suspects now held at Guantánamo Bay, but rather for those captured in the future, in settings other than a legitimate battlefield like Afghanistan."
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/21/us/politics/21obama.html

THIS COULD MEAN US!!!!

Obama and Churchill

He did quote Churchill for the benefit of his position against Cheney and torture. Okay, maybe this was just another distraction...

Now the pieces of the puzzle

Now the pieces of the puzzle are starting to fit. Look: Indefinite Detention, Forced Triple Vaccination, FEMA coffins. All I have to say is that somebody is damned desperate to beat us because we're finally beating them at their game! AMERIKKKA here we come. :(

I just can't take

Obama serious.
When he speaks is it like watching someone watching a tennis match.
When he tries to look statesmanish I just think "bad acting job"
And when he talks about the constitution I think "natural born citizen"
What a joke.

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"Freedom is always the freedom of dissenters."
Rosa Luxemburg

It would be funny if it weren't so maddening.

(maybe we will find the humor in it later, like 2012?)
I like your tagline ,too.
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Libera me, let the truth break, what my fears make--Leslie Phillips

What's next after End the Fed? Repeal the XVI and XVII Amendments!

Consecrate the fiftieth year and proclaim liberty throughout all the land to all its inhabitants! Leviticus 20:5

about my tagline

This truth is usually demanded by the opposition.
But when they get in power it is forgotten.
Obama being the perfect example of this hypocrocy.
A true freedom fighter will always respect the freedom of dissenters.
I can only think of one man who is a true freedom fighter, Ron Paul.

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"Freedom is always the freedom of dissenters"
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We need to get on Congress about this immediately, so that they

"don't pass this law in the future". Sorry, but the Obamanator does not fool us with his forked-tongue repetitive circular triple-speak.

Debbie

wow.

after seeing an earlier interview of her's with a guy...oh...i can't remember....her was a professor of something and it was posted here a few weeks back.....

this is very different from that other one.she was practically
deleted for inappropriate sexual content. ~ Mod
on the other one.

fast youtube follow up on the interview

If I didn't like her before,

I kinda like her now.

Guess we're next.. Once he forms this committee they can lock

us all up..

If you wont fight for the right when you can easily win...you may...have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance for survival [or] when there is no chance of victory...it's better to perish than to live as slaves.
W.Churchill

"Why am I here?" "Because we said so."

"How long will I stay?" "As long as it takes."

Welcome to America.

No trial, no lawyers, no phone call, no family.."

We think you might be a threat to Obama, the administration, and America's Democracy..

If you wont fight for the right when you can easily win...you may...have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance for survival [or] when there is no chance of victory...it's better to perish than to live as slaves.
W.Churchill

Yeah..."Democracy"

It's about throwing lots of innocent people in jail forever, to protect our free society!

This really is the spookiest thing I've ever heard

and it's very hard to get details about who Obama is planning to detain. Obviously he already has people slated for this Nazi treatment; however, he made it clear that he's not talking about Guantanamo or a Afghanistan or people who would show up on a battlefield.

Who is he planning to detain?

Rep. Peter King is saying some non-felon, non-criminals in America are "Dangerous Terrorists" and trying to disarm them. Obviously they are not really dangerous terrorists or they would have been jailed or deported. Is the government now calling anyone it is suspicious of a"Dangerous Terrrorist"? What is the criteria to be considered a "Dangerous Terrorist," if a person doesn't have to be either dangerous or a terrorist to qualify for that designation?

Perhaps everyone targeted in the Right-Wing Extremism report is not only a "Right-Wing Extremist" but a "Dangerous Terrorist"? All this rather groundless and escalating name-calling is eerie and suggests that people are being sorted. Sorted for what purpose? Indefinite detainment?

In other words, friends....will we meet in the Gulag after all??

Does that unthinkable, nightmare scenario sound as possible to you to you as it sounds to me?

Even if we are in no wise the target (yet) for our essentially benign political leanings, is it even worth being an American and enjoying all the privileges and securities of this nation, if that security requires keeping massive numbers of innocent people behind bars and killing others, like all the brutal regimes of the past century? If we have to remain cold-hearted and oblivious in order to enjoy the higher standard of living available to us???

I don't think so. It's unconscionable.

Who will they detain ? Anyone who doesn't kiss their boots.

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Or contemplated not kissing their boots.

They have to stop the trouble BEFORE it begins.

The media created Obama in the first place

So aren't they responsible for the abuses they're now reporting ?

Funny how the media ignores all the negatives about a candidate when accepting money for campaign ads from the richer of 2 evils.

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"To the mind that is still the whole universe surrenders" - Lao Tzu

Winston Churchill:

 
 

"The power of the Executive to cast a man into prison
without formulating any charge known to the law, and
particularly to deny him the judgment of his peers,
is in the highest degree odious and is the foundation
of all totalitarian government whether Nazi or Communist."
 
 

http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/quote/winston_churchill_quote_...

Correct me if I'm wrong El

Correct me if I'm wrong El Buggo, but didn't Churchill, while he was still a Tory MP in the House of Commons, speak out against the NWO at the time? And he was laughed at?

I dont know, defe07

Can this be the reason why Obama insisted on removing Winston Churchill's statue from the Whitehouse?

Yeah, he sent Churchill's statue back to Britain

I had the same thought after reading that quote. It was one of the first things he did when he moved in! Eerie!

Meet the new boss....

...same as the old boss....

*****The Federal Reserve is neither.*****

I'd say worse than old boss.

Bush didn't the charisma/hypnosis-quality. of obama, which makes obama like Hitler, much more dangerous than Bush.

Definitely

The Obama CULT is very troubling.

Olbermann attacked Obama for

Olbermann attacked Obama for not prosecuting torturers. Interesting moves by MSNBC. The only true lapdog there is Matthews.

Ventura 2012

deep sigh

This is one of those times. I'm KO'd The power of words. Wow. I can't believe what I just saw. I don't want to believe what I just saw. I don't like what I just saw.

I believe I just watched the funeral for the US Constitution

We are a minority

If we are going to build consensus to restore freedom to our nation, we need to ally ourselves with honest members of the left like Glenn Greenwald and Rachel Maddow. Calling them names and demeaning them because we don't agree with them on everything is shortsighted, nasty, and unproductive.

good point

godwhacker

she's still a putz

in my eyes. two examples of truth doesn't make her a good guy.

"The two weakest arguments for any issue on the House floor are moral and constitutional"
Ron Paul

I have listened to Maddow

for over a year & she's one of the fairest reporters & is sharp enough & concerned enough, to get into politicial details.. (or taking a look at the devil)

I believe Tucker Carlson is her personal friend & got her into the MSNBC orbit.

Independent reporting

This is the first time in a while I have actually seen a reporter tear a speech apart. Thank God. I'm not a religious person, but this type of real journalism could change my mind.

I hate rude behavior in a man. Won't tolerate it.

"Thank god I'm not a religious person" :)

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Wait. What's Really Going on Here?

Good Question..

Something doesn't add up here. She's dead on, and I'll give her credit for that, but why is she being allowed to report like this? Maybe because not many people watch MSNBC :)

"The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money."

-Alexis de Tocqueville

I can't believe

MSNBC allowed this. They are sooooooooooooo Obama.

Ron Paul for POTUS 2012
*****Obama Is A Communist!*****

***********Ron Paul for POTUS 2012***********
*************Obama Is A Communist!************
**********Repeal the 17th Amendment**********
Double the size of the House of Representatives
$$$$$$$$$AUDIT THE FEDERAL RESERVE$$$$$$$$$$

Obama: what a massive hypocrite.

Good job, Maddow. Good to see Obama's forked tongue and hypocrisy exposed on national TV.

Someone commented regarding they think some Dems are waking up to the nightmare of the Obama admin. Maybe some, but I check into that rabid Dem rag "The Daily Kos" from time to time to see how Dem people are thinking.

Unless I missed it, it just looks like those folks are sinking deeper and deeper into denial, and just about every thread is a psychosis induced verbal vomit of excuse-making and justification for Obama's obvious hypocrisy, and his breaking almost every campaign promise. Y'know like, "Obama didn't really break his promises and is acting exactly like Bush, because, if you look at it this way... blah blah blah blah...." or something like "it's all just a Liberal/Rep media smear campaign against our messiah", etc.,etc.

Those folks at the Daily Kos are sick-sick-sick.

“Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost.” -- John Quincy Adams

“Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost.” -- John Quincy Adams

Lou Dobbs

I agree with you 100% when it comes to Lou Dobbs. The guy is a protectionist and generally not very smart. I especially hate how he always precedes the word "China" with "Communist." Funny, cuz as China is rapidly and increasingly discarding the tired and falacious communist model, our brilliant "economists" in this country are screaming from the highest mountain tops that we need to adopt communism in order to "save capitalism."