Ron Paul 2012: What will we do differently?
If the good Dr. runs in 2012, I'm pondering what we as a movement will do differently this time around.
- Dealing with the MSM or blackout thereof
- Marketing
- Dealing with the neocons (Hannity, Limbaugh included)
- Our own Media
- Tea parties, etc
Obviously this economic crisis makes the Dr. look like a brilliant man; he also has integrity. But what irks me is that we may not learn from all the mistakes that were made in 2008. I'm concerned that if we don't learn from our own history and mistakes, we are again doomed to repeat it.
I'm looking for comments here. I'd like to make a list and post it somewhere. I've noticed comments about the straw polls in 3 states being the key to the election. This was the mustard seed that made me think. We have to overcome many obstacles to succeed.
Please comment
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Are we going to just assume that the electronic voting system
currently in place will be honest in the vote counts? We really need to push to get paper ballots in all 50 states. If ever there would be an election to rig it would be Ron Paul '12.
We need to join the GOP today
As repugnant as that sounds, we need to take over the Central Committees today. So that by the time 2012 rolls around, we will be in control of the party.
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yup
Thats EXACTLY what RP has in mind when he talks about party reformation.
100% AGREED!
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Why throw mud in the water?
Why take a pure political doctrine (Freedom and the Constitution), and throw it in the muddy pot of the Republican Party? Some quick facts to consider:
1. The number of independents (belonging to no political party) is at an all time high. This means that SOME of these independents USED to be Republicans but have left.
2. To a great number of Democrats, "Republican" is a repulsive term. Why burden the movement by the deliberate adoption of that term?
3. The Republican Party is controlled by the banking cartel, and is simply a separate marketing initiative from their Democratic Party. Therefore, the Republican Party will not be allowed by their owners to achieve much in any initiative that is generally contrary to their overall mission. Freedom and the Constitution are anathema to their mission. Therefore, the association with the Republican Party is the death of the movement.
4. The GOP has a great amount of inertia, which you would be strapping around your leg like a ball and chain. If you want the average "Republican" to abandon party standards such as big government, the Patriot Act, preventive war, world dominion, etc., you work against yourself by calling yourself a Republican, because all these things and more are PILLARS in the typical Republican platform.
5. And Democrats know #4, too. So good luck telling your Democrat friends, "Hey, I'm a Republican, but I'm not like all the other Republicans, so you should vote for me." Good luck getting them to trust you. They'll be wondering, "If you're so opposed to the Republican platform, why are you in that party?" And this just happens to be my sole question for the Doctors Paul.
No matter the perceived advantages of such a strategy, it is compromised and doomed from the beginning.
Why not simply acknowledge that this political doctrine is indeed quite "radical" when compared to that of the major parties----so much different as to be worthy of its own definition, and to be distinguished from the others?
The idea of "being in control of the Republican Party" doesn't even sound good. It sounds aggressive and authoritarian, does it not? Doesn't it smack of making the party do what you want it to do, even though many members will hate those actions?
So why cause severe division in a party that is already desparately corrupt? Why not pull out and let it rot in its corruption, while you go about the business of national reform unencumbered by party alliances?
Jack Pelham
Rule of Law Revolution
www.ruleoflawrevolution.c...
Why not?
You make excellent points Jack.
Reminds me of the first time I walked up to a peace protest with a stack of Ron Paul slim jims. I asked out loudly, "Anyone here know Ron Paul?" The group went, "Nooooo?" and a voice from the back said, "He's a Republican!" To which half the group poised to beat me with their peace signs and the other half ran around the building as if the person had said, "Bomb!". The group immediately left the area leaving me with a truther offering me a DVD of Loose Change. It appeared he was as big a hit with the group as I was.
Republican is NOT a good word, and here, I just found out where the district GOP chair was during the election... I was wondering why no one in the area was contacted about being a delagate... he, Kenny Rodgers, was in jail for hirering a hit man that missed. He's in trial now, and it named him as the chair of the county GOP. The GOP here back Democrats as the conservatives over the greens.
Meanwhile, the active GOP are in place to assure, Republicans do what Arnold dictates. The Republicans are asking us to vote for raising license fees, toll fees, electric fees, .. hidden taxes taxes taxes...
I believe the GOP is going to rip off as many RP Republicans as they can, and bail out of the party.. they will take the Indy ticket.. Palin is gearing for that... a number are... and that will put Ron Paul Republicans in what will be less than a third party... while the Indy's soar.. with their Keynesian global government NWO.
Now if we could only make that Indy a party for Mises...eh?
I don't see a need for ANY party....
...much less, a new one.
Why can't the liberty/Constitution movement stand on its own merit without having to adopt and to feed a new party corporation?
"Party" is also part of the problem in this ugly picture. Party takes on an identity of its own, and does not truly represent ANYONE who subscribes to it. Therefore, party is all about the compromise of a great number principles in return for the promise of success in a very small subset of those principles.
Further, when one says, "I'm a Demublican", he has to take the good with the bad. That is, he likes the "fiscally responsible" part, but in order to get that, he has to support the *preventive war* part. Why? Because both are part of the party's platform.
And so it is with Mises. While the economics are sound, there are legitimate differences on the anarchy/minarchy spectrum. And those differences are enough to be showstoppers for certain people---no matter which way a new party would decide to go.
So why do we have to bundle together ALL our political doctrines into one party package?
Rather, I propose a circumpartisan approach whereby we restore the Constitution (as written) to regular practice-----with no other strings attached. If anarchists like that because it is at least a step in the right direction, then let them support it. And if minarchists like it because it is the best and fullest reform they can imagine, then let them support it. And if Republicans like it because it gets rid of socialism, then let them support it. And if Democrats like it because it gets rid of most wars, then let them support it. Etc.
One reason that "party" is such a strong force in American culture is that there's really big money in political parties. That partly explains why starting a new party is so quick to come up in any discussion. Just like starting a new cola, you (generic--not Granger) don't want just part of a cola drinker's loyalty; you want it all. You want him to stop buying 500 Cokes a year and to buy 500 of your new colas instead. And why? Because you're in it for the money.
But look at the political reality for Joe American. Even though he may claim a party affiliation, in actuality, he holds tenets from several parties. He heard a Republicrat make a really good argument on this one thing, and a Demublican make a good point on this other thing, and a Constitarian guy say something really smart on a third topic. Joe American is NOT, therefore, fully represented in his opinions by ANY party. The party system is simply unreal---forcing people to compromise their principles by making them prioritize those principles.
And when we announce that we are initiating Party X, won't the average American take the advent of the newcomer party as a divisive challenge? Won't he view it as an either/or, this-or-that proposition?
But that's probably not the best way to serve the nation. What if we said instead, "Calling members of all parties-----here's an alternative political philosophy that deserves your attention and support.".... If that is the call, then it is NOT nearly as incendiary in nature, and is probably more likely to get them paying attention than summarily dismissing a new party without a hearing.
And while I personally wouldn't do it, this leaves room for candidates who support the principles to run as Demublicans or Republicrats or Constitarians (or as independents---which is what I would do). But if some candidate is in a strong Demublican state and thinks his best shot is to run as a Demublican with the new philosophy, then he or she can take that risk
This is the high-minded way in which I see it. America, however, is not very high minded, and it much more apt to go for a new party---even if it hurts itself by so doing!
Jack Pelham
Rule of Law Revolution
www.ruleoflawrevolution.c...
I don't disagree Jack
Thank you for taking the time o respond.
I learned much about ballot access and campaign laws helping Nader's ballot access.
I appreciate nader keeping the Indy option alive.
The hard part is getting ballot access, but there are professional groups and a 40% registration. An Indy can write their own rules.. Nader gave me my papers to be an electoral voter, and I went through the process, having my vote noterized, sent to sacremento.. I would have to have spent many years in a party to get that opportunity and insight.
I'm very curious to see what the outcome of the NJ campaign for Daggett does because that's being brought to we the people by Bill Hillsman, who is establishing an Indy movement, Daggett is the first candiate.
I also think the GOP, Palin, Lieberman... are planning to do this with Arnold Schawrtzenegger's desire to be president. Obama is not doing well.. I've heard him on twice today and he sounds doped up on coke.
I think Obama is going to crash. I hope I'm wrong, but he doesn't sound healthy.
Study Obamas Campaign First!
Why did Obama win? That's the first question everyone should ask. What he did was organize people better from the start. This article explains partly what they did:
http://www.wired.com/thre...
First and foremost we should the same. Create a central community, a place where all Ron Paul people get together and can divide tasks based around strengths.
Possibly forming a "Camp Obama" in a similar fashion would be great. But this sort of thing would best be done directly by Pauls campaign so that there wouldn't be any fragmentation of different Ron Paul web sites.
Fragmentation is probably our major weakness, and while some think this is good "anarchists" - as the article will explain, lone wolves burn out quickly while groups have staying power.
Look sharp.dress up a bit. Go to town hall meetings with some
handouts. call your local republican and start having your voice heard. go to democratic club meetings and talk about liberty and freedom.go to google and print ron paul 2012 signs. get creative with it. buy some political signs. hang a bed sheet over an overpass with Ron paul was right! on it. add some liberty to your facebook. start today,.
Wasted Effort: "The Resolutions Are A Lesson In Futility!"
This last election was the first time I became involved in politics, thanks to Dr. Paul and a very cool JBS member.
Primary Night: My wife and I were selected as delegates, to go to county. Republicans were outnumbered by Democrats 8 to 1 (at least).
Many decent old ladies supporting Huckster offered several resolutions for the party platform, to be submitted for approval at County.
Next: Received a phone call from the County Republican Chairman, who informed me that the 'message' came from 'above' to support McCain. He informed me that McCain was not his 1st, 2nd, nor 3rd choice... I argued with him for 10 minutes, as he ended with the comment that it was 'out of his hands'... He resigned after the election...
County: Met with the different County Republican Committees, we were selected to go to State, as alternate delegates. Voted on resolutions to be taken to state.
State Convention: Dr. Paul bows out...
Later: Finally met Dr. Paul, spent 20 minutes with him. I asked why the people spend time writing up resolutions, voting on them from local to county, to state, to national, only to have the party throw out all resolutions, and write their own party platform.
Dr. Paul asked me if I thought that the President of the United States would actually follow the party platform, let alone the Constitution... "The resolutions are a lesson in futility!"
Care to comment Dr. Steve?
Waiting for 2012...
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Regarding Palin: I believe we are watching in real time the rise of the third party, which will be controlled by the powers that be from its' inception.
Next Scam: "Cash For Cash"
http://www.RonPaul2012.co...
When we rally/protest, dress up
We looked like children before.
Classic rhetoric uses three realms of persuasion to sell: logos (reasoning), ethos (emotion), and pathos (authority).
Ron Paul uses all three, but mostly logos...aka, he makes sense. Sure he's an authority on healthcare and economy, but his pathos just doesn't come across to the average ignorant American. Sure the content of what Ron Paul hits some of us emotionally, but only because we believe it...aka...we trust what Ron Paul says...and that goes back to a lack of authority (pathos).
Since, Ron Paul's logos was too strong, the fake-cons attacked Ron Paul primarily from a pathos angle and somewhat from an emotional angle. They simply ignored him/us or called him/us kooks.
So we need to help Ron Paul in ethos and pathos attack.
When we clumsily gather to chant some vague message wearing clothes that children wear, we look weak. Sorry if that hurts. War protesters do the same thing and they look weak.
Look at MLK Jr marches. They wore their best clothes. They marched like adults. They chanted like adults. And they won.
Why do you think executives and politicians spend gobs of money on their appearance? Why do uniforms work? Why are hand-written letters more effective than phone messages and emails? Because of pathos. It doesn't make intellectual sense, but it works. Perhaps it shouldn't work, but it works.
I'm thinking of opening up a
I'm thinking of opening up a clothing company that sells clothing specifically catered to the rally/protest crowd ;)
Just messing around, but I do agree with you that our perceived image matters. People should dress well so we look serious and professional.
Would you go to a job interview dressed in shorts, sandals, and a t shirt? Probably not...
Don't hide from the Republican convention this time
Don't hide from the Republican convention this time
Don't hide from the Republican convention this time
Don't hide from the Republican convention this time
Quality Advertising
I thought most all of the TV ads for the campaign were very poorly made and looked like cheap local commercials. They just seemed a little amateurish. So, they should spend more money, if need be, to get some well made TV ads.
And they should really start courting some of the celebrities for endorsements early. Get Chuck Norris, Vince Vaughn, John Mayer, John Mackey and any other well known personalities to start promoting OPENLY. Got to get them to commit, no half-assed, quiet endorsements, and get them to start talking Ron Paul.
And one more thing.I know it's Dr.Paul's nature, but they can't be so frugal. Don't be afraid to spend your campaign cash. If you spend it and more people are exposed to Ron Paul, then more money comes in as new donations.
Everyone knows he will need a lot of FRN's...or SDR's...or whatever..
that's my 2 non-copper penny's worth.
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I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy
The Ron Paul campaign
The Ron Paul campaign doesn't need to spend any money on developing a TV commercial because they can get a bunch of AMAZING free user generated material.
Remember the "Rising Tide" commercial on YouTube? Or the the 3Liberty videos?
The supporters are way more creative than any cheesy political marketing company out there...
The only money the RP campaign should spend is on buying lots of air time for all the amazing user generated content they receive.
I still think the campaign ads were bad
You're right, some of those videos made by supporters were very good.But the campaign didn't really use them.
The Campaign should have a consistent look, something that is cohesive. Classy ads with Dr.Paul stating the issues and his solutions. They don't have to be fancy, just high quality. Good lighting and sound, and quality film and camera work.
There is a lot of psychology to marketing to the masses. I just think we should take advantage of it. Every other campaign will be. Remember, we are not trying to appeal to those who already support Ron Paul. We want/need the everyday, MSM listening, voter to come around. The marketing for Dr. Paul should focus on his Consistency and grasp of the issues. They should be steadfast, yet calm and reassuring. The negative labels of the past will be the hardest thing for the campaign to overcome.
During the primaries, anytime one wanted to discredit Dr.Paul they just pointed out "the newsletters"...he's a racist. Racism is almost always an ace in the hole. Or "isolationist", but the racist claim sticks easier because it has the weight of political correctness behind it. You HAVE to be against him or that means that YOU are a racist too.It's a lame argument, and totally untrue, but they will use it again I guarauntee it.
As I said,I love the supporter made videos, but I don't think you can mount a good marketing strategy with a bunch of videos made by a bunch of different people. It will leave voters feeling scattered. The campaign must have a consistent look. It instills confidence. It's one of the strongest parts of the campaign that Obama waged. His "Hope" campaign success is undeniable...he won. And his marketing strategy was a big reason.
And as the 2012 election season rolls closer, (it is just my opinion, and obviously people are free to use any language they want) I'd like to see the campaign talk less about "revolution" and more about "liberty" , "freedom" and "solutions". Your everyday voter may not be as excited about, or comfortable with, being part of any revolution... like some of us. But being part of the "solution" and helping to give us all "freedom", well, that's pretty easy to get behind.
Again, just my 2 cents.
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I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy
Avaroth and some of the others deserve mention as well.
I agree entirely.
-I favor extending to Israel the same honest friendship that Jefferson and the Founding Fathers urged us to offer to all nations. ...This means I also favor discontinuing foreign aid to governments that are actual or potential enemies of Israel,--Ron Paul
The Ron Paul campaign should
The Ron Paul campaign should use user generated content for their TV, Radio, and print advertising.
The Ron Paul campaign staff did a terrible job with those three forms of marketing while the Ron Paul supporters made some of the most creative work I've ever seen.
Correct; make commercials a cycled C4L contest
It should be a clear national contest, advertised either at the beginning or end of the commercial for that interval's winner. New winners (who would get some kind of prize?) could be picked (and aired) bi/weekly/monthly, for a consistently new cycle of content.
"I'm Dr. Paul, and I approve this great video message [Billy Jones from Texas] made for me and our Campaign for Liberty"...
maybe an end mention of the prize could incentivize others (who might just want the prize) to research Dr. Paul and be wowed...
Exactly!
I'm sure there are lots of aspiring film makers that would love to put that on their resume...
First things first. We need a blimp.
Ron Paul is my President.
More TV coverage!
I think we need our own media team to produce quality commercials and air them on small local networks all the time every where. They don’t even have to be about Ron Paul; just get our common sense ideas out there in peoples homes early.
We could use chip-ins to pay this media team full time and also buy our air time.
We have the attention of the people on the internet but we need to communicate with those who do not get their information from the internet.
Also I think we need to get meet-up going again so we have that strong network of communications working across the country.
well... I'm graduating from
well... I'm graduating from college in May 2011, at which point, if he's running, maybe I'll be full time volunteer....
I posted this as a new post but here may be a better home for it
Most powerful salvo to-date... could she be RP’s 2012 running mate...?
She’s also MD as our RP... MD turned freedom activist... if she is the one writing her speeches - she does it very well... issues are pointed to and the answers given... if she has a speech writer, she delivers them almost with the eye bull’s accuracy... she can move the masses...
Still young though... letting her mischievous and child-like joy of life to show up on the public arena in not the most appropriate moments... ie: mixing a body language of a happy Oscar winner... into the very serious and grave topic of her talk...
But with more experience, control and practice... I trust her body language will paint pictures in the minds of masses in tandem with the topic of her speech...
We-The-People of RP rEVOLution... the grass roots movement that keeps the fire going, need to reach those who are still asleep... and I think she can do it...
Have a look... listen... watch the video...
- What do you think...? could she help with opening peoples hearts, minds and eyes and bring them to rEVOLution...?
http://www.dailypaul.com/...
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
and here... learn about the Continental Congress 2009...
http://www.dailypaul.com/...
http://givemeliberty.org/
also... following the CC2009... work on bringing back the AoC...
http://www.dailypaul.com/...
Understanding the Constitutional Republic...
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
http://www.jbs.org/
Here is the Fall of the Republic...
http://www.jbs.org/news-c...
work with your We-The-People Sheriff... or, elect one...
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
http://www.dailypaul.com/...
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
more enlightment...
Barack Obama Worked For The CIA - John Pilger...
http://www.dailypaul.com/...
Will our ‘leaders’ ever acknowledge and apologize for the genocide of our First Nations people...? or Chinese ‘slaves’ building the Canadian Railway...?
“Memory of National Tragedies is as Sacred as the Memory of Victories” Video Blog... http://eng.kremlin.ru/sdo...
Focus on Pardoning People rather than Bailing Out Bank Corps
Debra Medina for Texas Governor 2010!
Rand Paul for US Senate in Kentucky!
Ron Paul 2012, Join or Die!
DONT TREAD ON ME
AN APPEAL TO HEAVEN - WASHINGTON'S CRUISERS
We are losing PCPs as I type, he needs to make a call NOW
Literally, people are learning the truth about politics and if they have much integrity, getting OUT. I went to a LOT of effort to get a LOT of people involved in politics, and they are resigning things like Secretary, Youth Committeeperson and District Chair seats.
My BIG complaint with CFL is that they never did anything with the PCPs that stepped up. Indeed, they set up a competing system. I am committed to serving the term I agreed to, but it does not set well with me. This government is a fraud, and now I participate knowingly in the fraud. I do not care for it. IF Dr. Paul wants to have liberty win the day, he needs to rally the troops NOW. And he needs to reach out to the peace and TRUTH movement. If he lets Beck (or anyone else) take one more "terrorist" pot shot at me, I am probably all done with him, too. He does not have to agree with me, but he damn well better step up and defend my right to have questions. I am going to end up in prison for being a "9-11 denier" if things continue down the current path. I sure won't be voting for him then, will I? Never again will I be able to vote for a liberty loving candidate... how convenient.
There, put that on a list before some moderator deletes it. Goodness knows we can't have any honest critique as part of the discussion here.
Agreed.
Debra Medina for Texas Governor 2010!
Rand Paul for US Senate in Kentucky!
Ron Paul 2012, Join or Die!
DONT TREAD ON ME
AN APPEAL TO HEAVEN - WASHINGTON'S CRUISERS
How
How do you suggest Ron Paul does this?
good question
but first and foremost the issue of election fraud needs to be adressed.
IF the game is rigged (and I think it is) than there is no point in debating strategies.
No legal challenges mounted last time - unbelievable!
You raise a good point. I was certain they must be "gathering evidence" for one BIG challenge at the end, when state after state was clearly BS. Nope. Nothing. Same people running the elections with the same equipment. WE have to have a person at every polling place that follows the process every inch of the way like the "Black Box" folks next time. Better yet, WITH the BB folks.
We need to focus more....
Of our energy offline, I think we got that pretty much locked up we need to take the message to the streets and neighborhoods...door to door....we really need to increase our numbers that is the bottom line....and I think that we MUST step up our fundraising...we need to be able to raise more money.....
Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God. I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty or give me death.”
– Patrick Henry, speech to the Virginia Convention
Bravoseis: I disagree
(in part) ;-)
Yes we need to take it to the streets.
However:
#1 We need to have our arguments down to be effective (the RP community has around 4 warring factions).
#2 Money - Lobbying - Voting has never worked once in recorded history and Obama kicked the ever-loving snot out of us once he got his stride going -- We are 3% of the vote with no united front. Also, voting-lobbying is pereptual-war -- can you have peace from "war," whether it be by the gun or ballot box? No!!
#3 We need to become Counter-Economist in our private lives. Never discuss it locally only discuss it over the internet -- so as not to get caught.
Octobox
agreed
But why does this seem to be so dang hard?
PLEASE go door to door
I have been around several times now. It did one good thing, if nothing else. My neighbors know me now, and know that I am harmless and up front about my politics.
Honest Elections
Paper ballots, hand count at precinct in full public view.
"Those who cast the votes decide nothing.
Those who count the votes decide everything."
Josef Stalin
I agree - Start Early
While the playing field is not crowded. People are mad as hell and ready to listen.
I know it's not in his nature but I wish Dr. Paul would hire a speech trainer to help him slow down and polish his presentation. That is the only chink in his armor!
Start Early
Start Now!
Hire a very good, slick PR firm
Despite the merits of the towering grassroots movement, most people are not savvy enough to manipulate Ron Paul into good press and media coverage. A good PR firm (i.e., expensive) can help get far more exposure and fair treatment for our guy.
This^
and also hire some slick political operatives that know the party tricks and can expose the other candidates when they pull them. I'm thinking of Romney stuffing ballots in Florida, and the outright rigging in New Hampshire + the Fox News debate RP was excluded from. We need someone like Carville - a real bastard.
Benton and the rest of the team that were supposedly running the campaign are totally ineffective and need to take their marching orders from someone that knows wtf they are doing.
Bill Hillsman has formed a new company
The new political ad company will be focusing on an Indy candidate and promises to produce the best political ads in political history. The team members, including Hillsman, have won huge awards...
My hope, is that candidate be Gary Johnston and I would like Ron Paul, Jesse Ventura and Ralph Nader to be backing the Indy.
It appears Hillsman was waiting for the national registration for "Decline To State Party" to reach 40%. GOP is at 18%.
This is interesting news
to me.
Very true
I hope Dr Paul announces soon on what he's going to do, so this idea gets serious attention at C4L. We got the boots and the more of them, the better. We just need a really super good media campaign now.
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People worldwide support Dr. Paul too :-)
http://www.pollingmatrix....
We need to do a lot of quality TV.
not just the web videos but major broadcast venues.
It will take a lot more money bombs to do it, but if
we can get the average Joe out in TV land to be exposed
to the message, who knows how much support we can get.
I will gladly volunteer my video services for the cause.
http://www.youtube.com/us...
Paper is cheap
GET PRINTING NOW, blanket your town squares, city corners, subways, schools, post offices, lampposts, with posters of Dr. Paul: his face, the philosophy, our future. Laminate them, clear-postal-tape them, duct tape them, make them weather-durable. Torn down? Do it again! Paper is cheap!
Before the atom bombs were dropped on Japan, the towns were blanketed with leaflets telling all inhabitants to flee.
Paper Bombs shall do the opposite: unite us around spreading the message of personal freedom.
2012 Strategy for Ron Paul
I posted this before on another thread, but I will repost here. These are my thoughts...
Ron Paul didn’t make it to the general election for one reason, many Independents that supported him were unable to vote for RP in the primary because they were not registered Republicans. We cannot allow this to happen again because the current leadership in the GOP is not willing to support him and are afraid of him. There is only one solution to this and that is members from the conservative-libertarian parties (ie Libertarian, Constitutional Parties, etc.) must put country before party and register to vote as a Republican before the primaries. We must make the Republican Party have no choice but to extend Ron Paul the nomination in 2012 because we will control the party though our powerful voting block. We have the ability to take over the Republican Party, it is currently fractured between RINOs and conservatives, and it is imperative we do this for our country and Ron Paul.
The point I am trying to make here is when a candidate like Paul (or other like minded individual) emerges in one of the two major parties, it doesn’t make a difference what party you belong to, it is in your best interest to register to vote in the major party that this candidate belongs to so he or she can make it through the primary into the general election…especially when our country is hanging by a thread like it is now. Republican, Democrats, Independents…it doesn’t make a difference, it seems logical to rally behind the candidate from the Republican or Democratic party that best supports your views in the primary because when it comes to the general election, the win will go to either a Democrat or Republican …especially in the presidential elections. Don’t get me wrong, the Independent Parties have put up some very good candidates, but people predominantly vote along Democrat and Republican Party lines in fear they will throw away their vote and then we end up with a very bad Republican or a very bad Democrat as president….not the cream of the crop of their parties.
As I see it, the best opportunity I can see for our collective conservative-libertarian alliance to work is to take control of Republican Party since it is the most divided, they still have conservative-libertarian candidates in the primary, and together we can use this party as a vehicle to put Ron Paul into office which shares our collective viewpoint. Jump in the party prior to the primary, but do not contribute a dime of your money to the Republican Party as long as the leadership of that party bashes our candidate, promotes views that compromise the Constitution, socialist agenda, or any other issues that compromises the coalition base issues…instead give your money directly to Ron Paul’s campaign on behalf of our massive coalition.
Also realize that by changing your registration to Republican forces their party to make changes to the platform to a place that is far closer to your overall viewpoint…those who control the party will determine the platform and choose the leadership. In doing so, this gives the independent parties an office holder that will be open to their views and creates greater opportunities for conservative-libertarian independent parties to take more seats in the future. I, as many people, am tired of getting the lesser of two evils of a leftist socialist Republican or a leftist socialist Democrat when it comes to the president elect. If you are an Independent, I hope you can agree with me and convince others in your party that the future of this country depends on your vote. Better yet, convince your leadership to endorse Ron Paul early on….chances are he could take someone from your party as a running mate.
I am confident that this will work; we can have Ron Paul as President of the U.S., and start reforming this country back to her Constitutional roots. Let’s get started…we have a lot of work to do before 2012.
people are waking up to Ron Paul.
I see it with co-workers and other former neocons who are seeing the beauty of real limited government versus more of the same. The Obamabots are loosing hope now too. He's more of the same if not worse and many co-workers are now convinced of this too. The Alex Jones videos are actually doing quite a job. I'll forward the youtube video's to anyone I speak with who has an interest in what's really happening.
With the war going on now for what.. 8 years? It's time to end the damned war as there isn't a strategy but to eek out more loot for the military industrial complex. Any moron can now see this clear as day if presented with the facts.
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Peace, Freedom and Prosperity. Not War, Welfare and Bankruptcy.
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2012 Ron Paul campaign - lets start a mini-campaign now
Just got it this morning =) - Ron Paul 2012 Bumper sticker
Early campaign kickoff
http://www.ronpaulrepubli...
People wanting to run as Ron Paul Republican candidates on his type of platform should join www.ronpaulrepublican.com and retakecongress.com.
Regardless of whether we win, we need to keep the dialogue going and people asking questions. The more people we wake up to the message of liberty the better chance we have of salvaging a republic here at home.
George Washington once said - "Liberty, when it begins to take root is a tree of rapid growth".
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weve got to get some Ron Paul republicans
elected in 2010.Rand ,Sheiff,RJ Harris and Medina we need to atleast get two if not all of them ,