Ohio man creates 110 mpg engine that cranks 400 horsepower. Production to start today 6/01/09. Where is GM????
Submitted by gavination on Mon, 06/01/2009 - 20:16
If GM was serious about recovering they would be all over this. I dont know why this isnt national or even world news.
Doug Pelmear, owner of www.HorsePowerSales.net Inc. and Hp2G LLC, will hold an open house Monday morning in the idle 100,000-square-foot factory he has leased in Wauseon to begin manufacturing his revolutionary engine.
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"Mr. Pelmear has said that
"Mr. Pelmear has said that he employs more precise tolerances and manufacturing techniques to decrease heat and energy loss and increase the efficiency of the internal combustion engine. He said he has more than quadrupled the industry average engine efficiency of about 8 percent."
He is a liar.
You know, you can buy a VW jetta TDi and get those HP numbers and about half the mpg numbers. Improve aerodynamics and you would be right there.
"more precise tolerances" is complete baloney.
So we should just take your word for it?
You're a liar. How's that. Indy cars can go 200 miles on a couple gallons of ethanol. because of the extremely close tolerances and light weight engine parts as well as the tuning. Who's to say this fella cant.
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" Indy cars can go 200 miles on a couple gallons " ?
What do you consider a couple of gallons ?
Like ... 40 ?
lol..
can I not poke fun too? I would like to see the claims myself about this guys car.
My friend races and I know quite a bit about race cars and the amount of fuel one can ingest. I was being sarcastic and name calling.. man it's tough to display it through a keyboard sometimes.
Other than than do you know how much funny cars can burn in a quarter mile?
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Well, they're good, but not quite that good.
They are getting 1/3 better with ethanol than they got with methanol fuel.
Current Indy car fuel mileage with ethanol is around 5-6 miles per gallon. They have 22 gallon fuel tanks.
Link:
http://www.fastmachines.com/irl/ethanol-racing-to-lead-indyc...
Check out this engine
Check out this engine instead:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4R1yw6yWzM
It is actually from an old German patent but he "tuned" it.
That would be awesome.
mighty yet tiny is a pretty
mighty yet tiny is a pretty cool lil engine design. it'd be the shiznit if it was suped up and put on a spitfire!
that is no kidding..
or my personal favorite...the fiat spider....probably to dangerous for me to have around.. :O)
same reason they didn't let Henry Ford make Hemp plastic
car bodies back in the day . It was too good of an idea .
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Well, I'm going to state the obvious here.
The Detroit automakers, Big Oil, and Uncle Sam are in bed with each other, like 'rub-a-dub-dub, three men in a tub'. Which is why the Detroit automakers killed the electric car (in full production in 1999), they have never attempted a car that burns bio-diesel, and in general, they have gone out of their way, in the past ten years, to push gas-guzzlers on the general public.
When a bump in the road with high fuel prices caused a catastrophic loss of sales for the purveyors of the gas-guzzling clunkers, the federal government (both administrations) quickly stepped in to "save" the Detroit gas guzzler companies with bailouts--even though the overwhelming public opinion was that they should die off instead, and be liquidated.
I would never expect a truly energy efficient car, or an alternate fuel car, to succeed in the American marketplace, because of the collusion of the three men in the tub--Uncle Sam, the Detroit automakers, and Big Oil.
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Then how do you explain...
Why Japan or some other country didn't do it, or why nobody has done it in their own garage, like this guy above. Is the whole world in bed together to keep the evil oil companies in business?
I expect that this engine will be very efficient, but in its efficient stage it will lack power.
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GM blew it!
They absolutely blew it! I'm keeping my eye on Tesla motors! I can't afford 50k, but if they get enough sales they will eventually be able to make lower cost EV's. Until then I will go with a with car that gets at least 35mpg or possibly a hybrid model, by the way has anyone noticed that gas has gone up!
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Tesla motors ftw.
and the really annoying thing is...
you're correct but it goes WAY further back .... the nwo folks suppressed totally kick @ss technology in the late 1800's.
i didn't connect the dots until recently.
my boss who is a former engineer, told me a story of the early electric cars and how it was almost impossible to get one ... while it was super easy to get a ford. at the time, i was like, well ... that was a dumb business move.
then i got to listening to ramtha's 'winds of change' talks and he talks about the greymen (that's what he calls the nwo --grey suits) and the technology they had available in the 1800s that they developed privately.
well, duh. it was intentionally hard to get an electric car. it was never to be successful.
Has anyone ever tried the
Has anyone ever tried the Hydrogen conversion kits? I know a person who did it to his 1999 Ford Tarus and have seen it. He says it increased his fuel mileage by 40-45%. The last time he brought into the service station to get it "smogged" for registration-liscence renewel, it barely registered anything, and the technician could not figure out what was wrong until he found out about the conversion!
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He isn't the first to break 100mpg
and there have been plenty of alternative systems from compressed air, to water as fuel.
He'll be dead inside of 6 months in all likelihood.
Tip - if you invent a way to avoid using low mileage cars and or convert your auto to run on something other than gasoline, E85 or diesel - don't tell anyone unless you plan on having your designs shelved and destroyed, and for you to depart this world earlier than you would have otherwise.
If you decide to go public anyway, expect to meet an untimely and strange end, most likely at the hands of alleged 'random muggers' or 'burglers.'
If you manage to survive that, and your invention actually makes it into production, expect the do gooder closet communists in CONgress to find a way to make your company and your invention public enemy number one. You will be "red-taped" out of business or you will give up out of exhaustion trying to fight legal battles.
TPTB do not want you to help anyone get out from under their yoke and to be independent. It would hurt next quarter's earnings report.
Oh, I doubt they'd kill him.
It's much easier to buy people off with free money printed at the Fed, and provided by taxpayers.
I would never expect a 100-MPG car to make it, of course. Not in the "USSA".
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Here is the websites with
Here is the websites with videos etc. http://www.hp2g.com/videoradio.html
It runs on ethanol so the engine will have very little emissions and will last 3 times as long as a conventional engine.
Also this can account for much of the better efficiency. A conventional ICE engine optimum tuned for ethanol will get about 20% better milage so what ever else he has done I am curious to find out.
This is looking pretty good if they don't kill it. They will probably kill it because if it catches on it will put the oil companies out of business.
Note: please don't whine about ethanol if you are uneducated since all the bad stuff you have heard or read about ethanol is BS.
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And bio-diesel is ten times better than ethanol.
That's why the Fedgov ignores it. That's why the Press doesn't discuss it. It's a total solution to the energy crises on this planet. Ethanol is great, but bio-diesel is even better. It's clean-burning, pragmatic, and simple--based on technology from 1902.
Problem?--it would enrich farmers, instead of petroleum companies. Hence it's unlikely to ever achieve serious production in this country.
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Actually no it's not,
Actually no it's not, Ethanol burns cleaner, is easier and cheaper to make and was the fuel the ECI was originally designed to run on.
The model A ran on ethanol and got 32 miles to the gallon back then. Henry Ford was asked how come ethanol and he said because there are more stills in this country then gasoline stations. Rockefeller bankrolled the suffrage movement and got prohibition passed solely for the purposes of corning the market for gasoline and it worked.
Otherwise we would be energy independent today like Brazil is. No new or experimental technology is needed. ethanol can be made for 45 cents a gallon. Engines last longer on ethanol because there is no carbon build up.
Bio-diesel is good and has it's place but will never be a total solution. And by the way diesels can run on ethanol also with the some minor tuning. Also jets can too.
Also the by product from distilling is a very high protein animal feed or fertilizer. Cattle fed it have 20% more meat. Most current plants are modeled after the centralized gasoline plants and throw out the valuable by product because it not cost effective to ship it back to the farms.
Decentralized local and regional plants are the way to go to bring the costs down and make use of the by products it all win win.
Google David Blume and "Alcohol Can be a Gas" He wrote the bible on ethanol and explodes all the myths put out about it by big oil! It really is liquid sunshine as he likes to say.
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ethanol is partially
ethanol is partially oxygenated, is cheaper to make from sugar cane than from corn and still requires huge government subsidies.
you'd be better off pressure cooking your corn and sugar cane into petroleum than this ethanol horseshit. biodiesel isn't much better either since it isn't feasible on a large scale.
Ethanol cheaper?
I don't think ethanol would be cheaper... I can make bio-diesel for ~50 cents/gallon.
What's your cost for ethanol?
what will be your cost when
what will be your cost when there is a huge demand for used french fry oil?
for that matter, what is the cost of vegetable oil?
sure, it's vastly better than ethanol; it isn't oxygenated, and it runs on an adiabatic cycle, but i can't see it being practical on a large scale considering how little oil one gets out of a plant.
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you have to wonder... when
you have to wonder... when there are technologies such as this... WHY ISN'T GM ALL OVER IT?!?!?!?!?!? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBm8ogwnpG0&fmt=18
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beat me to it : )
ZERO MPG
(of gasoline).
Common sense dictates hydrogen, the most abundant element on the planet as the future of fuels.
If we are going to live in a dictatorship, let's let common sense be the dictator.
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GO for it
Nothing said about emissions , longevity or cost..Interesting. Friction free would be for me..
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i have an idea take will change the way we look
at energy but our government has stop respecting intellectual rights a long time ago so i guess i will sit on the idea until they do or until i die. who is john galt?
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This guy's plant is only
This guy's plant is only about an hour away from me. If I get a chance, I'll go check him out. Hopefully, he's one of ours.
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That
That would be great. Please report back with details.
by all means yes.
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If true
he better have a lot of body guards
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It sounds like
one of those "8-6-4" type engines that never worked a few decades ago, where you cut out some cylinders that you don't need for cruising power, and cut the cylinders back into firing when you need to hit the gas.
Note that they specifically say that it won't get 400hp at the same time it gets 110mpg, or at the same time it goes "200mph"(not hardly)..
So, I think the variable number of cylinders concept is what we're seeing here, tried for the umpteenth time after nobody could ever get it to really work right previously.
Cadillac had a 8-6-4 during the 80s, but it had alot of problems, and they shitcanned it.
dodge
dodge has been doing this with some of its rams recently. i believe it only gave them an extra 2-3 miles per gallon. I seriously doubt that this is what he is doing. he did say he quadrupled the efficiency of the gas engine.
I think there's some hyperbole
going on.
Because a 4-stroke piston engine of quite good efficiency is around 25% efficient.
"Quadrupling" something that is 25% efficient would make it 100% efficient, and we all know that is completely impossible.
Now, maybe if he has some kind of nuclear reactor in there, that might be interesting, but if it's a 4-stroke piston engine, 30% is about as good as it can get.
A really good diesel can get 50% efficient, and actually a good 2-stroke engine can get there too, but 2-strokes give up alot a emissions and generally aren't acceptable for road vehicles anymore.
Nothing is 100% efficient, or even close.
If it was 100% efficient, there would be no heat coming out the exhaust, and it wouldn't need a cooling system. There would be no wasted heat, or it couldn't be 100% efficient.
It would be as cold as the table your computer sits on.
Now don't get me wrong. If he's got a more efficient engine than a normal one, that's great.
But, I am doubting 100% efficiency, which would be a quadrupling of the efficiency of a normal 4-stroke piston engine.
If he could even double the efficiency of a 4-stroke piston engine, to get it to 50% efficiency, it would be an achievement worthy of the Nobel Prize.
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Please tell me you do not take a carburetor apart on the kitchen table. This is all I am envisioning. ;)
The above paragraph looks like a giant word problem, some hideous IQ test. This is second time I've come back here and you are sounding more and more like one of my brothers. If I come back here and you're talking about pit bulls.....
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LOL!
no kidding, eh?!!!
He said this:
"He said he has more than quadrupled the industry average engine efficiency of about 8 percent."
So that makes 32%. No Nobel Prize?
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Isn't Honda using something
Isn't Honda using something like this in one of their current car models?
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I wonder what he could do
with some applied hydrogen =D
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I currently playing with a
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Could someone translate this post ?
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He's trying to build a Hydrogen/Oxygen engine
Water has two highly combustible elements, a joe cell seperates them and creates a fuel out of water. Am I right Oruval?