It's natural for Paul supporters to be opposed the 9/11 Inside Jobbers here.
You Truthers act offended that Paul supporters are attacking you, and claim that we're paid dinsinfo agents. I don't know if you're just saying that to try to upset us or you really kooky enough to believe that, but you're the one's who should be looked at with suspicion here.
But being Paul supporters who agree with his positions naturally causes us to oppose you, because we agree with Dr. Paul's position that 9/11 was blowback. In case you Alex Jones disciples don't know what "blowback" refers to, because Jones never mentions it to his followers, if refers to uintended negative consequences to the U.S., perpetrated by those who choose to lash out against the American people in retaliation for the U.S. government intervening in their countries.
Those who adopt Dr. Paul's position that 9/11 was blowback are naturally going to be irritated that 9/11 Truthers are claiming that Dr. Paul is wrong about this. And they're going to want to speak out against the Truthers. It's not us who believe that 9/11 was blowback that are out of place on a site called "The Daily Paul," but you who claim 9/11 was an inside job.
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Flight 77 did not hit the Pentagon
This is now a conclusively established historical fact, and you can view the evidence here:
http://www.citizeninvestigationteam.com
There goes the "blowback" theory.
Most people know that but until the Media tells it it doesn't
change anything . We need to stay on the media full force if we want to expose anything. They are the keepers of the lies .
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when approached about the birth certificate
and the natural born citizen issue.
Ron Paul said "I would be laughed out of congress"
He didn't say it is not true.
And to the divide and conquer department: "are you done yet?"
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"Freedom is always the freedom of dissenters"
Rosa Luxemburg
Ron Paul is a Truther
And so am I.
Ron Paul and I both prefer truth no matter the topic. That makes us "Truthers".
Ron Paul has stated there was much that was omitted by the 9/11 report and we do not know the whole truth. I agree. That makes us "Truthers"
Ron Paul said that almost all of our wars have been based on lies. That is the truth. He and I agree on that. We are "Truthers"
Finally, just as Ron Paul listened to the 31,000 plus scientists who spoke out against global warming, I look at the peer reviewed evidence that refutes the "official" story about what brought down the buildings. Much of this peer reviewed evidence was not public during the primaries last year.
I do not claim to know how he would react to these structural and chemical engineers, architects, physicists, and others new evidence, but I am confident he would stand by his statement there should be a new investigation, and that this new evidence makes a new investigation even more warranted.
You do not have to have a theory, conspiracy or other, to want to know the truth. I would hope truth is something all of us can agree we want and need.
My personal, handcrafted, "crazy" truther theory
What is the BEST quote from Dr. Paul?
"Truth is treason in the empire of lies."
I read MUCH into that. I truly love Dr. Paul, but truly have agonized over his refusal to support people like Beverly Eckert and Barry Jennings. They deserve better. I know he is too smart to believe 2 planes caused 3 buildings to fall into their footprint because of blowback... so there must be something else.
I know the politicians get backed into corners. I know Masons swear to never turn each other in for crimes. Is he being threatened with treason, or being held to some oath he swore as an ignorant teenager looking to make business connections? I pity the trolls who have to try to defend the indefensible, but my heart breaks for doctor Paul.
Hear, Hear!
Great post. You hit the nail on the head, danorino.
Gee, horus at the gate, dano did a hit a nd run with this piece
He will never see your accolades.
Haven't seen you in a while, been in for re-programming? Got some new stuff for us? The "conspiracy denial" bit is getting pretty laughable, you know. Now the people who scream "conspiracy theory" are starting to get "the look" that those of us that love truth have endured for years. Do you understand that a room full of GOP faithful will now sit and discuss the inconsistencies of the official 9-11 stories? Granted they are trying to find a way to excuse Bush and Cheney's rather suspicious behavior, but even those who officially believe the story don't even pretend they believe it any more.
I kind of feel sorry for you. I remember the first time I went to a bank on a Sunday (there used to be a term - "banker's hours - meant you had a cush job.) I made a crack to the man that I bet he never thought he'd clock in on a Sunday when he chose his career... He was NOT amused. I wonder how often you wish you had chosen a path that did not force you to come here day after day and make a fool of yourself. At least you have the anonymity of the internet.
Regardless of which side of the fence one is on about 9/11...
...as to whether it was inside job or not, it is very telling that you are supportive of some collectivist, insulting, divisive rant like this. :(
HEAR HEAR
90% of the people on this site know the official story of 9/11 is a complete lie.
What should you have us do.. Leave.
They have been trying to connect the 911 truthers
to the museum killer and from thereon, the 911 truthers to the ronpaul supporters... and danorino is trying to heat up the debate, collect more ammunition to add to Beck's idiotic stuff. Danorino is a shill and we should ignore this poster.
Kooky? Nah, we're not offended by you,
but we are completely bored with you, and your redundant blathering. Blah, blah, blah. Sounds just like baa, baa, baa. You are in a very tiny minority here. Now, run along and play elsewhere. Didn't you have an appointment for some blowback in Bangkok? (Now THAT'S kooky!) ;)
...THE CULT OF ALEX JONES !!! Da Da Daaaaaaaa !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
..."In case you Alex Jones DISCIPLES don't know what "blowback" refers to, because Jones never mentions it to his FOLLOWERS..."
...Yea, LOOK-OUT man ! If you are associated in any way with anything Alex Jones has to say you are a BELIEVER in the RELIGION of 9/11 Truth !!! Da Da Daaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
...LOL...
...OR maybe we are grown-up enough to make up our own minds on whatever information we choose to without turning it into a religion.
...AND maybe "Blowback" and "Inside Job" are able to be used, sometimes, together, to create what is known as a "False Flag" operation...you may want to investigate the first World Trade Center Bombing as a primer on the topic...it's a real eyeopener !
...and some freindly advice...stop the pigeon holeing please...
...RON PAUL Is My President...
Planes hitting buildings is blowback. Demolition is not.
Why do you think Ron Paul wants a new investigation?
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
The whole premise
of this post functions as propaganda. Paul supporters are defined as those who believe the official story of 9/11. 9/11 Truthers are portrayed as an outside group which follows Alex Jones. They are referred to by the epithet "Inside Jobbers."
Well Danorino I don't know what universe you are living in, but since my involvement with this movement and Ron Paulites - riding in the RP Limo, attending the R4R, other rallies, meetups, etc.- I cannot ever recall meeting an RP supporter who actually believed the official story of 9/11! Every Ron Paul supporter I've ever met was either a serious full blown 9/11 Truther or at least an honest questioner. Thus, the premise of this post is a work of fiction and propaganda.
As regards Alex Jones, the post tries to conflate a rejection of the obviously false official story with being a sycophantic follower of the loud-mouthed radio host. Once again, in my experience most RP supporters are not devotees of Jones. Most have expressed doubts about some of his claims. Yet, many RP supporters, myself included, first heard about the obscure Texas Congressman through Jones' promotion and interviews of Ron Paul.
I can certainly understand someone accepting the official version of 9/11 and being an RP supporter. What I cannot understand is an attitude of intolerance for anyone asking questions, and the use of propaganda techniques to demoralize, neuter, or further marginalize the RP faithful.
For the moment, lacking any documentary evidence, I will have to accept the quite possibly false premise that you Danorino are an actual, sincere RP supporter and not a paid disinfo operative. Yet, even so, can't we just agree to disagree and move on? You Danorino should want this as you are in the minority here.
I Don't Know Why, But...
...the More I Read This Post, the more I keep getting visuals of all those media broadcasts in the days after 9/11 where Bush, slouching over any given podium, kept saying, "Either you are with us or you are with the tear-ists!"
I think your post would not be met with so much criticism and opposition if you would change your avatar to a picture of yourself standing in front of a huge backdrop that says, "Mission Accomplished!"
neat
neat
Your time would be better served spending it on
what UNITES us instead of what divides us.
And anyway the DP 911 poll disputes your thread...
Poll question
The poll asks if you believe 9/11 happened as the government reported it.
Just because you don't believe that the government is telling the complete truth about what happened, DOES NOT ALSO MEAN THAT YOU THINK IT WAS AN INSIDE JOB.
What was the result of that poll anyway ? 90 % or so ?
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A - 7, B - 182
or:
A = 04%
B = 96%
I once believed the accepted account...
I then examined what I based this belief on, mainly three things.
1. The 911 commission report: After researching Zelikow and the process by which the report was constructed, coupled with the numerous individuals in a better position than myself to question its voracity, I no longer accept this as "the explanation".
2. My own eyes: I saw planes fly into those buildings and assumed a plane must have struck the pentagon as well. It has since occurred to me that I couldn't go into a Taco Bell and steal a packet of fire sauce without being video taped. But, the government would have us believe that a jumbo jet flew into the pentagon and we didn't get a single frame of video evidence. I was talking with a friend the other night and he thinks I'm crazy. He said he saw the video of the plane hitting the pentagon. I asked him to find that video for me and his reply was "well maybe I didn't see it but I thought..."
3. We are good, they are bad: If Ron Paul has done anything positive for me personally, it's to learn to question my beliefs on power vs. the people.
There are numerous holes in the governments 911 theory which leads to the need for more scrutiny.
That's pretty much it. I can't say if 911 was an inside job but I believe there are enough legitimate questions by experienced professionals that to thwart any attempt to answer such questions makes one wonder, as Dr. Paul said, "what's going on here"?
Your still no.1 Dan, no.1 $HITBAG! Have a nice day!
Tell your buddies in Virginia howdy from us at the DP!
"Hell is truth seen too late...duty neglected in its season."- Tryon Edwards
hey danarino, remember this thread just a few days ago?
Posted June 10th, 2009 by melgesman
It is getting a little difficult to count but it looks like:
Tally Thus far: A-7 (with a few caveats) B-182
so, danorino, your subject head line:
"It's natural for Paul supporters to be opposed.."
is based on, taken from, what? natural, says you-and who?
DISINFO!!! Tell the BO guy
DISINFO!!! Tell the BO guy he will need to hire more disinfo bloggers if he wants to divide us
MARCH ON!!
An Eye for an Eye will ONLY make this world go blind~Ghandi~
I generally ignore these threads
I don’t like giving them a bump. What is up with all of the treads on this subject lately? What is the point, it is one thing when a truther post new info and subsequently attacked but so many people (trolls) are starting posts on the subject? Can someone start a new thread and answer that. I just don’t understand what they get out of it.
I am not a truther by choice, but by circumstance. Leave me alone with my own genuine loss on 911 and allow me to search for answers without attack.
Ron Paul believes in individuals and as such we have our own minds, of which he encourages us to use, and NEVER tells us what to think.
So being a truther is more Ron Paul like then you telling us what to think.
When you lose a family member and there is blatant evidence contradicting the official story, and officials will not answer you, then you come back to me and tell me how you handled it, until then you are of no consequence.
This will be my last post for this thread
It’s that bump thing.
Devoted, sentinel, paul4won
Thank you.
mag4paul, I will NEVER "leave you alone"
Your loss is my loss.
Beverly Eckert, Barry Jennings, John O'Neil, mag4paul's loved one - I will never forget, and I will never shut up.
911 has recently gone mainstream with Richard gage on Fresno
Fox and Denvers pbs playing the "911 press for truth " video all last weekend. People are waking up so the trolls need to work that much harder . I've sent letters to all the PBS stations in north america with the very impressive numbers from the KBDI pledge drive and they have taken notice and due the the overwhelming support many are considering playing the video. All it takes is for open minded people to see the video one time and they are outraged by what the Corporate Media has been hiding from them.
In my letter I added the link to the pledge drive http://www.youtube.com/wa... and a list of documentaries for them to choose from http://www.911docs.net/ I always recommend "improbable collapse" or Richard Gages presentation since they only present the facts of the demolitions.
This should be a good summer .
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I like that--"...you are of no consequence."
I agree with you. These lemmings are of no consequence.
And I am very, very sorry for your loss.
The truth of this crime will come out--it will. There are those here and around the world who simply cannot and will not let it go.
Let me first thank you for your sympathy
I just don’t understand the abundance of this kind of thread, do they wish to have us concentrating our efforts on this subject so that we are not keeping our eye on the ball with the Fed, and HR1207? We will never get the truth until we remove the corruption in office. The beginning of that is in my option is HR1207, look at how many years have gone by that we didn’t know what happened on the USS Liberty.
I agree with you the truth will come out, it always does, and I am willing to help facilitate it by supporting HR1207.
I will say again, I don’t like responding to these threads b/c it does bump them. BA#@%*DS
"It's natural for Paul
"It's natural for Paul supporters to be opposed the 9/11 Inside Jobbers here."
I'm a Ron Paul supporter and why would I be opposed to 9/11 truthers ?
I don't believe in the official 9/11 Commission Report myself.
How can you be opposed to people trying to find answers ? They do no harm, and I support them in their effort to get their questions answered.
Danorino
I have been on this site fairly actively for two years. I do not recall you posting a blessed thing until all of these divisive threads. The facts as I know them, say you are not doing a service to the group.
Please focus on talking about what you think is important as opposed to continuously harping on folks who have rational-man questions regarding 9/11.
From a true lover of liberty and a person of peace, I thank you for chilling out a bit.
i think danorino is freejesseventura..
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I second that
.If not, then it is a co worker of the same department.
Man, You Must Think We're Idiots
Ordinarily I'd say "good try," but in your case, alas, it doesn't apply. This thread is goofy, and you're lousy at being a troll.
I can only suggest you polish up and come back in a few months.
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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels
Please stop the infighting
division, exclusivity and playing against each other are always the mechanism used to control people/groups.
there is no other group which benefits but those who are on top controlling---the excuse[label] could be anything,that is why, it is ALWAYS used. it is very effective.
these people worship and exploit the theory that human beings are inherently suspicious,distasteful and will automatically assume the worst position against each other.
There is no "conspiracy theorist". it is a made up word to play in your psyche--to alienate you all amongst each other.
YOUR SIMILARITIES FAR OUTWEIGH ANY "LABEL" the controlling machiavellian megalomaniacs[yes, it is them we should label and cause them distrust/suspicion and let them destroy themselves] can think of.
I am not an American, but I am one with all of you. yes,--let me say this again--ALL OF YOU. Even those that might be just "simple men trying to make it in the world" paid hacks. we are all in this together.
See what RP's Audit the Fed accomplished because of your unity---and see Obama TAKING TIME TO MENTION 911 official story detractors in his Egypt speech----yes, we all are turning the tables, let everyone say their piece---peace to all those who enter the dailypaul site!
jc-from 9,000 miles away
its always good to hear from you, jc
peace!
ps
wish i could visit manila again...a beautiful city! i have pleasant memories from there...
O Captain, My Captain, rise up and hear the bells!
Although I agree that
Although I agree that "blowback" does occur from our dealings overseas, I am SURE that blowback doesnt come in the form of Magic, capable of bringing down steel and concrete buildings with nothing left standing.
I have been in the construction industry for 16 years, and I have an idea of how those buildings should have collapsed from impact and fire, if at all.
The concrete would have separated from the steel because of the expansion difference. The concrete, having little tensile strength, and relying on the steel rebar for nearly all of its tensile performance would crack and the weight of it would pull it down around the steel columns. The steel columns, because there was no lateral movement, would remain full height...(it could be argued that up at the 80th floor where the plane went through that the steel would be removed...ok, I wount argue aluminum vs steel and concrete right now...by the way, when they test a missle hitting a wall,what material do they use? Answer concrete reinforced with steel, a runway is 18" of concrete also)
If the building had tipped from impact (impossible) and fell over, there would be a little better argument, but a building falling in on itself takes skill. Otherwise, they would just light all those old buildings in Vegas on fire.
And for it to happen three times?
All of this info, coupled with the FACT that the U.S. has created false flag operations before, makes me question what happened.
Heres a scenario (this may please everyone)
The U.S. picks up chatter that "Arabs" are planning on flying four planes into WTC 1, 2, 7, and Pentagon. So they close down floors of the buildings (they were closed for unscheduled maintenance) set up explosives and wait.
during this wait, they go to the Brits and ask "how can we sell a war with Iraq to the American people http://downingstreetmemo....
Then WTC 1 is hit, WTC 2 is hit, Pentagon is hit, then the people on board of 93 take over control of the plane (lets roll), the plane goes off of its intended path, WTC 7, so it is shot down http://www.flight93crash....
so WTC 7 only burns,
then finally, since a huge insurance policy was taken out on WTC http://whatreallyhappened...
so Larry decided to "pull it", This is of course a term used to "demolish a building"
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
just a thought;|
Thankyou
"blowback doesnt come in the form of Magic, capable of bringing down steel and concrete buildings with nothing left standing."
Well put
http://www.jbs.org/
Semper Fortis
No, thankyou G Class
I know also there are those on here who like to give you guys in the military and cops a hard time but me I would rather have freedom loving Marines and cops then ones who are only neocons.
Thanks
Thats mighty kind of you as is much appreciated.
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Semper Fortis
Disagreement
I freely am both a Dr. Paul supporter and self-identified 'Truther'
"Blowback" is the easily digestable milk for the newbies...
The bombs in the buildings, the standing down of NORAD, the PNAC reports, and the whereabouts of the VP are the meat and potatoes for those of us who have been awake forawhile and are able to process this information.
But this post makes NO kind of sense. You'd be hard pressed to find a Truther who isn't a die-hard Ron Paul supporter. Likewise... the overwhelming majority of the official story believing, braindead, waste of American citizenship, 9/11 deniers... have no idea who Ron Paul is. And that is a fact.
Understandably, we have great patiotic RP supproters (here on DP and elsewhere) who are not "Truthers". And to you fine Americans I say, "keep up the good work, and stay the course. But please familiarize your with 9/11 material which is easily found...and spread the word. And show no fear"
http://www.jbs.org/
Semper Fortis
its natural for 2% of the people here...
to support you...
actually, a 2% count is very, very poor...its a shame you couldn't muster up any more support than that in your pro nwo government rants...
we'll see, however, that you'll do your best to see that that 2% monopolizes the day here...
"truthers"...please say the word again, it galvanizes a movement, you are just too stupid to see it!
the opposite of truther is liar...if i am a truther, you are a liar...please, go on!
O Captain, My Captain, rise up and hear the bells!
Not True!!
What I would like to know is how anyone that supports Ron Paul and the cause of Liberty would even think of attempting to suppress anothers viewpoint. It should be discussed and if you say you are a supporter of Ron Paul then you would also agree that Freedom of Speach is one of the founding principles of Liberty. So either you are confused or you have lost the meaning of what Ron Paul has talked about so many times. The prime mission is to restore Liberty and that includes putting up with other viewpoints. This discussion is so polarizing that it defeats the purpose of Restoring Liberty. I don't think it can be anymore simpler than that. No one is asking you to believe or read posts that you find offensive. You have to click the mouse to read the posts and if you find a particular subject offensive you and you alone have the control of your system to not click on those subjects. So exercise your right to not read what you find offensive but if you attempt to sensor anothers viewpoint then you are definetly at the wrong site.
It's a website with RP's name on it
If I start posting UFO comments or KKK propaganda it's going to get censored (well, maybe not the UFO ones given that truthers and chemtrails don't). I don't believe this is a free speech site. This is a site dedicated to the ideas of RP. If not, why use his name and pic right at the top? Assuming I'm correct, then this post has a valid point. If this is a truther website, so be it. Just please take the name and pic of someone who doesn't believe it off, especially if it dominates a large part of the space here. Put Michael Moore up there instead.
It seems to me lately that most of the posting being done on
this topic seems to be coming from the ANTI- truthers .I think the truthers have grown and become more disaplined leaving the sublect to posted on the weekend while posting our more main topcs for the weekdays.
I know well who Chalmers..
Johnson is and I thank you for the underhanded slap in the face. Since you're the only choice I've got as an ally against tyranny I'll have to put up with your $h!t, but I'll won't be looking back with any tears in my eyes when we split ways. If you think that's foolish, go do some research on those who fought in the Revolutionary War. Most of the forces from different states didn't like each other much either. Of course, they didn't have to listen to two faced apologists demand that those who follow a single man and also other points of view concerning Liberty be removed from a public movement based on Liberty, but they did have to pull knives out of their back from characters like yourself.
Enjoy your trash talking, and disjointed logic; it's perfect for your bizarro world.
Assert Your Authority
9/11 was clearly an inside job
All that is necessary to prove that is the complete and utter destruction of WTC Buildings 1, 2, and without a doubt 7. Just give one plausible explanation as to how WTC7 fell. C'mon all you "non-truthers" it shouldn't be that hard to come up with one scenario or reason as to why the 47 story steel skyscraper crumbled to the ground in 7 seconds. The thing is I don't call myself a "truther" or anything of the sort, I am someone who has taken an objective view on the facts of 9/11 and made an informed decision as to which story I thought was more plausible. If you haven't realized 9/11 was an inside job yet, then you haven't done enough homework or critical thinking!
off topic
I like your moniker it reminds of the album title "every one knows this is nowwhere" are you a Neil Young fan.