I had Breakfast with Ron Paul...
Submitted by Gary Patridge on Wed, 06/24/2009 - 11:47
About two months ago, Dr. Paul came to Wake Forest University to promote H.R. 1207. CFL held a small breakfast the next morning (limited to thirty people) and I couldn’t resist the opportunity.
After he spoke, people lined-up for an autograph, hand shaking, photos and general chit-chat. When it became my turn, I politely introduced myself and then asked Dr. Paul the following question:
(paraphrased)
Given that the American people last Fall, in an unprecedented expression of their will, told Congress, not once, but twice in very clear language to vote no on the TARP bailout, after which Congress immediately acquiesced and did the opposite; for what reason should we continue to hold faith that our “representative government” is a viable mechanism for change?
His answer:
Vote ‘em out. He then turned and moved-on to the next person and it was the end of the conversation.
I was stunned. Vote ‘em out? That’ll take decades. At the speed things are happening, we don’t have decades. If one ignores that our elections are, at best, suspect of manipulation by interested-parties with entrenched power and unlimited resources, fixing our country might never happen through the election process. So what’s left?
I walked away from the encounter both disillusioned and discouraged. Ever since, I’ve wondered; is Ron unwittingly playing the role of “controlled opposition”? Is he unintentionally providing the “useful idiot” to give our movement the appearance and inner-sense of activism, while never providing the leadership needed to produce real change? He’s set himself up as the rallying-point, yet he refuses to be its leader. As a consequence, like an army with no general, we can’t seem to focus on where to best use our resources, so we’re splintered into a thousand little ineffectual noise-makers. I truly believe Ron is sincere in his beliefs and that his integrity is beyond reproach. But is he naïve? Has he become so accustomed to “tilting at windmills” over the last thirty years that winning is no longer the real objective- just being heard is enough? Is the game already over and we’re the last ones to figure it out? Like the 70’s poster of the eagle and the mouse; is this simply the last great act of defiance?
We now have a government that:
Is ratcheting-up for new and escalated warfare all over the world while continuing to manipulate the internal affairs of other nations
Is in the process of handing over the few remaining vestiges of our monetary system to the total control of the FED
Has broken the independence of non-FED banks, nationalized private industry, shredded contract law and established limits for private compensation biased toward preferred insiders
Is quickly ramming-through legislation to nationalize our entire healthcare system at a cost of trillions of dollars
Is quickly ramming-through questionable “Climate Change” legislation which will finally and completely destroy American free enterprise
Has relinquished our sovereignty to the international banking interests and their puppet-government, the UN and has quietly escalated the implementation of “sustainable development” in the form of the openly-Marxist Agenda 21
Has appointed a homeland security czar that believes any form of dissent is an act of terrorism and knows no bounds on spying on the American people including the use of unmanned drones, satellites and recruiting the use of private company employees to “monitor” their customer’s behavior and activities
Has appointed an attorney general that is committed to the destruction of the Second Amendment
Maintains a secret list of over a million Americans who are under suspicion while wire-tapping our phones, reading our emails and parsing-through our most private information at will
Runs military training exercises on every part of the American soil and deploys the National Guard as if it were their private army
Is largely comprised of foreign nationals with questionable allegiance and who act in the interests of their home country
Has defended a national policy of torture, rendition and denial of basic human rights
In open defiance to the outspoken will of the American people, has further and finally debauched our legal tender with reckless and insane spending and monetary transfer schemes.
Makes the list of “grievances” compiled by the Colonists to King George III look kinda pale, doesn’t it?
I’ve been writing and calling and calling and writing my Senators and my Congresswoman and the crazy legislation just keeps on coming. They write this stuff so quickly and in such volume that we can’t even react to it all, let alone effectively block its passage. For every bill we oppose, there’s five more, just as insane right behind it. The inmates have truly taken control of the asylum.
So… in the context of all that’s going on, an answer like “vote ‘em out” leaves me dumb-struck. With a 100 Senators, 435 Congressmen, 9 Supreme Court Justices and 1 President backed by FED bankers with a printing press is gonna take quite some fund-raising effort. If that’s our best and only option, then I fear we are indeed screwed.
Ron Paul is the only guy on our side at present (of any real substance) that is currently “permitted” to hold the microphone. Our problems are macro and systemic in nature and we’re not going to “fix a broken hammer with a broken hammer”. Instead, I wish he would use his “bully pulpit” to marshal the American people en-masse to take action. Peaceful yes, but with big shoulders. Whether he intended to become a leader or not, at this point, doesn’t really matter- for the moment, he is the leader. He needs to use this brief opportunity to lead in a much more demonstrative fashion. Time is running out and the consequences of inaction are either fascism or communism.
The great strength of the Ron Paul movement is that
we agree on little but our love of liberty and our support for Ron Paul. Start forcing us into an army and watch people fade away. Forget the cookie cutter approach. There is great strength in many centers of operation, many organizations. Why favor centralization, one army, one general? That's the method of our adversaries. If we compete on their terms, they win.
Ron Paul is doing what he does best, being the best congressman he can be. He's a model for others in Congress to follow, others seeking to be elected. Along with his appearances in the media, he's the greatest spokesman for liberty in America. It's no surprise that he's the most admired U.S. Congressman in the world.
The man is in his seventies. Where does he get the energy? No it's not up to him to give us specific orders, to lead us by the hand. It's up to us to follow his example, and take the message of liberty to others everywhere.
I’m overwhelmed.
Having been in this fight for 30-some years, I’ve seen well-defined inroads. But I feel more strongly all the time that the effort has simply amounted to a well-intentioned shot in the dark. Each day I pray the infidels will not win this round, but God only knows… We can only keep pluggin’ away. But if we ever let discouragement sidetrack us, our effort is definitely in vain.
—Cliff in Sioux City, Iowa
If you remember anything, remember the throw-away tools of war.
—Cliff in Sioux City, Iowa
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If you remember anything, remember the throw-away tools of war.
I totally agree with
I totally agree with everything you said.
By the way. I still have a ratty tatty copy of a copy of a copy of that 70's poster you mentioned. Been holding on to it for years without really knowing why. Got a real charge out of reading your mention of it!
Things are only impossible until they are not.
-- Jean Luc Picard
Things are only impossible until they are not.
-- Jean Luc Picard
while never providing the
Ron Paul's position within our revolution isn't quite what you're expecting of him. He is leading us. It seems that you're wanting strategy and legwork from him... that's our job.
If you haven't read his books, checking them out will provide a lot of valuable info.
Getting involved with the Campaign For Liberty is probably what you're looking for. Get in touch with your precinct leader and they will help strategize ways that you can have a more direct positive impact.
My biggest concern
is that "the process" doesn't work anymore. That's what I was looking for clarification on...
Thanks! I'm fighting every single day.
Are you referring to vote
Are you referring to vote fraud and government manipulation of the U.S. media?
Ron Paul's answer was quick
Ron Paul's answer was quick and to the point: Vote them out. In my opinion, meaning that you/we should not have faith in the bozos in D.C. We need to vote them out and replace them with true liberty loving patriots.
When you state the problems
When you state the problems of our nation in that way...yes, it sounds overwhelming.
How about altering your perception on this, though. Firstly, the list you give is finite. If every person reading this would only take one of the issues you list, make that issue her own, and try to promote real change through activism...maybe this *could* make a difference. I know. Some of these issues are really huge and probably one person could not accomplish much in the face of how vast the tyranny really is. But remember, the American Revolution really was fought by perhaps *one percent* of the population in those times.
What about "voting them all out," as Ron Paul suggests? Again, I humbly submit to you that great change can happen in a short period of time, if enough people are angry enough to go to the polls and vote against the incumbents. In many places in this country only a small percentage of voters even come to the polls. If somehow we could identify and motivate the undecided voters to actually show up and vote the bad ones out--and did it throughout many states, I think you would see a difference.
I am not saying your point isn't valid...but I would not want to use it as a reason for inaction.
Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.
Thomas Jefferson
Malo periculosam libertatem quam quietam servitutem. ("I prefer the tumult of liberty to the quiet of servitude"). Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 30 January 1787.
I'll NEVER give up
and I believe the good people here at Daily Paul won't give up either. I'd bet my last dime that Ron Paul won't give up....
But American's have never been known for their patience in the face of injustice. We are a people who do not tolerate fools easily. Our's is a government gone mad.
The meter is runnin'. I have two kids and three grandsons for whom I intend to do my best to leave a pristine nation based on honor and integrity. It's time to ascert in the most constructive and effectual manner.
Glad to hear you don't
Glad to hear you don't intend to give up...your list of grievances is long and substantive, and I can't find anything to dispute in them. The ones in the Declaration of Independence were every bit as substantive, and described conditions I consider to be every bit as oppressive as the ones we discern in our own government today. But is this a government grown too large and too powerful, assisted by technology and a military with powers unimaginable to the generation of our founders? I worry about that too.
Don't know if I agree with you that Americans are not patient. The ones on the left have been thumping and beating and pushing their views on the rest of us for a long time, and they have finally succeeded so well that to many of us this just looks like the endgame. Perhaps it is time for us to become as patient as they; I still believe that if we can motivate enough people like us to do what is right, we will prevail.
I'm not so young either. That adds to my own sense of urgency.
Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.
Thomas Jefferson
Malo periculosam libertatem quam quietam servitutem. ("I prefer the tumult of liberty to the quiet of servitude"). Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 30 January 1787.
I think your dissillusionment stems from the fact that
"We the People" are impotent - the machinations of government do not run as they should - the machine has been broken for a long, long time.
For the people, by the people...not even close.
My daughter was a junior in high school this year and took US History. The course was quite an in depth study and as she shared what she was learning, my greatest surprise was the repetative nature of government. Much of what we are witnessing today has happened in the past and the cycle continues until the time is nigh when "the powers that be" can complete the plan that has been set in motion for decades (centuries?). They are a patient bunch and will have their way eventually - for a time. I do believe we are on a precipice at present - the time may indeed be nigh.
Ron Paul is a man who believes in doing things by the rules. No one can be faulted for living that way - it shows high integrity. Unfortunately the rules they require us to live by do not apply to those few who live by an entirely different set of rules.
BUT a day of reckoning will come - that I am sure of.
Gary, you stated the
Gary, you stated the following about Ron Paul, "never providing the leadership needed to produce real change?", I would like to ask, are you completely stupid or blinded? Ron Paul has done more than any American living today to produce real change. He is only one man you fool. Get out there and do something your f------ self!
Sorry I get so aggravated at stupid, arrogant a--holes that have done little to nothing to promote real change and have a problem with someone that has dedicated his lifetime!! Had to get that off my chest.
"Single acts of tyranny may be ascribed to the accidental opinion of a day; but a series of oppressions, begun at a distinguished period and pursued unalterably through every change of ministers, too plainly prove a deliberate, systematic plan of reducing
Response to comments
If I may respond to some of the comments below:
I never expected Dr. Paul to say, "C'mon, grab your gun... we're going to Washington and clean house!" or anything even remotely close. He's far too steady and too intelligent to do something so brash. I would also imagine the NSA/FBI/DHS/CIA apparatus has such a tight-web around him, the poor man can't fart without making a hundred people hold their nose. To have any effect at all, he has to stay above the freigh. I get it- I don't like it, but I get it. He's demonstrating Statesmanship at a time when many are simply fed-up and wanna kick somebody's backside...
What I was looking for was an informed opinion of whether our mechanisms for change (our elected representative government) are showing real signs of irreperable dysfunction. If it is ever becomes publically acknowledged that working within our system is futile, the need may arise for us to reascert our authority by showing the strength of our numbers. I guess what I was looking for was some inkling in his estimation of how close that point may be. In retrospect, and with the help of all the good thinking here, I can see now that he'd never take it upon himself to call that moment. He'd be crucified in a 24 hour news cycle and Obama would emerge as the new "Abe Lincoln". No- He's leaving it for us to decide.
We are priveleged to have such a man among us during our time. May God grant us the wisdom to know what to do with the information- and when.
Please look at what Congress did to another Congressman,,,
,,,that spoke out in opposition:
http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2002/cr072402b.htm
{ Ron Paul speaking } Mr. Speaker, after listening carefully to last week’s ethics hearing, I have serious concerns about whether Mr. Traficant received a fair trial. In particular, I am concerned whether the change of venue denied Mr. Traficant a meaningful opportunity to present his case to a jury of his peers. Usually a change of venue is appropriate in cases where the defendant cannot receive a fair trial. I am unaware of any other case where the venue was changed for the benefit of the state.
However, the most disturbing accusations concern the possibility that Mr. Traficant was denied basic due process by not being allowed to present all of his witnesses at the trial. This failure raises serious questions whether Mr. Traficant had the opportunity to present an adequate defense. These questions are especially serious since one of the jurors from Mr. Traficant’s criminal trial told the Cleveland Plain Dealer that had he heard the testimony of Richard Detore at Mr. Traficant’s trial, he would have voted "not guilty."
beesting
I think Ron Pauls goal was
I think Ron Pauls goal was to educate the American people and that He has done. Every radio interview or TV interview gets Him further along his goal. I don't think He is controlled oposition because the elites plan is further along than We think. We will be having a serious readjustment in the future and to be honest I don't think He wants to be responsible for it either. I mean look around conservatives are pissed right now and I wouldn't be surprised if states start talking about leaving the union in the future. Now who on earth would want to be responsible for that?
"Vote 'em out" is the correct answer.
Where I disagree with Dr. Paul is on his choice of political party.
If we truly want to save the remnants of this mess called the USA, we have to move faster and educate the public faster, which requires a Third Party with a strong platform. And we have to capture the White House, which is also highly unlikely within the GOP. Ballot access is a obstacle, but a spirited movement with momentum could easily get ballot access in all fifty states.
The debate issue is overblown, because the Internet will become the new mainstream Press by the next presidential election...and I feel a strong movement could get the required 15%, anyway.
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I used to think the same about 3rd parties,
and was active for years in the Libertarian Party --- but not any longer. If any third party shows any real sign of gaining support, it will just be infiltrated and/or co-opted, like the LP was last year by the neocon mole Bob Barr. If they are willing to go to that length to take over such a small 3rd party, what are the chances that a more successful one will ever be allowed to succeed?
The whole electoral system is hopelessly rigged against us, and against any real reform --- Ron Paul's (and our) efforts in 2007-2008, and the relentless media attacks, marginalization and vote fraud committed against him and us in result, just goes to show how futile a frontal assault against the leviathan state really is.
I don't think Barr disproves the viability of third parties.
If anything, I think Barr took advantage of a poorly designed nomination process in the Libertarian Party. I don't think Barr getting the nomination was the result of a conspiracy--just corrupt tactics between him and his neo-con friend Wayne Root. They basically got together, and cheated Mary Ruwart of a nomination that should have been rightfully hers.
If a cabal had been behind Barr's nomination, I'd think he would have won a larger percentage of the vote.
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Agree philosophically with the idea of "Another" Party
but would suggest that maybe it should be the Party of NO Party. Political parties are what got us into this mess. They distill all the power to a handful of priveleged decision makers and provide the perfect facade for hiding financial shenanigans and corruption. They're the Party of Elites- not the people.
Imagine an election with NO parties and with all contributions limited to individuals- Just people and ideas. No "R" or "D" (or any other lettter) to hide behind.
Kevin, the problem is there
Kevin, the problem is there isn't a 3rd party that has accomplished much. the L party has been at this for 40 years and what have they actually won in the last 40 years? I believe Ron Paul is correct by promoting the R party because it has extreme clout, no problems with ballot access and most of the american people vote either R or D.
Now before you bring up Ross Perot and how he obtained almost 20% don't forget 20% doesn't win elections and Perot was a multi billionaire.
What the L party and every other 3rd party should do is join the R party and take it back to it's roots.
That is of course my opinion as an independent.
www.retakecongress.com
Third Parties haven't done well because of the wrong approach.
The Libertarian Party is a mess, ideologically speaking. I support the Libertarian Party, but honestly don't know what it is--is it Anarchist? Is it Minarchist? Is it Bill Maher? Is it Neal Boortz? Is it Bob Barr?
It seems anyone can call himself a "Libertarian" without any checklist of what that means.
That is one problem; another problem is they've never run a good presidential candidate who was well known...but the biggest problem has been it wasn't their "time" yet. In the 70s and 80s, the two major parties had not yet shown themselves to be a sham. Today, it's very obvious they stand for absolutely nothing except corruption.
Now it's time. People are fed up with the one-party system.
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yes agreed
Ross Perot got 19.3% in general election and this would be a strong fundament of a third party.
I think Jesse Ventura who hates both parties equally will do what Ron avoids....time will tell.
"The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government -- lest it come to dominate our lives and interests."
-- Patrick Henry
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great post Gary
is Ron unwittingly playing the role of “controlled opposition”?
my answer to this question is "in a partial way yes".
They give him some time in the MSM now after the elections because he is no threat.
He would never call for mass protests in America they way Mousavi called in Iran.
Ron Paul is no Mir Mousavi.
Ron Paul did not allow money to be spend to have a recount in NH during the primaries.
He did little to protest his limited speaking time during the all important televised debates.And when McCain or Romney would make jokes about him on stage he would not fire back at them.
It is as if he knew his role.
After the Iowa caucus journalist asked him if he was happy at the results he said yes this is a good showing.
Yep a bleeping 5th place was a good showing...
"The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government -- lest it come to dominate our lives and interests."
-- Patrick Henry
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I Share Your Frustration, But,
Please remember "We the People" are supposed to be the Government, and control the Government. It is OUR fault bad people got elected and appointed.
Please follow these 2 threads to see a different method of throwing the bums out:
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/97508
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/96496
beesting
your just a sissy
sounds to me you went looking for the wizard of oz and when he couldn't give the answer you were looking for you question his credibility??
We get told and hear things we don't want to all the time.
Vote em out is the right idea. What did you expect him to say, "Let's grab our guns and mow the bastards down"?
I mean jesus christ, how much can you expect out of a man.
American ideals attract persons with DNA freedom in there genes.
America may get educated in government schools and immigrants may think they like socialism, but cannot tolerate thievery and thugary, it's in their genes.
So, we are the targets of a world whom envies what we built. And they want it. Like Pol Pot in Cambodia, burning books and killing the professionals was his way of transfer of wealth, by stunting the growth of creativity and invention. Nobody wins.
Around the world, our chromosomes seek individual sovereignty. Here in America, most people are unconsciously sovereign.
Now to Ron Pauls comment. He speaks to millions of people and keeps it simple. The first way for the average dumbed down person is to wake up and get involved in what politicians are doing to their families.
People then will seek their niche, for us, it is sharing our time to write from our hearts and minds, on behalf of those whom do not have this opportunity.
Ron Paul always stops me in my tracks by his calmness, and I learn from that.
And never forget, “Humans, despite our artistic pretensions, our sophistication and many accomplishments, owe the fact of our existence to a six-inch layer of topsoil and the fact that it rains.”
what other options do you suggest?
violence is the only way to achieve the kind of revolution we want within any sort of reasonable time frame, but that is certainly out of the question for Paul and I hope most of the people dp.
Patience my friend is a virtue. People have been fighting this fight since 1900 or so. We haven't even begun to win yet. The parasites keep coming and they will keep coming after we win. Its not the end of America if we loose a few more battles along the way, but when we finally win the whole country will bounce back hard and fast.
The law of attraction is a supra consciousness sort of thing.
Violence or argument has it's blowback.
Pointing to or handing a person information, and offering that this info "may or may not be for you, but I would like to hear what you think about it". (called a third party tool)
Help one person at a time, try awakening at least two people per day, again, with the power of attraction. Very important to follow up.
Be one within yourself, grasshopper, walk lightly on fragile rice paper.
And never forget, “Humans, despite our artistic pretensions, our sophistication and many accomplishments, owe the fact of our existence to a six-inch layer of topsoil and the fact that it rains.”
Seriously.“Liberty means
Seriously. (this was supposed to be in response to bigsujune's comment about being surprised Dr. Paul hasn't had a nervous breakdown yet...great thread overall though)
“Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it.” -George Bernard Shaw
“Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it.” -George Bernard Shaw
It's easier than you think, and simple
You only have to start voting them out. One or two resounding defeats are a shot across the bow. Dr. Paul also said it easy to change the direction of Congress; they always have their finger to the wind.
There is no substitute for voter input. We the People are the ultimate power in this structure, and we have to do our jobs. Unfortunately, some of us are more committed than others and have to do the heavy lifting.
Ultimately, a great deal depends on timing the mood of voters. My hope is that the Internet speeds and improves this process.
IMissLiberty
IMissLiberty
To all naysayers.
I think you should take a step back and look at some pretty important accomplishments CFL and others in the grass roots have made. He nor any of us can do this over night. I mean look. Did you really expect Erir Cantor to cosponsor 1207. it is likely he did it for fear of not being re elected. We because of Ron Paul are making a difference and growing.
We are getting more press for our causes and many are getting on board for fear of not being re elected. The house of cards is wobbling. We would have never have been doing theses things without RP
As usual the good DR is right
Years to get them out?
It would have taken less than two months.
We had elections right after the original October Banker Take Over bill ws passed and the people were ignored. Yet, almost every senator and congressman that ignored the people was re elected.
Just curious, what did you expect a non-violent libertarian to say to you?
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Liberty = Responsibility
Liberty = Responsibility
i sense your exasperation lies
i sense your exasperation lies in the contradiction in using politics to fix politics. the analogy you used is "fixing a broken hammer with a broken hammer."
that is because the problems we are facing cannot be solved politically, economically, and certainly not militarily. that is because our political decisions, economic decisions and military decisions all come from our root thoughts about life.
our policies will not change until we first change our thoughts about life. sure, we may alter our behavior temporarily, but that will only be short-lived, as we always inevitably revert back to our core beliefs about life.
the next revolution is not going to be a political one -- it's going to be a spiritual one.
we have to acknowledge that our beliefs about life are not working. and there are certain fallacies that we live by that are producing a dysfunctional word around us. the knowing of which, will change everything.
very true and thought provoking.
Thanks for posting that.
LivingTheDream
That is deep.
That is deep.
and oh so true
excellent post, troy.
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Are you a person?
Do you really control your own affairs?
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Are you a person?
Do you really control your own affairs?
Yes, we do need to vote them
Yes, we do need to vote them out. However, I think the Campaign for Liberty, along with everyone here at DP need to work together in making some serious campaigns against the fraudulent members of Congress. It isn't going to be easy.
Gary, you need to run for Congress
Your post was heartfelt, eloquent and spot on. I am saving your post for my own reference. We need people like you in office, fast.
get in office
Yes, Gary please run for some local office. City council or county commissioner. Get signatures for your petition to get on the ballot, and see how it goes. Even the water/sanitation board of directors has influence within the local GOP/Dem groups, and has the ability to tax.
Why wait for others who are in office to make the change you want? Bring your own change!
Checkmate?
Checkmate?
Well, what did you want him
Well, what did you want him to say... something that the DHS could arrest him for???
Maybe Ron Paul is disillusioned and discouraged, too. I mean, he's been at this longer than any of us and he's right there on the front lines. Imagine what type of person it takes to get out of bed every morning and to walk into work with people who are wholly against your opinions and philosophy all the time. Or how about knowing your entire company is fraudulent and everyone is on the take but you. How does a man find the motivation to do what he does?
Honestly, I'm just amazed the man hasn't gone postal or had a nervous breakdown by now....
If the entire process and
If the entire process and company is fraudelent, how did Ron Paul get involved and "hired"?
if you're trying to imply
if you're trying to imply that "they let him win" in order to have controlled opposition, well... no.
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Are you a person?
Do you really control your own affairs?
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Are you a person?
Do you really control your own affairs?
Do I need to answer this?
Do I need to answer this?
OK, it's simple, he thought he could make a difference and the voters believed in him.
The sign on Ron Paul's desk says it all. If you don't know what it says then you need to do more homework.
What did you expect him to say to you?
Shoot all the monster bankers?
Voting them out is the right, legit political step
Defeating the system from within is the...
only honorable method of approach. We need to fight the GOOD fight, untill the tyrants make it a BAD fight. Let them break the line, then, and only then, are we justified in defense beyond the standard systemic variables.
There's rules we need to follow, wether we want to or not. Don't jump early.
Assert Your Authority
Assert Your Authority
They'll be very cautious to not make it a BAD fight...
it's be the "death of a thousand cuts". "Boil the frog" slowly enough and we'll never know (sorry for the mixed metaphors!)
You are correct...
and our bandages and reserve blood lies in vigilant defense of the Bill of Rights.
Eventually they will have to play their hand if they wish to win the purse. We have to stay at the table, call their hand, and be ready for them to lay down their cards.
I believe they will make the critical mistake of believing they are in complete power, but theives never are owners, and those stolen from will seek redemption.
But, I do agree, the water's getting hot and the blood is starting to drip from too many cuts. MEDIC!
Assert Your Authority
Assert Your Authority
There are so many peaceful, lawful things we CAN do
But they will be meaningless without a coordinated effort. ONLY Dr. Paul has the credibility with everyone, ONLY he could solidify our movement. The best he offers is the CFL, and it is just not up to the job at hand, IMO.
True that.
True that.