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Pastor Steve Anderson's 4th of July Tea Party

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(Pastor who was tasered and beaten by border control checkpoint)

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Yea, he's a man all right!

People who think he's too extreme would have thought the same thing of our founding fathers.

We've got too many wusses behind pulpits who fleece the flock and bow to the IRS.

Pastors have every right to speak the truth in or out of their pulpits. If they are 501(c)3 churches, they need to burn their 501(c)3 papers and stand on their constitutional right to be free and speak the truth - even to power!

The reason Pastor Anderson is so refreshing is because most "preachers" are boring!

I know him and he does have guts. He walks the walk, homeschools his children and hates lies, especially religious lies.

He ruffles the feathers of most Baptist preachers.

Yea, we need a lot more like him!

skilled manipulator

Clearly, pastor Anderson, as a local, knew the BP checkpoint drills, knew they would be ham-handed and overbearing, and so, with camera pre-positioned, he provoked the tasering and he captured on a file what he wanted.

And pastor Anderson planned that the vid would go viral and draw a lot of site visits.

The question: why, and for what motive?

This is so far unclear to me. So, for some insight into him I watched some sermong vids and, time permitting, perhaps you may want to check some out at his site and/or YouTube.

From what I watched, first, I sense his congregation is very small. Second, he's an independent non-denominational, with a kind of conspiratorial 'fringe' message rather than a warm fuzz, and so is unlikely to grow as a church congregation. Conclusion: the tasering is a publicity event to expand his reach. He's a speaking talent, but not an inspiring spiritually uplifting sort of guy that suburbanites would want to listen to every week, especially with antsy kids to keep amused. So, he must pursue political ambitions and needs donor. I do love a man with strong convictions.

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Skilled Ignorant you are.

"We are all born ignorant, but must work to remain stupid." --Benjamin Franklin

"It is the first responsibility of every citizen to question authority." --Benjamin Franklin

"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty, than to those attending too small a degree of it." --Thomas Jefferson

He Was Standing Up for the Constitution!


Of course he was intentionally doing so! It should always be intentional.

Duh!

Most people don't and that's why you actually consider standing up for the Constitution abnormal or strange, chastising those that actually do, claiming it must just be a stunt, and instead preferring to go with the flow and be illegally stopped and searched without a second thought.

What a shame!


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Bravo!

wonderful speech.

If this guy was "trolling" for a fight

And the BP knew this, then they should have respected his rights. Instead, they resort to shock torture and battery, because that's the main thing they are there for. Obedience training can be violent. That's all the BP is doing.

Way to go Steve.

No mincing of words here. We need to think hard about freedom and straighten ourselves out.

AWESOME!


I saw this video at the top of the page the other day, but I just didn't take the time to watch it. I was kind of curious why it was at the top. Well, I just watched it, and now I know why this is at the top of the page!

Great passionate speech!


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'Pastors' Anderson and Sharpton....

...are cut from the same cloth. Both created bogus incidents (Anderson at the BP station) to gain notoriety.

Baldwin/Anderson? Please...!

Joe Ureneck
Boston Ron Paul 2008 Meetup

joeu is a Liar


Or amazingly ignorant.


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Both!!!!

He has to stop, but he does not have to consent to a warrant less search. You can't have the fifth amendment if you do not support the fourth amendment!

Bogus Incidents To Gain Notoriety???

What part of....

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

do you not understand???????

(you've been here almost 2 years joeu, how could you make a statement like that??? are you just pulling our legs or what???)
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Pulling legs...

...seems to be what the 'Pastor' is all about. Just like Sharpton.

The arguments that the BP stations are illegal is false in that the SCOTUS has approved them (whether you like that ruling or not) and so the BP officers are operating legally. Based on his videos Anderson was trolling the BP stations with the goal of starting a fight with them. After getting in their face for quite some time they used force, minimal force at that, to remove him the car. Anderson was clearly provoking them to take action. The blame rests with him, not the BP.

Two points more,

The BP stations/checkpoints are necessary to control illegal immigrant entry into this country. Most Americans are against illegal immigration and support the BP.

Real abuse and violence by police, like in this video, should always be condemned.
http://vodpod.com/watch/1553480-bumped-just-so-we-understand...

Nothing of this sort *remotely* occured with the BP (despite Anderson;'s histrionic attempts to play it up as such) whose actions were legal and involved minimal force. Anderson was clearly out to provoke the BP and so deserves neither sympathy nor support, especially if you favor apprehending illegal aliens, recognize the damage that would occur if the BP stations were not there and support national sovereignty.

Joe Ureneck
Boston Ron Paul 2008 Meetup

good one

Your comment made me laugh out loud. "The BP stations/checkpoints are necessary to control illegal immigrant entry into this country." Hahahahaha, oh man, that's a good one.

I guess you haven't noticed, but no one is controlling the illegal aliens.
Im from Texas and I see illegals everywhere,all the time,everyday.
BP are just there to hassle people and to catch only the most obvious and stupidest of law breakers and illegals, as well as rough up and scare Americans who go to Mexico for cheap pharmaseuticals.
They serve relatively little use under the current structure.

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You are right...

...about illegals being everywhere but it seems your solution, like many on this thread, is to throw the doors wide open. But you are mistaken about the Border Patrol-they are apprehending illegals in the mountains and on the roads.

Joe Ureneck
Boston Ron Paul 2008 Meetup

let's be clear

I didn't offer a solution. You offered your assumption of what my solution would be. Please point out where I said to have open borders.
I was just commenting on how funny I think your defense of the BP is.
The BP are not used effectively. I'm not anti-border patrol, but I am against wasting resources(money). They do not stop illegals at an overwhelmingly successful rate, hell, not even marginally successful. For every illegal they catch at a border stop, I wonder how many people's rights they violated in between? How many law abiding citizens were threatened and bullied?
More than likely almost everyone. IMO
Also, I think that within all law inforcement there is a culture of abuse against the general public and I feel, a general disdain for the public by the police. It has been captured time and time again, over and over.
In it's current state, Border Patrol is just not doing that great of a job.
They are wasting our money and giving us little to no effect on illegal immigration or drug trafficking.
You see illegals everywhere and you can get drugs in any and every city in the US.

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You are correct..

..I made an assumption based on your comments.

Regarding the success rate of the BP I agree that many, many illegals get past the gate and so more, not less, support is needed for the BP.. Even so, from 2005- 2008 more than 3 million illegals were apprehended by the Border Patrol in the southwest. Use a multiplier on these numbers of how many others would have followed them into the country and it's clear that BP is helping to stem the flow.

I do not agree that bullying and threats are a normal part of the BP routine. Quite the opposite. Are there rogue agents who may behave badly? LIkely yes, as in every law enforcement organization you can think of, even your local police department. This is a shortsighted reason however to attack the role the BP plays in trying to keep illegals out.

Joe Ureneck
Boston Ron Paul 2008 Meetup

these numbers are interesting

so,according to you, from 2005-2008 they apprehended 3 million illegals, so approx 1 million a year.
The budget for the Border poatrol for just ONE year (2006) comes in at 1.6 billion ( http://74.6.239.67/search/cache?ei=UTF-8&p=what+is+the+annua...)
as well as U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP), the parent agency of the Border Patrol within
the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), has seen its budget grow from $6 billion to
$9.3 billion between FY 2004 and FY 2008.
So what is the cost to apprehend, per illegal?

Still think they do the best job they can?
I would say they're just sucking up resources.

*side note* - I don't agree with you that border patrol is great,I think it needs to be dismantled and re-done from the ground up, but I got to give you props for debating the issue calmly. ;)

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A couple of points...

The numbers apprehended are for the Southwest. There are more appprehensions in other areas but likely much lower than in the SW.

I would add that if 3 million were not apprehended than the cost of them being here is multiplied through all the services that would accompany them (discussed by others on this thread) and that they would also trigger the additional and far reaching burdens-fiscal, political and cultural- associated with anchor babies, extended families, crime, etc.

You will not find me arguing in favor of bloated federal government agencies. I would assume there are excessive costs in 'administration' like every other fed. agency. I do say that the boots on the ground should be supported, especially the rank and file agents in the field who are doing a job that needs doing. Periodic dismantling and building from the ground up is always a good idea for organizations.

Is the BP 'great'? I woudn't go that far simply because it is a federal agency. There are a lot worse agencies though which do deserve criticism.

Joe Ureneck
Boston Ron Paul 2008 Meetup

No, you didn't listen to the video - stop the incentives!


Don't punish all Americans by forcing everyone to give up their liberties, the solution is to punish those that come here illegally, and don't give them any incentives for coming illegally in the first place.


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I agree...

..with both your second points and only add that even without incenitves many people in the world would still come here because life in the home country is so intolerable that being in a hell hole in the US is still better than back home.

Regarding "giving up liberty" at the BP stations- I don't buy it. Egregious government actions that deprive people of liberty do occur every day. More than enough concrete reasons to rail against the government. Aside from debatable infractions of constitutional theory, however, BP stations are not much more than a minor inconvenience even as they serve a very necessary purpose.

Joe Ureneck
Boston Ron Paul 2008 Meetup

Obviously BP isn't stemming illegals

I don't give a crap that the SCOTUS "approved" these checkpoints that are 50 miles into America. They violate the constitution. Period. These particular BP agents were on an obvious power trip and wanted to beat him up. I applaud Steve for pushing back. This is BS and we not gonna take it anymore. I urge you to read this:

http://www.larkenrose.com/tmds-blog/1894-youre-not-the-boss-...

I would not dispute the premise

..that the entire government is operating outside the constitution. But it doesn't help to promote actions that make our situation worse nor assume that every official government action, such as the BP stations, have no use. They do-unless you want completely open borders.

I dispute the statement about the BP being on a power trip . I think it was the other way around. Anderson was itching for a fight and now complains when he got one-no different than the tactics of Al Sharpton.

Joe Ureneck
Boston Ron Paul 2008 Meetup

completely ridiculous neo con propaganda

i would like to know exactly how effective border patrol checkpoints are fifty miles away from the border. and those actions were minimal and legal? wtf!? since when did a freedom loving person who supports sovereignty become an anti-constitution advocate?

and even if pastor anderson did drive there to do what you said. good! i don't call it provoking. i call it confronting! it's about damn time we all started doing that, and he definitely has my sympathy and support for doing just that. you can give yours to the rest of the neo cons.

how does a bp station 50 miles from the border

help control illegal immigration?

If they want to deport people I know of several communities where no one in it speaks anything but spanish. If the bp wanted to do a good job why dont they go to those well known communities and send them all south of the border?

This whole thing is about us getting used to the fifth and fourth ammendment bieng illigal.

Answer

"how does a bp station 50 miles from the border help control illegal immigration?"

The border crossing stations are dots on a border hundreds miles long. Bypass the border a few miles to either side and you're home free without the checkpoints further inland. No checkpoints and the immigrants invasion becomes a flood.

Joe Ureneck
Boston Ron Paul 2008 Meetup

Where do you live?

I live in S.C. and we have a flood already. If you dont see it I want to know where you live, or when you last got your eyes checked.

I agree with you...

......and so it is not in our (US citizen) interest to try and dismatle stations that do help stem the flood.

Joe Ureneck
Boston Ron Paul 2008 Meetup

I think the point is that they havent helped stem the flood

and worse they encourage people to give up their fourth and fifth amendment rights.

And no the ends do not justify the means espesially when the ends are leaving us no better off than the beginning

You are incorrect...

...they do help stem the flood, too little in my opoinon and that is why we need more of them not less.

When an illegal by-passes the offical entry point a few milesto either side it is a lot harder for them to walk 50 miles through desert and mountain to get past the stations on the road than it would be to walk only 2-3 miles and then get on the road. In that case, with no stations they would have a free pass into the country. Instead there is at least the attempt to apprehend them at the stations.

Joe Ureneck
Boston Ron Paul 2008 Meetup

That is like saying a popsicle stick

stems the tide of a flood. If they really wanted to stem it, all they would have to do is have a hotline to call whenever a government agency dealt with someone who could not speak english. It is amazing to me how many of these people cross the border and can not say two sentinces in english. I work for the school system, and they let hundreds of kids go to school here who can not speak english, instead of calling border patrol they send these kids by the bus loads to another school (besides the one they were dropped off at in the morning) to learn english. Everything is already well documented, no need to trample on the fourth or fifth amendment here, just have the school call immigration and pick them up at school (you know give the parents a really good reason to go back to mexico, or just have the kid tell them where they live and do a "sting" operation).

Could you imaging what would happen if hospitals made it their policy that no one that spoke spanish worked in an emergency room unless they worked for immigration? Or how about welfare, ss, ect?

The only reason why they have the border patrol set up fifty miles from the border is so that they can say hey look we are trying to do our job see, see, see. LOOK AT ME. and when somebody finnally has the courage to stand up to them they taze him (it was probably a slow night you know and they were getting bored). But seriously bp is making itself look like a joke with this kind of stuff.

Couldn't agree more...

...with the recommended actions at schools and hospitals. Deportation is the answer but it is not happening. In the meantime, the BP needs support and encouragement to do more

Joe Ureneck
Boston Ron Paul 2008 Meetup

Joeu you are fool. "All

Joeu you are fool.

"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent."
Thomas Jefferson

"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent."
Thomas Jefferson

More people should troll

BP stations and not give ground on their rights. Then, maybe the expectation by the BP that people should give ground on their rights will stop.

Start an anniversary thread next week to celebrate 2 yrs. on the Daily Paul. Mine's coming up in 5 weeks.

please.. right back at you.

that has to be the most idiotic statement i've heard in a while. i suppose you want everyone who gets their face slammed into a pile of glass for standing up for their rights to just hide under the same blanket as everyone else who doesn't care to stand up for their rights as well.

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Bogus? You call getting electrocuted and having your face shoved into broken glass a bogus incident?

Everyone needs to wake up.

Not just Christians.

~I like Ron Paul because he doesn't lie~

Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes the laws - Mayer Amschel Rothschild

There Needs to be a Major Movement

among conservative Christians in the US. I have been hoping that would happen ever since reading my favorite third-party rallying cry on Lew Rockwell: http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig9/dilsaver1.html. I guess a lot of others are too, since I remember this above article to be a runaway favorite for the week on LRC (most read, emailed, printed, etc) when it was posted and by evidence of the below commentary. True Christianity does not worship at the altar of the State!

The Church in America

I believe that Dr. Chuck Baldwin has essentially said that if the Church in America were to wake up to the tyranny all around us, we would be able to win back the republic quickly.

That's right

When the Christians realize that they have been hijacked by the neocons (new conservatives), and the Catholics realize that they have been hijacked by the Jesuits, and the Jews realize they have been hijacked by the Zionists, THEN we are finally getting someplace. Get voter fraud fixed and we are on our way back to freedom.

YOU'RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME!

[The following is a written adaption of a talk given by Larken Rose
in Philadelphia, in front of Independence Hall, on July 4th, 2009.]

. YOU'RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME!

Two hundred and thirty-three years ago, in Philadelphia, a bunch of
guys got together and wrote a letter to their king. The letter was
very eloquent, and well thought out, but it basically boiled down
to this:

"Dear King George,

You're not the boss of us!

Sincerely,

A Bunch of Troublemakers"

That's essentially what the Declaration of Independence was: a
bunch of radicals declaring that they would no longer recognize the
right of their king to rule them, at all, ever again. They went on
to create a new boss, which turned into a new oppressor, but we'll
get to that in a moment. First, let's consider the essence of that
attitude: "You're not the boss of me!"

This July 4th, like every year, millions of Americans are
celebrating Independence Day with various parades, picnics,
fireworks, and so on. But how many of those people celebrating have
ever actually considered what the Declaration was actually about,
and what the colonists actually did? The colonists did not merely
beg the king to change his ways. In fact, the Declaration explains
how they had tried that, to no avail. Instead, the colonists were
doing something far more drastic.

In short, they committed treason. They broke the law. They
disobeyed their government. They were traitors, criminals and tax
cheats. The Boston Tea Party was not merely a tax protest, but open
lawlessness. Furthermore, truth be told, some of the colonists were
even cop-killers. At Lexington, when King George's "law enforcers"
told the colonists to lay down their guns, the colonists responded
with, "No, you're not the boss of us!" (Well, that was the meaning,
if not the exact verbiage.) And so we had "The Shot Heard 'Round
the World," widely regarded as the beginning of the American
Revolution.

Looking back now, we know the outcome. We know who eventually won,
and we don't mind cheering for the rebels. But make no mistake:
when you cheer for the founders of this country, you are cheering
for law-breakers and traitors. As well you should. But, for all the
flag-waving and celebrating that goes on every July 4th, do
Americans actually believe in what the colonists did? Do they
really believe in the attitude expressed in the Declaration of
Independence? Are they really still capable of supporting a mantra
of "You're not the boss of me!"?

In, short, no. Imagine the equivalent of what the colonists did so
many years ago, being done today. Imagine a group of people writing
a letter to the United States government, sending a letter to
Congress and to the President, saying that they would no longer pay
federal taxes, they would no longer obey federal laws, and that
they would resist--by force, if necessary--any attempt by federal
agents to enforce those laws. How would a group which did such
things be viewed today, by most Americans?

They would be viewed as nut-cases, scofflaws and terrorists,
despicable criminals and malcontents. They would be scorned as the
scum of the earth, despised by just about everyone who today
celebrates Independence Day.

How ironic.

So why the double standard? Why would the American public today
condemn the exact same attitudes and behaviors which they glorify
and praise in the context of the American Revolution? Quite simply,
it's because, for all the proud talk of "land of the free and home
of the brave," the spirit of resistance--the courage to say "You're
not the boss of us!"--has been trained out of the American people.

We have become a nation of wimps.

For years and years, in the churches and schools, on the news, in
the media, and from everywhere around us, we have been taught one
thing above all else: that obedience to authority is the highest
virtue, and that disobedience is the worst sin. As a result, even
most of those who now claim to be zealous advocates for individual
rights and personal liberty will almost always couch their
"demands" with disclaimers that, of course, their efforts for
justice will be done "within the system," and that they would never
advocate anything "illegal." They claim to be devout proponents of
freedom, and yet all they ever do is seek a political solution,
whether through lobbying of politicians, elections, or other
government-approved means.

Of course, government never approves of anything which might
actually endanger government power. As the bumper-sticker says, "If
voting made a difference, it would be illegal." And why should
civilized people assume that change must be done "legally" and
"within the system"? That is obviously NOT what the Declaration of
Independence was about. In fact, the Declaration states quite
plainly that when a government ceases to be a protector of
individual liberty, it is not only the right, but the DUTY of the
people to ALTER or ABOLISH that form of government. In other words,
when the government becomes an oppressor, instead of a protector--
as is obviously the case today--the people are morally obligated to
adopt an attitude of, "You're not the boss of us!"

So how many Americans are doing that? Almost none. Instead, even
the most vocal critics of corruption and injustice usually do
little more than banging their heads against a brick wall, begging,
in half a dozen different ways, for the tyrants to please be nicer
to us. (Meanwhile, they go to great lengths to distance themselves
from people like me, for fear of what the general public might
think of them. As a result, I believe the general public, and those
in government, view them pretty much as I view them: as harmless
and irrelevant conformists, destined to forever beg for freedom,
and never achieve it.)

Make no mistake, begging and whining is not what the Declaration of
Independence was about. It was about breaking the law, when the law
is unjust. It was about committing treason, when the rulers became
oppressive. It was about disobedience--civil disobedience, when
effective, and not-so-civil disobedience when necessary. It was
about open resistance, including violent resistance when called
for.

So where is that attitude today? Where is the candidate advocating
such a thing? Patrick Henry, Thomas Paine, Samuel Adams--where are
the modern equivalents? For all the whining about extremists, where
are those willing to openly resist injustice? Not only don't most
Americans believe in resisting tyranny, they feel extremely
uncomfortable just hearing others talk about it, even in abstract
terms (like this).

Maybe it's just that we're not quite at the level of oppression to
justify resistance. Is that it? Hardly. If two or three percent
taxation justified rebellion in 1776, why doesn't fifty percent
taxation justify it now? If a few puny excise taxes on tea and
pieces of paper justified it then, why don't the myriad of
unavoidable, crushing taxes at all levels, and the hordes of
callous, vindictive tax collectors justify it now? If the
relatively unusual cases of Redcoats abusing colonists justified it
then, why doesn't it justify it when American police see no problem
with randomly stopping, detaining, interrogating and searching
anyone they want, whenever they want, for any reason or no reason
at all?

Does anyone think Thomas Jefferson, if he were alive today, would
quietly allow himself to be strip-searched, and allow his
belongings to be rummaged through, by some brain-dead TSA thug?
Read the Fourth Amendment. They had a revolution over that sort of
thing. Does anyone think that Patrick Henry would take kindly to
being robbed blind to pay for whatever war-mongering the
politicians wanted to engage in this week? Read what the Founders
said about standing armies. They had a revolution over that sort of
thing. Think James Madison would go along with being disarmed, by
the various state and federal control freaks? Read the Second
Amendment. They had a revolution over that sort of thing. Think
George Washington would be happy to have both his earnings and
savings constantly looted by a parasite class, to pay for all
manner of wealth redistribution, political handouts and other
socialist garbage? Think Thomas Paine would gladly be extorted to
give all his money to some giant, failed corporation or some huge
international bank? Think the founders would have quietly gone
along with what this country has become today? Think they would
have done nothing more than vote, or whine?

Well, the founders are dead. And, unfortunately, so is their spirit
of resistance. In short, just about all of the flag-waving and
celebrating that happens every July 4th is nothing but empty
hypocrisy. How many Americans today can say, loudly and proudly,
like they mean it, "Give me liberty or give me death!"? Or, at
least, in the modern vernacular, "You're not the boss of me!"?
Anyone? In this nation that imagines itself to be the land of the
free and the home of the brave, where are those who dare to resist,
or even dare to talk about it? And I don't mean voting, or whining
to your congressman, or begging your masters to not whip you so
hard. I'm talking about resisting, refusing to obey.

America, where is your Independence Day pride now? Exactly what are
you proud of? I have a message for you, from a guy named Sam.
Samuel Adams, that is. Yeah, the beer guy. But he did a little more
for this country than make beer. Here is his message:

"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of
servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home
from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and
lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon
you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen."

When's the last time you heard a modern so-called "statesman" say
something like that?

So what happened? When did Americans lose their ability to say,
"You're not the boss of me," and why? Yes, most people are scared,
and for good reason. With the capacity for violence of the current
police state, and the willingness of the politicians and their
thugs to crush anyone who threatens their power, everyone has to
choose his battles carefully, and decide for himself what he's
willing to risk, what is worth fighting for and what isn't.

That makes sense, but there is more to it than just fear. Because
not only won't most Americans resist, but they will condemn anyone
who does. If you do what the founders did, most people in this
country would call you a tax cheat, a malcontent, a criminal, a
traitor, even a terrorist. Why? Why do Americans now vehemently
condemn those who say and do exactly what the Founders did a couple
hundred years ago? When did our priorities and view of the world
change so drastically, and why?

I'll tell you why. Gradually, and very systematically, we have been
trained to measure our own worth, not by what we produce, not by
how we treat other people, but by how well we obey authority.
Consider the term, "law abiding taxpayer." How many people wear
that label as a badge of honor? "I am a law-abiding taxpayer!" When
they say that, they mean, "I'm a good person." But is that what it
really means?

Well, "law-abiding" just means that you do whatever the politicians
tell you to do. We speak with great reverence of this thing called
"the law," as if it is the decree of the gods, which no decent
human being would dare to disobey. But what is it really? It's
whatever the politicians decide to command you to do. Why on earth
would anyone think that obedience to a bunch of liars and crooks is
some profound moral obligation? Is there any reason for us to treat
with reverence such commands and demands? No rational reason, no.
The only reason we do it is because we have been trained to do it.

Some might point out that obeying the laws against theft and murder
is a good thing to do. Well, yes and no. It is good to refrain from
committing theft and murder, but it is NOT because "the law" says
so. It is because theft and murder are inherently wrong, as they
infringe upon the rights of others. And that was true before any
politician passed a "law" about it, and will be true even if they
"legalize" theft and murder (as every government has done, in the
name of "taxation" and "war"). What is right and wrong does not at
all depend upon what is "legal" or "illegal." And if you need
POLITICIANS to tell you what is right and what is wrong, you need
your head examined. Instead, you should judge the validity of so-
called "laws" by whether they match what is inherently right and
wrong. Thomas Jefferson put it this way:

"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will
within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do
not add 'within the limits of the law,' because the law is often
but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of
the individual."

So why should anyone be proud of being "law-abiding," when all it
means is blindly obeying whatever arbitrary commands the parasite
class spews out this week? And pride in being a "taxpayer" is no
better, since all that phrase means is that you give the
politicians lots of money. When, exactly, did obeying politicians
and giving them money become the measure of whether you're a good
person?

Consider Nazi Germany. Were the law-abiding taxpayers in Nazi
Germany the good guys? No. By obeying the so-called "laws" of that
time, the majority allowed, or even assisted in, a nearly
incomprehensible level of evil. And by being "taxpayers," they
provided the funding for it. No, the good people in Germany were
the criminals and tax cheats, who refused to assist, even
passively, in the oppressions done in the name of "government."

The same is true under the regimes of Stalin, Lenin, Mao, Pol Pot,
Castro--you can go right down the list (and it's a very long list).
Under every nasty regime in history, the obedient subjects, who
quietly did as they were told, the law-abiding taxpayers, were not
the good guys. The law-breakers and rebels, the so-called traitors
and terrorists, those were the good guys. How about in this
country, when slavery was legal? The cowards were the ones obeying
the law, while the good guys broke it.

How about here, today? Is it good to fund what the government is
doing? Do you have some moral obligation to give your "fair share"
of however many thousands of dollars, so Obama can give it to his
banker buddies? Is it noble to fund whatever war the politicians
decide to engage in this week? Do you like paying for the detention
and torture of people who haven't been convicted, or even charged
with any crime? (By the way, instead of doing away with that, Obama
just gave it a new name: preventative detention.) Is it some great
virtue to have helped to finance the police state growing up all
around you, on both the federal and state levels? In short, is
being a "law-abiding taxpayer" really something you should be proud
of, or is it something you should be ashamed of?

Over time we have forgotten a very important secret--a secret the
control freaks don't want you to know; a secret some of the
Founders hinted at, though even most of them didn't seem to fully
grasp it. Ready for it?

You own yourself.

You are not the property of the politicians, or anyone else. I own
me, and you own you. Each of you owns himself. Sounds simple
enough, right? And most people respond with, "Well duh, of course.
That's no secret. We knew that." But in reality most people don't
know that.

If you own yourself, would anyone have the right to take, without
your consent, the fruits of your labor? What you earn, with your
time and effort, does anyone have the right to take that from you
by force? Of course not, most will answer. Really? And what if they
call it "taxation"? "Oh, well, that's different." No, it isn't.

If you own yourself, would anyone have the right to force you to
pay rent for a house you already paid for, under threat of taking
your house away? Of course not. What if they call it "property
taxes"? Oh, that's different. No, it isn't. And you can go right
down the list: if you truly own yourself, the vast majority of so-
called "laws," at all levels, are absolutely illegitimate. As
Jefferson put it, ANY so-called "law" that infringes upon
individual liberty--which is dang near all of them--is inherently
bogus.

But let's take it one step further. If you own yourself--your life,
liberty and property--doesn't that imply that you have the right to
defend those things from any and all aggressors? Yes. What if the
aggressors call themselves "government" and call their attacks and
robberies "law" and "taxes"? You still have the right. Changing the
name of an act cannot make something bad into something good. And
if you have the right to defend your life, liberty and property
from all aggressors, it stands to reason that you have the right to
equip yourself to do so. In other words, you have the right to be
armed--the right to possess the equipment to exert whatever force
is necessary to repel any attempts to infringe upon your rights to
life, liberty and property.

I know it makes people uncomfortable (especially people who work
for the government) when I say the following: I want every sane,
adult American to have the ability to use force, including deadly
force, against government agents. I don't want people randomly
gunning down cops, but I do want the people to retain the ability
to forcibly resist their own government. The very concept bothers a
lot of people, but what is the alternative? The alternative is
something a lot scarier: that the people should NOT have the means
to resist their own government.

But, once again, even most people who claim to be vehemently pro-
freedom, don't like to talk about what that really means. Many "gun
rights" organizations, for example, go to great lengths to beg the
politicians to LET them remain armed. Why? At Lexington, when the
British troops told the colonists to lay down their weapons, what
was the response? Did the colonists say, "Awe, can't we keep them,
pretty please?"? No, they had a very different attitude, something
alone the lines of, "You're not the boss of us!"

If you own yourself--and this is a big one--it is not only your
right, but your most profound obligation as a human being, to judge
for yourself what is right and wrong, and to act accordingly. But
what if people claiming to be "authority" want to force you to do
something contrary to what you deem to be right? Do you have an
obligation to obey them, and ignore your own conscience? No. What
if their threats are called "legislation"? It makes no difference.

You are always, at all times, in every situation, obligated to do
what you deem right, no matter what so-called "government" and
"authority" and "law" have to say about it. And when the tyrants
and control freaks, authoritarian thugs and megalomaniacs, try to
tell you that are an evil, nasty, despicable criminal and traitor
for daring to think for yourself, you have a right and duty to
stand firm, and say, with confidence, "You are not the boss of me!"

Larken Rose
http://www.larkenrose.com

Larken is DA MAN!

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Excellent Speech

Christians need to wake up. Next it could be the freedom they hold dearest, their freedom of religion. I am concerned, though, because this guy is pretty extreme in his beliefs to the right and he can be a real put off and viewed as a trouble maker.

Healthnut4freedom

"Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct thy paths." Proverbs 3:5,6

Healthnut4freedom

"Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct thy paths." Proverbs 3:5,6

What he says...

What he says is correct, how he says it will turn people away. He should also point out that there are wonderful people running for office that hold those beliefs and need to be supported...like Rand Paul, RJ Hariss, Adam Kokesh. Then he needs to tell them to get to their legislative district meetings and become PCs. In AZ if only aprox 400 more people would have done that...There would have been enough delegates fromAZ to make change.

He should also encourage people to run for office and then get behind those people and work damn hard for them.

wish i could be there

=)

Holy $hit... pardon the pun but he nailed it!

If you want to choose between two parties try the libertairian and constitutional parties... This guy made me want to get funky with the cheese wiz!

"Hell is truth seen too late...duty neglected in its season."- Tryon Edwards

"Human beings with love and compassion are some of the most beautiful creatures in the universe... Those without are a plague on us all."

A passionate speech

God bless him.