"The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government -- lest it come to dominate our lives and interests."
-- Patrick Henry

to be honest... I think the

On July 11th, 2009 bad_karma says:

to be honest... I think the daily paul has lost a lot with the bannings..

you are right, bad_karma...

On July 14th, 2009 ecorob says:

we lost patriots who would take a bullet for one another in exchange for puppets who owe allegiance to no one but themselves...(and their masters)

i wish oruval and sierra could come back (if, in fact, they are truly banned and are not just "away" because of their own choosing)

i think they could be very effective just giving an opposing view to the "company store" mentality and the "sucking up" attitude that people like rhino and his minions exhibit here daily (see below)...

now, you see, I disagreed without being distasteful...and it was easy!

O Captain, My Captain, rise up and hear the bells!

To be accurate ...

On July 10th, 2009 rhino says:

I do not think that it is probable that 9/11 was an IJ.

I have never said that I do not believe that 9/11 was an IJ.

I do not believe that it is probable or likely.

I have also said that I hope that some day that I am proven wrong and that all the evidence is released to the public and that it proves fairly conclusively that an IJ did occur. It will make our job a lot easier.

But don't count on it.

Why does the IJ and CD crowd insist on bending my words?

And why don't people realize the most important phrase in my statements about 9/11.

"BUT DON'T COUNT ON IT !!!!!"

AJ counted on it and he will be toast in a matter of a few years if not months.

WAHOR!!
http://www.dailypaul.com/...

says you...

On July 14th, 2009 ecorob says:

and, accuracy?

only in your dreams...

O Captain, My Captain, rise up and hear the bells!

Rhino, google and youtube

On July 14th, 2009 Ira Freeman says:

Rhino, google and youtube Building 7! If you don't get it after that then you never will!!! If you don't believe IJ or CD, what do you believe?

You Judge A Tree By It's Fruit, NOT its Flower

Google big foot.

On July 14th, 2009 rhino says:

I like this analogy because the evidence of the existence of such a creature is growing and it is possible that big foot exists.

But if you google it ...

How could you have any doubt that it exists? The threads are overwhelmingly in favor of its existence.

Does that mean it exists?

WAHOR!!
http://www.dailypaul.com/...

I'm not going to argue with

On July 14th, 2009 Ira Freeman says:

I'm not going to argue with you. Because when you argue with a fool, two fools are arguing!

BTW, I did google bigfoot and I see no evidence of its existence growing, and there are not threads overwhelming in favor of its existence, unlike 911 truth! ZZZZZAAAAAAAPPPPPP

You Judge A Tree By It's Fruit, NOT its Flower

You don't?

On July 11th, 2009 SimpleSam says:

You don't believe 9-11 was an inside job!?

So then all of this was basically....just one little co-incidence right

http://www.whatreallyhapp...
http://www.whatreallyhapp...
Zionist Ensor Harasses Congress, Senate, 911 Activists
http://onlinejournal.com/...

http://www.911blogger.com

Are you saying that the jews were involved?

On July 11th, 2009 rhino says:

WAHOR!!
http://www.dailypaul.com/...

Way to simplify it...

On July 11th, 2009 SimpleSam says:

No..
I'm saying both Israel and the MIC were involved, which means some of the actual instigators of 9-11 were Zionist Jews.

Now is that so hard to believe? The cabal of Zionist Jews, Zionist Christians orchestrated the 9-11 attacks on America. Is that too hard to believe?

Look at the evidence and think real hard....
Neocons took over the NSA as Esnor got promoted. The same people who owned those towers work for the DoD, Bankers, Israel Government...Even Lauder and Chertoff worked for them...

LOL ...

On July 11th, 2009 rhino says:

and lock.

WAHOR!!
http://www.dailypaul.com/...

Is it funny....

On July 11th, 2009 SimpleSam says:

Because it's true and obvious that it's true?

http://www.rys2sense.com/...
Or is it funny because you can't handle the truth...I've seen a lot of people go through stages of that before they accept the Zionists & Bankers did 9-11...

The evidence accumulated, becomes undeniable to any person...

You'll never crack rhino

On July 11th, 2009 MikeLawson says:

The good news is, he's not in denial of anything, just not prepared to enter a decision. I respect that position.
Don't forget the 4 Mossad guys caught videotaping the FIRST impact and cheering. Consider this too: both 9-11 and 9-11 truth could be mossad operations. Perfect way to pit nations against each other AND the people against the government. Israel doesn't fight conventionally--they use others to do the fighting for them; it's kind of a "he's talking about your mama" strategy they employ.

It is always profitable...

On July 14th, 2009 elrococco says:

to think like the enemy. It is always humbling to understand your adversary. And it is required that one respect another, for if all you do is thrash, then you refuse to think or understand.

I like your thinking Mike, you never cease to amaze me.

Assert Your Authority

you'll never crack him because he is a zionist!

On July 14th, 2009 ecorob says:

...and, what's more, he is proud to be a zionist...do you think he will ever admit that 9/11 was a coverup perpetrated by rogue elements of our government that especially includes dual citizenship israeli/americans, as well as mossad?

no...he is too busy continuing his banter here (while oruval and sierra are banned...go figure)

wahor...yeah, that's right

O Captain, My Captain, rise up and hear the bells!

And Rich Lauder has always been a left-wing hardcore Zionist.

On July 14th, 2009 SimpleSam says:

A decision rendered in the abscence of all the facts ...

On July 11th, 2009 rhino says:

is a decision to choose insanity or worse, a choice not to exist.

If you make a decision before you have all the evidence, you are acting like an animal that can only act on instinct. That makes you an animal, not a human. So you do not exist, you are not human.

That is the objectivist point of view.

And one of those, I am.

A conscience, I choose.

I reserve mysticism and faith only for those areas that can never be proven.

WAHOR!!
http://www.dailypaul.com/...

don't go into business or management anytime soon

On July 14th, 2009 phathead says:

Best mangers make decisions with only 65%-75% of all the facts and information on hand. In fact they would be crazy not too. The best ones get it right the first time, but that's rare they actual change their decisions fluidly as more information comes in.

Just thought I would throw that out there as I disagree with your philosophical statement. Most humans are smart enough to forecast and predict outcomes with only a sliver of information on hand. Some even have balls enough to be wrong every now and again. What you are holding out for isn't some sort of philosophical high ground or some sort of scientific procedural point. Its got more to do with your ego than anything I would imagine. B/c it obvious to every rational person we will never know the absolute truth about 9/11.

An excellent point ...

On July 14th, 2009 rhino says:

but based on that ...

you would be a bad manager if your business survival relied on you making an accurate decision about 9/11 and you went in favor of IJ and CD. You would put your company into bankruptcy.

A good manager would be able to ride a fence or profit from both sides until such time as enough knowledge was gained to be fairly certain of the outcome.

WAHOR!!
http://www.dailypaul.com/...

didn't you used to work for prescott bush...

On July 14th, 2009 ecorob says:

sounds just like nazi profiteering to me...

O Captain, My Captain, rise up and hear the bells!

zing!

On September 1st, 2009 oruval says:

lol

rhino...

On July 14th, 2009 ecorob says:

flawed from birth

O Captain, My Captain, rise up and hear the bells!

Sweet friend,

On July 10th, 2009 Jiminy Cricket says:

People are not upset here because Rhino is Catholic or about his beliefs regarding 9/11.

all I say is

On July 10th, 2009 legalizeliberty says:

there is a place for him among us....
it hurts me to see him attacked over and over again about the very same things.....

sweet friend Jiminy
I just hate to see some person here being hurt by comments...

Rhino knows he has some work to do in order to shine his heart the best way.................................yeah,..........what can I say.........we all have lots of work to do to improve our ways.

I don't think you understand what happened in this thread.

On July 10th, 2009 Jiminy Cricket says:

This was about more than Rhino.

After what happened below that included the banning of another long time member, I found Rhino's "enjoy it" comment extremely distasteful.

Unlike Rhino, I will not be rejoicing over what happened.

If that is what you think I meant, then you are mistaken.

On July 10th, 2009 rhino says:

I should have been more clear.

WAHOR!!
http://www.dailypaul.com/...

I guess maybe you should have, because frankly,Rhino...

On July 10th, 2009 Jiminy Cricket says:

I'm really at a loss to find anything to be directing people to enjoy.

Shall I recap?

You posted this thread, meant to take a cheap shot, under the guise of saying something positive about the dailypaul.

You fell all over yourself to take pot shots at Sentinel when he replied about a keyword in connection with what you posted.

I offered some validation for what he said and asked if maybe you were being a bit heavy handed toward him... and you insulted me.

I changed the subject and we finished off ok.

Someone came in later to start trouble.

I tried to send out a warning that you and others would see, so as not to take the bait.

Dale in Oklahoma unfortunately took the bait.

Michael banned Dale, responding with something offensive himself, and ONCE AGAIN missed the elephant in the room.

People got upset. Michael responded, but only to parts of their complaints, still ignoring the obvious.

You came in a little bit ago talking about the comments below and told people to "enjoy it" and learn from it.

Rhino, for the life of me, I can't find the comments below that we're supposed to be enjoying. Perhaps you could help me out with that.

What I meant was the the site traffic is growing ...

On July 11th, 2009 rhino says:

so figure out why and keep heading in that direction.

Not sure about your summary.

Your first premise is entirely incorrect. And I think that is why you have assumed what you have assumed. You are looking at things with blinders on.

I merely wanted to inform everyone that this place is beginning to become more popular. For whatever reason.

And to figure out why and learn from it.

Pot shot at sentinal?

WAHOR!!
http://www.dailypaul.com/...

its ALL because of you, rhino...

On July 14th, 2009 ecorob says:

this site grows daily because you grace its borders...you are the man!

MN should would do well to ask your advice every single day! how did he ever get the site up without your help?

you have chased off all of the "worthless" followers of the DP with your "role" as standard bearer! MN "loves" the way you operate...the way you clear out all of the riffraff

please snuggle up to him a little more...it gives me a nice, warm, fuzzy feeling inside to see you getting along so swimmingly!...i am so jealous of you and your "place" here

site growth, you say ? hmmmmm....i fear the quality of the site is failing when, oruval, sierra, and now, dale in oklahoma are gone....but, hey, that's just me

keep up the good work, "role" playa...you are doing an outstanding job...pretty soon, this site will be completely made over in your own image...watered down, diluted, and full of insignificance...that is your role!

O Captain, My Captain, rise up and hear the bells!

If the discussion below hadn't taken a far different turn...

On July 11th, 2009 Jiminy Cricket says:

.. after you left the other night, I might have believed that.

And no, you didn't want to "merely" inform everyone. You prove that by your attached remarks and innuendos.

You sowed seeds that overshadowed any sincerity you might have otherwise had with this topic.

...and you reaped accordingly. :(

If you wish to have constructive, fruitful harvest, please stop mingling bad seeds along with your good seeds.

Look at all the trouble this thread started

On July 10th, 2009 sentinel says:

It attracted all the morons and attention whores on the site and that's gotta be a bad thing. It's been going on for a while now and it's getting worse . I made my opinion clear that Rhino should not have been let back but I'll take the same road as the rest of the regulars if this place gets more sanitized.

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