-19 votes

LIVE: Open Debate Thread 10/16/12

Debate Live Stream:


Also Debate Stream and Live Chat: (Thanks DP'er 12th Knight)

71 votes

Ben Swann: Why Media Won't Talk About Executive Orders


Executive Order 11110 was issued by U.S. President John F. Kennedy on June 4, 1963.

This executive order delegated to the Secretary of the Treasury the President's authority to issue silver certificates.

Link to the full speech below, for those interested:

17 votes

Report: Iran Plotting to Spill Oil in Strait of Hormuz

CNBC: Iran is secretly planning to spill oil into the Strait of Hormuz as revenge for Western sanctions, according to Der Spiegel.

The German news weekly claims to have spoken to Western intelligence sources who say they have obtained Iran's classified report on the operation, which has the potential to create an environmental disaster.

Code-named "Murky Water," the plan allegedly involves steering an Iranian supertanker, capable of carrying hundreds of thousands of barrels of oil, onto a rock.

According to Der Spiegel:

91 votes

GOP 2012, by Kevin Tuma

First spotted at: Liberty for All

21 votes

Justice Department seeks dismissal of Fast and Furious lawsuit

WASHINGTON – The Justice Department on Monday night sought dismissal of a lawsuit by a Republican-led House of Representatives committee demanding that Attorney General Eric Holder produce records about the botched law enforcement probe of gun-trafficking called Operation Fast and Furious.

President Barack Obama has invoked executive privilege and the attorney general has been found to be in contempt of Congress for refusing to turn over documents that might explain what led the Justice Department to reverse course after initially denying that federal agents had used a controversial tactic called gun-walking in the failed law enforcement operation. The tactic resulted in hundreds of illegally acquired weapons purchased at Arizona gun shops winding up in Mexico, where many of them were recovered from crime scenes. Two guns in Operation Fast and Furious were found on the U.S. side of the border at the scene of a shooting in which U.S. border agent Brian Terry was killed. In a Feb. 4, 2011, letter to Congress, the Justice Department said that agents made every effort to interdict weapons that have been purchased illegally and prevent their transportation to Mexico, which turned out to be incorrect. Ten months later, the department withdrew the letter.

49 votes

Meet The 17-Year-Old Who Blew The Lid Off Racial Profiling With His iPod

"We're going to go out there and violate some rights." Hear the secret police recordings that will take your breath away. In a bad way.


16 votes

Electric Car Battery Maker A123 Systems Files Bankruptcy

A123 Systems Inc. (AONE), a maker of rechargeable lithium-ion batteries for electric cars, filed for bankruptcy after failing to make a debt payment that was due yesterday.

The company listed assets of $459.8 million and debt of $376 million as of Aug. 31 in Chapter 11 documents filed today in U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Wilmington, Delaware. Chapter 11 is the section of the Bankruptcy Code used by companies to reorganize.

-77 votes

Prominent Ron Paul National Delegate Endorses Mitt Romney


In a stunning turn of events recently, established Maine businesswoman and Ron Paul-supporting National Delegate to the Republican National Convention Linda Bean endorsed Mitt Romney for President. Her endorsement is significant because of her position in the liberty movement and the Republican Party.

32 votes

John Williams

This is John Williams of Shadow Stats that Ron Paul mentioned in his Monday weekly update. This is from 10/9/12 fairly interesting, never listened to him before.


89 votes

Politico: "Perhaps they all should consult Ron Paul"

A gaggle of former Republican presidential candidates dedicated to slashing the national debt have failed to pay off their own.

Chief among them: Newt Gingrich, whose campaign owed more than $4.9 million as of Sept. 30 to dozens of different creditors, new federal records show.

Unpaid bills for telemarketing, travel, advertising, ballot fees, event production, Web hosting, equipment rentals and consulting and legal services rank among the reasons for the debt.

Remarkably, Gingrich’s debt grew by over $50,000 in the third quarter of 2012 despite his having long dropped out of the presidential race. Gingrich campaign expenses of late ranged from salaries and travel to consulting and telecom services.

27 votes

What Will Austerity Look Like in the United States?

Establishmentarian Media, particularly of the Neocon variety, suggests that the people of Spain somewhat deserve what is going on because of their dependence on government to begin with. I passed along the video of police beating people in the streets of Madrid to a friend and he responded with

"Obviously I don't agree with cops giving people beat downs in the streets....buuuuuut. My guess is these people are all protesting austerity measures so they've already willfully given up their liberty to the state."

It is much more complicated than this, and I would like to get your thoughts on the "Oh well the Spanish people should of saw it coming" position. Obviously Austerity is coming to America (and we have gotten some "glimpses" of it already)I would be interested in getting the DP communities thoughts as to what austerity will look like in the United States and in what ways will Americans themselves be culpable? I guess this could be "A put ourselves in the shoes of the average citizen in Spain" type of exercise? Thank You.

24 votes

Email Inbox Not Private, Says South Carolina Court

The South Carolina Supreme Court has ruled a man’s privacy was not violated when his wife’s daughter-in-law managed to get into his email and find out the name of his lover because the messages remained in his inbox.

In their unanimous ruling, the justices decided the woman did not violate a 1986 federal law about email storage and ruled a lawsuit from the husband could not go forward.

But the justices also pointed out that just because they ruled the woman didn’t violate the husband’s privacy, it didn’t mean they liked what she did.

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