• Here is what Dr. Paul said:

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul338.html

    "Economic freedom, i.e. capitalism, now has a strong foothold in China. "

    Not the same as a "strong element of economic freedom", but whatever. Maybe not a lie, but disingenuous at best.

    I disagree with Dr. Paul in this instance. There can never be economic "freedom" alongside a brutal communist dictatorship which denies basic human rights. And I know, for the benefit of those lesser intellectually-inclined readers, that the united States is not currently any model of economic freedom or basic human rights either. But it is my country and I'll be damned if we're turned into Communist China while I still have breath.

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    "...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy

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    "...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy

  • Nystrom: China enjoys what appears to be a "free market economy"

    Thanks for clearing that up for everyone. I'll be finding a new website to call home where the owner does not believe that communist China is anything resembling a "free market economy". Deal with it. I know it doesn't make an iota of difference to you, except that you said you received a lot of complaints about this thread so that will no longer be of concern.

    If I see you in person again, as I did at the leadership summit, I'll tell you what I really think of you now.

    I believe in what Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. said, "injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."

    For the sake of those with smaller minds who may be reading, I do not mean that in the sense that I favor the use of force by our illegitimate government to impose 'justice' upon the Chinese. It is simply a moral position that I hold to be true.

    Good luck with your Daily Paul troll convention of "random dudes" who argue that gravity is a horizontal force, Mr. Nystrom.

    Has Capitalism Failed? by Ron Paul

    That concludes my "Dear Daily Paul" letter.

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    "...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy

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    "...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy

  • PLEASE [Expletive deleted] OFF

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    "...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy

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    "...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy

  • YOU ARE A TROLL, DEFINITELY NOT A LIBERTARIAN

    Get used to it folks. They'll have us speaking Chinese in this country before long.

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    "...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy

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    "...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy

  • I'M SICK AND TIRED OF THE TROLLS...

    DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT?

    If I wanted to listen to lies, I'd turn on the idiot box. But instead, I come on the DP and it's a troll convention where China is a "free" market "capitalist" system.

    DO YA GOT ME?

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    "...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy

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    "...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy

  • Please read all of my posts on this thread to understand...

    ...why I am combative on this issue.

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    "...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy

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    "...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy

  • "Capitalism is a system where men exploit other men."

    That is a canard. Try another screen name. Next.

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    "...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy

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    "...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy

  • I noticed that you have not replied to my query below...

    ...therefore it should be quite obvious to the reader that you are a liar. But Mr. Nystrom gives you a venue to spew your garbage. Odd that he supposedly is in favor of individual liberty, but is not requiring that people who use his property are responsible for their words and actions.

    I have tried to communicate this to Mr. Nystrom but he has ignored me. He just doesn't have the time he says.

    Here is what you said:

    Like you, I would never pretend that China is some sort of bastion of freedom - economic or otherwise. But, I agree with Dr. Paul that there is a strong element of economic freedom - I call it free-market capitalism.

    That is a LIE. Take responsibility for your LIE.

    Dr. Paul has never suggested that " there is a strong element of economic freedom" in China.

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    "...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy

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    "...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy

  • But no...we have to pretend that the trolls don't exist...

    ...lest we be considered "conspiracy theorists".

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    "...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy

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    "...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy

  • Have a good time ya communist!

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    "...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy

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    "...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy

  • It's called civil disobedience...

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    "...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy

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    "...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy

  • How can anyone pretend to love liberty...

    ...and let their website be overrun with trolls telling us about the 'free' market 'capitalist' system in China?

    By they way, you welcomed me back if you'll recall. Legalize published my private email to him without my permission.

    Would you like to share my private email to you with everyone as well?

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    "...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy

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    "...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy

  • First it was blackbox voting...

    Now, it's black-eye voting!

    Great work!

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    "...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy

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    "...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy

  • Awesome, just awesome

    Thank you!

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    "...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy

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    "...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy

  • You got me!

    I've returned to my old "democratic socialist" ways!

    I'm a socialist because I linked to an article talking about Chinese workers trying to form unions who were arrested for committing the crime of peaceful protest!

    By the way, Ron Paul does not oppose unions, but he opposes giving them any special treatment through legislation or regulation. Unions, it turns out, can be strictly voluntary economic associations. Imagine that.

    Isn't it ironic that someone who is heralding China as going "capitalist" is accusing me of being a closet socialist when I openly advocate the near-abolition of the illegitimate U.S. federal.government and their armies of government-issued costume-wearers.

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    "...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy

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    "...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy

  • LOL

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    "...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy

  • "defensive use of the military"

    Thanks for a hearty chuckle! That just about deserves a thread of its own as well.

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    "...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy

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    "...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy

  • Ze Homeland?

    May I suggest that is a poor choice of words.

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    "...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy

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    "...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy

  • You can't have one without the other...

    Without economic freedom, individual liberty is diminished.

    Without individual liberty, economic freedom is diminished.

    Here is what you said: "people...have risen out of poverty in China through free market capitalism"

    Where has Ron Paul ever suggested that "there is a strong element of economic freedom" in China? Please cite your source.

    Oh yeah, you also said "...free market capitalism can exist in a communist country."

    Would you care to comment on that or does it pretty much speak for itself?

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    "...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy

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    "...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy

  • Wow, look at that "prosperity"...

    This is some "free market capitalism" we have here. Maybe we should move to China, eh? I'm told it's a real bastion of economic freedom there (but kind of a downer on individual liberty).

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    "...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy

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    "...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy