• God bless you.

    That is an inspirational testimony.

    Obedience to God is resistance to tyrants.

  • It's a well-written hit piece, nothing more.

    Doubt very much if that guy ever believed in Liberty.

    It's not true that he became a liberal. He became a socialist, that's in many ways the opposite.

    Obedience to God is resistance to tyrants.

  • Sorry but that's not correct

    I made no such assumption. You argued that gravity is a tyrant. I was pointing out that this insane, self-destructive logic is that same that you would apply to God even if you believed he existed.

    That you don't like something's power over you, does not make it rational for you to fight it if it is inevitable and always does exist. Once again, you are only fighting yourself. The point has nothing to do with whether God exists, it has to do with your attitude to the world and the reality around you.

    You would fight something even if it was inevitable. That is self-destruction.

    Obedience to God is resistance to tyrants.

  • Certainly seems more and more like it


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  • More insults

    But still no explanation. How about looking at the video clip I posted, and explaining what's going on in it :D

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  • How am I attacking him from behind?

    No that's not an honest question, its an ad hominem attack. In a free country, anyone can ask questions, they don't have to 'prove' any authority to do it. No thanks to the likes of you, its still somewhat free.

    Obedience to God is resistance to tyrants.

  • Think we can all agree on that!


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  • Not limiting it,

    that is the definition of Liberty. It is a political, worldly concept.

    'Not limiting it' would be I assume to pronounce yourself free from God's spiritual authority. The reason this is not part of 'Liberty' is because, as I've already said, it inhibits true political Liberty from existing. The two are incompatible. When people move away from God, they lose their Liberty.

    It's pretty simple:

    You can have worldly Liberty, through God's spiritual authority. Or,
    You can have spiritual licence, but you will be physically enslaved.

    Why do you think the USA has been historically fairly free? Notice any churches around your way? Why do you think you are slipping into Communism? "America is no longer a Christian nation" - Barack Obama

    "None love freedom but good men, the rest love not freedom, but license, which never hath more scope than under tyrants."
    John Milton

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  • Bump


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  • Okay, so plenty of downvotes

    But seriously, can anyone just explain to me what the clip is all about?

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  • Are we allowed to question things on this site or not?

    If so, why the rabid flames for even bringing this subject up? Is this guy a sacred cow who we can't ask questions about? It was an innocent question and I'm genuinely interested in peoples' opinions.

    Obedience to God is resistance to tyrants.

  • Wow, nice ad hominem!

    I guess that's about the dictionary defnition!

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  • It's not that big a deal

    Its a worldly holiday. Like any other. Enjoy it in as Christian a way as you can. But maybe go easy on the Santa stuff, who is a thinly-disguised Satan!

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  • So you have agreed that, like gravity,

    you would be fighting God even if it is something that is inherent, immovable, unchanging and will always exist. Can I suggest to you that there is another description of this: fighting yourself.

    Obedience to God is resistance to tyrants.

  • Is a Father a tyrant to his young child?

    Is gravity a tyrant to you?

    Or do they simply exist, and to deny them is adolescent, self-destructive insanity?

    Obedience to God is resistance to tyrants.

  • He said 'Christian views' not 'organised religion'

    They are totally separate and often diametrically opposite concepts.

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  • The spiritual King, yes.

    Liberty has to do with physical, worldy, freedom from restraint. This, physical or political Liberty, is only possible under the Spiritual authority of God. Because if men will not be governed by God in their own souls, whose rules are equal and just for all people; if they insist on their own licence to do evil, then they destin themselves to be enslaved by worldly tyranny. If they insist on worldy authority, not God's, then that is what they will get.

    Obedience to God is resistance to tyrants.

  • Mohusk, lets agree to disagree

    Your definition of pagan is laughably way off.

    "Either a person is polytheistic and outside of the major six religions or they are not."

    That in fact is close to the definition of paganism; being polytheistic. (the major six religions thing is completely arbitrary, many of them are also polytheistic, so pagan).

    "Your declaration means nothing."

    Correct, but it is God's declaration also. Try the book I recommended, that you clearly haven't understood very well, The Bible. Not afraid of your reco's, but I've heard your arguments before, I used to argue them myself.

    I do think you are dumb. And an ass. ;D But this is meant affectionately. Merry Christmas!!!

    Obedience to God is resistance to tyrants.

  • As a Christian, here's my two cents...

    There is not and never can be any conflict between the Kingdom of Jesus Christ and Liberty. Liberty comes from Jesus Christ, it is as simple as that.

    Absence of Jesus Christ creates an absence of Liberty, as in Communism and Nazism, for example.

    All worldly authority is in direct opposition to Jesus Christ's rule, as all Christians must obey God first, not man. The only legitimate authority on earth is Jesus Christ, the King given to us by God Almighty. He is the spiritual King, and is not represented by any human being. He is the King to each of us individually.

    That means, NO human being has any authority whatsoever over anyone else. Each of us is given sovereignty over our own selves by God, as far as the physical world goes, and interference with that sovereignty will be utterly destroyed by God.

    The only legitimacy of any world/ human institution is in that it SERVES, NOT commands, sovereign individuals, and therefore is the DIRECT exercise of their requests, without intermediating at all.

    The moment any authority does anything else, it is disobeying God.

    The problem with the 'pro-life' and 'gay marriage' movements is not that they free people up to do things, it is that they ENFORCE participation in these behaviors. E.g.



    As for the prohibition of drugs, it is and has always been a criminal enterprise for the enrichment of the drug sellers. It is impossible in any free society.

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  • Go TMOT!!!

    So he's running for the Senate now? God bless him!

    Obedience to God is resistance to tyrants.